THESE STUPID PIECES OF SHIT CAN KILL YOU

>be a few hours innawoods camping
>filter water with one of these badboys from a large, clear water lake
>go to shit one night, open my ass and its like the bathtub faucet was turned on
>never shat like that in my life
>whole camp is wretching within hours
>we later learn we likely caught norovirus
>am the only one strong enough to carry much gear and another guy has to be carried out
>other guy is completely fine along with me, but within an hour he's keeled over puking everywhere barely keeping his face off the ground
>we start the drive back
>can't even make it, have to pull into a motel next to a hospital
>within hours, we are delirious from dehydration as we puke 3.5x the volume of whatever we can drink
>barely able to lift myself out of bed, make the call we gotta go to the hospital
>collapse in the entry way, scared of my own reflection in the mirror when I see it
>doctor hooks us up to IV
>no longer insane after 15 minutes of the jesus hydration gravy train
>tells me I was starting to die from dehydration
>turns out these filters advertise as safe for camping, but very few filter viruses, and those that do are ultra slow

DON'T USE THESE SHITTERS EVER. ITS NOT WORTH IT. USE PURIFICATION TABS AND/OR BOIL WATER

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where were you camping?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just north of the great lakes region in canada, there were cottages on the lake, but not many. Most blogs recommend these things are sufficient and that purifiers (that kill viruses) would be overkill

      Well I guess we were the unlucky 0.001%, but with the way lakes are heating up even in the winter, stay ahead of the curve and don't be a statistic, just use aquatabs. only use these as pre-filters at most. It's just not worth the risk my fellow PrepHoleists

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >north of the great lakes
        Cursed land. This wasn't an issue with your water filter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i boil tap water.. i hear it is recycled from tge sewage system

        theres a dude who drinks straight from spring water that has little chance of contamination from dead animals or bugs and is uphill from civilization. but even then u should boil it. glad yall turned out ok. read instruction labels carefully... didnt it recommend u should boil the water too after?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no, it doesn't say anything. the Amazon store page says thats its basically totally safe. Yes, amazon shit, but when we looked at it closely many from reputable brands also do not claim to filter viruses. They are also advertised as safe for camping and simply omit that they don't filter viruses

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >amazon
            You deserved it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sue em

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            or tell a news agency

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >amazon
              You deserved it

              That sort of stuff isnt possible in cucknada

              >amazon
              You deserved it

              The entire premise of product is flawed. Viruses are infinitely more small than bacteria and parasites. Anything that can filter viruses are too slow to be practical

              Granted norovirus is rare.. or is it? The shitters stay alive in the environment for super long and it only days one or two to frick you up, and an infected human or animal sheds billions every day

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >amazon
            >north americans
            kek nobody in the whole of continental europe is this moronic no meme

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              your opinion doesn't matter because you live in a pale imitation of what a natural world looks like and not a real one

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and the instruction booklet basically just said filter and go.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Spends one night camped next to his car with 4 friends.
    me I was starting to die from dehydration

    Your ancestors would be so proud.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah why the hell could our ancestors drink water, there were way more animals and people shitting all over the place then

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They died all the time from things like this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          if that was true their corpses would pollute the waterway and there'd be a runaway effect

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh for fricks sake I can't believe I'm telling you this
            >Cholera
            >Dysentery
            >Polio

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        after the discovery of fire it wasn't long before ppl boiled water. before that they probably copied animals. if the water tastes bad it probably is bad. i think if it tastes sweet or good then its ok but don't di this until u research a lot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          never had pots for thousands of years and primitives never ever got pots. I think the medical industry is claiming cures for something that never really was any worse

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did you atleast get some morphine from a soft tiddy nurse at the hospital?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    good point, I think I will invest in some purification tablets

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    couple weeks ago I saw an instagram reel from some guy who found out he was allergic to water purification tablets and almost died lmao

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >USE PURIFICATION TABS AND/OR BOIL WATER
    That's not going to help, either. None of this gets rid of chemicals flushed out of fertilizers or local anomalous concentrations of other chemicals. It's not that uncommon for some dipshits to drown industry trash into a lake, or discretely flush sewage down a river. Maybe these would not kill you, but could easily give you diarrhoea, or worse, cause severe electrolyte imbalance.
    There's no 'safe' method of purifying water. Some risk is always involved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      op here, I suppose you could use a filter then purify

      tho i admit I've been cooking a bit on it and I'm starting to think that once norovirus is in a camp its over. someone pointed out that it could have been picked up from a surface and then when someone went to wash the dishes it basically poisoned everyone. It could have been picked up from an outhouse. Hand sanitizer doesn't do jack shit to norovirus

      I think in a large camp (we were a dozen people) one or two people should be in charge of purifying water, maintaining drinkeable water levels and that should involve several filters (for speed) and then purification with tablets and maybe some gatorade powder to cover the taste. Boiling that much water simply takes too much time/fuel in the quantities needed for 12 people.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >op here, I suppose you could use a filter then purify
        The thing is that you can't get most of the water-soluble fertilizers, pesticides etc. out of water even with the fanciest 'filters' that you might carry. If this were possible, all desalination would not be that super-expensive as it is.
        Most filters act as a sieve, some (such as carbon filters) can do a little more, but there's nothing in filtering that can remove simple salts.

