There are 2 confirmed IGLA shootdowns caught on video. 0 piorun, 0 stinger, 0 starstreak. Why is the IGLA the greatest MANPADS ever produced?
There are 2 confirmed IGLA shootdowns caught on video. 0 piorun, 0 stinger, 0 starstreak. Why is the IGLA the greatest MANPADS ever produced?
That's clearly stinger though
It’s starstreak moron
>No cup of tea pictured.
Probably not.
3 videos of you include the cruise missile.
>0 piorun
there is a couple, you can distinguish them by the rocket pattern
>rocket pattern
Nope, not enough to go on. See OP screencap, that’s confirmation. Otherwise we would have to give stinger some kills if we’re going purely on rocket pattern.
Piorun is 100m/s faster than Igla moron they are easy to distinguish.
also it corrects the flight path constantly which makes it look like a wasp flying
>Stinger
Mostly straight flight path, gradual corrections
>Igla
Random spins that make sense only to the rocket
>Piorun
Wasp on meth, corrects every millisecond
>Starstreak
Can't see it
Pahaha he's so mad about stinger being shit he's trying to bring down the other manpads
>he can’t link just 1 video of piorun or starstreak being fired and intercepting a missile.
Sorry pavel
The burden of proof remains with the Stinger, multiple or videos or Starstreak/LMM out there.
>multiple or videos or Starstreak/LMM out there. the burden of proof lies with you. Post them if you want anyone to believe you
You aren’t qualified to measure grainy MANPADS videos by speed
1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XvZaA1arnzE
2. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u0kFqhDRXdY
3. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GxLDaQr1VuE 93rd that only uses Starstreak and LMM doesn't touch Stingers because they are ineffective.
4.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=briMNzHiSRc
5.https://m.youtube.com/shorts/r4J4_N2GS_4
6.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-xDPOxzZ9k
There are more but I cba spoon feeding you, also there are videos of the Stormer shooting down drones too picrel.
Those are all clearly Stinger missiles. Eurocucks BTFO.
BTFO
https://mobile.twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1497664470377664517
>Helicopter on fire
>Could be from literally anything
The state of your cope
.The guys who did it said stinger though. I am drinking your tears right now, we win, you lose, this proves it.
I purposely didn't post all the videos of shoot downs without the launcher in view, by your standards everything was killed by a Chinese manpad you can't prove other other. Imbecile.
It's clearly stinger though. They all are, you can tell because of the way it is.
>please believe this video of clear blue skys as a starstreak kill!!!
Nigel is getting desperate
>what is the black puff of smoke and the helicopter falling into the trees.
I'm sorry your eyes are malfunctioning like the seeker in a Stinger kek.
have a nice day warriortard
Also that shit was past its max range of 5km lmao
Something to be said about posted NATO range limits lmao. They mean 5km vert, it's likely longer horizontal
Stingergays btfo
Those are all stingers anon.
No, the burden of proof remains with the systems that haven't been proven yet.
The stinger is the most effective MANPADS ever devised in terms of sheer kill numbers. It's produced results in every conflict it's ever been used in, including this one, regardless of OP's moronic claims. Furthermore the Starstreak and Piorun SHOULD be producing better results, given that they're 20-30 years newer and supposed to replace the Stinger. Anything less is a complete embarrassment.
>Sheer kill numbers
Based on what? Self estimation of Afganis that cannot read or write? How stupid are you. The Strela/Igla series eclipses the Stinger In numbers produced, users and conflicts used in. It's basic numbers you simple man.
>Proof
Not a single Stinger video anywhere but multiple of other systems. Just show one video of the Stinger firing and hitting a target otherwise kindly frick off.
>Self estimation of Afganis that cannot read or write?
Much better than official Russian estimates. But even those admit the stinger raped the frick out of Hinds, soviets lost 330 helis in Afghanistan, most of which were stingers.
>The Strela/Igla series eclipses the Stinger In numbers produced, users and conflicts used in
But not kills. Really makes you think
>It's basic numbers you simple man.
