This is Alexander Kartveli, the Georgian genius behind pretty much all of the Seversky/Republic aircraft, up to even the A-10. Say something nice about him.
This is Alexander Kartveli, the Georgian genius behind pretty much all of the Seversky/Republic aircraft, up to even the A-10.
He liked 'em thicc.
He liked 'em loud.
Schmitt smol.
Why is it so goddamn big?
Slap on the most powerful engine you've got, add a brutal supermegaturboautismcharger, and send it off to mogg Göring.
Truly massive.
He liked them chunky
jesus i didn't realize how tiny the bf109 was
From '30 onwards airframe tech and streamlining leaped forward while engines more or less lagged behind. Willy Messerschmitt solved the problem by designing the smallest practical fighter airframe and using the best engine he could find, initially the Jumo.
>From '30 onwards airframe tech and streamlining leaped forward while engines more or less lagged behind. Willy Messerschmitt solved the problem by designing the smallest practical fighter airframe and using the best engine he could find, initially the Jumo.
ironically the bf109 had problem upgrading because there's no room.
How big was the Typhoon compared to the jug? I recall it was on the chonk side.
Can't find a comparison, but the Jug was definitely bigger.
Scaled based on quick glance at Typhoon vs P-47 length on Wikipedia.
Just imagine a 5'4" Jap pilot testing a Thunderbolt, just getting swallowed by the cockpit.
You don't dodge enemy fire with the P-47, you dodge it in the cockpit.
>I remember that too
>https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1662158333564813326.html
>Russian space and rocket engineers are being recruited to join a new Russian army battalion called Uranus to fight in Ukraine. Advertisements published by Russia's space agency, Roscosmos, promise that it will "educate you with a strong spirit, will and body."
>The advertisement shown above has been posted on the internal website of Roscosmos, according to the VChK-OGPU Telegram channel. It asks physically qualified men aged up to 48 years old to sign a contract for military service with the Uranus battalion.
>Joiners are offered:
>A 100,000 ruble ($1,257) joining bonus
>Monthly payments of 100,000 rubles from the battalion
>Monthly payments of at least 170,000 rubles ($2,137) from the Russian government
>Monthly payments of at least 50,000 rubles ($628) from the regional government.
>This amounts to at least the equivalent of $4,000 a month, which is a very generous salary in Russian terms and far better than Roscosmos salaries.
>In 2020, it was reported that Roscosmos employees were being paid on average just $780 a month. (By comparison, NASA pays its employees an average of $8,128 a month). The recruitment campaign is a sign of Russia's ongoing struggle to find more manpower for the war in Ukraine.
You got the one where they sent the ICBM guards to the front lines?
They sent WHOMS'T to the front lines?
There were reports in 2022 of some Russian Strategic Missile Forces troops being sent into Ukraine when the war dragged past the first few months and/or some were captured but they might be bullshit or I'd like to think they are for that kind of bottom of barrel scraping action that early into the war.
>Strategic Rocket Forces flag of the Russian Federation.jpg
Except this shit happened this month apparently in the Dnipro river. Of course I can chalk it up to the Ukrainians trying to bullshit me but given Russian and Soviet history I'm inclined to think this is a possible rather than pure bullshit. Reportedly they guys being sent are the conscripts that are supposed to sit around silos and their TEL trucks.
True. What bothers me is the whole meme of the A-10 being based on that Junkers paper design that Wehraboos push.
>They ignore that it resembles the Su-25 and YA-9 more anyways.
Chinchad.
>genius
Lol, lmao even.
>t. butthurt Charlie
Why do poeple not like the f105?
It had some teething problems.
Buzz buzz
>that adorable little rudder
Which one was his favorite?
>In 1927, the American millionaire Charles Levine invited Kartvelishvili to New York, to join the Atlantic Aircraft Corporation in 1928 and in 1931 Kartvelishvili met the prominent engineer Alexander de Seversky, who was born in Georgia but was of Russian descent. In Seversky's company, which later was renamed Seversky Aircraft Corporation, Kartvelishvili worked as chief engineer. In 1939 the company again changed its name to "Republic Aviation Company".
