there's no way an "arsenal ship" is more cost effective than stationing land-based launchers, right?
there's no way an "arsenal ship" is more cost effective than stationing land-based launchers, right?
there's no way an "arsenal ship" is more cost effective than stationing land-based launchers, right?
A DDG is already an arsenal ship.
an arsenal ship is purely offensive anon a burk having to slap more than half of its vls with whatever defensive missiles is NOT an arsenal ship in any way shape or form
Well, they're more mobile.
north korea isn't mobile, so you don't really need a ship
YOU want to be mobile so YOU avoid getting hit, genius
then use mobile ground based launchers. they're a lot cheaper and require less maintenance than a fucking ship
plus they're spread out more instead of putting all your eggs in one floating basket
Mobile ground units wouldn't be able to hit Nk coastline.
Ships can carry a lot and move it much more efficiently than anything ground, including rail. The main disadvantage is that it isn't as stable a firing platform, which becomes a non-issue with VLS guided missiles.
The "eggs in one basket" is less of a concern while the ship is at sea. Ground missiles need bunkers to park in and Korea is a pretty small country.
Boats are the superior means of warfare. I understand that your a big fan of land based weapons but ships have and always will be one of the most inportant factors in anny major conflict. And anmy conflict in wich the naval aspect wasn't a deciding factor is no major conflict
And bots are infinitely more mobile and resilient than a ground base able to supply the same number of munitions
The difficulty is moving the radar, not the launchers
what makes you think its just about north korea. a ship lets them project power and patrol their trade lanes with a massive fucking stick. Its also a slight jab at china to show that they wont just slouch over and die if china decides to pull some shit near their seas
this is old news. dunno why the glowies want to draw attention to this at the moment. I keep seeing this popping up recently but it's been known since months ago.
ground based launchers are nowhere as cheap as you think they are, retard. especially for huge missiles like the upcoming Hyunmoo-5.
and you need to deploy a ground based launcher before use as opposed to a ship that you just press a button.
>putting all your eggs in one floating basket
just like aircraft carriers? hurr durr, why do AEGIS ships exist.
The idea is that you do both. South Korea has money, they can afford to do both.
but vast majority of their AA will ne in the south
Good bait
the quiet part is this ship will be perfectly good at saturating the Port of Shanghai with missiles too
Every once in a while I'll get a YouTube recommendation and it will be called something like "TOTALLY AMAZING KOREAN STREET FOOD" and the totally amazing street food will be a hotdog
Thats What this shit is
It's western shit made in Korea
>>>PrepHole
South Korea is pretty nice, too bad the air is ruined by pollution from China.
They have many different kinds of street food in South Korea.
>Every once in a while I'll get a YouTube recommendation and it will be called something like "TOTALLY AMAZING KOREAN STREET FOOD" and the totally amazing street food will be a hotdog
To clarify on why this occurs, anon:
Quality of junk food items in Korea are generally better than what you can get in the US unless you pay $16 for that hotdog at the baseball stadium, or $10 for that corn dog at the fair. Then you're getting the same quality as Korean junk food.
Remember that Chick-fil-A vs. Popeyes chicken sandwich marketing war a few years back? The one that started brawls with black people in restaurants over shitty cardboard flavored meals? The real best massed produced chicken sandwich is at a franchise called "Mom's Touch" in south Korea. It's easily 10x better and there's a lot less chance you'll run into a moron unless you're enjoying your food by the DMZ border watching criminal army traitors commit desertion. Korean food is definitely over hyped on YouTube, but it is absolutely better than what they have readily available in the US.
Also fuck Wendy's.
>Also fuck Wendy's.
way to ruin a decent take with a burning dump at the end. wendy's is an american treasure.
Shut the fuck up retard.
brainlet and unamerican
>Also fuck Wendy's.
Fuck you.
you're probably not wrong, but everyone is gonna defend their awful greaseball-to-go restaurants to the death.
The $16 stadium hot dog is the same as at home and Korea; you are paying the cooks, the kitchen space rent, and the person delivering it.
>overhyped on YouTube
>10x better!
>But the unhealthy slop overseas is much better!
One would think the point ot arsenal ship is NOT having land based launchers
>ships are like... food
The average iq of this boars drops further and further everyday
>average iq of this boars
Hurtful. Uncalled for.
Not a boar I just like them.
>Not a boar I just like them.
Boar hooves typed this.
That's influencers being like "Corndog with cheese??? Yes I will wait 50 minutes and pay 12 USD for one!!!" but South Korea does have some good streetfood tbh
Threadly reminder that eating nonwhite food is cultural miscegenation and is hearlinding the death of the west
>non-white food
Tell me, what exactly is white food?
Steak.
>arsenal ship
>5000t
>80 missiles
Mayn small arsenal ships might actually make more sense than one big one. Placing not all of your eggs in one basket an all that.
The flight 1 arleigh burkes held 90 missiles and it displaced 8,200 tons. It is very well armed for its size.
Actually it costs less than mounting those missiles on individual trucks
missiles are great but not cost effective, I have no idea where this retarded thinking comes from. shell-fired artillery en mass will always be better for a large, prolonged conflict
This is as much about striking Chinese targets as Best Korean ones.
Can that artillery hit Beijing?
thats what the marines are for
I relish the day when we see SK Marines storming Beijing.
didn't the US shell bahgdad or some Iraqi installations with the USS Wisconsin? Battleship guns have pretty good range
Basra and the range is about 15 miles, compared to hundreds for ballistic missiles. Guns aren't irrelevant but they are for bombarding inland targets.
Their "arsenal" ship is only a few dozen missiles anyway, not what the US was calling an arsenal ship in the '80s (multiple hundreds of missiles)
it's cost effective if it can get North Korea to think the chinese are shooting at them. and since the missiles would come from the north they might be able to pull off such a ruse.
>An arsenal ship
yeah that's called a fucking missile boat you dumb bastards
This. Whatever news site this is from needs to be taught proper terminology with a fucking stun prod.
An Arsenal ship is a battleship-sized surface missile platform (pic related). We dont build those for the same reason we dont build actual battleships.
What you can see in the photograph is a missile boat.
> We dont build those for the same reason we dont build actual battleships.
Because we’re pussies?
We don't build them because ballistic missile submarines are way more effective. An arsenal ship, simply put is a giant conHispanicuous target.
Arsenal ships are among the most retarded concepts imaginable. You achieve the exact same thing with 4 or 5 guided missile destroyers without having all your (very expensive) eggs in one basket whilst being orders of magnitude more flexible to boot. Not to mention the logistics of building and maintaining those smaller ships is a significantly smaller burden.
If the radar is mounted on the ship then it makes sense, but then its a Cruiser.
How do we upload a worm cluster to defeat GW
>there's no way an "arsenal ship" is more cost effective than stationing land-based launchers, right?
Ships are very good and carrying heavy stuff a long way cheaply because they float on water. How do you plan on transporting the ammunition for your ground based launcher to any piece of coast anywhere in the world?
>2047 Missiles, AI swarm tech, flir and multispectral vehicle and individual detection have become so advanced an ICBM barrage of 20 missiles carrying 1000 tones of cooperation and loiter capable AI missile drones can wipe out every military vehicle, all military aircraft and naval vessels, key command and control, fuel storage and processing, ammunition dump and all critical government and military personnel while jamming all communications and seeking and destroying enemy radar and defense measures without a single unit even having to leave the attackers territory to support the assault. beyond the initial 20 ICBMs
Its a missile base that you can move. Its more expensive, but it has more utility.
Land based launchers can't dodge ballistic missiles
Ships move, which means those are harder to hit and can move to close range, in order to hit different targets