        >There's no 'safe' method of purifying water.
        Of course there is. Just evaporate it and have it drip down into a cup.

        >Just evaporate it and have it drip down into a cup.
        Such water is not fine for drinking, for your kidneys (and your skin) expel electrolytes, evaporated water contains none, and nutrients from food alone (especially such that you take PrepHole) cannot cover the losses. So you basically are killing yourself slowly by lowering electrolyte levels below what is viable. Afair people who climb mountains and drink melted snow/glacier carry electrolyte tablets or those effervescent multivitamins to supplement electrolytes.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >nnooooo goyim drinking clean water is BAD for you!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't Gatorade's whole schtick that each bottle is choked full of electrolytes? I'm not seeing what your issue is hombre.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Such water is not fine for drinking, for your kidneys (and your skin) expel electrolytes, evaporated water contains none, and nutrients from food alone (especially such that you take PrepHole) cannot cover the losses. So you basically are killing yourself slowly by lowering electrolyte levels below what is viable

          Ok I'm going to jump in this conversation by calling you an actual fricking moron, moron. Evaporated water (in this context) is the same exact thing as distilled water; these water types, as you mentioned, have no dissolved solids/aqueous ions, so you are strictly drinking 100% H2O. If you *only* consumed evaporated/distilled water and literally nothing else, yes you can cause major electrolyte imbalances by causing your cells to burst, or you may simply piss out the electrolytes you want to hold on to while PrepHole. However, consuming foods, snacks, or anything else will provide you with various electrolytes, vitamins, and minerals, that will keep your body active either way. Assuming you're eating, it's better to drink the evaporated/distilled water than water directly from the stream. Outside of PrepHole (/in/side?), thousands of people exclusively drink distilled water from their grocery stores because they think it has magical cancer-curing properties, yet we don't see them dropping like flies.

          Regarding dissolved/diluted chemicals within the water, that is just about the only thing you cannot remove from drinking water other than the evaporation/distillation methods. Just have to roll the dice and only collect water from safe(r) sources, such as flowing water from mountaintops, for example.

          >Drink water
          >few hours later sitting myself
          Noro takes one to two days to show symptoms, not a few hours. Nice larp story.

          Noro can onset same-day, but typically needs most of the day towards ~12+ hours or so. I'm guessing the idiot OP drank water with chemicals in it, since chemical contam will typically hit faster and more violent than biological contam.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Such water is not fine for drinking, for your kidneys (and your skin) expel electrolytes, evaporated water contains none, and nutrients from food alone (especially such that you take PrepHole) cannot cover the losses.

          This is utter bullshit. My israelitedar is going fricking mental.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There's no 'safe' method of purifying water.
      Of course there is. Just evaporate it and have it drip down into a cup.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's incredibly more likely that one of you brought the noro in (did you stop at a public restaurant and eat uncooked food, like salad or vegetables, even in a sandwich?) and your poor camp sanitation spread it through the group. Noro isn't crypto or giardia, or even coliforms to an extent, it's generally not naturally present in the environment.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Drink water
    >few hours later sitting myself
    Noro takes one to two days to show symptoms, not a few hours. Nice larp story.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Such water is not fine for drinking, for your kidneys (and your skin) expel electrolytes, evaporated water contains none, and nutrients from food alone (especially such that you take PrepHole) cannot cover the losses. So you basically are killing yourself slowly by lowering electrolyte levels below what is viable

      Ok I'm going to jump in this conversation by calling you an actual fricking moron, moron. Evaporated water (in this context) is the same exact thing as distilled water; these water types, as you mentioned, have no dissolved solids/aqueous ions, so you are strictly drinking 100% H2O. If you *only* consumed evaporated/distilled water and literally nothing else, yes you can cause major electrolyte imbalances by causing your cells to burst, or you may simply piss out the electrolytes you want to hold on to while PrepHole. However, consuming foods, snacks, or anything else will provide you with various electrolytes, vitamins, and minerals, that will keep your body active either way. Assuming you're eating, it's better to drink the evaporated/distilled water than water directly from the stream. Outside of PrepHole (/in/side?), thousands of people exclusively drink distilled water from their grocery stores because they think it has magical cancer-curing properties, yet we don't see them dropping like flies.

      Regarding dissolved/diluted chemicals within the water, that is just about the only thing you cannot remove from drinking water other than the evaporation/distillation methods. Just have to roll the dice and only collect water from safe(r) sources, such as flowing water from mountaintops, for example.