>Seversky
>While stationed in the Gulf of Riga, on his first mission, he attacked a German destroyer but was shot down by enemy anti-aircraft fire before he could drop his bombs. The bombs exploded in the crash, killing his observer and badly wounding Seversky. Doctors amputated his leg below the knee and although he was fitted with an artificial leg, despite his protests, authorities deemed him unfit to return to combat. To prove to his superiors that he could still fly, Seversky appeared unannounced at an air show. Following his impromptu spirited aerial performance, authorities arrested him.
>Tsar Nicholas II intervened on his behalf and in July 1916, de Seversky returned to combat duty, downing his first enemy aircraft three days later. In February 1917, he assumed command of the 2nd Naval Fighter Detachment, until he was seriously injured in an accident where a horse-drawn wagon broke his good leg. After serving in Moscow, as the Chief of Pursuit Aviation, Seversky returned to combat duty. On October 14, 1916, he was forced down in enemy territory but made it back to the safety of his own lines. He went on to fly 57 combat missions, shooting down six German aircraft (his claims for 13 victories would make him Russia's third-ranking World War I ace, although the claims are disputed).
Then he immigrated to America, ran a restaurant, co-dev the Sperry bombsight and then used earnings from that to found Seversky aviation, hiring Kartveli. An all American story if you ask me.
Speaking of American Aeroslavs
>After immigrating to the United States in 1919, Sikorsky founded the Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation in 1923,[7] and developed the first of Pan American Airways' ocean-crossing flying boats in the 1930s.
>In 1939, Sikorsky designed and flew the Vought-Sikorsky VS-300,[8] the first viable American helicopter, which pioneered the rotor configuration used by most helicopters today.[9] Sikorsky modified the design into the Sikorsky R-4, which became the world's first mass-produced helicopter in 1942.
>Igor Sikorsky was born in Kiev, Russian Empire (now Kyiv, Ukraine) on May 25, 1889.[6][10][11] He was the youngest of five children.
>Frank Nicolas Piasecki (/piːəˈsɛki/ pee-ə-SEK-ee; Polish: [pjaˈsɛtski]; October 24, 1919 – February 11, 2008) was an American engineer and helicopter aviation pioneer. Piasecki pioneered tandem rotor helicopter designs and created the compound helicopter concept of vectored thrust using a ducted propeller.[2]
>Born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, to an immigrant Polish tailor, Piasecki worked for autogyro manufacturers while still attending Overbrook High School,[3] then studied mechanical engineering at the University of Pennsylvania before graduating with a bachelor's degree from New York University. He was employed by the Platt-LePage Aircraft Company as a control engineer on their XR-1 twin-rotor project.[4] In 1940, he formed PV Engineering Forum with former Pennsylvania classmate Harold Venzie.[5] He built a single-person, single-rotor helicopter designated the PV-2 and flew it on April 11, 1943. This helicopter impressed the United States Navy sufficiently to win Piasecki a development contract.[6]
America owns aviation.
If his name doesn't seem familiar
>Boeing Helicopters was created as Boeing Vertol when the Vertol Aircraft Corporation (formerly Piasecki Helicopter) company of Morton, Pennsylvania was acquired by Boeing in 1960
>Chinook descends from his designs
>Sikorsky is the other half of helicopters
>American Aeroslavs are effectively behind the founding for half of American helicopter lineages
It's breddy damn sad just how far a Slav or Slav adjacent man can go in Burgerland compared with Bliniland.
>In 1928, under provisions of the five-year plan for experimental aircraft design, Polikarpov was assigned to develop the primarily wooden I-6 fighter for delivery by mid-1930. The plan was unrealistic and failed. As such, in October 1929,[3] Polikarpov and around other 450 aircraft designers and engineers were arrested on fabricated charges of sabotage and counter-revolutionary activities, after which he was sentenced to death.
>it isn't slavery cumrade it is anal rape death rent seekingless engineering *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~)
>In December, after two months of waiting for execution, he was transferred to a Special Design Bureau of OGPU set at Butyrka prison and had the sentence changed to 10 years of forced labor.[4] Polikarpov and the others were moved to Central Design Bureau 39 (TsKB-39) to complete the I-5 project.[5] After a successful demonstration of the new design, the sentence was changed to a conditional one, and in July 1931 he was granted amnesty together with a group of other convicts. It was not until de-Stalinization in 1956 that the criminal charges were officially dropped posthumously.
