this combined with some new kind 30.06 ammunition would have been viable as the NGSW.

this combined with some new kind 30.06 ammunition would have been viable as the NGSW. Not ideal but it would have been fine. Military procurement is a closed circle

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nahh it’s heavy and gay and from Ohio

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. If it was from indiana i would buy it but ohio... nahh

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even weirder is .277 fury is to .270 Winchester as 7.62 x 51 is to .30-06.
    >we could've gotten AP loads developed for .270 but we got SIG shit instead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      or those weird spitfire M1 Carbines that are straight out of some weird forever war alternate history version of the Korean/Indochina wars or some dystopian 50's police state out of some non existant Philip K Dick novel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post pics?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he's talking about this. Shame it isn't popular today.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Spitfire

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Almost as if the military would rather lose ~100fps than re arm their entire force with new rifles/magazines designed for some fudd long action round

      The purpose of the NGSW was to pierce armor, correct? If that was the case, the. they should have went with something like .22-250. It can already pierce armor with hunting projectiles, so AP projectiles would absolutely work.

      What is barrel life

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Almost as if the military would rather lose ~100fps than re arm their entire force with new rifles/magazines designed for some fudd long action round
        well they need new rifles either way. don't know about the magazines.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would they switch to .270 fudd when all of NATO arms are standardized around 7.62x51?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they are switching to 6.8x51, or at least signaled their desire to and placed orders for rifles

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And do you know what round has the same case length/diameter of 6.8x51?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they've placed orders to entirely new rifles. you can stop trying what you're trying.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’re obviously too dumb to pick up on what I’m trying to say. They still feed from the same 7.62 magazines, machine guns could feed from the same belts. Not too mention you could easily convert other 7.62 rifles to shoot it as long as you’re not using the super Hispanicy rounds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .358 Winchester

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .358 Winchester

                .338 Federal?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the barrel life for .22-250 a few thousand rounds tho?

        2 things
        >1
        It's not 1950 anymore. That reputation was gained many decades ago by boomers.
        >2
        What is the barrel life of the new cartridge?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least 6k rounds from what I’ve heard, so double best case .22-250 scenario where it’s some fudd shooting 4 rounds a year.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love .30-06 and the BAR, but the HCAR is a retarded meme

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wasn't based on the monitor machine rifle
    they had one job and they blew it

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HCAR is aesthetic, but practically, picrel is probably a better fit for your headcanon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      .30-06 is obsolete
      I want .338 lapua battle rifle

      Also picrel

      The purpose of the NGSW was to pierce armor, correct? If that was the case, the. they should have went with something like .22-250. It can already pierce armor with hunting projectiles, so AP projectiles would absolutely work.

      I just hope they get hybrid cased versions of existing rounds so I can launch TMK's at 3500fps out of my 12.5" AR's, kek

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It weighs twelve pounds.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hit the gym sissy.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .30-06 is obsolete
    I want .338 lapua battle rifle

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The purpose of the NGSW was to pierce armor, correct? If that was the case, the. they should have went with something like .22-250. It can already pierce armor with hunting projectiles, so AP projectiles would absolutely work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the barrel life for .22-250 a few thousand rounds tho?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not even it’s being used as an infantry rifle. Probably less than half.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the purpose of the NGSW is domestic "policing" regardless of whatever hype they spin around non existant russian and chink armor. This is why they purged a signifigant portion of the armed forces. They want servile low iq mercenaries with no understanding or value for civics or the republic as a whole

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How does that make sense? Most of the US population is urban or suburban. Why the fuck would they adopt a 12-13lbs battle rifle to go door kicking through cities and suburbs?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >reee 13lbs is too heavy
          do some push-ups. the weight is irrelevant anyway. a lot of Americans are into body armor and plenty of them go for level IV ceramic plates. The new round is meant to defeat this armor. Throw in the new optic and even Agu and Ajamu and his imported Nigerian replacements for disloyal US servicemen can outshoot bubba and his boys with the push of a button.
          >why do the managers masquerading as leaders, who hate all of us, want to go door to door in suburban and rural America to force compliance and get rid of dissidents. I omit the cities because the cities are safe. They’re under control and are no threat to those in power.
          >but muh mostly peaceful riots
          collateral damage. the people effected are still going to vote for the same people that enabled the rioters in the first place. one more in person vote is one less ballot the counters have to cook up during their 3am democracy fortification

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >a lot of Americans are into body armor and plenty of them go for level IV ceramic plates
            not that many, and we already have millions of rounds of M993 and M995 that will go through lvl 4 plates anyway.

            And as we already know, 6.8x51 ball rounds wont be going through lvl 4 plates anyway, so you'd need the $22/shot "SP" special purpose 6.8x51 round which is even more expensive than M993 or M995, which again, the military already has, and can shoot from the M4, M249, M240b, and various DMRs and will go through lvl 4 plates just fine.

            Your argument makes no logical sense.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cities
            >safe
            bahahahahahah

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP is a fag
    now that aside here's a real question, what is stopping the company that make the HCAR to make the BAR ? or at least BAR parts ? does browning still hold the patents and won't share or is the HCAR internal and external parts different from the original BAR ?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ohio Ordinance Works makes repro BARs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh shit, i wasn't aware of that, thanks anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They currently only make repros of the A2 model, but have done limited edition runs of WWI-era BAR's which cost a pretty penny.
          The first few thousand they built were from mostly un-used surplus parts.
          But now they are made from all new-production parts.
          It's probably one of the nicest WWII repros I've come across.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who is this appealing to that would spend $6500 on it? For people who like modern guns you can get something amazing for $6500 that is incredibly gucci and blows away the HCAR. For people who like older guns this looks nothing like the gun it was based on. It's not a replica so there is no value for the WW2 enthusiast.

