These things are retarded

Even the best of them, which cost $200, are poorly balanced and mechanically complicated. A tonfa or D-battery maglite is twice as good as a weapon.
Mid-tier expandable batons will break if you hit anything hard enough.
Why the frick don't cops carry good batons any more, bros?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What blew up in Russia this time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      can't wait for this gay war to be over so you parasitic homosexuals go back

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They just seem ergonomically incorrect as well. Wouldn’t you want the weight focused on the end the hit them with not the end you hold?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The weight is in the skinny end. The fat end is hollow, the skinny end is weighted.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because muh concealability or some crap. I bet most departments that are issued them were just given some salesman spiel about how nightsticks are somehow obsolete and it makes for better optics to carry a shitty collapsing metal tube

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tonfa

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't like this generation of feeldoe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >feeldoe
        Why are you familiar with any specific brand of dildo that isn't BadDragon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They have a neat cross guard for when you want to LARP as a Jedi too

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how many jedi have cross guards? Isnt there just that one guy from the disney shit?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    try getting in and out of a car quickly with a full size baton on an already loaded duty-belt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      and also while being obese

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >D-batteries in a long wool sock
    the most superior of flogging weapons

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      Anonymous
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  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shit on them all you want Gavin, Benitez said you have to let us have them now.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I took a class on how to use these several years ago, and the cop instructor told us they were only good for striking people on the backs of their thighs. If someone is squared up to fight you, you're supposed to swing the baton downward at a 45 degree angle to smack him right below the ass cheek. This causes the most debilitating pain while still being nonlethal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine believing this nonsense.
      He was pulling your chain, bro.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Leg kicks have finished pro MMA and kickboxers. At the very least they stagger people and prevent them from being able to use their leg effectively, which means they can't run and aren't able to get much snap on punches.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are you fricking comparing a strike from a flimsy 20" ASP baton to a leg kick thrown by a pro fighter?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's metal being thrown from your hips and the average person isn't a pro fighter with legs conditioned to take kicks.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >flimsy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lmaooooo
              hahah, he can knock an essentially unsupported aluminum tube a few times in a paid-promotion Youtube video! Stop the presses!

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    check out peacekeeper rcb

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    but anon that drop shipping advertisement on Twitter shows them bending a metal bat in half with a couple whacks! are you implying advertisers on Twatter are DISHONEST!?!?! HOW DARE YOU!

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Intimidation factor is preddy gud. A beat cop in the 80s would get this.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >poorly balanced and mechanically complicated
    You're the same moronic fat medieval larp neckbeard from a few weeks ago who never held a quality baton in his hands and never had any formal training.
    You are not a martial artist and you have no combat experience only because you go to some fricked up American renaissance fest.

    >Why the frick don't cops carry good batons any more, bros?
    They do, the bonowi EKA for example is fricking perfect and takes a minimum amount of space.
    I carried a tonfa for 3 years before we got the stick as a replacement, almost noone took the tonfa with them because you have to keep putting it in and out of your belt while you get in and out of your patrol car.

    You only use them to keep people at distance, poke into disgusting things and to open windows and smack the occasional moron anyways. Sometimes you also use it to transport morons.
    You could do that with a literal broomstick but a steel bar that you can put on your belt without noticing you have it on you is doing a much better job.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >a quality baton in his hands and never had any formal training
      >formal training
      >for a beat stick

      Ok Mr.LeoSir I bet you can also eyeball exactly how fast car is going from your formal training. How did you do in college?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Baton cert is actually formal training. There are legally-enforced strike zones on the human body and it you hit the wrong one it is an easy excessive force case.

        That, and there's a proper form that makes it way more effective than swinging it like a club.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh college education
        Yeah, I am sure the tibetan tab dancing classes will be very important for the whole of society once the crackhead is in your basement

        There is formal training, actual guidelines and real experience since it is a tool for constraint.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >tip of baton is leveraging off of your sternum
          There has to be more optimized holds than this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there is, like a ganseki otoshi but using the baton instead of your arm

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        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/IEJQayk.jpg

          https://i.imgur.com/8o3k2ks.jpg

          Surely you'd be better off just repeatedly bashing them in the face and head with it than trying to be fancy with holds and restraints?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, if you're trying to kill them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sure thing pal, you should try it on yourself first though just to be sure
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          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            at my place of work we're not allowed to 'bash them in the face', so you learn to use the alternative techniques, because yes, a real baton will absolutely cave someone's face in

