With the CEP of Russian missiles, they have greater chance of nuking their own defensive lines and doing all of the Ukie's hard work for them whilst unleashing all the consequences of breaking the nuclear taboo upon themselves as well.
I'm starting to come around to that whole thread about Teller being a larp, I can't find any sources for the sex stuff, which could be true, but especially not for the NRC reprimanding him for having his own personal gadget + core.
>Robotyne has the highest elevation in the area. It lets Ukraine destroy Russian logistics deep into Zaporhizia
How long does Ukraine need to hold it to earn the victory point?
Victory won't come until they route every Russian rat out of the south and the only way to do that is to physically escort them out of that territory.
Every serious analyst expects the battle for Southern Ukraine to go well into 2024 but it will only be possible if the West continues to support Ukraine and there are real concerns about this. This is about the time where the West has classically given up in these types of wars. They always drop the ball at the exact worst time.
The entire south, maybe, but artillery in Robotyne cutting off logistics would starve everything west since the only supply route would be from Chrimea, and I don't think anyone thinks that supplying an entire front from a bomb-magnet of a bridge is a sound idea.
The Russians have shown that they are willing to eat shit to hang on to every millimeter of land until they get destroyed and are forced to run away, like rats. Just like northern/western side of Kherson and Kharkiv and Snake Island.
They are going to continue to supply all of those troops in the south throughout the winter as best they can even if it's done poorly in the most painstaking way.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The Russians have shown that they are willing to eat shit to hang on to every millimeter of land until they get destroyed and are forced to run away
One summary I read was that there's basically two motives behind this spate of costly Russian counterattacks when a savvier move would be to withdraw and offer defense from behind prepared fortifications:
First, the officers closer to the front want to be able to report the good news that "we're attacking them" or "we advanced a little" up the chain, so they double down on bad bets and attrit a disproportionate amount of their own combat effectiveness.
Second, the higher-ups and the Kremlin are absolutely desperate to push the narrative of "Ukraine isn't beating Russia quickly enough, look how little the AFU has advanced! Guess the counteroffensive is now over and the West should immediately cut support, right?" They fight tooth and nail for every millimeter not out of principle but to sell that propaganda narrative, because they know that if Western support is reduced they can eke out some sort of a "win" in negotiations, but if it's increased they're fucked long-term.
So in both cases their strategy gets focused less on cutting their losses in exchange for battlefield effectiveness, and more towards feeding even more mobiks to the cube in the hopes of hitting a lower-probability lucky result. It's like a guy with serious gambling debts wrecking his finances even further rather than admit he's in trouble, hoping that the next batch of 50-to-1 bets will pay off enough to break even.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Fuck conditional surrender, they lie about anything anyways, why negotiate at all
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Fuck conditional surrender, they lie about anything anyways, why negotiate at all
This. The only way out if every single last zigger killed. It's the way it has to be and they choose it so let them have it. Total commitment NATO nuclear strike against their cities, nuclear arsenal and trial and military and strategic sites with everything that kills.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Total Zigger Death.
Muscovia Delenda Est.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Muscovia Delenda Est.
A very moderate stance. Burn them all alive with no warning or threat just do it. Let's go.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm thinking something a little more... intense. Some of them might survive the glassing. Better prepare some guys to clean up.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Ooo so scary lmao you can't even secure your border, mutt
1 month ago
Anonymous
Burn motherfucker. You're going to be fried alive like a human candle.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Two more weeks
1 month ago
Anonymous
Do it and it's two more minutes for you. Come on do it you fucking cowards all talk and no walk, ladies and gentlemen, the cowardly Russian scum. Give me the button to nuke m Moscow and I'll fucking headbutt it and start this shit
1 month ago
Anonymous
Lmao internet tough guy in shill
1 month ago
Anonymous
You're going to fucking die for Putin. Good.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Thank you for posting on a weapons board, ma'am
Hopefully you find the right calibre to renovate your walls with your brains
1 month ago
Anonymous
You are being replaced by churkas as we speak lmao
>Every serious analyst
There's your problem, I was shitposting about how Robotyne seems like that one hill in the middle of a 40k board that you need to occupy for three turns to win, or the strategic location that gives you extra supply in CoH2
depends on how many supplies the Russians between Tokmak and Donetsk have stockpiled
With Tokmak under ukie fire control consumption will now be exceeding available throughput by an operationally significant degree
>Isn't Robotyne a tiny village? Why are they so upset about losing it?
It's behind the first (and best-defended) of three trench lines after all those miles of pre-sighted artillery and minefields, so it means the AFU is way closer to breaching the Surovikin Line than the Russians ever intended them to be.
There's also the "Schrödinger's Vatnik" paradox, where Robotyne is, simultaneously, both a village of 260 population pre-war so tiny and insignificant it proves the Ukrainian counteroffensive has failed and the UN should force a peace settlement where Russia gets everything it ever wanted forever, but also important enough for a Duma representative to threaten to noooooooook.
Imagine losing so badly that they need to nuke a village in order for their front to not collapse.
>Imagine losing so badly that they need to nuke a village in order for their front to not collapse.
Yeah. Picrel from yesterday sums it up nicely.
Also by taking Robotyne Ukrainians have a noticeable success to demoralize ziggers and give western journos positive energy (notice the uptick of "the counteroffensive might still surprise us" articles from the vermin). That's unironically as important a reason for the stupid counterattacks and involving fresh VEH's from Kreminna as the breaching of best line is.
They do realise if they use a nuke, ukraine get a support that will dwarf whatever was given so far? And that all kind of retards all around the world will come to kick the asses of the vatniks? Its gonna be like a holy crusade against them, to remove the threat of the retard with nukes.
With all that said, nuke themm russians. It will benefit everyone but you <3
>I've been hoping for a full on nuclear conflict since the start but alas it won't happen
If Russia uses a nuke NATO will hit Russia with everything. It won't be a conflict so much as a wipeout though. It has not been a game of MAD or equals for decades
There has to be a limit on Russian stupidity, right? >Let's just casually give every other world power a reason to delete the entire Russian land mass, just to delete a village
Qrd on the Poseidon? Is that thing another cope wunderwaffe that doesn’t work? Are they saving it for when the gloves are off, the eyebrows risen and the ass in the ass? Is it even real?
It's another cope wunderwaffe that doesn’t work.
The physics doesn't even remotely make sense.
To create a tsunami of the scale they claim Poseidon is capable of, it would need a multi-gigaton warhead.
The actual effects of this weapon would be pathetic compared to what they claim it can do.
And they won't have the balls to ever use this retarded weapon anyway since it would constitute a nuclear first-strike and the target nation would be fully justified in responding with ICBMs.
Originally it was a soviet prototype of strategic nuclear torpedo from the times before ICBM. Afaik they even tested it in miniature at some lake and found out that physics behind this are completely bullocks and it's not worth developing hypercomplex autonomous uboat sized torpedo over it.
Yet someone dug up the archives and sold it to monke as an incredible wunderwaffen that NATO would shit its pants over, being a complete retard he gladly jumped on a scam-train and now russian propaganda is forced to make fake CGI about muh scawy nook to pretend like it wasn't a dumbest idea ever
>British person on the coast: Woah look at that explosion out there! >British person on the coast: wow it even made the water rise a little bit. Man my feet got wet! How neat. Anyways.
Proper translation for the bongs in the thread >geezer 1: Oi check out that massive fuck-off bomb! >geezer 2: made the fookin water rise! Bollocks, me feet got wet. Go on then.
Just imagine how many yachts you can embezzle with such a project.
Imagine if they really used this?
>British person on the coast: Woah look at that explosion out there! >British person on the coast: wow it even made the water rise a little bit. Man my feet got wet! How neat. Anyways.
Proper translation for the bongs in the thread >geezer 1: Oi check out that massive fuck-off bomb! >geezer 2: made the fookin water rise! Bollocks, me feet got wet. Go on then.
Knowing how a tiny bit of snow can effectively put the whole country into a standstill, something like this is a tit concerning, don't you think.
>no guys we are totally not a cartoonishly evil comic book villain what gave you that idea
when's the last time the US bragged about being able to annihilate the planet if it ever gets bored
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all i really remember is when john mccain sung barbara ann as "bomb iran" but that was like military humor and we always talked about just glassing the entire middle east, although probably more facetious than anything else
The purpose of NOOOOOK threats specifically doesn't actually have anything to do with considerations of using nuclear weapons. They throw these out so that the same retard boomers who thought Nordstream-2 was a good idea will think "OH GEEZ RUSSIA ISN'T PLAYING AROUND WE BETTER GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT"
>Isn't the Duma literally a political circus with no power?
no, they have enough power to play their part. Codename "Rabid printer". they produce a shitton of shitty laws, Putin only has to rubberstamp.
>robotnik holding
yet >no geolocated vatniks fighting in it >no geolocated vatniks fighting in close proximity around it >fighting has been geolocated to the south of it near Novoprokopivka >also about 4km west of Verbove, to the south as well
Moreover, that whole "let's conduct a retarded counter-attack over every lost inch until our brigade(s) die" doesn't constitute "holding".
This would arguably be much safer for Russia, because when their shoddily maintained ICBM explodes in its Russian silo in Russia, there'll be a little extra garbage but no danger of fallout.
nobody uses conventional ICBMs because it is impossible to differentiate an ICBM launch based on what kind of warhead it has, so an enemy nuclear power would see a fired ICBM as an imminent nuclear attack.
>launch ICBM >NORAD detects the launch and immediately assumes it’s a First Strike because there is literally no other reason to launch one >NATO immediately responds with a massive retaliatory nuclear attack on an unsuspecting Russia
I think they used them in their "alternate mode" which means swapping the nuke for conventional explosives. Given the weight and size of the intended nuke that's still a lot of boom.
Some models of rocket/cruise missile had this option planned from the get go, others were more of less jury rigged, iirc.
Can they replace their ICBMs if they use them up? Even if they don't aggro the rest of the world, spending all their working ICBMs means they no longer have the means to seriously threaten their rivals.
