this is a problem to which no Italian politician, judge, or policeman has been able to find a solution. So now I'm asking you who are Americans or from some other North American country and maybe you know the answer, so we can find a solution together.
Is there a method to remove the mafia from the Italian state?
legalize whatever they are profiting by, improve self and property defense laws, jail your corrupt politicians.
...legalize the smuggling of migrants, you mean? That should be entertaining.
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Make it legal for any armed citizen to kill an illegal immigrant on sight, they are allowed to frisk them for any forms of ID and passport confirming their citizenship status. Put out propaganda on the level that Alberta did and does for rats about illegal immigrants. Eventually they'll stop coming.
Drugs, forced prostitution, small arms are now mostly done by groups of albanians/nigerians/gipsies etc. that you wouldn't call mafia, the classic mafia now deals mostly in things that you can not legalize, like improperly disposing of dangerous trash
>things that you can not legalize
>improperly disposing of dangerous trash
I want my privately owned, personally funded and perfectly legal McCancer and no government should stop me
One of their sources of cash during the '80s was the contraband of ciggies.
olive oil is already legal, so that's not gonna cut it here
>jail your corrupt politicians.
>Italy
So, a regime change?
The 'Ndrangheta as an institution is comparable to Starbucks or McDonald's in scale. Of course the main revenue is drugs trafficking, but it also trades arms, prostitutes, extortion, money laundering.
The novels and movies tell one story of glamor and drama, but the reality is a network of poverty and exploitation. In order to address organized crime at the root, so should the condition of poverty and the nation itself be addressed.
The foundation of civilization is agriculture, which is well established in Italy. Its skeleton is infrastructure, and its future in education. To improve education and employment in areas where mafia presence and recruitment is high, which are the poorest areas of the nation.
The construction of new infrastructure and housing, as well as schools and good quality public education, to provide both employment and a long term future for raising a family. To create a society where life is better for people, and so education is more successful and gang recruitment is less.
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The ‘Ndrangheta helps distribute over 80 percent of Europe’s cocaine, mainly through Vibo Marino.
>t. Vibonese
Cesare Mori and Uncle Musso did a pretty good job.
Let Eastern European organized crime muscle them out.
It's a grassroots matter
The USA is more successfully democratic than many other countries because generally speaking voters will vote against politicians and elected officials who are found to be corrupt
>yes there are exceptions, don't be a pedantic cuss
If Italians don't give a shit, they will keep voting in corrupt politicians, and from there the system is corrupted from the top down
Because politicians pick judges, judges prosecute cases, cases are investigated by police. Corrupt politicians pick corrupt judges, corrupt judges will unfairly legislate Mafia cases, and police are unable to do anything and so decide not to do anything
>this is happening in California now, but with wokeism instead of corruption
Simple as.
so you're telling me that the solution is the duty of honest politicians?
Mafia profits by selling what the state pushed on the black market, protection rackets.
>remove shit from black market
Yes make sure you pull an Amsterdam and not Portland. Likewise allowing that shit in only one place will skyrocket the amount of people moving to or visiting said place to access those good and services.
>encourage people to use extreme violence when someone walks in asking for protection money, pay them in lead
This will never happen as it decreases power of the state and puts in question protection racket that the state runs.
people to use extreme violence when someone walks in asking for protection money, pay them in lead
>This will never happen as it decreases power of the state and puts in question protection racket that the state runs.
Wasn't Bolsonaro's blanket legalization of handguns for defensive use massively successful at curtailing crime until he was ousted and the deregulation was reregulated?
kill them all
>Is there a method to remove the mafia from the Italian state?
Collective responsibility
Death penalty
Large rewards and safety guarantees to snitches
Only possible sentences - death, deportation, life imprisonment, total disenfranchisement of relatives, total confiscation of property.
Make it like Great Purge or like times of fascism and Cesare Mori.
In extreme situation it is possible to introduce martial law.
as long as capitalism rules, and the ultimate goal of life is to attain material goods and wealth, mafias, gangs, corruption, and black markets are going to exist
you're asking for water to not fill a pot
you have to fundamentally change the vessel
>capitalism means material wealth is the ultimate goal for people
if so humans have always been capitalist and many animals are too, good luck getting rid of that ever
people and animals have always raped each other, should we stop trying to prevent rape? or murder? teenage pregnancies? child pregnancies? forest fires?
do you get it yet?
>if so humans have always been capitalist
I disagree only on the basis that Capitalism involves a specific set of economic conditions
People have always sought material wealth, yes - but the commercialisation of agriculture and the push to lower or remove barriers to international trade are modern, explicitly capitalist phenomenon
pinochet literally solved this issue long ago, that's why cartel did not take off in chile. just kill them
No, there will always be corruption on one scale or another.
The only answer is to make sure that after a certain degree the corruption isn't tolerated and the offender made an example of so that the next guy will stay in his lane.
Do you guys not have some equivalent of RICO?