You would think so, but numbers never reflect the absolute, overwhelming superiority of literally every piece of wester technology over its shitty garbage Soviet counterpart.
>Not a single Stinger video anywhere
Except every video posted in this thread, and the hundreds of videos that pop up when you type the words "stinger shoots down..." into Google. But you will claim that literally every single one was faked, because you literally have fulminant, unmedicated mental illness, and odds are tears of impotent rage are streaming down your cheeks as you reply to every post in the thread about a topic that lost people don't really care about, because you actually are an insane person who should be put into a mental institution. Unironically, you need to seek psychiatric help. This isn't healthy or normal.
>these statistics are based on Mujahideen self-reporting, which is of unknown reliability.
This is what your entire argument is built on. What a gullible idiot you are. Today it's pretty clear though how it went from a supposed wunderwaffen in Afganistan to an absaloute nobody in Ukraine eclipsed by all other systems.
Now do you have a video showing the launch and impact of a Stinger in Ukraine or anywhere for that matter?
Every occasion of MANPADS killing aircraft besides less than 20 videos is based on self reporting
Why is OP that homosexual that gets btfo'd in a random thread about X then has to dedicate a thread to trying to claw back anything he can. It's an annonymous board, just move on.
This could very well be Grom or Piorun they look the same.
True, none are the Stinger though its just that bad.
I’ve seen 3 confirmed IGLA videos. Can someone post a 4th? It can’t only have 3 confirmed kills right? Stinger was doing that daily in the 80s
>Stinger was doing that daily in the 80s
Proof other than mahmoods donkey said So? If not don't even bother replying.
>please drop cel phone videos from the 80s
kek thirdies absolutely seething right now. Stinger has confirmed shootdowns in over 8 conflicts
>falklands
https://en.mercopress.com/2002/04/12/argentine-puma-shot-down-by-american-stinger-missile#prof
>afghanistan
https://huji-primo.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/search?vid=972HUJI_V1&sortby=rank&lang=iw_ILRecord/HUJ001254812 (From soviet source lmao)
>Libya invasion of chad
https://warisboring.com/the-ghost-plane-of-faya-largeau/
>Tajikistan
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/centralasia/uzbek-airforce.htm
>Chechnya
https://web.archive.org/web/20090129141108/http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/3-2002/ac/raowdsmcc/
>Sri lanka
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=141721
Based. What a storied career
Truly Stinger is the most proven and historically significant MANPADS.
Not a single video or proof. Also the SAS Criticised how bad it was out of 8 missiles fired only 2 hit, one was the stationary puma.
It doesn’t need video. There’s been plenty of things to happen throughout history that is widely accepted but lack video. If only video mattered then the IGLA would only have 3 confirmed kills
It's shit, every other system has proof but that piece or shit. I'm sorry you fell for a meme
See
Confirmed by the Ukrainians who used it. nearing 400 confirmed kills under stingers belt lifetime
We are going on visual proof that's the point of the thread don't move the goal posts homosexual. Show me some stinger shootdowns or frick off.
Every shootdown ITT has been a stinger shootdown.
You haven’t posted any but IGLA. The posted 5 videos of starstreak, 2 of which were the same from different angles, none of which showed an aircraft going down
>It's shit
>W-why? Because it just is, take my word for it!!!
If only saying it would make it so.
>no proof
>SAS users confirm it kills 2 aircraft
lmao
>Takes 8 missiles to kill a hovering helicopter and a prop plane
>Britain chose not to adopt it
It's shit.
I’m sorry 2 confirmed kills in the falklands war. Based
I'm gonna' have to call proofs on this one.
It's sad you can't show me one (1) video of a Stinger being fired and hitting something from any point in history.
You cannot refute this.
Every video posted ITT is Stinger though.
The proofs will never be strong enough for him, you could be proofing him in the face with your fists right now and he would never believe it.