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna let you in on a secret the liberals don't want you to know: A cop's job isn't to kill Black folk. Most of the tools they use on people are designed to soften them up so they can be restrained and arrested. Getting a guy in a hold so you can cuff him is good. Splitting open his melon isn't. The gun is supposed to be the only lethal weapon a cop has.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >that ladies running away
              >she had m30 fireworks
              >open fire as she runs away
              yaaa just like having iq limits to be police officers is supposed to lower melon splitting statistics

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure if you want to crack their skull and potentially kill them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >oh whats that, you have on-the-job experience with batons?
        >that means ur a cop and i can disregard anything you say

        making a thread with zero intention of actually accepting answers to your question should result in a permaban

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i wasn't ridiculing any on-the-job experience, but rather Leogay's hilarious attempt about putting on airs about having "formal" training with a beatstick. This shit

          https://i.imgur.com/qYCxt6N.png

          >muh college education
          Yeah, I am sure the tibetan tab dancing classes will be very important for the whole of society once the crackhead is in your basement

          There is formal training, actual guidelines and real experience since it is a tool for constraint.

          is moronic and on the same level as formal classes sold by youtube larperators. Might as well attend some HEMA meets.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have get licensation and formal training for any law enforcement immobilisation techniques because of liability you big dumdum
            If you injure any detainee or even kill them the first thing that will happen is an investigator going to the people that trained you going “did you show him this” and if they say no you get fricked if it wasn’t a case of legitime self-defense

            This is especially true for any weapon you would use

            And “this shit” actually isn’t moronic, it just takes hundreds of repetitions until you’re comfortable using it and it’s a great way of dynamic subduction, I’ve used a similiar lock 4 times on drunk morons during bar fights, it’s basically a headlock with extra steps and you use it when you have your stick in hand (to keep crowds at distance) and can’t put it away quickly while handling an assailant

            Jesus fricking Christ, get a grip
            some cops are ticket queens
            some cops harrass neighbourhoods
            some cops never show up
            some cops police nightlife districts
            some cops are specialized in raiding and arresting violent criminals

            >actually complains about getting training
            anyways, for assisted takedowns I prefer tasers anyway
            like I said, a stick is either to keep distance or to use as a lever during transportation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bonowi EKA
      I've held that shit, and the point of balance on the 26" steel model -- the biggest and best one they make -- is literally in the handle segment. It's all wrong, moron kun.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have a 20 inch one and it's balanced pretty much right at the middle point. Which is actually ideal because it's faster and has more balanced handling. If you put all the weight in the end and make it like a medieval mace, that would be more like the Peacekeeper RCB, which will hit like a truck but be slower and less agile.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      american police officer talking about formal training lol

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Mid-tier expandable batons will break if you hit anything hard enough.
    Exactly, it's to prevent pigs from cracking people's skulls open like in the good old days.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >are poorly balanced and mechanically complicated.
    I'd love to hear you b***h about that after being beat by one
    >Why the frick don't cops carry good batons any more, bros?
    largely optics. If you have a violent unarmed drunk and decide to use a baton on him and a picture of you swinging a baton at a scared unarmed person makes it into the papers, it's gonna be a heap of shit for you, because people aren't gonna see him thorughing chairs or whatever other crazy shit he was doing 10 seconds before that picture.

    If the person's armed, then cops aren't gonna take the chance with a melee weapon and will just go straight to gun or try taser with someone covering with a gun. And even with a violent unarmed person, you have to consider the possibility they can produce a weapon like a knife or a gun and it's better to already have a gun in your hand than a baton.

    Also something else that's probably a factor is qualification. It's much easier to come up with consistent and objective standards for using a firearm than using a baton. So naturally cops will train more with the one they're required to have a level of proficiency with. Because with batons it's inpractical to have standards like
    >be able to restrain an angry 180 lbs male with this specific technique
    whereas with handguns it's easy to say
    >be able to score X on target Y at Z distance
    and mark someone off as proficient.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      although something else to think about concerning optics is how body cams might be able to change that. If you have video of what the guy was doing before, that caused you to use a baton on him, it's much better than just the cops word. Plus people are more likely to see the body cam footage first than just a picture in a physical newspaper article.