    So who is left to spend $6500 on a gun that seemingly has no niche appeal? People who like WW2 guns want them to look like WW2 guns. People who like modern guns want min/maxed features which this gun does not have.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well anon there’s this little fading concept called having fun. Not everything has to be super duper practical high speed low drag 1337 operator seal team 6 approved ya know?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but the only people who review and seem to like this gun are online opr8rs because they're the only people stupid enough to spend that kind of money on it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Explain how the $6500 HCAR is fun then. Why is it more fun than any other firearm activity you can do with $6500? For example I'd have more fun using that money to deck out an MP5 with a binary trigger and a ton of ammo to go to down with. I could elaborate on why most people would have more fun shooting that than the HCAR. What appeal do you feel the HCAR has? Who is it appealing to and why?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Talking about fun like it's some sort of objective thing instead of subjective
          Some people literally think that getting kicked in the balls repeatedly is a fun time, anon. Just because you think an MP5 would be more fun doesn't mean that other people all have to agree with that

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Some people literally think that getting kicked in the balls repeatedly is a fun time, anon. Just because you think an MP5 would be more fun doesn't mean that other people all have to agree with that
            So there's enough people who think getting kicked in the balls is fun to charge 6500 for it?

            >Who is this appealing to that would spend $6500 on it? For people who like modern guns you can get something amazing for $6500 that is incredibly gucci and blows away the HCAR. For people who like older guns this looks nothing like the gun it was based on. It's not a replica so there is no value for the WW2 enthusiast.
            HEAVY COUNTER ASSAULT RIFLE

            it's claim to fame is that it shoots .30-06 which M2 AP was readily available at the time. do you not get it? For shooting people with body armor.

            >do you not get it? For shooting people with body armor.
            So there's enough of a market to charge 6500 for a heavy impractical weapon that doesn't actually penetrate body armor?
            >b-but it penetrates really shitty armor!!!
            Please don't be obtuse.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>do you not get it? For shooting people with body armor.
              >So there's enough of a market to charge 6500 for a heavy impractical weapon that doesn't actually penetrate body armor?
              >>b-but it penetrates really shitty armor!!!
              >Please don't be obtuse.
              do you understand how fucking old it is? it did not come out yesterday you fucking retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >do you understand how fucking old it is? it did not come out yesterday you fucking retard
                So why is it still worth 6500 if it doesn't even do what it was originally intended for?
                >i-it appeals to people who like WW2 weapons!!!
                No it does not, as it looks nothing like one
                >i-it appeals to people who like modern gucci min/maxed weapons!!!
                No it does not, because it's only superficially modern and is not at all min/maxed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So why is it still worth 6500 if it doesn't even do what it was originally intended for?
                the point was to shoot .30-06

                it does it. it shoots .30-06 AP. This thing came out like a decade ago when IV armor wasn't as good and also wasn't as wide spread.

                >i-it appeals to people who like WW2 weapons!!!
                >i-it appeals to people who like modern gucci min/maxed weapons!!!
                I didn't say either of these you fucking retard. put a gun (if you actually have one) and blow your tiny brain all over your mother's basement

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it does it. it shoots .30-06 AP.
                The use case was to buy it to penetrate armor. It no longer achieves this purpose against modern readily available inexpensive armor. So who is still paying 6500 for it?
                >i-it appeals to people who like WW2 weapons!!!
                >i-it appeals to people who like modern gucci min/maxed weapons
                It won't appeal to either of these groups so it's already on a very limited market. What's its niche?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                people who want to shoot .30-06.

                dumb fuck.

                what's next? Literally every gun in your "arsenal" (kys if you actually use that term) has to have a specific purpose? like you can't just have to have a bunch of guns that you bought because you like them?

                You need the exact loadouts that your guntuber parasocial friends tell you to have or you will die in the streets?

                You're sitting here arguing against a gun, instead of just saying "oh that's not for me". What's next, .500 S&W AR-15s are stupid?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people who want to shoot .30-06.
                People who want to shoot .30-06 are usually fuds and or hunters. The .30-06 market is so hot that the fuds and hunters who use it want a superficially modern instagram operator gun to shoot .30-06 with? Seems hard to believe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But it exists and someone must have bought it. Just like these.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Looks like it'd actually be fun to shoot, but pretty annoying that it is limited to 9 round mags.
                >MSRP $2,400
                See this is reasonably priced and is much more interesting than the HCAR despite being more than 50% cheaper. I could see people buying the AR500 for that price. The HCAR just puzzles me, I can afford it but I'd never buy it. Seems pointless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Who is this appealing to that would spend $6500 on it? For people who like modern guns you can get something amazing for $6500 that is incredibly gucci and blows away the HCAR. For people who like older guns this looks nothing like the gun it was based on. It's not a replica so there is no value for the WW2 enthusiast.
      HEAVY COUNTER ASSAULT RIFLE

      it's claim to fame is that it shoots .30-06 which M2 AP was readily available at the time. do you not get it? For shooting people with body armor.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >30-06
    .270 is better and the new caliber is pretty similar to it. what i wonder is why there are 30-06 semiautos like garands, bar reproductions, hcars, but no .270 ones.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .30-06 was great for killing Japs but the ammo is heavy. Mor weight = less boom. Besides, the zipperheads showed us it was too beaucoup and unnecessary when everybody has select fire. It is still good for sniping but there is a lot of competition there.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This gun only exists to part those weird boomers that are simultaneously tactitards and fudds away from their money

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