Only in the parts they want. Russia is simultaneously a true member of Europe and heir to Rome, and also separate from the gay globohomo Europe that's about to be swallowed by muslims and Black folks. Reality is irrelevant.
Tsar is spun off from Caesar, same way German Emperor was called Kaiser. There's a lot of Roman influence in European history, and many claim that they inherited the Roman emperor, even though there was an actual inheritor state to the east, and the Italian states that replaced Rome are also proper inheritors.
they are big on larping as rome like every historical european power, in their case they like to larp more as eastern rome/Constantinople, that's why they called them tsars.
Russian prince married a Byzantine princess, then Constantinople fell and since then Moscow's been larping as the 3rd Rome with the whole Tzar thing
even though you know, commies fucking murdered their royal family but such minor details can't possibly compete with Russian mental gymnastics
it's like a wacky EU4 mod that lets you form Hyperborea as a meme, except it's actually a real thing that happened irl
>Russian prince married a Byzantine princess, then Constantinople fell and since then Moscow's been larping as the 3rd Rome
It goes deeper.
First, it's been centuries between that and when the claims were brought up the first time, I'm pretty confident byzantine dynasties had changed few times over this time already.
Second, muscovy clan were a pretty fucking distant offshoots of the Rurikovichs while main line still existed in Kyiv and was absorbed into Lithuania shortly after mongols invasion, so if anything, Commonwealth was more in right to claim the Third Rome or whatever.
And third one, Ivan the chud fucking died leaving no successors, Romanovs have absolutely fucking nothing to do with Rurikovichs and didn't had a legitimate claim even over the muscovy, let alone some extended claims of completely different dynasty. They basically broke the last tiny threads that still tied them to the old Ruthenia at this point and re-emerged as a completely separate entity.
1 month ago
Anonymous
There's also a religious claim, that with Constantinople's fall the leadership of the Orthodox church fell to Muscovy. The whole Third Rome thing came from a letter a monk wrote to the Grand Prince in the early 16th Century. I don't lend this claim much credence, especially with how the Russian Church has twisted into worshiping the idea of Russia itself rather than God or Jesus, but it does exist.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>also a religious claim
Russian religious claims are even more hilarious. They aren't even a legal church. Back at the time they kidnapped Constantinople Patriarch to force him to recognize their independence and claim over Kyiv Metropoly, which he refused to do anyway, so they completely forged the things and were excommunicated from Orthodoxy respectively.
Russian Orthodoxy are officially antichrists circa XV century.
1 month ago
Anonymous
what?
I thought that had happened only a few years ago as a temper tantrum for Ukraine getting a tomos
Jack, you're telling me the Russian Orthodox Church went like this >I'm excommunicated? I'M EXCOMMUNICATED >Well, *I* excommunicate MYSELF from you
1 month ago
Anonymous
Their claim is bogus since they overthrew and murdered the Tsar. The last vestiges of the legal government fled and remained in Finland, thus Finland is the only legal heir to Rome.
Russians claim to be the inheritors of Rome through the Byzantines since some Emperor married a Russian. Which is about as legit a claim as every other European empire that has tried to LARP as the successors of Rome, that is to say, complete bullshit.
A remarkably large portion of European history can be summed up as various countries LARPing as Rome. It's kind of hard to overstate the influence Rome has had on western history, even though it fell almost 2000 years ago. Shit even America does it, why do you think it's called the Pax Americana?
technically "Rome" fell in 1453, "Byzantines" is a made up term by western historians to claim direct continuity from the version of Rome from antiquity
>causing the first nuclear war since 1945 >a limited nuclear war >no devastating first strike, no decapitation, no MAD >no concern about NATO retaliation >decisively prove to the entire world that modern Russia is a rabid dog with WMDs >flush the post-Cold War nuclear peace down the shitter and turn it into open invitation for global nuke proliferation if there's no retaliation >all for a middle-of-nowhere village of 480 people total pre-war
I don't know about the state of Russian nukes, but my erection has already gone hypercritical.
>no concern about NATO retaliation
NATO will retaliate to any unilateral use of nuclear weapons. The precedent is intolerable and an existential threat to western countries.
China is very much against it, it's clear in all of their public and internal stances. Russia would be risking getting kicked out of the UN Security Council and permanently debasing itself for the rest of this century if not forever.
And god help them if the fallout were to actually hurt Europeans because they would unironically lose their shit. All of that just to destroy a few Ukrainian soldiers in some shit hole town.
obviously a very bad outcome for russia, but its still not as bad as what's going to happen once ukranians reach the azov sea. there's going to be a massive rout towards crimea and a total collapse. and then there would be unrest in russia itself. maybe even dissolution of the state into warring factions. at this point russia is fighting for its own survival. finding a way to use nukes without getting nuked in return is definitely in their interest, even if it causes other problems
There's no way Russia can get away with nuking without actually putting the country in existential jeopardy instead of simply pretending the country will collapse if they loose Crimea like they currently are.
The US has basicly told monke that a nuclear strike in Ukraine would mean a conventional intervention from the US and nato to destroy the Russian army in Ukraine and destroy the black sea fleet.
There was a bunch about this earlier in the year when Russia was threatening nooks more than normal.
Basicly a Russian nuclear strike in Ukraine guarantees a Russian loss in Ukraine.
>The US has basicly told monke that a nuclear strike in Ukraine would mean a conventional intervention from the US and nato to destroy the Russian army in Ukrain
Russia cannot admit that it's losing to Ukraine.
if it becomes clear that Russia will lose, monke might deliberately drag the US into the war to wipe out Russia just so Putin can say he lost to the US instead of Ukraine.
Actually Xi told Putin that he would be personally targeted with the first nuke in retaliation. The west said nothing to him at all. The wests response is known and has always been the same, if Russia or previously the USSR uses a nuke it goes all in with EVERYTHING nuclear and conventional. Russia would simply cease to exist within 24 hours. The rest of the world and the west would be fine but the constant threat would be gone and so would Russia.
Dunno what you're talking about mate, I've been calling for zigger genocide ever since Bucha. Try to make a new meme next time rather than taking one that makes you super mad and lazily flipping the targets
Bucha, the Izium mass graves, the mass rapes of Ukrainian women, the castration of Ukrainian POWs, the mass abduction of Ukrainian children are but a few of the horrors for which Russia must answer.
Total Zigger Death. Muscovia Delenda Est.
Duma does not have the authority to do this, only Putin and the army. They don't take orders from the Duma anyways, since it's just a puppet of Putin. Instead, this is for internal consumption and to get brownie points for Putin by showing yourself as the most fanatical.
Fug can't someone paper airplane drone Kadyrov? Out of all the jokers I hate him the most. Prig is at least an entertaining chap RIP the madman. He was basically doing what any PrepHoleanon would be up to if given a blank cheque to create a world wide mercenary army.
Pretty sure NATO already told them if they pulled this shit there wouldn't be any Russian military left in Ukraine. Considering how much of the Russian military is currently in Ukraine this would essentially be the destruction of the Russian military.
European and American officials say there will be dire consequences. Then NATO said if there was nuclear fallout in NATO countries it would constitute an attack. Then former American military officials say that any nuclear attack in Ukraine would be met with overwhelming conventional response to force Russia out of Ukraine.
No official spokesperson for NATO or USA has said exactly what is going ot happen, but a massive conventional response is the most likely. It is why they won't do jack shit and will just talk big about using nuclear weapons.
>exactly what is going ot happen >delete black see fleet >delete western strategic air bases - kursk, saratov >delete all T-34 in Ukraine >Wooden tomahawk on red square and Yamantau >Do not elaborate
Literally anything a Duma representative says is just propaganda. Those people are all friends and/or bought and paid for by Putin and his inner circle. In fact they often mouth hyper belligerent BS but everyone knows it’s just talk.
Some people reached out to Russian opposition parties on twitter and elsehwere, telling them that this is such a golden opportunity to criticize Putin. They responded with all the same RUSSIA STRONG UKRONAZIS GONNA DIE shit.
See, you can still support Russia and even the invasion, but just say that it's so botched that the war is a hopeless slaughter. You can hang the failures on Putin and call for real systematic change. All while never saying Russia is bad or anything, you can do it purely from a nationalist standpoint. The war is badly managed, hopeless, and shown the intense corruption and weakness of Rusisa.
But even the "opposition" is there to support the government. Any serious opposition got murdered.
>They’re going to get done dirty like best girl becca got done dirty: crushed by ass from the sky, but then everyone will be knowing
Yeah, that scene in Cyberpunk where Dr. Robotnik smothers the entire cast to death with his ass was the most kino that Trigger has ever been.
>nuke robotnik >get french to "warning shot" nuke kerch bridge with ASMP >maybe have impromptu fleet by send rest of black fleet to moskva if feeling really Hispanicy
NAFO when Ukraine hits another bridge that gets repaired in 16 hours >hahaha take that Russia, you sowed the wind and reap the whirlwind
NAFO when Putin gets ready to launch a nuke >nooooo you can't do that it's just a small village pwease don't
>The last time the west was ruthless was when you were majority white.
Shut up turdie
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh, I'm sorry. You were brown by the time the that happened, I forgot about that onE!
1 month ago
Anonymous
The only thing between the West and the genocide of all turdie subhumans is our benevolent humanitarian ROEs. When those are not enforced you cry like morones about muh warcrimes.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I guess you've never heard of Vietnam
you better hope we don't decide to defoliate the tundra. Napalm and Rainbow Agents, shipped express.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>>The last time the west was ruthless
Yeah?
The west killed a million arabs because one of them knocked down a skyscraper for his pedo prophet. Russia for threatening to nuke them? Russians better hope they die in the first wave. The west won't be so kind and gentle and loving with any that survive.
>Lmao, in what world do you live in? The last time the west was ruthless was when you were majority white. Like 80 years ago lmao
I'd happily cut your throat. Don't doubt it.
The west won't do shit.
Just like you won't do shit when the 2nd amendment is scrapped.
>The west won't do shit.
