My friend lent me one CZ gun. And before I loaded anything into it. I dry fired a couple of times, just to feel the trigger.
It made a weird noise and a small piece of metal came out of it.
I bet this gun was already broken and now he will blame me for breaking it, and I will have to pay for this repair...
>larp thread
sure okay
They make aftermarket firing pins for these that don't break randomly, but you have to do a slight modification to the extractor that can be kinda scary.
You are a massive retard. The firing pin is on a notch which breaks dry firing on everything in the tokarev platform and its sister guns.
They still break on some aftermarket. Not all are forged.
Notch pins are for feild stripping.
Again its a notched firing pin they break dry firing unless forged.
I thought dry firing center fire guns was completely harmless? I've fucked up my .22 dry firing but I understand why since the firing pin mechanism is different. Should I not be dry firing certain centerfires/platforms or is anon a dumb moron?
>all centerfire guns work the same way
No, anon. You can't make that assumption. Most modern centerfire guns are safe to dry-fire but some are not. RTFM.
It's the CZ-52. Poor czech steel/heat-treating coupled with firing pin design optimized for cheapness and ease of manufacture. The tip can break off when the shoulders of the pin impact the front of the travel and it's not cushioned by hitting a cartridge.
Not true of all guns. Older CZs in particular are infamous for shitty firing pins, especially the CZ52.
OLD GUNS YOU DONT DRY FIRE
there I explained it like you're 70
as a rule of thumb I wouldn't dry fire anything old without a snap cap unless you specifically know its safe to dry fire
I had to replace the trigger reset spring on a surplus gun once. Guns can break especially if theyve seen decades of use.
Lmfao you broke its firing pin. They are notoriously brittle you can buy modern better made ones all over gunbroker has a ton always. You are an idiot and dont know as much about guns as you think. Do better and learn about what youre handling before you start fucking with it.
The CZ-52 is known for having particularly flimsy firing pins and shouldn't be dry fired. This is why you generally ask before dry firing somebody's gun if you don't know, just out of courtesy. By the sounds of things, you broke the firing pin.
Here's where you can order an upgraded one.
https://harringtonproducts.com/firing-pins/
You've got to replace some other part to make it actually stronger than a Tokarev, right?
>$45
There is no way dry firing can break a gun.
There has to be a way to prove it was already broken.
>There has to be a way to prove it was already broken.
There isn't because it wasn't. Stop being a cheap asshole.
I'm not pissing away my money on another dudes gun. Is there anything I can do to make it function so he doesn't notice right away?
No. The gun will not fire without a new firing pin.
Ill just gaslight him into thinking he gave me a broken gun. Thanks for nothing gay.
moron you are expecting people to unfuck a situation you made, man up gay.
Just use superglue, it will fire a couple of times.
You're a piece of shit I hope your "friend" beats the fuck out of you and pisses on your body gay
you broke it you fix it asshole
You can get original firing pins cheaper but he'll have the same problem of course.
>meet new friend
>borrow CZ 52
>break CZ 52
>ghost them
cycle repeats
The czwalker
There is a way dry firing can break a gun. It's a shitty gun. The Czechs themselves admitted it. CZ-52 was kind of a stopgap design while they debated what other pistol to go with, ultimately not doing anything until they adopted the CZ-82. It had a lot of problems that were acknowledged but not really corrected because it just wasn't considered important, one of which was a very fragile firing pin design which was addressed by instructing people to not dry fire them.
Now that they have been surplussed out and civilians have dicked with the design, aftermarket upgrade parts are available. This includes an upgraded, reinforced firing pin.
If you don't want to get one of those, an OEM military one is available for $20. The Czechs made spares because they knew this was a recurring problem.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/cz52-firing-pin-nos.html
Of course that part has the same problem as the one you broke. If somebody dry fires it later on, it'll break again. The bro thing to do would be to not only acknowledge your mistake, but offer to upgrade the gun so that it's not an issue going forward. The minimum is to acknowledge and offer to replace the part vis-a-vis.
You can deny that anything is wrong or that you dindu nuffin, but you know you fucked this one up. It's not that expensive or difficult to fix, just a matter of being a man and doing the right thing.
buy snap caps
>that cat
brings me back to my horn teen days on newgrounds
I remember this exact thread and gun.
Did you broke it again?
How many friends with cz52-s do you have?
can you repeat the bore extractor thread next it's been a while for that one and the replies are usually more creative
The CZ-52 was notorious for having poorly hardened stock firing pins that broke when dry firing. You used to be able to get a new drop in replacement that was much stronger.
The easy fix here is to just have 10 firing pins
How come a gun, that was probably made for military usage, can break by just dry firing?
I knew CZs were kinda crap, but not this crap.
The 52 had a troubled development, where they originally planned to make it in 9mm but had to re-design it in 7.62x25mm at the last minute to share ammunition with other Warsaw Pact countries. This design change was rushed despite requiring quite extensive re-engineering and when the gun was tested it did poorly, but was adopted as-is anyway on the belief that it would be replaced with a better one in only 5 years. In a stunning effort of communist central planning efficiency it was indeed replaced 30 years later.
On the whole the Czechs are superb engineers and firearms designers in particular, but communism has a way to fuck anything up.
Not exactly fair in ops case since every single notch stop in existence breaks without at the retention notch. Cz52 design wise is not actually bad or really that bad for the round it was redesigned for the issues end up being more around the rushed production cycle and missed scope for using submachine gun loads when refiting the military from the unreliable cz50. 7.62x25 is unwieldily in the cz52 but still fairly good ballistically. Again, for ops case though he would literally break anything with a notch stop/retained firing pin.
>I bet this gun was already broken and now he will blame me for breaking it, and I will have to pay for this repair...