These bad boys have 128 vls cells more than those shitty type 55s. We got six of em. We can probably BTFO a daring class destroyer.
These bad boys have 128 vls cells more than those shitty type 55s. We got six of em. We can probably BTFO a daring class destroyer.
yeah
worst tard vs best tard
ships are girls anon
> we
>we
Healed up from your most recent round of plastic surgery yet Jin?
What the fuck
Being huwhite is a hell of a drug.
Damn asiaticshill and warriortard really are the same poster lmao.
It has been obvious for months
>We got six of em
You "got" three of "em" The fourth has launched but isn't commissioned, the fifth has started early construction and the sixth hasn't even started construction yet.
You can't do math at all or are you packing ESSMs to the brim?
Either way, you're retarded.
He is saying 128 VLS cells is more than the Type 055 (with 112 VLS cells)
He is still a retard though.
Also, while the Sejong the Great class DOES have 128 VLS cells, only 80 of them are compatible with American missiles. Another 48 are only compatible with K-VLS missiles, which are domestic korean produced missiles (KM-SAM, K-SAAM, K-ASROC, a sea skimmer anti-ship missile, and a land attack cruise missile)
And it should be noted, the korean missiles aren't equivalent to their american counterparts in most cases. Though they do boost local korean MIC.
is the exact amount of VLS cells really that decisive for a ship's combat effectiveness?
all else being equal more dakka = more dead durkha's. And generally you want at least 2 missiles for every interception to ensure it's destroyed which will go through your numbers fast. That said ESSM can fit 4 missiles to a cell i'm fairly sure and there's another missile that can fit 2 to a cell i think.
Future German frigate here. I displace 10,000 tons and have wooping 16 VLS cells.
Still more than my predecessor the current Baden Wurttemberg class which has exactly 0 (zero) VLS cells.
I'm aware that it's far too little, that's why I said the *exact* number of VLS cells. Like is it certain a ship with 128 cells will be more combat effective than one with 96 cells? Or aren't other factors like sensors or radar cross section more decisive?
i'm really fucking curious what it uses all that fucking space for, it's a massive ship and has barey any fucking VLS, are they actually going to put something useful in there or are they just making a ship that's way bigger than it needs to be for it's role?
They are going for endurance. The ships are supposed to last 2 years in the operations area without having to return home for repairs. The crew is swapped out every 6 months. So the additional space is mostly redundant systems and stores for spare parts.
What exactly is the point? 16 VLS cells is only enough for an engagement against a single enemy vessel if it's even slightly modern. Why bother have long endurance if it can't fight in more than one short engagement?
The endurance is mostly for when they do international stabilization and peacekeeping missions. Current German ships were built for short AAW and ASW deployments in the North Sea not for months of pirate patrol or arms embargo enforcement off the African coast. The F125 class is designed to do only that and the F126 class is an ASW frigate that can also be used for those missions during peacetime. During wartime the ships are never intended for longer missions like an Arleigh Burke that needs to follow a CVN around the globe.
F124 is capable of fleet air defense and its successor (F127) will be too
F126 is the successor of F123 with equally little VLS cells (16), but as you said it's more adaptable for peacekeeping missions with mission modules
F125 isn't good for conventional warfare but well set up for peacekeeping
I'm a bit butthurt about that they're not heavily armed, but realistically if peer conflicts won't happen due to NATO deterrence, perhaps this isn't so dumb after all
I hate them so much. Military capability might hurt somebody…
Still uses the outdated PESA radar while 055 has dual band AESA radar.
Not when you have shitty radar
> Still uses the outdated PESA radar
still does 90%+ of the US fleet
90% of US navy are outdated crap
ah, modernity
US Navy actually spends it's time at sea. If your navy always looks pristine your ships probably don't leave port much and don't stay out for long or go very far when they do. Ships that have been at sea for a long time pretty much always look like ass because sea spray is a salty bitch.
I've always wondered just how much that hatch did to that guy's face at 0:13. It's damn sure not a love tap, he got absolutely blasted.
>. If your navy always looks pristine your ships probably don't leave port much
That's a shitty cope. USA simply lack the facilities to maintenant its fleet properly
>USA simply lack the facilities to maintenant its fleet properly
they seem to maintain them well enoughto not lose them with all hands
If anything is a "cope" it's statements like yours. The US has tons of ports and several major shipyards. Again, the US Navy actually spends it's time at sea. When USN ships come back to port and get cleaned up they look pristine until they go back out and the sea covers them in her salty spray again.
Its also the paint. USN doesn't use lead paint.
Is China even a blue water Navy? Any pictures of a rusty vessel returning from a multiple month deployment?
no, yellow water only.
>Dual band AESA
amazing
You are into burp porn and reply to Elon Musk hoping that senpai will notice you.
Another 5inch at the back and shed be perfect
You know how hard is it to find 5 inches in Korea?
asiatic's right you know
>VLS cells on hangar
Where do the helos go?
There's enough space, but the hangar extends beside the VLS, in the bird's eye view here imagine two long compartments along the length of the ship, one on either side of the VLS
Why can't the AB Flight III do this
they do, just not with as many VLS cells
I know, my point is why is it just 6 extra cells instead of the full 128, would make retiring the Ticos be less painful
That's what the DDG(X) is for which will have 128 cells
Magazine depth isn't really what makes ticos harder to retire, it's their communications setup and room for an admiral and staff that makes ticos so nice.
The few extra VLS cells aren't actually all THAT relevant, we'll have a bunch of cheap constellation-class frigates soon with extra VLS cells we can throw into a CSG to cover that gap if we want.
Why bother spending another $500-1B+ and 36+ months redesigning flight III burkes for a few more VLS cells? Just not worthwhile at this point.
Based(and actual) best Korea, can't wait to see the footage of drowning chinks on the south Taiwan sea in the near future.
If your country isn't on this list, wtf are you even doing?
better list if you want to include systems besides the American Mk41 VLS.
>Tfw when Bongland has the same number of VLS as France Germany Italy and Portugal combined
Lol wtf
retarded question probably
do VLS detonate like powder mags if hit?
Very much so, even worse
bruh... we gotta armor these muhfukkas...
retard, in navy battles its all about out rangeing not uparmouring.
yeah battle plan A always works dickhead
Yes, that's why Zumwalt has side-mounted VLS cells with side-facing blowout panels.
Yep, the Mk-57 Peripheral Vertical Launching System. Though I'm not sure if it has actually been shown to be any safer compared to centrally located VLS cells.
More ordinance to cook off when Big Chang Wang comes to bend your fleet over.