The West has ALREADY determined that Russia needs to conclusively lose this one. Russia broke its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum, wiped their ass on the Helsinki Accords, and publicly trashed any credibility on the world stage with their blatant lies (picrel) before launching a sneak attack to try and annex a sovereign state. If Putin accomplishes anything at all that he can spin as a "win" it only emboldens other rogue states and bad actors, and if it looks like that might happen the West will nudge the ball onto the fairway however they need to. They'll fake a Gulf of Tonkin Incident or something if it comes to that.
The only reason that the West hasn't been more blatant about it is that (so far) they haven't needed to. Intelligence-sharing plus financial and military aid to Ukraine plays a lot better than a direct smackdown from every conventional deterrent NATO has to offer, both to domestic and foreign audiences. Moving from irresponsible threats to actually discharging a nuke is literally the one event that would change all those opinions in favor of direct, immediate, fully-committed involvement. Even China would probably throw down against Russia -- letting NATO do everything would lose Xi so much face internationally that every nation the PRC fishing fleet has bullied would start a staredown.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Serious question. Why do thirdies, brown subhumans and autocrats have a hard time figuring out Westen democracies? Why do they see contracts, principle of pacta sunt servanda, honest dealings and conciliatory attitude as weakness? Why do these shitholes that ironically are propped up by the global order of trade and contracts that the West has built constantly try to fuck with the pillars and committed protectors of that very same order?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Because they're retarded, anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Turdies and autocrats don't understand the West for the same reason why the West consistently underestimates the willingness of turdies and autocrats to start shit; both assume the other thinks the same way they do. The West just wants stability and money, so they make lucrative trade deals and infrastructure projects with countries like Russia and China because they think Russia and China want that too; Russia and China want to conquer everything, and so they assume the West does as well, which is why they always describe NATO as a conquering empire like Nazi Germany.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Russia and China want to conquer everything, and so they assume the West does as well, which is why they always describe NATO as a conquering empire like Nazi Germany.
Kinda explains why there's always a smell of projection in their anti-West propaganda. Thanks anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
acknowledging that we are the real deal means acknowledging that they could be doing better and aren't
no one likes admitting that they are a failure
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Why do they see contracts, principle of pacta sunt servanda, honest dealings and conciliatory attitude as weakness?
We know the answer because this exists in the west also.
There are always people who fancy themselves predators and who consider themselves strong because they have the will to break the rules, while the rest of society thinks this just makes them short-sighted, irrational and sociopathic...and medically speaking, we tend to be right because such types usually turn out to be mildly brain-damaged if you get a chance to study them.
It's a very similar phenomenon scaled up to the geopolitical scale, complete with the same kinds of magical thinking that demands everyone else just let them win.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's the only thing that they know will work. Particularly egregious examples are the ones who used to have a large empire in the past like russians, chinks, arabs etc. They like to look back on their le good old times with rose tinted glasses as if their heckin based an trad strongmen leaders are the only driving factor for that """"prosperity""""
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't know, why do westerners struggle to understand all of that themselves?
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's funny how turdies do not get that the West is being lazy and cheap, but still commited to make Ukraine win.
If we really wanted to do anything ourselves, Russia would have been BTFO long ago with even only the EU deploying their armies.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>being lazy and cheap
it probably would have been cheaper to go all in
1 month ago
Anonymous
>commited to make Ukraine win
No, not really. They're committed for Ukraine not to lose, but that's it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Russia would have been BTFO long ago with even only the EU deploying their armies.
At this point, Greece could 1v1 Russia.
1 month ago
Anonymous
China gets involved specifically so they have a role in partitioning.
>The west won't do shit.
NATO has been preparing for this inevitability for years and a nuclear escalation obviously cannot be tolerated or ignored.
If a tactical nuclear weapon get deployed, a NATO response will be an absolute geopolitical certainty.
NATO would likely start bombing Russia in Ukraine or wipe out Russia's black sea fleet.
We might also see a naval blockade of Russia.
>If a tactical nuclear weapon get deployed, a NATO response will be an absolute geopolitical certainty. >NATO would likely start bombing Russia in Ukraine or wipe out Russia's black sea fleet. >We might also see a naval blockade of Russia.
Wrong you fucking retard.
There is only one response to unprovoked use of nuclear weapons and that is a NUCLEAR First Strike.
Escalation is utterly irrelevant by that point, the only thing that matters is depriving Russia of its ability to use its nuclear arsenal PERMANENTLY. And that can only be achieved by massive preemptive use of nuclear weapons by NATO. Millions would die from the Russian missiles that do manage to get out of their silos anyway yes, but it would be drastically fewer deaths than would result from NATO launching a purely conventional response and then Russia launching a First Strike on NATO in a moment of panic. It’s going to be what makes the difference between 10 million dead Americans and 100 million dead Americans.
Boris Yeltsin you drunken fuck this is all your fault. How did you manage to fuck up that bady?
Russians claim to be the inheritors of Rome through the Byzantines since some Emperor married a Russian. Which is about as legit a claim as every other European empire that has tried to LARP as the successors of Rome, that is to say, complete bullshit.
A remarkably large portion of European history can be summed up as various countries LARPing as Rome. It's kind of hard to overstate the influence Rome has had on western history, even though it fell almost 2000 years ago. Shit even America does it, why do you think it's called the Pax Americana?
USA are not literally the third Rome, but they are figuratively the Third Rome. Their politics, status, and architecture give them that right.
While true the US did also deliberately model itself off of Rome from the start, long before its ascension to global hegemon and symbol of western civilization was anything more than a crazy pipe dream. The founding fathers were larping as Rome at least as hard as England or the HRE did.
Wow I knew the Bloomberg demoralizers and Russian shills were one and the same but you didn’t have to put it all out in the open holy fuck >you won’t do shit >Bruen is meaningless >SCOTUS doesn’t take gun cases >Russia is winning
>I knew the Bloomberg demoralizers and Russian shills were one and the same but you didn’t have to put it all out in the open
You are now aware of how many gun control threads are basically asking the least stable PrepHole posters to assassinate government officials, start civil conflicts and destabilise the US.
And you've already worked out the reasons why.
Keep thinking the people who want you dead are just Ukrainian or American. You keep whispering that to yourself. You and your family are going to die. Burnt and irradiated. The worst part? You deserve it. The world will celebrate.
No, the Ukies can afford better shills than the Russians can, which is why they come up with their own shit instead of repeating what their opponents are saying but swapping words around.
Did you see them trying to make a Cat thread about how Ukraine would never take Robotyne yesterday?
>How valuable is this place if they are screaming noooks?
End game. Its too late the much of the Russia forces have broken and are fleeing. Thus nukes. NATO should hit them now with everything. End it. Enough of their fucking threats.
It has more to do with the fact that Russia absolutely cannot allow Ukraine to reach Tokmak or let the defensive line collapse.
If that were to happen the result would be the loss of half the occupied areas in Ukraine and we would basically end up with the borders before the war started...
It would also create a genuine possibility of Ukraine retaking Crimea and completely ousting Russia from the country.
To expand upon what others have said, taking Robotyne brings the Ukrainians considerably closer to placing all of Russia's logistical routes that provide for all of their forces west of Melitopol in tube artillery range. If that happens then Russia's position in the Kherson oblast becomes completely untenable and the soldiers there will be forced to withdraw or die. The result of this would be Russia losing the landbridge to Crimea (bascially Russia's minimum objective for this war) and putting Crimea under siege. Needless to say, this is A Bad Look for Russia. I don't doubt that Monke would trade Luganda and Dombabwe for Crimea in a heartbeat.
What happens after that depends entirely on how spent the Ukrainians are after retaking Kherson oblast.
The point is that for all the "hurr durr Ukraine has barely captured anything" means that the Russians in Zap are on a god damn timer after this. They are going ot have to lose and withdraw in the longterm which means that the counter-offensive would be a massive success. Seeing Ukraine flag flying in Meriopol would be the most mind blowing shit ever.
Every duma representative, oligarchs, small businessman or governor from shithole in Asia who steal money, has kids and family in west. Sure, they gonna nook. Only poor vatnigers belive in we will kill you all if we want.
Found out why ukie shills are in "le scary psycho" mode calling for genocide.
Robotyne hasn't been taken despite shills saying for over a week that it was! LMAO
I am invoking No Balls. If Russia breaks the pact of No Balls, they shall be declared gays until the end of time.
No balls.
You wont do it.
You are cowards.
why? ukies alone are enough to win.
You don't think that war is suppossed to be a "fair fight" or childish shit like that, right?
We reserve ourselves as a contingency.
If I were in a position of power within the US armed forces I would petition a Desert Storm-like coalition to kick these fucking vodka morons out of Ukraine. They wont do shit. They dont have the capacity to do shit. I would bet money that most of their nukes are either disassembled or otherwise non-functional. And even if they did do shit I would fucking turn every city they have with more than 50,000 population into radioactive craters for the next 300 years. And it would all be worth it to finally rid the world of these snow morons once and for all.
Full front war would possibly end in...
ICBMs
and be very lethal to both sides + to millions of civvies
Not worth the cost of helping Russia lose a war they don't seem to be winning.
1. It's a tiny village that's not in latin script. Before this there was no consensus on how to translate it best since there was no need. Do you think that some small town in spain has a singular way to spell it in cyrrilic script?
2. It's a strange name to westerners, so people simply get it wrong.
>Not knowing how to translate vodkarunes into Roboutiny
NGMI. Shitposting aside, I think it might have something to do with the differences between Russian and Ukrainian, sorta like the Kiev/Kyiv thing.
Why the hell are there 30 different ways to spell Robotyne
1. It's a tiny village that's not in latin script. Before this there was no consensus on how to translate it best since there was no need. Do you think that some small town in spain has a singular way to spell it in cyrrilic script?
2. It's a strange name to westerners, so people simply get it wrong.
There's a big shit fight on Wikipedia's Robotyne talk page, someone removed the alternate Russian name and people are calling those who want it back rashists and getting 3 day b&s, it's hilarious.