At least he lived unlike the V-2 (T-34 engine, "grandfather" of all Soviet V12 engines up to the T-90) designer Konstantin Chelpan, who was purged for being ethnic Greek.
>communism can't be racist comrade *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~) ukrainian is actually little russian brother we anal rape like bathhouse boys
Meanwhile, Sikorsky is making comfy seaplanes that take Americans to tropical adventures in the Caribbean and writing books about the Orthodox faith.
Tupolev also got enslaved like Polikarpov as well
>However, on 21 October 1937, Tupolev was arrested together with Vladimir Petlyakov and the entire directorate of the TsAGI and EDO during the Great Purge on trumped up charges of sabotage, espionage and of aiding the Russian Fascist Party. Many of his colleagues were executed but Tupolev himself was imprisoned. In 1939, Tupolev was moved from a prison to an NKVD sharashka for aircraft designers in Bolshevo near Moscow, where many surviving ex-TsAGI people had already been sent to work. The sharashka soon moved to Moscow and was dubbed "Tupolevka" after Tupolev, its most prominent inmate. In 1940, Tupolev was tried and convicted with a ten-year sentence, and during this time he developed the Tupolev Tu-2 which would become one of the most important aircraft of World War II.[6] Tupolev was released in July 1941 around the time of the German invasion of the Soviet Union to "conduct important defence work" but was not fully rehabilitated by the Soviet state until 1955, two years after Joseph Stalin's death.
Not an Aeroslav but here's what the commies did to one of their own Railslavs that actually knew his shit:
>After the nationalization of the Moscow-Kazan Railway in 1918, von Meck hoped that his knowledge and experience would continue to be useful to the new Soviet state. He continued to take an interest in developing the railway transport system and served as a consultant to the financial and economic department of the People's Commissariat of Railways. He represented the Commissar on the State Planning Commission. Von Meck outlined his ideas in the field of economics and prospects for domestic rail transport in a series of books published between 1921 and 1927.
>Despite this, due to his "bourgeois" origins, he was repeatedly arrested on various charges from 1919 onward, accused of, among other things, "counter-revolutionary speeches against the Soviet system" and being part of a "technological counter-revolution." He was arrested for the final time in 1928, and in May 1929 the OGPU (forerunner of the KGB) sentenced him to death for wrecking; that is, attempts to sabotage Soviet authority through substandard work. His execution was announced on 24 May 1929. He was rehabilitated in 1990 by the Plenum of the Supreme Court of the USSR.
Didn't Sikorsky and Mil worked together at some point before he went to the US?
Years don't match
>After graduating from the institute in 1931, Mil began his career at TsAGI, too late to work under its original founder, Nikolay Zhukovsky.
Also to expand on Seversky, not to downplay Alexander Kartvelishvili who was the brilliant engineer behind the Seversky/Republic planes:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_de_Seversky#Air_power_advocate
>As World War II approached, Seversky became engrossed in formulating his theories of air warfare. Shortly after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, he wrote Victory Through Air Power, published in April 1942, advocating the strategic use of air bombardment. [4] The best-selling book (No. 1 on the New York Times bestseller list, appearing first in mid-August 1942 and remaining in first place for four weeks) with five million copies sold. The book's popularity and hard-hitting message led to Walt Disney adapting the book into an animated motion picture (1943) of the same name where Seversky (who also served as the film's technical consultant) provided live-action commentary.
>Filmmaker Walt Disney read the book, and felt that its message was so important that he would personally finance a partly-animated short, also called Victory Through Air Power, which was released in July 1943.[3] Disney's purpose for creating the film was to promote Seversky's theories to government officials and the public.
>After seeing the film, Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt decided that Seversky knew what he was talking about, changing the course of the war.[4]
>Seversky was one of a number of strategic air advocates whose vision was realized in the 1946 creation of the Strategic Air Command and the development of aircraft such as the Convair B-36 and Boeing B-47 Stratojet.
>Effectively the conceptual founder of American Air Superiority
>Seversky argued that:
>1. "The rapid expansion of the range and striking power of military aviation makes it certain that the United States will be as exposed to destruction from the air, within a predictable period, as are the British Isles today;"
>2. Those who deny this possibility are exhibiting something like a "Maginot line mentality";
>3. The U.S. must begin preparing immediately for "an interhemispheric war direct across oceans;"
>4. The U.S. must become the dominant air-power nation, "even as England in its prime was the dominant sea-power nation of the world."