      Although being post george floyd will probably nullify all of that regardless.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I get this is bait or moronation but I'll bite:
    Batons are compliance tools, not defensive weapons. It's also a lot easier to get in and out of your unit with an ASP baton than a PR24/tonfa/nightstick. Cops don't need batons frequently, and these days you also have mace and tasers. Personnel who are expected to whack people (riot cops) are still issued long straight batons

    >D-battery maglite is twice as good as a weapon
    1. Police don't use D-battery Mag-Lites any more
    2. Departments started discouraging the use of flashlights as weapons as early as the 1970s. A large metal flashlight can kill a man with one blow. There's a lot of legal precedent behind this. Same reason a nightstick isn't two pounds of solid metal.
    3. Many departments actively issue flashlights that can't be used as weapons. Either modern ones that are too small or polymer ones that won't kill. There are only a couple still being made you can clobber a dude with and they're no longer very popular.

    t. police flashlight historian

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > A large metal flashlight can kill a man with one blow.
      Well, yeah, they're much more effective as weapons. The ASP baton seems, like the modern police flashlight you describe, to be intentionally gimped. It's so bad as striking that cops resort to using it as a half-assed "compliance tool" e.g.

      https://i.imgur.com/8o3k2ks.jpg

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Well, yeah, they're much more effective as weapons.
        Police batons are specifically _not_ deadly weapons, and they never have been. They've always been a nonlethal compliance tool. When modern police flashlights were created in the late '60s it introduced an issue where cops suddenly had a potentially lethal impact weapon. That's fine if you're trying to defend yourself from an armed attacker, but cops would use them instead of a baton and cave in dudes' skulls. The reaction to this was half emphasizing not hitting people with flashlights and half creating less dangerous lights. It's a moot point today since flashlights no longer have a technical reason to be large so they only sell a couple larger models for departments with legacy equipment or ones who permit the use of flashlights as a weapon.

        I swear to god half of /k/ is completely divorced from reality and only go by what they think is cool.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Well, yeah, they're much more effective as weapons
        No they aren’t you dumbass. Why are you pretending that an aluminum flashlight that spreads impact force over a large area is a better striking weapon than a steel club with a much more concentrated striking area? Not only have you never hit anyone with either, but you’ve never been in a fight.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even a club, you fat homosexual with b***h breasts. Clubs by definition have their center of balance towards the striking end. These toy batons are balanced backwards.
          > I-it's really thin, so it's more effective.
          That's a very smoothbrained take.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Clubs by definition have their center of balance towards the striking end.
            Like an ASP baton?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Confirmed that you've never held an ASP baton, or you're using it backwards.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But that's pretty moronic, even by /k/'s standards. Collapsible batons are thinner than your standard nightsticks, so the force is concentrated on a smaller area, they are more convenient and thus are more likely to be on you if you ever need them, and the opening of one is an intimidation technique and may reduce the chances of having to use the stick in the first place. Sure they require more training and some maintenance but nobody who has access to a collapsible baton would ever choose a normal beatstick to carry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Collapsible batons are thinner than your standard nightsticks, so the force is concentrated on a smaller area
      Way less force due to their lighter weight, generally shorter length, and piss poor balance.
      > Muh convenience
      > Muh intimidation technique
      lmao.
      We're talking weapons here, not theater props.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Way less force due to their lighter weight, generally shorter length, and piss poor balance.
        But you're wrong on all three counts.
        >We're talking weapons here, not theater props.
        It's a less than lethal tool, you utter tit. What the frick do you think they'd be used for?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They are lighter, shorter on average (average 21" vs. 24"+), and their balance is garbage, with a point of balance usually somewhere in the handle.
          You're delusional.
          > It's a less than lethal tool
          Truncheons are weapons. But, yeah, when you gimp them enough, I guess they become "a less than lethal tool."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They're of similar weights, their length goes all the way up to 31" and their balance is fine. I don't understand why you're trying to get a rise out of me by being intentionally wrong.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The longest here is 26", with most being much shorter.
              https://www.asp-usa.com/collections/batons?view=by_48&page=1
              What the hell's the point of a 16" collapsible baton? Can you tell me?
              > their balance is fine
              > t. has never held a proper melee weapon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.copsplus.com/asp-31-expandable-friction-lock-batons-all-types
                First result on israelitegle.
                >What the hell's the point of a 16" collapsible baton? Can you tell me?
                Being more concealable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >https://www.copsplus.com/asp-31-expandable-friction-lock-batons-all-types
                > "Sorry, this item is no longer available"
                They literally stopped making them. Not on the ASP site, either. It must have been too based, too good a weapon, to continue to exist. Gimped short-'n-light versions only.
                The weapon gods frown upon this.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I understand it was mostly used by mounted police who needed the extra reach to hit anything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                someone sells XL 4-section expanders.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they stopped making the longest, silliest version of a product
                >"no one makes them anymore because they don't work!! Toplol!"

                https://www.galls.com/asp-26-expandable-baton?PMWTNO=000000000002195&PMSRCH=
                https://www.galls.com/asp-21-expandable-baton?PMWTNO=000000000002195&PMSRCH=