Damn I didn’t know how much the stinger was actually used. I thought all of its kills came from afghanistan. Neat
Can anyone find an english instruction manual? or even a russian one?
More stinger kills
Confirmed by Ukrainian MOD
https://sys.PrepHole.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdefenceu%2Fstatus%2F1517216777423536130%3Fs%3D46%26amp%3Bt%3DhFGCLJbPUHgf5MoiYz1dlg
https://mobile.twitter.com/defenceu/status/1537808534527778819?s=46&t=hFGCLJbPUHgf5MoiYz1dlg
Oh my god he's just spamming helicopters on fire kek NO PROOF OF A STINGER ANYWHERE.
Ukrainian MOD confirms it. Stinger #1.
Where is the Stinger footage, broken Strelas from Germany have more kills.
All of the videos ITT are stinger, sorry you didn't know.
Why is there random autistic rage towards the stinger? I really don't understand
America bad. Soviet number one
In case you didn't realize it, this is a troll thread designed specifically to antagonize people like the idiots who are responding to it.
Unwashed thirdies pretending to be white and seething at the United States of America, rightful leader of the free and civilized world.
Here's how it works:
Step 1:Troll makes outrageous claims in OP.
Step 2: Idiots gobble it up and start posting to prove OP wrong.
Step 3:OP will accept no proof that he is wrong, ever.
Step 4: Idiots keep getting enraged, trying continually to prove OP wrong, meanwhile OP is laughing his ass off in front of his computer at all the idiots white-knighting for a fricking MANPADS system because some random dude on the internet maligned it.
Wrong.
>1: OP makes dumb post
>2: Anons come through to laugh at it and correct the record for the ignorant, between posting in regular comfy threads and IRL shit.
>3: "Haha, I was only pretending to be moronic! Gotcha, didn't I??"
No, OP. You didn"t get anyone.
Ukrainians have VR simulators for IGLA
theres probably 4x more iglas than anything else. it's just a numbers game, all have similar performance
its not. They just have most IGLAs so they record IGLA shot downs the most times
Dumb frogposter.
From what I can tell Stingers and Starstreaks were incredibly prevalent during the first months of the war; when western Nato countries rushed them out like mad, along with long-obsolete Strela's. Chances are that a good bit of their Stinger stock has simply been depleted and the Strela's honestly just weren't doing that much work.
As for Starstreak? Well for Ukraine's ends starstreak is probably the most potent missile, due to how disproportionately often they have to deal with high speed objects flying in MANPADS range, but knowing the British they only send a handful and once they send in the Stormers, they pretty much only got new ammo for those which have been spending their time providing terminal phase protection against cruise missiles.
Poirun is the most modern and versatile of the bunch and has been BTFOing Russia's more modern systems like the KA52 and the SU34, but even Poland only ever had 1300 of these to give away. Doubt they've given Ukraine that many.
On account of Ukraine having a large amount to begin with, the Russians leaving enough arms to mobilize Moldovia when retreating from Kharkiv and Izium, as well as the later donations from the Czechs, Poles and others, the Igla is probably just the most numerous system atm
So the general understanding is the Stinger is seriously being out performed by every other MANPAD on the market.
That's not a Stinger shoot down video?
Why can't they provide a single video from such an old weapon system? Could it have been a meme all along?!
Did you just reply to your own post?
hahahahha
lads
thats so funny
the american version of tea is Black person cum
like little teapots full of Black person cum
hahahahaha
im fricking crying
Stinger has 0 confirmed shoot downs on camera, what an embarresment.
Because there are more IGLA in Ukraine than anything else?
>what is probability
>0 piorun, 0 stinger, 0 starstreak.
All kino
Who got that cruise missile the vatBlack folk sent over? Stinger or igla? Maybe it was an s300 Black person rigged for surface strike but it was a damn lucky occurance and saving a playground or foot bridge must be worth something.
There's a video of a stinger shooting down a cruise missile from a few months ago and a recent video of a stinger shooting down something.