The P-47 is effectively the spiritual grandfather of American air superiority.
It just gets sadder and sadder. This is what Ruskies can accomplish in America. In Moscow he would've had to watch his every word, otherwise he might say something somehow contradictory to Soviet doctrine. Billy Mitchell got a raw deal, but he would've been shot in Russia.
>Merely being shot in the head
>Be Korolev
>Literally the heavyweight behind the Soviet Space Program
>Also be Belo-Russian-Ukrainian-Greek
>Get fucking gulaged (see reply)
>The actual circumstances of Korolev's death remain somewhat uncertain. In December 1965, he was supposedly diagnosed with a bleeding polyp in his large intestine. He entered the hospital on 5 January 1966 for somewhat routine surgery, but died nine days later. It was stated by the government that he had what turned out to be a large, cancerous tumor in his abdomen, but Valentin Glushko later reported that he actually died due to a poorly performed operation for hemorrhoids. Another version states that the operation was going well and no one was predicting any complications. Suddenly, during the operation, Korolev started to bleed.
>Doctors tried to provide intubation to allow him to breathe freely, but his jaws, injured during his time in a Gulag, had not healed properly and impeded the installation of the breathing tube. Korolev died without regaining consciousness. According to Harford, Korolev's family confirmed the cancer story. His weak heart contributed to his death during surgery.[69]
>Under a policy initiated by Stalin and continued by his successors, the identity of Korolev was not revealed until after his death. The purported reason was to protect him from foreign agents from the United States. As a result, the Soviet people didn't become aware of his accomplishments until after his death.
The Soviet people weren't even fucking aware of who he was while Von Braun was a rockstar with the Apollo astronauts.
>Be Korolev
>Be the literal genius that powered Soviet aeroSPACE program
>Get Stalin'd and gulag'd
>One of the guys who gave a false confession gets his own design bureau later
>Become deeply bitter and also become emotionally fucked up for life
>Also considered state secret and never recognized in USSR until after your death
>Joseph Stalin's Great Purge severely damaged RNII, with Director Kleymyonov and Chief Engineer Langemak arrested in November 1937, tortured, made to sign false confessions and later executed.
>Glushko was arrested in March 1938 and with many other leading engineers was imprisoned in the Gulag.
>Korolev was arrested by the NKVD on 27 June 1938 after being accused of a variety of charges, including false charges extracted from Kleymyonov, Langemak and Glushko. He was tortured in the Lubyanka prison to extract a confession. Glushko and Korolev had reportedly been denounced by Andrei Kostikov who became the head of RNII after its leadership was arrested.[28][26]
>Korolev rarely talked about his experience in the Gulag, and lived under constant fear of being executed for the military secrets he possessed. He was deeply affected by his time in the camp, becoming reserved and cautious as a result.
>He later learned that Glushko was one of his accusers, and this was likely the cause of the lifelong animosity between the two men. The design bureau was handed over from NKVD control to the government's aviation industry commission. Korolev continued working with the bureau for another year, serving as deputy designer under Glushko and studying various rocket designs.[34]
communism works cumrade *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~) all the intellectuals got what they deserved it is the common mobster who stands above them *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~))
And we are looking at the present state of Russia that is the result of doing this to their best and brightest, if not before the Soviets.
I see nothing unusual about Putin's drive to re-Stalinize Russia. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
The Romanovs, for all their faults, at least didn't execute nearly as many dissidents and intellectuals. Witte and Stolypin could've saved Russia, but basically everybody fought them on it constantly. Hell, the Tsar had to be basically strong-armed into enacting any reforms, and even then it was always kinda half-hearted.
>In a brighter timeline, Korolev Aerospace is to this day one of NASA's prime rocket contractors, having been crucial to the moon landing and countless other space firsts
You could have taken all of these aeroslavs and aeroslav adjacent engineers and brought them to the US and we would have just had a repeat of the American Aeroslavs.