>Why the hell are there 30 different ways to spell Robotyne
It's just the difference between Robotyne/Poбoтинe (Ukrainian) and Robotino/poбoтин (Russian) but the Russian version isn't very official so it gets transliterated a few different ways by different English-writing journalists.
So Putin is now threatening to nuke a backwater country Hamlet.
Can we get a mirror posting. With prigs death, this, the now reported and bring researched cannibalism going on in the Russian rat nest.
How are the Russians and their fans so insane. They ran out of food, so they ate leather and rats, they ran out of rats and are now eating each other, grass, leaves and their own shit. Yes you can eat your own shit to try to get nutrients out of it
the Russians are boiling their own shit and eating it out of desperation on top of the rat eating and corpse cooking Whatt the fuck man.
Yeah it comes in bags.ths cube was funny at first then the machine, corpses and bags were found by drones. The Russians had a vatnik corpse get stuck in the wood chipper. When it was viidroed.you can see them trying to pull parts of the body out thathammed it up
If only I had a time machine so I could go back and tell that Russian child he would grow up to be cannon fodder. And his most notable achievement was his corpse clogging up a wood chipper in Ukraine that would then be filmed and shared online. So a bunch of autists on a basket weaving forum could laugh about it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Give me a minute. Here you go. I kept the filename name it should go back to the og thread weeks ago with the sources.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm still looking for the webdm of it where they are pulling on something and at the very end you see them pull a forearm and hand out
1 month ago
Anonymous
There it is. Thanks Anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
wait, the mobikube was real all along?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>wait, the mobikube was real all along?
Literally not true, but what they actually do isn't too far off. they leave them to rot in trenches, or they haul them off to crematoriums to process then declare them "missing".
1 month ago
Anonymous
My guess is
Absolutely. They were grinding up mutilated bodies and bagging them then putting them on pallets for disposal. It's cheaper faster and more efficient. Just tell the family they got blown apart.
It's a wood chipper with meat bags on the back. They have a the modified track feeding the bodies in. There is video of it not just clips. No one seems to care.
Disposal is taking the meat bags and feeding them to the troops near by in food. It's been ground up so much you wouldn't know and meat is expensive.
Remember Putin just killed priggy and no one cared. A normal vatnik is worth nothing but 60 kgs of meet is worth alot
1 month ago
Anonymous
No, the mobik cube is a joke you goof. It's literally just some animal organ meat. Why would they cube any of this shit when they have mobile crematoriums?
>The complete destruction of Russia's military
The Russian state is still intact as is its ability to use nuclear weapons on anyone it wants. It’s a slap on the wrist you dumbfuck. Moreover, even if it wasn’t, what do you a megalomaniac like Putin is going to do once he realizes that the jig is up and he’s going to die in a basement like the Romanovs? Is he going out quietly or with a bang?
No, we cannot risk that. The only response is First Strike and the complete destruction of the Russian state. It’s them or us.
>Moreover, even if it wasn’t, what do you a megalomaniac like Putin is going to do once he realizes that the jig is up and he’s going to die in a basement like the Romanovs?
Any such scenario isn't going to be because of USA though. They would follow the Persian Gulf war doctine, and they wouldn't invade Russia. In fact they would say they respect Russia's internationally recognized borders. But they'd harshly sanction and isolate Russia, having Ukraine and other countries like Nigeria to fill the void.
1 month ago
Anonymous
So they could take a couple billion in food and body disposal money and just do this because no one cares.
>Are you talking about the Pow Videos
Yeah, another thing that doesn't exist
I'm assuming this
[...]
Is what you are saying doesn't exist.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Don't try with them man. I gave them everything except the direct pedophilia links chug hàs openly hidden. They don't want to look or they want to look at child porn and can't figure it out.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>direct pedophilia links chug hàs openly hidden
W-What?
1 month ago
Anonymous
He's fucking lying, retard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nah, spamming CP on 4chan is just a thing they do when something greatly upsets them. One of the many reasons why grogtards fucking hate them is that they used to come onto other boards and spam it there are as well for teh lulz.
The newer generation spams e-boi now for the same reason, but it's less likely to get them sent to jail because the retards forget that their not as untraceable as they think they are.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Why would they cube any of this shit when they have mobile crematoriums?
Because those are running at capacity and still can't keep up with the deliveries.
There have been multiple reports of Russian soldiers being burnt in open pits because of this.
Complete or near complete cremation takes a lot of time, burning the body directly not so much and isn't limited in capacity of the oven.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It's been ground up so much you wouldn't know and meat is expensive
You've never butchered a carcass in your life and know nothing of how to prepare meat.
I doubt you've even ground meat for that matter or you'd know why all this is nonsense.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Absolutely. They were grinding up mutilated bodies and bagging them then putting them on pallets for disposal. It's cheaper faster and more efficient. Just tell the family they got blown apart.
It's a wood chipper with meat bags on the back. They have a the modified track feeding the bodies in. There is video of it not just clips. No one seems to care.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>There is video of it not just clips
May we see them?
Or is this like the /chug/ rape porn?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you talking about the Pow Videos
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Are you talking about the Pow Videos
Yeah, another thing that doesn't exist
1 month ago
Anonymous
>the box cutter video was faked
Fuck off /chug/
1 month ago
Anonymous
all of the reverse searches are coming up dry, man. tineye came back with a few twitter posts at the top of the year, but nothing with a video. most everything is deleted.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah it comes in bags.ths cube was funny at first then the machine, corpses and bags were found by drones. The Russians had a vatnik corpse get stuck in the wood chipper. When it was viidroed.you can see them trying to pull parts of the body out thathammed it up
https://i.imgur.com/AFtDSao.jpg
So Putin is now threatening to nuke a backwater country Hamlet.
Can we get a mirror posting. With prigs death, this, the now reported and bring researched cannibalism going on in the Russian rat nest.
How are the Russians and their fans so insane. They ran out of food, so they ate leather and rats, they ran out of rats and are now eating each other, grass, leaves and their own shit. Yes you can eat your own shit to try to get nutrients out of it
the Russians are boiling their own shit and eating it out of desperation on top of the rat eating and corpse cooking Whatt the fuck man.
https://i.imgur.com/Zzy1U4P.jpg
Give me a minute. Here you go. I kept the filename name it should go back to the og thread weeks ago with the sources.
You'd think with Wagner out of Ukraine and Prighozin dead the cannibalism shit would tone down a little but I guess its too early for that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Wagner's getting rolled into the army
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah but there's no way Wagner can keep up their organ harvesting and meat packing business afloat with Prigho dead, Concord will have to become a legitimate business or be shut down by the FSB.
>Starving Russians are boiling and eating their own shit whilst insisting that everything is fine
You don't drop a bombshell like that on us without some proof Anon.
Cannibalism is common enough in Russia that they dedicate entire areas of penal colonies too them, so that's not too surprising; but I have never heard of people falling so low that they start eating their own shit.
Please and thank you
DO IT gayS
You won’t do shit about it except raise the tariff on rice or something by 1.3%
>on rice
Which one are you, chink or pajeet?
I hope so.
With the CEP of Russian missiles, they have greater chance of nuking their own defensive lines and doing all of the Ukie's hard work for them whilst unleashing all the consequences of breaking the nuclear taboo upon themselves as well.
They should definitely fuck around and find out.
>shit CEP
hear me out
nuclear VBIED
We'll know it if we see it because it will a T-34 delivering it.
Go back to sleep Ed Teller. You'll need your energy for shagging over the demon core later.
I'm starting to come around to that whole thread about Teller being a larp, I can't find any sources for the sex stuff, which could be true, but especially not for the NRC reprimanding him for having his own personal gadget + core.
>nuke VBIED
>it's a buhanka with a seventy year old, unmaintained bomb in the back
>hits a mine
>it's a buhanka with a seventy year old, unmaintained bomb in the back
That's a very lewd image.
>using nuclear weapons on a village
dios mio... El Chud de Moscovia...
lel
>just saw a polkovnik ordering withdrawal instead of suicide
>Robotyne has fallen, milliards must ДИE
>Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Robotyne
>Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Robotyne
Dont forget Bikini Bottom
Isn't Robotyne a tiny village? Why are they so upset about losing it?
there's a large concentration of troops in that area, that general is right, tactical nuclear weapons should be used
>Opening the Pandora's box that is nuclear strikes to take out hundreds of troops
You realize how insane that is, right?
You realize you are talking to a vatnik, right?
Robotyne has the highest elevation in the area. It lets Ukraine destroy Russian logistics deep into Zaporhizia
>Robotyne has the highest elevation in the area. It lets Ukraine destroy Russian logistics deep into Zaporhizia
How long does Ukraine need to hold it to earn the victory point?
Victory won't come until they route every Russian rat out of the south and the only way to do that is to physically escort them out of that territory.
Every serious analyst expects the battle for Southern Ukraine to go well into 2024 but it will only be possible if the West continues to support Ukraine and there are real concerns about this. This is about the time where the West has classically given up in these types of wars. They always drop the ball at the exact worst time.
The entire south, maybe, but artillery in Robotyne cutting off logistics would starve everything west since the only supply route would be from Chrimea, and I don't think anyone thinks that supplying an entire front from a bomb-magnet of a bridge is a sound idea.
The Russians have shown that they are willing to eat shit to hang on to every millimeter of land until they get destroyed and are forced to run away, like rats. Just like northern/western side of Kherson and Kharkiv and Snake Island.
They are going to continue to supply all of those troops in the south throughout the winter as best they can even if it's done poorly in the most painstaking way.
>The Russians have shown that they are willing to eat shit to hang on to every millimeter of land until they get destroyed and are forced to run away
One summary I read was that there's basically two motives behind this spate of costly Russian counterattacks when a savvier move would be to withdraw and offer defense from behind prepared fortifications:
First, the officers closer to the front want to be able to report the good news that "we're attacking them" or "we advanced a little" up the chain, so they double down on bad bets and attrit a disproportionate amount of their own combat effectiveness.