                Stop being a moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Silliest? How about you explain the existence of all of those sub-20" models. How the frick are those supposed to do anything, besides make Black folk more angry?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Do you have any idea how much weakness is introduced to the strike end of a baton by having 20" of hollow metal? Or how much space you need to properly swing that motherfricker? Imagine you had an arming sword and the only proper application was a wide side-swing? That extra 5" of required clearance is only going to be there in an open field because even city streets have parked cars. 21" is ideal for cops, 18" ideal for rentacops using them exclusively indoors. 31" is fricking goofy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > Do you have any idea how much weakness is introduced to the strike end of a baton by having 20" of hollow metal?
                Exactly, they are moronic as weapons.
                > 21" is ideal for cops, 18" ideal for rentacops using them exclusively indoors. 31" is fricking goofy.
                Manlet detected. 31" is not really that long, and you need the length to make up for the shit-tier weight and balance of batons like the ASP and, yes, the EKA.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Big solid batons are annoying to carry on duty. You're getting in and out of a car all shift. The collapsible ones just fit on a belt better and do what a solid baton can do, just a bit worse. Batons aren't used to crack someone over the head anymore, most departments only allow that when the situation has escalated to lethal force levels. Batons are now relegated to only being used for pain compliance and non-lethal self defense. Between 2 states and multiple departments I've been taught that you're only supposed to hit them in the arms/hands and legs with it, or jab ribs with the butt of it. The light hollow design of the collapsible batons fits with this philosophy of use. They're simply too light to actually cause much real damage. I only carry it as a dog whacker and window breaker, but officers that can't punch can perhaps depend on it as a fist replacement. If you need a fist replacement as a civilian then it just might be a good tool for you. It definitely is going to hit harder than a fist even if you're a good puncher, but probably be less effective to the jaw and ribs than a good solid punch. The main benefit is, if you aren't subject to department rules you can crack someone in the skull with it which you can't do with your hands. Understand the level of seriousness that carries, head injuries to that extent are no joke, so this better be self defense against a felonious level of crime being committed against you. At least as far as the homo-fied state is concerned. Honestly just knock the Black person out and leave for all I care.

    I've also owned cheap Chinese ones as a kid. They bend so easily that after hitting something once, they bend and can no longer be collapsed. I think my issued one now is an ASP, it's smashed a few hardened car windows and is still straight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry for the wall of text, but basically these things kinda suck, but only kinda. You have to know where to hit with them and for the love of God practice retention techniques. During training these things fly out of people's hands when striking all the time, or they don't know how to grab and twist against the attacker's thumb when he grabs it. Those are problems with any baton though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if you aren't subject to department rules you can crack someone in the skull with it which you can't do with your hand

      Forearms are a secondary target, your priority is big muscle groups like triceps and thighs. Knees you don't want to hit at all, they're a lawsuit waiting to happen.

      >Knees you don't want to hit at all, they're a lawsuit waiting to happen.
      This is why I actually think batons are better for civilian self-defense than they're given credit for. The main reasons they're viewed as ineffective is because they're rarely used by police, and what police are allowed to do with them anymore is severely limited, and most cases you see in videos of civilians using them are comical because the person usually has no idea how to use it and ends up getting their ass kicked.
      With some training, a civilian in a self-defense scenario can do things like hit the attacker's hands, knees, and head, which police normally aren't allowed to do in most scenarios. It's probably the second-best option for defending against knife attacks after a gun, WITH TRAINING, because you actually have to learn footwork, targeting, etc. in order to be able to target a knife attacker's hand and be able to evade/block their stab attempts. The baton gives you more reach, but you need training to understand how to actually manage that distance and what to do if the attacker gets too close. It's more complicated than most people realize.
      That's one of the main things people don't understand about batons is that you still need to have a decent understanding of fighting in order to use one effectively. If you don't know how to fight, then you're probably going to lose anyways even if you pull out a baton. Just like with any weapon (or unarmed), a well-trained fighter using a baton can be extremely effective while an untrained moron can make batons seem like a meme (webm related)
      But to argue that batons are a meme because of untrained morons wielding them and getting rekt is basically the same as arguing that punching is useless because of untrained morons who don't know how to punch correctly

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And what you see here, is why formal training with a baton is important, the blocking hand was faster than the baton strike cause the larptard actually swung out before striking

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he shoulda swung for the lower legs while shielding his head with other arm.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            First off, he shouldn't have attacked anyone at all, he shouldn't have taken a weapon to a fricking protest
            Second off, yesno, he should have rested the baton on his shoulder and quickly strike downward while opening up his hip to give no chance to parry

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            literally all he had to do was no telegraph it with that cartoonish wind up and he probably would landed it. The length of a baton, or any melee weapon, means it'll travel faster than your hand and naturally the length gives you more range.