      [...]
      Noro can onset same-day, but typically needs most of the day towards ~12+ hours or so. I'm guessing the idiot OP drank water with chemicals in it, since chemical contam will typically hit faster and more violent than biological contam.

      need to work on your reading comprehension. it never says they got it after a few hours.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh reading comprehension
        I'd call you a moron even if you hadn't failed to read OP's post

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    moronic LARP, i just came back from mammoth lakes and all my water intake came from a cheap straw & bag like the one in your picture. My stomach is fine, my dick is hard and you are a PUSSY
    Captcha: GG8VFW

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just looked at the Amazon page, they don't claim these remove viruses and bacteria at all. You might as well have taken a brita filter into the woods.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aaah, technology
    Only good for complicating things

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bags? Never had a problem with them

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah boil that shit

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just researched on water purification for my next hike. water filters don’t kill viruses op. it’s best to use a filter first and then chemically treat the water with iodine or chlorine to kill the bacteria.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how are there so many morons on something as simple as drinking water? OP likely fricked something up, contaminated his filter set up etc.

    literally pick one of the million methods civilization has come up with to filter water: UV, tablets, lifestraw and enjoy nature like the millions of other people

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure if you're larping or just plain moronic. Viruses can barely survive in water for more than a few days, and even that is only in calm water with little oygen - like the lake your moronic ass filtered from. In a creek, where there's plenty of oxygen, viruses only last a few hours at most.

    And either way, as viruses don't procreate without a host, the only way you could have caught enoug viruses to make an entire camp sick is if you filtered right next to a fresh pile of shit. Otherwise, the viruses should have been diluted way too much.

    tl;dr: OP is a moron who thought spending a few bucks on a filter would make up for notknowing the first thing about survival

    t. guy who's filtering his drinking water on 2-3 hikes / week and hasn't gotten sick in 15 years

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Noroviruses are very contagious and can spread through an infected person's stool or vomit. The illness often begins suddenly and usually includes nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and stomach cramps. Chlorine disinfection helps kill this virus in pools, but lakes and beaches can be contaminated. Avoid swallowing water while swimming to help prevent infection. Learn more at Norovirus, CDC.

      https://doh.wa.gov/you-and-your-family/illness-and-disease-z/recreational-water-illnesses

      >This study demonstrates that Norwalk virus in groundwater can remain detectable for over 3 years and can remain infectious for at least 61 days.

      https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/aem.05806-11

      >Human norovirus (HuNoV) is a leading cause of acute gastroenteritis globally1−4 and an important contributor to recreational waterborne illness.5−8

      >However, few studies have assessed HuNoV capsid and genome damage concurrently in environmental contexts.35,37 Mechanistic studies of HuNoV inactivation in environmental waters are needed.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9996820/

      so the science is not understood about how long it can survive in a lake but it definitely can survive far longer than you're suggesting here. And some government orgs are already warning that lakes can be inherently contaminated

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we later learn we likely caught norovirus
    why I always carry around chlorine dioxide

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buys from amazon
    >doesn't even do the most basic research
    >canadian
    You deserved it and the only shame is that you didn't die from dehydration. People as stupid as you shouldn't be allowed to be anything other than draft animals.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gravity-based water purifiers come in various grades - those that will take dead mice out of the water, and those that will remove grains of sand, etc, bacteria, and salt molecules.
    You saw this barely legible chinglish and thought "Yeah, these guys know what they're doing." Their own fricking website says that you still need to boil.

    Literally have a nice day you moronic pajeet.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Use a sawyer squeeze moron
    0.1 micron filter removes viruses

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      0.1 micron is 100nm. Noroviruses are smaller than 40nm.
      Those filters are capable of filtering out some viruses, but not all of them.

      There is no method – boiling, disinfectant, carbon filters, whatsoever – that can remove chemicals such as pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, or heavy metal ions, toxic salts, or illegal sewage dump from local industry. Even distilling is not going to help you against it all, for many toxic organic substances form azeotropes with water.

      It's always a risk, and if you're such a pussy, stay home and don't go PrepHole.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It could have been snow you melted in your hands and you should should have boiled it. You always boil wild water

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    theoretically how do you deal with symptoms like this in the absence of hospitals and ambulances? if you've got someone who's dehydrated and shitting and vomiting out all of the liquid you try to give them? all i can find online just says "give them water and wait until an ambulance arrives" what if they're unconscious and can't take water or they immediately expel it back out? what if an ambulance might be an hour or more out?
    any ideas anons?

    • 3 weeks ago
      BecomeTomboy

      This why diarrhea + vomitting used to kill many people, and in some parts of the world still does

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your only shot is to try and get them to keep down gravol or other anti nausea medicine long enough to be able to reduce nausea enough to drink more

      if they're unconscious its too late, tho I don't think losing conciousness is really that common up until the last moments, the person is likely to become delirious though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was in this situation and refused to go to hospital on my own wish, no doctor will ever touch me [covid traumatized]. I layed on my left side and took one pill of charcoal [stops diarrhea, absorbs eventual poisons].
      then take electrolytes in powder, like picrel, take full two sachettes and dump in to half glass of warm [not hot] water. drink sip, by sip. inhale peppermint stick or mint tea [reduces nausea, it helped me get thru the glass]. after drinking the glass, calm down to hold it, on the left side, lay calmly and inhale something minty. After 40 min., another glass, warm water, one sachette. sip by sip.
      I survived.
      Powdered electrolytes and charcoal in tablets should be always with you. for many reasons.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How did cavemen deal with this
    did they just boil everything somehow?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >boil water
    it's like a fricking standard procedure, even before filtering, wtf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You filter first, then you boil/purify.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably could have just drank the lake water straight lol

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