>Come to America
>Run a restaurant or work at one for a while
>Do some footnote in book but important thing that contributes to avionics like probably make the American version of the kommandogerat control for piston fighters in WW2
>Use that as seed money to found a company
>Company becomes pivotal prime contractor for major fighter type
>Probably write a lot, one of the things they write about is notable and gets adopted into American strategic thinking as doctrinal foundation
>Becomes cornerstone of one of the many things that makes American shit work out
>Alt timeline: In the year of 2030 Polikarpov Aerospace is the prime contractor for the Mars Short Hop Transport, Tupolev Aviation built the field assembled Mars Cargo Lifter, etc
>Polikarpov-Sikorsky Mars Ice Cream Factory
He's responsible actually for the A-10 and not a kraut (Hans-Ulrich Rudel as claimed by Sprey).
>He was also consultant at Fairchild Republic and was the primary designer of the A-10 Thunderbolt II.[11][12][13]
>He was also heavily involved with a 1960s-era Air Force project called "Aerospaceplane", to design and build an orbital logistics vehicle a decade before NASA attempted a similar concept, known as the Space Shuttle.[1][4]
Imagine having this amount of a power up simply by being an aeroslav or aeroslav adjacent in America.
Rudel's expertise in BBRRRRTTTTTing was consulted at least.
Speaking of aeroslav adjacents:
>Be Soviets
>Want aerial 37mm autocannon
>Crazy whacky early 1900s slav engineering where they actually had brilliant people and crazy whacky ass designs
>Be General Tukhachevsky
>He was later executed during the show trials of 1936-38.
>Be Kurchevsky the crazy mad fuck who actually was insanely talented at recoiless guns and everything else
>Be adjacent to General Tukhachevsky and get executed too after a show trial
>Be Glukharev
>Everyone he worked with gets gulag'd and executed
>Get accused of espionage
>Get promoted underneath Taubin (also get arrested)
>Get credited for work of everyone else
>Get credited for making predecessor to NS-37, stealing it from Taubin, Baburin and Kurchevsky
>Konstantin Konstantinovich Glukharev was appointed the head of OKB-16, more than remarkable person. He worked as a deputy for many designers of the time.: Kurchevsky (arrested), Queen and Glushkova (arrested), Hospital (arrested himself on charges of espionage from Shpitalny), Taubina. After Taubin was arrested, he became the head of his OKB and did not let him fall apart.
>Be Russian engineers
>Try to make the hypersanic "weapon without parallel" (wonderwaffe but in modern Russian propaganda speak)
>Kinzhals get dunked on by Patriot
>Accused of treason
>Literally the Russian science and engineering community because it was political in the first place
>Even get random ass Western scientists saying that they were just doing standard paper publications
>Not that China doesn't already have all their shit and they're being accused of the same shit already
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TsNIIMash-Export_espionage_trial
>https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-three-scientists-face-very-serious-accusations-treason-case-2023-05-17/
>Kurchevsky the crazy mad fuck with all the talent:
>In his experiments with recoilless guns, Leonid Kurchevsky strived to cover a wide range of artillery weapons. Besides their work on field artillery, his team also mounted DRPs on a Grigorovich I-Z fighter armed with 2x 76 mm (2.99 in) APK recoilless guns (1935), mounted a 305mm howitzer on an automobile, a 305mm recoilless gun on a destroyer,[1] a 152mm recoilless gun on a torpedo boat, etc.
>Among his other inventions were a prototype of a grenade launcher, an all-terrain motor boat for polar conditions, a three-axis all-terrain wheeled and tracked vehicle, a winged torpedo, and a special hydroplane.
>Be fucked from this alone
>Kurchevsky enjoyed the support of Mikhail Tukhachevsky and Sergo Ordzhonikidze in promoting his projects.
>In 1937, Kurchevsky was arrested, charged with designing poor weapons systems at the Tukhachevsky Case, and sentenced to death on November 25, 1937. The exact date of his execution is still uncertain: various sources claim it to be either November 26, 1937 or January 12, 1939. In the late 1930s, Kurchevsky's recoilless guns were removed from operational status and almost all were destroyed. His gun systems were never used in the Great Patriotic War and all work on recoilless artillery in the USSR was stalled for a long time to come.
Tukhachevsky had the right idea on tanks, but his ideas weren't implemented in Spain because he was unpersoned. Rusky tanks were superior to the German and Shitalian models, but naturally they were used wrongly on purpose.
