>these are the levels of $1.50 per shot cope that people go through to avoid simply shooting large bore for woodland hunting

>these are the levels of $1.50 per shot cope that people go through to avoid simply shooting large bore for woodland hunting
I don't get it. It's not like 450 Bushmaster or 458 Sodom don't exist. If you're an eastern woodland hunter, why screw around with this shit? Especially if you want to hunt with subsonic.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because there was a concerted marketing campaign and they just buy whatever is on the commercials.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >458 Sodom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >.458 Sodom

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >458 Sodom

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >low velocity impacts showing little expansion

    Wow im fricking shocked what a revolutionary development

    moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice spacing. Which website are you visiting PrepHole from?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lurk moar

        Bowhunting is an entirely different experience and is regulated differently by every single state allowing you to hunt different seasons, and is at least based in tradition (crossbows are gay don't ask). Subsonic hunting is just gearqueer losers playing with their toys

        >poorgay is mindbroken by fun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thats not an argument you pedantic homosexual

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nor is it pedantry, you fricking idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >missing the point entirely
      The point is if you want to do low velocity hunting, then it makes way more sense to just choose the already 45 caliber bullet instead of relying on a 30 caliber 1$ bullet that probably won't expand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your point is stupid. Anyone with two brain cells can see that. Low velocity hunting is a meme and waste of time

        Nice spacing. Which website are you visiting PrepHole from?

        Lmao
        How's my spacing bro

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's fun. People hunt with all sorts of suboptimal stuff, even bows and whatnot, because it's fun.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bowhunting is an entirely different experience and is regulated differently by every single state allowing you to hunt different seasons, and is at least based in tradition (crossbows are gay don't ask). Subsonic hunting is just gearqueer losers playing with their toys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no funs allowed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait till you see the price of 450 bushmaster or 458 socom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looks like the petals are peeled back at the base of the perforations, and they’re folded all the way back to the shank. It’s not possible for them to expand any more, regardless of velocity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They expanded, they aren’t going to get any wider with more velocity look how they are hugging the case; just bad bullet design

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro you don't need to sign your posts here

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What cartridge is that in the pic?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      300 Blackout hornady Sub-X
      190gr@950fps@16"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that's shit ammo then. Discreet ballistics expands reliably well below 400 fps

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s sick how they fold out to 90 degrees and stop and stay intact. How tf does that happen? Why no curving or folding back to the shank?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Proper twist rate and bullet construction is required for good subsonic performance

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know, but what kind of bullet construction can permit folding of the petals ONLY at the base? How come drag/force from tissue on the petal tips doenst peel it back further? And how come the base stops folding back past a certain point?

              Whatever witchcraft this is, I’d love to see it applied to 8.6 blackout subs. With maker rex 350gr bullets they expand out to ~1.3”, I wonder if you could get even more expansion.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Whatever witchcraft this is,
                basic testing and design?
                >I’d love to see it applied to 8.6
                well that isn't just renaming something so don't expect Q to do it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Discreet ballistics also makes 8.6 blk subs with the same design. Idk what to tell you man. This is their 280gr 8.6 blk expander that does the same thing but bigger, again, to an absurdly low "linear" fps.

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              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/liuUZzW.jpg

                Tbh the expansion looks underwhelming compared to maker rex bullets. Have you measured diameter by chance?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                message discreet ballistics, not my pics

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nice liver shot. a few more inches to the front next time

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most states require expanding ammunition, range is better for a given level of recoil, smaller bores tend to be cheaper.

    This is why I like medium bores, .358 Winchester shoots as flat as .308 to like 250 yards, .35 Whelen shoots as flat to perhaps 350. They remain pretty decent subsonic as well.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just started hunting with .450 Bushmaster. It worked well on the +200lb buck I shot with it. That said, the max shot I would’ve had there was like 125 yards. If zeroed at 100 yards (the most common distance for public shooting ranges) then you can expect 9” of drop at 200 yards with .450 Bushmaster Hornady Custom or Hornady Black. Those are the most common loadings you can find for it. That’s a lot for most people, and most people, including myself, get the opportunity to hunt areas where taking a 200 yard or longer shot may be required. Most people don’t have a collection of rifles to choose from. I have other rifles that are suitable for hunter deer at longer distances. I recently picked up a .375 Ruger. It’s a little much for whitetail unless you plan on shooting them at like 500 yards which it can do. I have a .308 as well. Well, I have multiple .308s, but most are battle rifles not deer rifles. I may pick-up a rifle chambered in one of the PRC cartridges at some point.

    TL:DR Most people don’t buy collections of rifles and just want a general purpose deer cartridge. That ain’t .450 Bushmaster or .458 Socom.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you zero for MPBR you should be good to 200 without holdover with the .450. The .375 Ruger is excellent, shoots about as flat as a .270. While it is a lot for deer, a 235 or 250 grain bullets shouldn't destroy too much meat unless you demolish a shoulder. Several people shoot dik-dik in Africa with 300 grain soft points or solids with no excessive damage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice, to know. Thanks for the info. I need to get some of the lighter grain stuff anyway. I do want a light general purpose bolt gun. The .375 I have is light, but I really wish it wasn’t. It’s about 7.5lbs which as I’m sure you can figure out is miserable to shoot. A 6.5 PRC or 7mm PRC would be nice if I can get one with carbon fiber stock and decent barrel.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've shot one myself, older African with no brake, sling, scope, nothing. It didn't destroy me but that was the absolute most amount of recoil I ever want to experience. With steel rings and a decently durable scope the weight should hover around 9 pounds which should make recoil more tolerable. As an aside, there is also an Alaskan Arms floorplate that will give you an extra round down but it costs $250.

          Rant: As for 6.5 or 7mm PRC, both are good calibers but obviously in a different power class. They are clones of 6.5mm-06 and 7mmRM respectively, so I would consider the former to be a bit light for Elk but it'll work and recoil will be marginal. The latter will do it all but recoil will be somewhat stout in a light rifle, so be careful there too. Both cartridges are overbore so I highly suggest the longest barrel you can find (26 inch ideally, 24 as a compromise) of a light profile to avoid excessive muzzle blast and increase velocity. Obviously this is suboptimal if you prefer a short rifle, in which case I would suggest a medium bore...which you already have in the .375. There are some reduced recoil loads available in manuals so if you reload, but I have little knowledge of them beyond that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I had a Tikka T3 lite in .300 win mag as long as it’s not too much worse than that it’ll be fine. I’m not especially recoil sensitive. It’s just the .375 is unpleasant enough to make practice something I’d rather not do. Then there is ammo price and availability. I probably should’ve just not sold the .300 win mag, but can’t change that now. Newer cartridges offer higher BC bullets which I care less about, but having access to higher grain weights is nice. And I’ve seen both of those stocked at my local stores. I appreciate the advice. I’ll probably go with the 6.5 in as light of rifle as possible. I wish CZ made the 600 Trail in a longer action.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ll just shoot my .30-30 for less

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Discreet Ballistics
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  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Final expanded diameter is kind of meaningless, both in rifle and handgun bullets. You do realize that for like 75% of that bullet's travel the petals were opening and were WAY wider than those pictures show, right?

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