            the TL;DR on stick fighting is it's basically boxing. You don't swing it like you're hammering a nail, you basically throw a bunch and rotate your forearm to change the angle of the strike.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              First off, he shouldn't have attacked anyone at all, he shouldn't have taken a weapon to a fricking protest
              Second off, yesno, he should have rested the baton on his shoulder and quickly strike downward while opening up his hip to give no chance to parry

              I'm an old framing carpenter swinging hammer all day for years, but I kinda sucked in baton class and was "swinging like a girl".

              you will see pro baseball players swinging like men and using hips, but they will also lose balance frequently and semi-fall down. If you lose balance with big swing that often as a carpenter you'd be dead in a month because you aren't on flat soft dirt.

              Even 98% of life and death street fights take place on ground that has already been made lawsuit proof safe before public access.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                having taken a baton class from someone that sorta knows it at least from being cert to teach classes and doing so every so often, I can confirm its something you'd need to train with and even get coaching on details of form, not just go out and try to club clowns with it.

                big part of that is resisting getting it taken

                also, methods of strikes are not obvious or intuitive even for someone like myself with tons of hammer swinging exp and muscle memory up the ass, and monkey grip.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this kills the masked homosexual
        Righteous justice for someone who thinks the baton is the weapon of a revolutionary

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I broke a guys shoulder with one these at work once.
    >t. CO who deals with shitheads for a living

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people really discount hollow steel tubes. I've done sparring with rhoutun (probably spelled wrong, but it's basically solid bamboo) and you could definitely break fingers and maybe even a collar bone with those. I'd imagine hollow steel could do much worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I wouldn't want to get thwacked any harder than I do in yearly recert training, and our training ones have rubber tips. they work pretty fricking good for compliance, and an armbar takedown with one of these will frick a guy up

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The virgin ASP baton vs. the chad $10 tire-knocker.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Batons are a policy weapon, they fulfill a checked box on the use of force checklist. That said, you're supposed to bash knees and forearms with them when they do get used.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Forearms are a secondary target, your priority is big muscle groups like triceps and thighs. Knees you don't want to hit at all, they're a lawsuit waiting to happen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He was being assaultive and moving erratically, my intended target was the thigh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, that can work as a defense.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HR gets mad when you smash a Black folk head in nowadays, so they use crappier non lethal to protect the dindus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Funfact, the expandable batons are more lethal than the classic batons, the long riot batons are flexible plastic to cause less injury
      The classic tonfa is made of wood, it also feathers back on impact

      expandable batons are steel, they break bones.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a "good" baton will kill a guy if you hit them in the head with it, why bother when you can just shoot them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much any club will kill someone if you hit them in the head.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    compact to have on duty belt and rarely used.

    THIN narrow striker is good for bringing down large powerful drunks with "stingers" to lower legs.

    I know two big drunks that said they were tossing mini-pigs around "like rag dolls" but the stingers to legs brought them down.

    You can't have cops spinning batons walking their beats, due to George Floyd.

    But I wouldn't mind a big flashlight if it had also Stun-gun and pepperspray, and was rechargable, and a super duper bright light to blind perps at 50yrds.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >D-battery maglite

    please try swinging a full-length maglite, see how slow they are.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >D-battery maglite
    Accept no substitutes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've been told they pretty much suck ass, since they so heavy and big and round, and short.

      plus not even high power light.

      as baton you wont be able to swing fast to get 'stinger' effect and slow swing also easy to block.

      Even biker gangs that required their EDC because "I'm allowed to have a flashlight as a felon" have ditched them.

      concept needs to be reworked from blank sheet of paper as 18650 and a real light bulb, and stun-gun, and spray combo, with also USB output, and maybe something else I forgot.

      These days, maybe NARCAN dispenser.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I've been told they pretty much suck ass, since they so heavy and big and round, and short.
        Longer than your flimsy toy baton.
        More powerful.
        > 'stinger' effect
        fudd.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >flimsy toy baton
          >a piston driven steel baton
          >with the possibility to screw a lead weight to the top
          moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > I-it's made of steel, so it must be good.
            > It has a piston, and electrolytes!
            > N-nevermind that it's small, short, hollow, light, prone to bending, prone to breaking, balanced completely ass-backwards, and absolutely sucks in every way as a weapon.
            The d-cell maglite is something like a mace. The "piston driven steel baton" is a gimped cope weapon that nobody in history was ever dumb enough to deploy as a weapon.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >prone to bending, prone to breaking, balanced completely ass-backwards
              the hollow aluminum maglite unironically breaks faster than an EKA
              you have no first hand experience on the discussed subject

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Me on the bottom

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