Second, the higher-ups and the Kremlin are absolutely desperate to push the narrative of "Ukraine isn't beating Russia quickly enough, look how little the AFU has advanced! Guess the counteroffensive is now over and the West should immediately cut support, right?" They fight tooth and nail for every millimeter not out of principle but to sell that propaganda narrative, because they know that if Western support is reduced they can eke out some sort of a "win" in negotiations, but if it's increased they're fucked long-term.
So in both cases their strategy gets focused less on cutting their losses in exchange for battlefield effectiveness, and more towards feeding even more mobiks to the cube in the hopes of hitting a lower-probability lucky result. It's like a guy with serious gambling debts wrecking his finances even further rather than admit he's in trouble, hoping that the next batch of 50-to-1 bets will pay off enough to break even.
Fuck conditional surrender, they lie about anything anyways, why negotiate at all
>Fuck conditional surrender, they lie about anything anyways, why negotiate at all
This. The only way out if every single last zigger killed. It's the way it has to be and they choose it so let them have it. Total commitment NATO nuclear strike against their cities, nuclear arsenal and trial and military and strategic sites with everything that kills.
Total Zigger Death.
Muscovia Delenda Est.
>Muscovia Delenda Est.
A very moderate stance. Burn them all alive with no warning or threat just do it. Let's go.
I'm thinking something a little more... intense. Some of them might survive the glassing. Better prepare some guys to clean up.
Ooo so scary lmao you can't even secure your border, mutt
Burn motherfucker. You're going to be fried alive like a human candle.
Two more weeks
Do it and it's two more minutes for you. Come on do it you fucking cowards all talk and no walk, ladies and gentlemen, the cowardly Russian scum. Give me the button to nuke m Moscow and I'll fucking headbutt it and start this shit
Lmao internet tough guy in shill
You're going to fucking die for Putin. Good.
Thank you for posting on a weapons board, ma'am
Hopefully you find the right calibre to renovate your walls with your brains
You are being replaced by churkas as we speak lmao
>Every serious analyst
There's your problem, I was shitposting about how Robotyne seems like that one hill in the middle of a 40k board that you need to occupy for three turns to win, or the strategic location that gives you extra supply in CoH2
depends on how many supplies the Russians between Tokmak and Donetsk have stockpiled
With Tokmak under ukie fire control consumption will now be exceeding available throughput by an operationally significant degree
>Isn't Robotyne a tiny village? Why are they so upset about losing it?
It's behind the first (and best-defended) of three trench lines after all those miles of pre-sighted artillery and minefields, so it means the AFU is way closer to breaching the Surovikin Line than the Russians ever intended them to be.
There's also the "Schrödinger's Vatnik" paradox, where Robotyne is, simultaneously, both a village of 260 population pre-war so tiny and insignificant it proves the Ukrainian counteroffensive has failed and the UN should force a peace settlement where Russia gets everything it ever wanted forever, but also important enough for a Duma representative to threaten to noooooooook.
>Imagine losing so badly that they need to nuke a village in order for their front to not collapse.
Yeah. Picrel from yesterday sums it up nicely.
Also by taking Robotyne Ukrainians have a noticeable success to demoralize ziggers and give western journos positive energy (notice the uptick of "the counteroffensive might still surprise us" articles from the vermin). That's unironically as important a reason for the stupid counterattacks and involving fresh VEH's from Kreminna as the breaching of best line is.
Imagine losing so badly that they need to nuke a village in order for their front to not collapse.
>We don’t need cascade falls
vatniks really went from calling robotnik "irrelevant" to "nuclear worthy target" in mere days of it being captured
No they aren't. They've threatened nooks for fucking months over line after line and nothing has turned up. Just more shells and more nook threats.
No, no, wait until the final "elite" VDV unit that was brought from Kupiansk arrives!
This way we might get rid of the baby-blue pijama gays for good.
They do realise if they use a nuke, ukraine get a support that will dwarf whatever was given so far? And that all kind of retards all around the world will come to kick the asses of the vatniks? Its gonna be like a holy crusade against them, to remove the threat of the retard with nukes.
With all that said, nuke themm russians. It will benefit everyone but you <3
God, I want this so bad. Shame nothing ever happens.
>Shame nothing ever happens.
That was the line about Russia invading Ukraine remember?
I've been hoping for a full on nuclear conflict since the start but alas it won't happen
>I've been hoping for a full on nuclear conflict since the start but alas it won't happen
If Russia uses a nuke NATO will hit Russia with everything. It won't be a conflict so much as a wipeout though. It has not been a game of MAD or equals for decades
Yes. I've been hoping for that.
You won't do shit
Yes we know Russia won't do shit
There has to be a limit on Russian stupidity, right?
>Let's just casually give every other world power a reason to delete the entire Russian land mass, just to delete a village
>deputy proposes
literally nothingburger
This war will end in nukes eventually
Russians are way too stubborn
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS!!!
you got to wonder if he believes what he says, or if he's only reading from a script like Tucker
Qrd on the Poseidon? Is that thing another cope wunderwaffe that doesn’t work? Are they saving it for when the gloves are off, the eyebrows risen and the ass in the ass? Is it even real?
to my knowledge it is complete bullshit, a natural tsunami has many times more energy than a nuclear bomb does, even a big one.
It's another cope wunderwaffe that doesn’t work.
The physics doesn't even remotely make sense.
To create a tsunami of the scale they claim Poseidon is capable of, it would need a multi-gigaton warhead.
The actual effects of this weapon would be pathetic compared to what they claim it can do.
And they won't have the balls to ever use this retarded weapon anyway since it would constitute a nuclear first-strike and the target nation would be fully justified in responding with ICBMs.
Originally it was a soviet prototype of strategic nuclear torpedo from the times before ICBM. Afaik they even tested it in miniature at some lake and found out that physics behind this are completely bullocks and it's not worth developing hypercomplex autonomous uboat sized torpedo over it.
Yet someone dug up the archives and sold it to monke as an incredible wunderwaffen that NATO would shit its pants over, being a complete retard he gladly jumped on a scam-train and now russian propaganda is forced to make fake CGI about muh scawy nook to pretend like it wasn't a dumbest idea ever
Imagine if they really used this?
>British person on the coast: Woah look at that explosion out there!
>British person on the coast: wow it even made the water rise a little bit. Man my feet got wet! How neat. Anyways.
Proper translation for the bongs in the thread
>geezer 1: Oi check out that massive fuck-off bomb!
>geezer 2: made the fookin water rise! Bollocks, me feet got wet. Go on then.
Just imagine how many yachts you can embezzle with such a project.
Knowing how a tiny bit of snow can effectively put the whole country into a standstill, something like this is a tit concerning, don't you think.
>something like this is a tit concerning, don't you think
no, not really
To create a tsunami you need something on the level of an earthquake and a nuclear bomb releases extremely little energy compared to an earthquake.
>no guys we are totally not a cartoonishly evil comic book villain what gave you that idea
when's the last time the US bragged about being able to annihilate the planet if it ever gets bored
?t=31
all i really remember is when john mccain sung barbara ann as "bomb iran" but that was like military humor and we always talked about just glassing the entire middle east, although probably more facetious than anything else
Do it russia I beg
Try it on California pussy you won't, no balls.
too bad this is fake and gay vatmoron propanganda, would be one hell of a redemption arc
IM GONNNNNAAA NOOOOOOOK
Guys, I am from Russia and this guy is a known retard even among his Duma peers.
Isn't the Duma literally a political circus with no power?
They just exist to spout ridiculous reactionary shit.
its daycare for the adult sons of oligarchs.
The purpose of NOOOOOK threats specifically doesn't actually have anything to do with considerations of using nuclear weapons. They throw these out so that the same retard boomers who thought Nordstream-2 was a good idea will think "OH GEEZ RUSSIA ISN'T PLAYING AROUND WE BETTER GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT"
The more things change, the more they stay the same
>Isn't the Duma literally a political circus with no power?
no, they have enough power to play their part. Codename "Rabid printer". they produce a shitton of shitty laws, Putin only has to rubberstamp.
The laws are wring by the Presidential Administrations though.
>robotnik holding
yet
>no geolocated vatniks fighting in it
>no geolocated vatniks fighting in close proximity around it
>fighting has been geolocated to the south of it near Novoprokopivka
>also about 4km west of Verbove, to the south as well
Moreover, that whole "let's conduct a retarded counter-attack over every lost inch until our brigade(s) die" doesn't constitute "holding".
Uhhh zisters but i thought this was just an unimportant village with less than 50 population? Why?
Robotnik really was the key to everything, huh?
What are the chances that Priggy's spirit will possess Shoigu or Gerasimov and tackle the other one out of a window?
mon général
the nooks are on the way
I was fully expecting the pan upwards to reveal someone pulling it up from the roof with a string.
It's being pulled, but we can't see the string. Look at how it's swaying. There are probably other clues, too
The average Russian nuclear arsenal circa 2023.
God I hope so
Just take a slice you... you DOUBLE moron
SnooPINGAS usual, I see!?
MUH NOOOOOKS...this is the millionth time we've heard that already, right?
Russia could always take the nukes off their ICBM warheads, pack them full of TNT and rusty nails, and blast any point in Ukraine with impunity no?
I think they did that already
This would arguably be much safer for Russia, because when their shoddily maintained ICBM explodes in its Russian silo in Russia, there'll be a little extra garbage but no danger of fallout.
nobody uses conventional ICBMs because it is impossible to differentiate an ICBM launch based on what kind of warhead it has, so an enemy nuclear power would see a fired ICBM as an imminent nuclear attack.
Ukraine has no retaliation capability anyways and russia could always just say beforehand that the icbms they use in ukraine will be denukeified
Because Russian intent can be taken at face value of their words.
>launch ICBM
>NORAD detects the launch and immediately assumes it’s a First Strike because there is literally no other reason to launch one
>NATO immediately responds with a massive retaliatory nuclear attack on an unsuspecting Russia
That idea is so stupid they should make you the general of the MoD for it.
Didn't they fire cruise missiles with dummy nuclear warheads early in the war?
I think they used them in their "alternate mode" which means swapping the nuke for conventional explosives. Given the weight and size of the intended nuke that's still a lot of boom.
