>Back when the victory parade in Moscow was about winning WW2 and not some parotic circle jerk about how glorious Russia is
I'll let you in on a secret:
Winning WWII was Russia's one and only call to fame (until the space race) and they milked it politically ever since the war ended.
It was always a circlejerk.
I like to think that somewhere out there in an alternate universe the Nazis and Japs have their own victory day parades across the world and Europe and the Americas are white and speak German and asia speaks Japanese.
The dignity of the US soldiers marching is inimitable. Maybe it's because they are well fed or it's the qualified pride knowing they serve in the greatest armed forces known to man but the salute while the opposite arm is resting is quite something else.
I don't think this one is on Russia, Monke used to be a very pro-Western guy and have asked for NATO membership before he got told to fuck off because he's supposed to be the bad guy here
He was offered NATO membership by the west, but it came with strings attached, such as submission to the Le Hague as well as submission to NATO HQ. He declined.
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THEM IN NATO WITH NO REQUIREMENTS TO ADHERE TO ITS STANDARDS OR CHAIN OF COMMAND
K. Btw Ukraine and Georgia were both never going to be in NATO and russia mislead you on that front
Yep. Neither is Ukraine unless they retake absolutely all of their territory and even then quite probably not. Territorial disputes are a bitch and a half like that
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West Germany joined NATO without problems. Plenty of current NATO members have some sort of territorial disputes, often with other NATO members. They just have to promise they will try to settle things peacefully.
>Okay you can join us, but you have to act civilized and follow same rules as everybody else.
Nooo! How unfair! Russian deserves special privileges to invade neighbors and genocide people at will!
Being in a giant international military alliance isn't a privilege and requires genuine commitment and a willingness to accept your nation is just one of amongst many
IE all things Russia wouldn't commit to
He was offered NATO membership by the west, but it came with strings attached, such as submission to the Le Hague as well as submission to NATO HQ. He declined.
Like all Vatniks, you lie routinely.
No one is offered NATO membership. You have to apply.
>No one is offered NATO membership. You have to apply.
No, you have to be invited. >Article 10 >The Parties may, by unanimous agreement, invite any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area to accede to this Treaty. Any State so invited may become a Party to the Treaty by depositing its instrument of accession with the Government of the United States of America. The Government of the United States of America will inform each of the Parties of the deposit of each such instrument of accession.
By 2010 it was already too late.
The pivotal points were 1991 (could have exterminated the KGB after their failed coup and prevented all this), 1993 (could have condemned the successful coup, crashed Russia even harder and prevented this) or 1999 (could have exposed and humiliated Putin and prevented this).
Or perhaps even 1990 (state troops should have stormed Stasi HQ, detained everyone and safeguarded all records).
Back when the victory parade in Moscow was about winning WW2 and not some parotic circle jerk about how glorious Russia is
sounds like never to me
You realize these countries weren't invitees until recently right?
>Back when the victory parade in Moscow was about winning WW2 and not some parotic circle jerk about how glorious Russia is
I'll let you in on a secret:
Winning WWII was Russia's one and only call to fame (until the space race) and they milked it politically ever since the war ended.
It was always a circlejerk.
It's funny, because they could also us the Crimea war but since they are trying to play nice with Turkey they cannot
Never thought a video from 2010 would be giving me those "different world" vibes I get when I see stuff like cold war footage. Time sure flies
I liked the Polish uniforms the best
I like Polish uniforms too.
I like to think that somewhere out there in an alternate universe the Nazis and Japs have their own victory day parades across the world and Europe and the Americas are white and speak German and asia speaks Japanese.
>what could have been
play the march at 0.5x
http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/645afcaf4f487-what-could-have-been.php
>pause
>mute and set parade to 0.5 speed
>stop button, play
The dignity of the US soldiers marching is inimitable. Maybe it's because they are well fed or it's the qualified pride knowing they serve in the greatest armed forces known to man but the salute while the opposite arm is resting is quite something else.
why FAMAS?
i want to believe it's the type 86s, but that is absolutely the famas.
Why wouldn't French troops in 2010 carry FAMAS?
thanks for the info
i guess that makes a lot more sense
That's not a FAMAS. It can't be a FAMAS. It is never a FAMAS!!!!
How naive were the Russians back then
Question: why aren't there German troops?
I don't think this one is on Russia, Monke used to be a very pro-Western guy and have asked for NATO membership before he got told to fuck off because he's supposed to be the bad guy here
He was offered NATO membership by the west, but it came with strings attached, such as submission to the Le Hague as well as submission to NATO HQ. He declined.
Like all Vatniks, you lie routinely.
>Okay you can join us, but you have to open your mouth and swallow what we give you to swallow.
Yeah, because thats sooo much different from being told to straight up "Fuck off".
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO LET THEM IN NATO WITH NO REQUIREMENTS TO ADHERE TO ITS STANDARDS OR CHAIN OF COMMAND
K. Btw Ukraine and Georgia were both never going to be in NATO and russia mislead you on that front
Georgia still isn't going to join NATO.
Yep. Neither is Ukraine unless they retake absolutely all of their territory and even then quite probably not. Territorial disputes are a bitch and a half like that
West Germany joined NATO without problems. Plenty of current NATO members have some sort of territorial disputes, often with other NATO members. They just have to promise they will try to settle things peacefully.
>Okay you can join us, but you have to act civilized and follow same rules as everybody else.
Nooo! How unfair! Russian deserves special privileges to invade neighbors and genocide people at will!
You really can't make this up.
Don't you have some form of cognitive dissonance when you write shit like that?
Yes, most Russians or vatniks legitimately do, it’s how they can ignore shit like all the suiciding Russian videos and yesterday’s parade
Being in a giant international military alliance isn't a privilege and requires genuine commitment and a willingness to accept your nation is just one of amongst many
IE all things Russia wouldn't commit to
Russia never applied for NATO membership.
No one is offered NATO membership. You have to apply.
>No one is offered NATO membership. You have to apply.
No, you have to be invited.
>Article 10
>The Parties may, by unanimous agreement, invite any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic area to accede to this Treaty. Any State so invited may become a Party to the Treaty by depositing its instrument of accession with the Government of the United States of America. The Government of the United States of America will inform each of the Parties of the deposit of each such instrument of accession.
You're invited after you apply.
>You're invited after you apply.
You apply after you are invited.
Name one.
At what point do you consider that someone has fed you an altered version of history?
Don't worry anon, I'm sure we'll see American soldiers parading down red square again.
It's gonna be a small adhoc thing with a bunch of still uniformed dudes who haven't marched in years
and it'll be glorious
This is what they took from you
God I wish the world had gone a different way
Russia was always destined to be a shit hole sadly
By 2010 it was already too late.
The pivotal points were 1991 (could have exterminated the KGB after their failed coup and prevented all this), 1993 (could have condemned the successful coup, crashed Russia even harder and prevented this) or 1999 (could have exposed and humiliated Putin and prevented this).
Or perhaps even 1990 (state troops should have stormed Stasi HQ, detained everyone and safeguarded all records).
This one is even more funny
>a jap is taller than you
a most brutal mogging