>Not bringing up Grigory Kulik
He was fucking amazing in comparison to Tukhachevsky.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Kulik#Artillery_Directorate_Chief
>Be Stalin's friend
>Hate Tukhachevsky, hate T-34, Hate KV-1, hate Katyusha
>Literally fuck the T-34 and KV-1 over at every step
>DELAY PRODUCTION OF AMMO AND GUNS LMAO
>Crews had to use coaxials because no ammo
>Later fuck over the uparmament of T-34 from L-11 to F-34 gun
>Hate minefields
>Call mines "a weapon of the weak"
>Hate SMGs
>Prevent them from being issued
>This line: Kulik refused to endorse the production of the innovative Katyusha rocket artillery system, stating "What the hell do we need rocket artillery for? The main thing is the horse-drawn gun."[8]
>Get wrecked by Nazis early war
>Only die because post war Stalin needed to purge the generalship since they were getting too popular for his liking and because Beria.
>Avoids getting accused of wrecking anyways.
HOLY FUCK!!! WAS HE TAKING BRIBES FROM BERLIN?!?!
As if he needed them. The incompetence he displayed reminds me of the more memetic unbelievable shit that came out of the present war. Good thing I already heard about the shit show of Soviet history. All those years of being told that I was repeating Western propaganda by tankies and socialist losers washed away in an instant from this war. One man gets the rifle and one man gets the clip indeed.
I can't even imagine what kind of clown show shit will come out of Russia if Putin is even remotely successful at purging more scientists and engineers from Russia. The Soviet Union was an effective genetic lobotomy performed against their own population but exceptionally so against the Russian part with how targeted the killings were. Combine that with the flight of people from the combined effects of the fall of the USSR to the present conscription drive scaring off anyone with enough of a brain and the levels of brain drain are practically unimaginable.
Nigeria with snow wouldn't even hold a candle to what we're about to see. Nigeria unironically would retain more doctors and engineers than what's going to come out of Russia in a few decades, assuming they can even give birth to the next generation of engineers who don't have an IQ less than 60.
Anybody got that headline about Rusky rocket engineers being recrooted for their own battalion?
and on the other side of the iron curtain we have Artem Mikoyan(founder of MiG) designing planes for the soviets. seems like caucasus folks have some weird fascination with aviation
Combination of living in mountains and the subconscious desire to get away from your Russian neighbors.
His last name literally means "Georgian".
It was "Kartvelishvili" but he changed it to sound less foreign.
Speaking of aeroslav adjacent people:
>Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev (sometimes also Petr; Russian: Пётp Я́кoвлeвич Уфи́мцeв; born 1931) is a Soviet/Russian physicist and mathematician, considered the seminal force behind modern stealth aircraft technology. In the 1960s he began developing equations for predicting the reflection of electromagnetic waves from simple two-dimensional and three-dimensional objects.[1]
>Much of Ufimtsev's work was translated into English, and in the 1970s American Lockheed engineers began to expand upon some of his theories to create the concept of aircraft with reduced radar signatures.[2]
>While working in Moscow, Ufimtsev became interested in describing the reflection of electromagnetic waves. He gained permission to publish his research results internationally because they were considered to be of no significant military or economic value.[4]
>Hahaha nerd whatever that shit is probably bourgeoisie intelligentsia gayshit
>A stealth engineer at Lockheed, Denys Overholser, had read the publication and realized that Ufimtsev had created the mathematical theory and tools to do finite analysis of radar reflection.[5] This discovery inspired and had a role in the design of the first true stealth aircraft, the Lockheed F-117. Northrop also used Ufimtsev's work to program super computers to predict the radar reflection of the B-2 bomber.
Don't know his fate but he was apparently made an associate professor at UCLA. Maybe he immigrated out after the fall of the USSR but he's kind of a rockstar within American aviation while I think he's barely spoken of by the Russians except with seething jealousy of how "his works were stolen by the Americans."
You know, if I were him I'd be happy that the Burgers humiliated Russia with my science.
His very existence robs Sprey and the Reformers of their sleazy attempts to take sole credit for the A-10, which was their key talking point after the First Gulf War proved the exact opposite of virtually everything they'd spent years repeating as a mantra.
Very cool thread. Cheers OP and Aeroslav autists.