Some models of rocket/cruise missile had this option planned from the get go, others were more of less jury rigged, iirc.
But I might be wrong about that.
Can they replace their ICBMs if they use them up? Even if they don't aggro the rest of the world, spending all their working ICBMs means they no longer have the means to seriously threaten their rivals.
this would only make ukrainians angrier GRRRRRRRRRRR
Can you tell me what the hell the Republicans are doing in Robotino
>mostly europeans are heard
do russians not even consider themself european anymore????
Only in the parts they want. Russia is simultaneously a true member of Europe and heir to Rome, and also separate from the gay globohomo Europe that's about to be swallowed by muslims and Black folks. Reality is irrelevant.
>heir to Rome
W-what?
Tsar is spun off from Caesar, same way German Emperor was called Kaiser. There's a lot of Roman influence in European history, and many claim that they inherited the Roman emperor, even though there was an actual inheritor state to the east, and the Italian states that replaced Rome are also proper inheritors.
they are big on larping as rome like every historical european power, in their case they like to larp more as eastern rome/Constantinople, that's why they called them tsars.
Russian prince married a Byzantine princess, then Constantinople fell and since then Moscow's been larping as the 3rd Rome with the whole Tzar thing
even though you know, commies fucking murdered their royal family but such minor details can't possibly compete with Russian mental gymnastics
it's like a wacky EU4 mod that lets you form Hyperborea as a meme, except it's actually a real thing that happened irl
>Russian prince married a Byzantine princess, then Constantinople fell and since then Moscow's been larping as the 3rd Rome
It goes deeper.
First, it's been centuries between that and when the claims were brought up the first time, I'm pretty confident byzantine dynasties had changed few times over this time already.
Second, muscovy clan were a pretty fucking distant offshoots of the Rurikovichs while main line still existed in Kyiv and was absorbed into Lithuania shortly after mongols invasion, so if anything, Commonwealth was more in right to claim the Third Rome or whatever.
And third one, Ivan the chud fucking died leaving no successors, Romanovs have absolutely fucking nothing to do with Rurikovichs and didn't had a legitimate claim even over the muscovy, let alone some extended claims of completely different dynasty. They basically broke the last tiny threads that still tied them to the old Ruthenia at this point and re-emerged as a completely separate entity.
There's also a religious claim, that with Constantinople's fall the leadership of the Orthodox church fell to Muscovy. The whole Third Rome thing came from a letter a monk wrote to the Grand Prince in the early 16th Century. I don't lend this claim much credence, especially with how the Russian Church has twisted into worshiping the idea of Russia itself rather than God or Jesus, but it does exist.
>also a religious claim
Russian religious claims are even more hilarious. They aren't even a legal church. Back at the time they kidnapped Constantinople Patriarch to force him to recognize their independence and claim over Kyiv Metropoly, which he refused to do anyway, so they completely forged the things and were excommunicated from Orthodoxy respectively.
Russian Orthodoxy are officially antichrists circa XV century.
what?
I thought that had happened only a few years ago as a temper tantrum for Ukraine getting a tomos
Jack, you're telling me the Russian Orthodox Church went like this
>I'm excommunicated? I'M EXCOMMUNICATED
>Well, *I* excommunicate MYSELF from you
Their claim is bogus since they overthrew and murdered the Tsar. The last vestiges of the legal government fled and remained in Finland, thus Finland is the only legal heir to Rome.
Russians claim to be the inheritors of Rome through the Byzantines since some Emperor married a Russian. Which is about as legit a claim as every other European empire that has tried to LARP as the successors of Rome, that is to say, complete bullshit.
A remarkably large portion of European history can be summed up as various countries LARPing as Rome. It's kind of hard to overstate the influence Rome has had on western history, even though it fell almost 2000 years ago. Shit even America does it, why do you think it's called the Pax Americana?
technically "Rome" fell in 1453, "Byzantines" is a made up term by western historians to claim direct continuity from the version of Rome from antiquity
I wonder if there will be USA larpers thousands of years from now
The romans started out LARPing as greeks, so it's not impossible.
not really.
They stole the culture from the Greeks, but Aeneas was a Trojan.
Its called hegelian dialectics, dad!! Gosh!!!!
Last time I checked, Russians are asiatic mongoloid vodka morons. They trash neighborhoods rape white women, then run around saying “we dindu nothing”
No, they're neither European nor Asian according to themselves.
No the moment they realized the West won't back down they've gone full on we wuz thirdies 'n sheet fight da western colonialism.
>what the hell the Republicans are doing in Robotino
The usual, telling Ukrainians to surrender.
Clearing the path for The Presbyterian Church
>tfw hopeless situation warrior
>causing the first nuclear war since 1945
>a limited nuclear war
>no devastating first strike, no decapitation, no MAD
>no concern about NATO retaliation
>decisively prove to the entire world that modern Russia is a rabid dog with WMDs
>flush the post-Cold War nuclear peace down the shitter and turn it into open invitation for global nuke proliferation if there's no retaliation
>all for a middle-of-nowhere village of 480 people total pre-war
I don't know about the state of Russian nukes, but my erection has already gone hypercritical.
>no concern about NATO retaliation
NATO will retaliate to any unilateral use of nuclear weapons. The precedent is intolerable and an existential threat to western countries.
I meant that in that situation Russia wasn't concerned about potential NATO retaliation, regardless of its actual possibility.
I hope we launch a shit load of tomahawks, like 1,000 at Sevastopol.
unironically a good idea, all civilians have long left the area, its unlikely the USA or any other country will launch their own nukes in retaliation.
China is very much against it, it's clear in all of their public and internal stances. Russia would be risking getting kicked out of the UN Security Council and permanently debasing itself for the rest of this century if not forever.
And god help them if the fallout were to actually hurt Europeans because they would unironically lose their shit. All of that just to destroy a few Ukrainian soldiers in some shit hole town.
obviously a very bad outcome for russia, but its still not as bad as what's going to happen once ukranians reach the azov sea. there's going to be a massive rout towards crimea and a total collapse. and then there would be unrest in russia itself. maybe even dissolution of the state into warring factions. at this point russia is fighting for its own survival. finding a way to use nukes without getting nuked in return is definitely in their interest, even if it causes other problems
There's no way Russia can get away with nuking without actually putting the country in existential jeopardy instead of simply pretending the country will collapse if they loose Crimea like they currently are.
The US has basicly told monke that a nuclear strike in Ukraine would mean a conventional intervention from the US and nato to destroy the Russian army in Ukraine and destroy the black sea fleet.
There was a bunch about this earlier in the year when Russia was threatening nooks more than normal.
Basicly a Russian nuclear strike in Ukraine guarantees a Russian loss in Ukraine.
>The US has basicly told monke that a nuclear strike in Ukraine would mean a conventional intervention from the US and nato to destroy the Russian army in Ukrain
Russia cannot admit that it's losing to Ukraine.
if it becomes clear that Russia will lose, monke might deliberately drag the US into the war to wipe out Russia just so Putin can say he lost to the US instead of Ukraine.
Actually Xi told Putin that he would be personally targeted with the first nuke in retaliation. The west said nothing to him at all. The wests response is known and has always been the same, if Russia or previously the USSR uses a nuke it goes all in with EVERYTHING nuclear and conventional. Russia would simply cease to exist within 24 hours. The rest of the world and the west would be fine but the constant threat would be gone and so would Russia.
Dunno what you're talking about mate, I've been calling for zigger genocide ever since Bucha. Try to make a new meme next time rather than taking one that makes you super mad and lazily flipping the targets
>Bucha
Imagine being this gullible
Bucha, the Izium mass graves, the mass rapes of Ukrainian women, the castration of Ukrainian POWs, the mass abduction of Ukrainian children are but a few of the horrors for which Russia must answer.
Total Zigger Death. Muscovia Delenda Est.
why not drop a few FAB 9000 instead
is Russia weak or something ?
That would mean a plane getting close enough to drop the FAB without meeting whichever article-5 compliant piece of anti-air is closest.
the duma can't do anything
Duma does not have the authority to do this, only Putin and the army. They don't take orders from the Duma anyways, since it's just a puppet of Putin. Instead, this is for internal consumption and to get brownie points for Putin by showing yourself as the most fanatical.
So they are getting ready to blow the power plant?
Everything will be fine with Surovikin's counterattack on Robotdyne.
Fug can't someone paper airplane drone Kadyrov? Out of all the jokers I hate him the most. Prig is at least an entertaining chap RIP the madman. He was basically doing what any PrepHoleanon would be up to if given a blank cheque to create a world wide mercenary army.
>Fug can't someone paper airplane drone Kadyrov?
He really does need the treatment doesn't he.
The only thing about it is that Russia is less stable with more power centres.
M...mein Monke, Suro...Surovikin is in the gulag, like you told us to.
That was a prikaz! Ataka Surovikin was a prikaz!
I think they canned the third from the left guy. Can’t remember his name. Peskov.
For real, though.
Pretty sure NATO already told them if they pulled this shit there wouldn't be any Russian military left in Ukraine. Considering how much of the Russian military is currently in Ukraine this would essentially be the destruction of the Russian military.
European and American officials say there will be dire consequences. Then NATO said if there was nuclear fallout in NATO countries it would constitute an attack. Then former American military officials say that any nuclear attack in Ukraine would be met with overwhelming conventional response to force Russia out of Ukraine.
No official spokesperson for NATO or USA has said exactly what is going ot happen, but a massive conventional response is the most likely. It is why they won't do jack shit and will just talk big about using nuclear weapons.
>exactly what is going ot happen
>delete black see fleet
>delete western strategic air bases - kursk, saratov
>delete all T-34 in Ukraine
>Wooden tomahawk on red square and Yamantau
>Do not elaborate
>never leaves
never leaves
> Wooden tomahawk on red square and Yamantau
Nice
And with only conventional weapons and no need to hit Russia at home, Russia won’t jump straight to MAD unlike what some retards say.
Literally anything a Duma representative says is just propaganda. Those people are all friends and/or bought and paid for by Putin and his inner circle. In fact they often mouth hyper belligerent BS but everyone knows it’s just talk.
Some people reached out to Russian opposition parties on twitter and elsehwere, telling them that this is such a golden opportunity to criticize Putin. They responded with all the same RUSSIA STRONG UKRONAZIS GONNA DIE shit.
See, you can still support Russia and even the invasion, but just say that it's so botched that the war is a hopeless slaughter. You can hang the failures on Putin and call for real systematic change. All while never saying Russia is bad or anything, you can do it purely from a nationalist standpoint. The war is badly managed, hopeless, and shown the intense corruption and weakness of Rusisa.
But even the "opposition" is there to support the government. Any serious opposition got murdered.
Just like how they nuked Bakhmut?
But I was told Roboteen was firmly in Russian hands? Why would they nuke themselves?
To create the hard times that make strong men, obvs
>To create the hard times that make strong men, obvs
If that were true, mobiks would be the strongest men instead of broken slaves.
They’re going to get done dirty like best girl becca got done dirty: crushed by ass from the sky, but then everyone will be knowing
>They’re going to get done dirty like best girl becca got done dirty: crushed by ass from the sky, but then everyone will be knowing
Yeah, that scene in Cyberpunk where Dr. Robotnik smothers the entire cast to death with his ass was the most kino that Trigger has ever been.
There's a video of Ukrainians humiliating Russian prisoners live on youtube right now
Link?
Called them "suka pidorossi" multiple times
what the actual fuck am i watching
I'm not sure either but it seems to have looped.
Possibly some kind of psyop, I don't know.
Why are all their knees puss filled holes? What the hell is going on?
I don't know what it says, but these wounds are fake.
This moron just poured an entire bottle of vodka into a drinking glass and drank half of it.
I clicked that and I was greeted by picrel. wtf is actually happening on this stream?
Gib link.
>nuke robotnik
>sets off all the mines in a 80 mile radius.
>Ukraine steamrolls towards melitopol
>nuke robotnik
>get french to "warning shot" nuke kerch bridge with ASMP
>maybe have impromptu fleet by send rest of black fleet to moskva if feeling really Hispanicy
*fleet week by sending
NAFO when Ukraine hits another bridge that gets repaired in 16 hours
>hahaha take that Russia, you sowed the wind and reap the whirlwind
NAFO when Putin gets ready to launch a nuke
>nooooo you can't do that it's just a small village pwease don't
PrepHole is more...Do it. Please. To watch Russia cease to exist. So do it. TZD and a moderate postion.
The west won't do shit.
Just like you won't do shit when the 2nd amendment is scrapped.
The west will kill every single living human in Russia and sleep like a child. So do it.
>The west will kill every single living human in Russia and sleep like a child. So do it.
Lmao, in what world do you live in? The last time the west was ruthless was when you were majority white. Like 80 years ago lmao
>The last time the west was ruthless was when you were majority white.
Shut up turdie
Oh, I'm sorry. You were brown by the time the that happened, I forgot about that onE!
The only thing between the West and the genocide of all turdie subhumans is our benevolent humanitarian ROEs. When those are not enforced you cry like morones about muh warcrimes.
I guess you've never heard of Vietnam
you better hope we don't decide to defoliate the tundra. Napalm and Rainbow Agents, shipped express.
>>The last time the west was ruthless
Yeah?
The west killed a million arabs because one of them knocked down a skyscraper for his pedo prophet. Russia for threatening to nuke them? Russians better hope they die in the first wave. The west won't be so kind and gentle and loving with any that survive.
Good to go. Do it. Let's dance.
Oh good, I was wondering when one of you was going to turn up. This thread was having too much fun.
>Lmao, in what world do you live in? The last time the west was ruthless was when you were majority white. Like 80 years ago lmao
I'd happily cut your throat. Don't doubt it.
>The west won't do shit.
The West has ALREADY determined that Russia needs to conclusively lose this one. Russia broke its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum, wiped their ass on the Helsinki Accords, and publicly trashed any credibility on the world stage with their blatant lies (picrel) before launching a sneak attack to try and annex a sovereign state. If Putin accomplishes anything at all that he can spin as a "win" it only emboldens other rogue states and bad actors, and if it looks like that might happen the West will nudge the ball onto the fairway however they need to. They'll fake a Gulf of Tonkin Incident or something if it comes to that.
The only reason that the West hasn't been more blatant about it is that (so far) they haven't needed to. Intelligence-sharing plus financial and military aid to Ukraine plays a lot better than a direct smackdown from every conventional deterrent NATO has to offer, both to domestic and foreign audiences. Moving from irresponsible threats to actually discharging a nuke is literally the one event that would change all those opinions in favor of direct, immediate, fully-committed involvement. Even China would probably throw down against Russia -- letting NATO do everything would lose Xi so much face internationally that every nation the PRC fishing fleet has bullied would start a staredown.
Serious question. Why do thirdies, brown subhumans and autocrats have a hard time figuring out Westen democracies? Why do they see contracts, principle of pacta sunt servanda, honest dealings and conciliatory attitude as weakness? Why do these shitholes that ironically are propped up by the global order of trade and contracts that the West has built constantly try to fuck with the pillars and committed protectors of that very same order?
Because they're retarded, anon.
Turdies and autocrats don't understand the West for the same reason why the West consistently underestimates the willingness of turdies and autocrats to start shit; both assume the other thinks the same way they do. The West just wants stability and money, so they make lucrative trade deals and infrastructure projects with countries like Russia and China because they think Russia and China want that too; Russia and China want to conquer everything, and so they assume the West does as well, which is why they always describe NATO as a conquering empire like Nazi Germany.
>Russia and China want to conquer everything, and so they assume the West does as well, which is why they always describe NATO as a conquering empire like Nazi Germany.
Kinda explains why there's always a smell of projection in their anti-West propaganda. Thanks anon.
acknowledging that we are the real deal means acknowledging that they could be doing better and aren't
no one likes admitting that they are a failure
>Why do they see contracts, principle of pacta sunt servanda, honest dealings and conciliatory attitude as weakness?
We know the answer because this exists in the west also.
There are always people who fancy themselves predators and who consider themselves strong because they have the will to break the rules, while the rest of society thinks this just makes them short-sighted, irrational and sociopathic...and medically speaking, we tend to be right because such types usually turn out to be mildly brain-damaged if you get a chance to study them.
It's a very similar phenomenon scaled up to the geopolitical scale, complete with the same kinds of magical thinking that demands everyone else just let them win.
It's the only thing that they know will work. Particularly egregious examples are the ones who used to have a large empire in the past like russians, chinks, arabs etc. They like to look back on their le good old times with rose tinted glasses as if their heckin based an trad strongmen leaders are the only driving factor for that """"prosperity""""
I don't know, why do westerners struggle to understand all of that themselves?
It's funny how turdies do not get that the West is being lazy and cheap, but still commited to make Ukraine win.
If we really wanted to do anything ourselves, Russia would have been BTFO long ago with even only the EU deploying their armies.
>being lazy and cheap
it probably would have been cheaper to go all in
>commited to make Ukraine win
No, not really. They're committed for Ukraine not to lose, but that's it.
>Russia would have been BTFO long ago with even only the EU deploying their armies.
At this point, Greece could 1v1 Russia.
China gets involved specifically so they have a role in partitioning.
>kill every single living human in Russia
...the few tourists retarded enough to still go there?
>The west won't do shit.
NATO has been preparing for this inevitability for years and a nuclear escalation obviously cannot be tolerated or ignored.
If a tactical nuclear weapon get deployed, a NATO response will be an absolute geopolitical certainty.
NATO would likely start bombing Russia in Ukraine or wipe out Russia's black sea fleet.
We might also see a naval blockade of Russia.
>If a tactical nuclear weapon get deployed, a NATO response will be an absolute geopolitical certainty.
>NATO would likely start bombing Russia in Ukraine or wipe out Russia's black sea fleet.
>We might also see a naval blockade of Russia.
Wrong you fucking retard.
There is only one response to unprovoked use of nuclear weapons and that is a NUCLEAR First Strike.
Escalation is utterly irrelevant by that point, the only thing that matters is depriving Russia of its ability to use its nuclear arsenal PERMANENTLY. And that can only be achieved by massive preemptive use of nuclear weapons by NATO. Millions would die from the Russian missiles that do manage to get out of their silos anyway yes, but it would be drastically fewer deaths than would result from NATO launching a purely conventional response and then Russia launching a First Strike on NATO in a moment of panic. It’s going to be what makes the difference between 10 million dead Americans and 100 million dead Americans.
>mfw the air campaign obliterates all targets in less time than the desert storm strikes
Boris Yeltsin you drunken fuck this is all your fault. How did you manage to fuck up that bady?
USA are not literally the third Rome, but they are figuratively the Third Rome. Their politics, status, and architecture give them that right.
While true the US did also deliberately model itself off of Rome from the start, long before its ascension to global hegemon and symbol of western civilization was anything more than a crazy pipe dream. The founding fathers were larping as Rome at least as hard as England or the HRE did.
>Yeltsin would probably be looking down laughing at Putin.
>if Putin nooks village
>then no more Putin
>Sergei you are of genius!
Wow I knew the Bloomberg demoralizers and Russian shills were one and the same but you didn’t have to put it all out in the open holy fuck
>you won’t do shit
>Bruen is meaningless
>SCOTUS doesn’t take gun cases
>Russia is winning
>I knew the Bloomberg demoralizers and Russian shills were one and the same but you didn’t have to put it all out in the open
You are now aware of how many gun control threads are basically asking the least stable PrepHole posters to assassinate government officials, start civil conflicts and destabilise the US.
And you've already worked out the reasons why.
Don’t you mean 16 fortnights?
TZD Even the remaining Russians who can think agree. So it begins. The purification.
TZD
Reminder that when shills ravenously call for genocidal of russians there was most likely a pretty bad Ukrainian loss.
genocide*
>inb4 ESL
Keep thinking the people who want you dead are just Ukrainian or American. You keep whispering that to yourself. You and your family are going to die. Burnt and irradiated. The worst part? You deserve it. The world will celebrate.
No, the Ukies can afford better shills than the Russians can, which is why they come up with their own shit instead of repeating what their opponents are saying but swapping words around.
Did you see them trying to make a Cat thread about how Ukraine would never take Robotyne yesterday?
Absolutely pathetic.
Do not redeem the needful, shitskin.
How valuable is this place if they are screaming noooks?
I don't know man just yesterday they were saying it's a worthless 480 people village. Today they're asking for nukes.
>How valuable is this place if they are screaming noooks?
End game. Its too late the much of the Russia forces have broken and are fleeing. Thus nukes. NATO should hit them now with everything. End it. Enough of their fucking threats.
It has more to do with the fact that Russia absolutely cannot allow Ukraine to reach Tokmak or let the defensive line collapse.
If that were to happen the result would be the loss of half the occupied areas in Ukraine and we would basically end up with the borders before the war started...
It would also create a genuine possibility of Ukraine retaking Crimea and completely ousting Russia from the country.
To expand upon what others have said, taking Robotyne brings the Ukrainians considerably closer to placing all of Russia's logistical routes that provide for all of their forces west of Melitopol in tube artillery range. If that happens then Russia's position in the Kherson oblast becomes completely untenable and the soldiers there will be forced to withdraw or die. The result of this would be Russia losing the landbridge to Crimea (bascially Russia's minimum objective for this war) and putting Crimea under siege. Needless to say, this is A Bad Look for Russia. I don't doubt that Monke would trade Luganda and Dombabwe for Crimea in a heartbeat.
What happens after that depends entirely on how spent the Ukrainians are after retaking Kherson oblast.
The point is that for all the "hurr durr Ukraine has barely captured anything" means that the Russians in Zap are on a god damn timer after this. They are going ot have to lose and withdraw in the longterm which means that the counter-offensive would be a massive success. Seeing Ukraine flag flying in Meriopol would be the most mind blowing shit ever.
Every duma representative, oligarchs, small businessman or governor from shithole in Asia who steal money, has kids and family in west. Sure, they gonna nook. Only poor vatnigers belive in we will kill you all if we want.
Tactical nuke implies using nukes in Ukraine against the AfU (and probably civilians and infrastrucutre because why the hell not).
Found out why ukie shills are in "le scary psycho" mode calling for genocide.
Robotyne hasn't been taken despite shills saying for over a week that it was! LMAO
Do it.
I am invoking No Balls. If Russia breaks the pact of No Balls, they shall be declared gays until the end of time.
No balls.
You wont do it.
You are cowards.
Send troops to Ukraine then if you are convinced Russia has no balls
I've been advocating this since day one but our pussy-arse politicians are too scared so we"re sitting it out
why? ukies alone are enough to win.
You don't think that war is suppossed to be a "fair fight" or childish shit like that, right?
We reserve ourselves as a contingency.
If I were in a position of power within the US armed forces I would petition a Desert Storm-like coalition to kick these fucking vodka morons out of Ukraine. They wont do shit. They dont have the capacity to do shit. I would bet money that most of their nukes are either disassembled or otherwise non-functional. And even if they did do shit I would fucking turn every city they have with more than 50,000 population into radioactive craters for the next 300 years. And it would all be worth it to finally rid the world of these snow morons once and for all.
Full front war would possibly end in...
ICBMs
and be very lethal to both sides + to millions of civvies
Not worth the cost of helping Russia lose a war they don't seem to be winning.
Why the hell are there 30 different ways to spell Robotyne
1. It's a tiny village that's not in latin script. Before this there was no consensus on how to translate it best since there was no need. Do you think that some small town in spain has a singular way to spell it in cyrrilic script?
2. It's a strange name to westerners, so people simply get it wrong.
>Not knowing how to translate vodkarunes into Roboutiny
NGMI. Shitposting aside, I think it might have something to do with the differences between Russian and Ukrainian, sorta like the Kiev/Kyiv thing.
There's a big shit fight on Wikipedia's Robotyne talk page, someone removed the alternate Russian name and people are calling those who want it back rashists and getting 3 day b&s, it's hilarious.
>Why the hell are there 30 different ways to spell Robotyne
It's just the difference between Robotyne/Poбoтинe (Ukrainian) and Robotino/poбoтин (Russian) but the Russian version isn't very official so it gets transliterated a few different ways by different English-writing journalists.
Just do it. Nuclear war wouldn't be that bad anyway.
They wouldn't target the top 20 cities alot of the nukes would land in rural areas that are vital to military industry
Daily reminder that he is a retard.
So Putin is now threatening to nuke a backwater country Hamlet.
Can we get a mirror posting. With prigs death, this, the now reported and bring researched cannibalism going on in the Russian rat nest.
How are the Russians and their fans so insane. They ran out of food, so they ate leather and rats, they ran out of rats and are now eating each other, grass, leaves and their own shit. Yes you can eat your own shit to try to get nutrients out of it
the Russians are boiling their own shit and eating it out of desperation on top of the rat eating and corpse cooking Whatt the fuck man.
>cannibalism
qrd?
Cannibalism is when one person eats another usually while they are dead.
Can I buy human meat in Russia? I’ve always wanted to try it.
Yeah it comes in bags.ths cube was funny at first then the machine, corpses and bags were found by drones. The Russians had a vatnik corpse get stuck in the wood chipper. When it was viidroed.you can see them trying to pull parts of the body out thathammed it up
If only I had a time machine so I could go back and tell that Russian child he would grow up to be cannon fodder. And his most notable achievement was his corpse clogging up a wood chipper in Ukraine that would then be filmed and shared online. So a bunch of autists on a basket weaving forum could laugh about it.
Give me a minute. Here you go. I kept the filename name it should go back to the og thread weeks ago with the sources.
I'm still looking for the webdm of it where they are pulling on something and at the very end you see them pull a forearm and hand out
There it is. Thanks Anon.
wait, the mobikube was real all along?
>wait, the mobikube was real all along?
Literally not true, but what they actually do isn't too far off. they leave them to rot in trenches, or they haul them off to crematoriums to process then declare them "missing".
My guess is
Disposal is taking the meat bags and feeding them to the troops near by in food. It's been ground up so much you wouldn't know and meat is expensive.
Remember Putin just killed priggy and no one cared. A normal vatnik is worth nothing but 60 kgs of meet is worth alot
No, the mobik cube is a joke you goof. It's literally just some animal organ meat. Why would they cube any of this shit when they have mobile crematoriums?
>Moreover, even if it wasn’t, what do you a megalomaniac like Putin is going to do once he realizes that the jig is up and he’s going to die in a basement like the Romanovs?
Any such scenario isn't going to be because of USA though. They would follow the Persian Gulf war doctine, and they wouldn't invade Russia. In fact they would say they respect Russia's internationally recognized borders. But they'd harshly sanction and isolate Russia, having Ukraine and other countries like Nigeria to fill the void.
So they could take a couple billion in food and body disposal money and just do this because no one cares.
I'm assuming this
Is what you are saying doesn't exist.
Don't try with them man. I gave them everything except the direct pedophilia links chug hàs openly hidden. They don't want to look or they want to look at child porn and can't figure it out.
>direct pedophilia links chug hàs openly hidden
W-What?
He's fucking lying, retard.
Nah, spamming CP on 4chan is just a thing they do when something greatly upsets them. One of the many reasons why grogtards fucking hate them is that they used to come onto other boards and spam it there are as well for teh lulz.
The newer generation spams e-boi now for the same reason, but it's less likely to get them sent to jail because the retards forget that their not as untraceable as they think they are.
>Why would they cube any of this shit when they have mobile crematoriums?
Because those are running at capacity and still can't keep up with the deliveries.
There have been multiple reports of Russian soldiers being burnt in open pits because of this.
Complete or near complete cremation takes a lot of time, burning the body directly not so much and isn't limited in capacity of the oven.
>It's been ground up so much you wouldn't know and meat is expensive
You've never butchered a carcass in your life and know nothing of how to prepare meat.
I doubt you've even ground meat for that matter or you'd know why all this is nonsense.
Absolutely. They were grinding up mutilated bodies and bagging them then putting them on pallets for disposal. It's cheaper faster and more efficient. Just tell the family they got blown apart.
It's a wood chipper with meat bags on the back. They have a the modified track feeding the bodies in. There is video of it not just clips. No one seems to care.
>There is video of it not just clips
May we see them?
Or is this like the /chug/ rape porn?
Are you talking about the Pow Videos
>Are you talking about the Pow Videos
Yeah, another thing that doesn't exist
>the box cutter video was faked
Fuck off /chug/
all of the reverse searches are coming up dry, man. tineye came back with a few twitter posts at the top of the year, but nothing with a video. most everything is deleted.
You'd think with Wagner out of Ukraine and Prighozin dead the cannibalism shit would tone down a little but I guess its too early for that.
Wagner's getting rolled into the army
Yeah but there's no way Wagner can keep up their organ harvesting and meat packing business afloat with Prigho dead, Concord will have to become a legitimate business or be shut down by the FSB.
Beware the tungsten balls, might crack a tooth
source or it didnt happen
>Starving Russians are boiling and eating their own shit whilst insisting that everything is fine
You don't drop a bombshell like that on us without some proof Anon.
Cannibalism is common enough in Russia that they dedicate entire areas of penal colonies too them, so that's not too surprising; but I have never heard of people falling so low that they start eating their own shit.
How come the vatniks never say that Russia wouldn't do something this retarded?
Reminds me playing on the N64 with my brother
>don't want to lose in FIFA
>press the power button before the match ends
>technically haven't lost
>muh nook
I wish a bro would.
But seriously, why wouldn't russia just use conventional explosives like a MOAB equivalent?
they're just gonna nuke their own
Can someone please explain the origins of the ”ass in the ass” thing? Shit makes me laugh everytime
>During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, he made it clear that in case of a world war, Russia would bomb London before Warsaw, Paris or Berlin.
Based.
I've asked google to tell me what's on the screen and I'm no wiser than before.