>the vast majority of shots taken are suppressing fire
>that bounding overwatch
>makes people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
>features great sound and realistic weapon handling
Is there a better realistic shootout scene in a work of fiction than the street shootout in Heat?
Pacino handles his rig like a no guns.
>Pacino
Al should have retired after Scatface
every move he's ever done since then is the same frickign character
SHE GOTTA BIG ASS
AND YOU GOT YOUR HEAD,RIGHT UP IT!
this is the kind of shit that ruined the movie for me.
wtf was the director too chcicken shit to rein this in?
it serves no purpose. its just pachinko doing pachinko under some internal delusion hes some kind of acting genius
As if old dudes don't act like this in real life. Does it trigger your lil zoomer feels?
why do I want to see Al Pachinko playing a stereotypical old dude instead of acting
he was supposed to be a cokehead
Yep - Pacino's overacting made more sense until they cut that out.
>You can get killed WALKING YO DOGGIE!
yeah too bad nothing in the movie even remotely eluded to that
everything he does is eluding to it. it just never explicitly shows him actually sniffing coke. it was in the script and pacino has talking about his character being a cokehead.
> Stole every scene in Glengarry Glen Ross
> Pulled off real warmth in Scent of a Woman
> Toned down the screaming for Insider, because you fricking have to bring your A game if you're sharing a scene with Christopher Plumber
> Only one yelling outburst in Insomnia, and then just slowly implodes for the rest of the film
That was pretty much it though.
I think his over the topness was fine in devils advocate.
Then what is it called the recruit? That was fine.
TAKE THAT BACK YOU wienerSUCKA
He handles his rig like an LAPD detective who spends 99% of his time doing (minimal, since he's actually competent) business on the job with his 9mm Smith and not an FNC.
The whole thing was he was an ex MUHREEN from nam or some shit.
Shit I watched this movie a shit ton and I missed that.
I'm pretty sure John Voight's character mentions it when he is telling de niro about pachino.
He doesn't specifically mention nam I don't think, but the ages/time imply nam or maybe korea.
>pachino
>Pachino
WHAT'S MY NAME?
>The Pomodoro di Pachino (Italian: [pomoˈdɔːro di paˈkiːno]; English: Tomato of Pachino) is an IGP/PGI for tomatoes from the southeast coast of Sicily, Italy, which has been granted IGP protection by the EU since 2003.
>Al Pachinko
So a war that ended 20 years before the events of the movie took place, back when infantry didn't get anywhere near the amount of high speed training they do today?
Wasnt that De Niro's character?
Weapon handling and choreography was done by two Brit ex SF blokes.
Don't forget that the director thought the sound effects that the studio put on top of it was trash, so he had them change it back to the originally recorded audio of the blanks. That's why the sound echos like it does, it's the actual on location sound rather than some tacked on fake shit.
How the frick can the director go from the epic sounds from heat to the dicked up muted sound effects in Miami Vice?
Collateral was his last good flick
I fricking LOVE the way this movie looks. Something about the cameras or whatever it's super unique.
HD video cameras shot with almost natural night, video gain skyhigh and video noise up the wazoo. Difference is, while analog video noise (VHS "shot on shiteo") mushes everything up, digital video noise is still sharp.
Miami Vice was pure kino
Last shootout fricking sucked tho I blame it on Jamie Foxx that made the director change the ending because he didn't want to go to Paraguay
Goddamn the 50.61 is one of the best looking FAL's around.
>"He was makin a move"
I specifically built an AR exactly like this one. Slickside a1, pencil barrel, lightweight as frick. Very comfy.
A2 furniture with a pencil and 604 upper does seem like fun
too bad this movie was trash though
get out
HEAT forces you to sit through almost 3 hours for about as many worthwhile scenes. An edit with 60 minutes of extraneous bullshit (like the whole mess with Pacino and his daughter) cut out *might* be worth the effort, though.
>I fricking hate character development
ok autismo
You're kinda right, den of thieves was a better remake.
>De Niro decides to shoot waingro in the middle of downtown LA rather than stab him/restrain him in the trunk and end his somewhere else
>super sweome gun handling criminal doesn't secure, watch, or even put his fricking foot on waingro
>this is the single point that causes the shitshow at the end
>reloads once after firing 100 rounds from a 30 round magazine
Meh, i wouldnt call it trash,but i have to admit that i was disapointed since i had high expectations of it. If anything its overrated.
Ronin is much better all around.
So true anon, so true literally every moron boomer likes it.
I've never even watched it.
>Sarah Silverman getting her c**t nose shoved in
Now at least I have a reason.
This, eveyone praises it for the same one or two scenes but the rest is fricking boring.
The production itself is good but the story is meh there's a reason no one really talks about the film outside of the realistic action scenes and the ending
people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
This describes my response when I watched it years ago perfectly.
Way of the gun is pretty fricking good.
>Way of the Gun
I need to watch this, sounds cool
You absolutely do.
It was in theatres for like a couple days in 2000. I saw it at the ghetto ass late showing thinking it was gonna be like Swingers or something. Holy hell! They were using legit fricking tactics and dirty tricks. Id never seen that before in a movie. I dont mean like Platoon or Ful Metal Jacket. I mean like shit that people actually do.
Even then gunplay notwithstanding, its just kino AF.
I think it's highly underrated, but easy to overrate. The shot count outside the clinic tells more than actually showing the gun play. I really liked the trophy wife lurking, that was spot on. The voice over monologue, usually a technique to bring up a shit movie, works perfectly in this case. The explaination of how to play Hearts and Juliette Lewis' response was classic. And it was nice to see her opposite her father, but never in the same scene. Lines like
>karma is justice, but without the satisfaction
Are so much better than overused tropes by Sun Tzu. And there are so many more quotables, if you can dig my matriculations, baby.
The best part of that movie was Sarah Silverman getting her c**t nose shoved in
You may be interested to know that Ryan Phillippe actually punched Sarah Silverman in one of the takes (admittedly it was an accident, but still) which makes it even better
Just watched the movoe based on your recommendation and it's absolute fricking /k/ino. It's a crime this movie isn't more well known.
Also, James Caan being the OG Mike from Breaking Bad
10/10 had me at the edge of my seat and the gun play is phenomenal. Thank you, based /k/omrade in arms.
Saw in theater on a date. First time I ever fingered a girl
>First time I ever fingered a girl
did she came
>first time
lol I didn't know wtf I was doing
I'll always have a soft spot for that movie though
Sounds like you found a soft spot DURING the movie
😀
best non war /k/ movie imo
I just liked that razormind edit because the sound of gunfire excites me lol.
Later Mann films like collateral and Miami vice have better shootouts.
I like Heat but I can only watch it like every few years or so.
It isnt a perfect movie.
Way of the Gun was great. Its almost a road movie. We never find out too much about Parker and Longbaugh because we dont need to.
My only gripe is they didnt stagger the rounds when he shoots through the wall with the 308 Galil
>I like Heat but I can only watch it like every few years or so.
>It isn't a perfect movie.
same tbh. but my biggest problem with it is Al Pachinko playing Al Pachinko
>Way of the Gun
I still have never watched this movie yet.
The film plods along with the weird relationship scenes between Pachino and his literally-who-cares girlfriend. I know it was to add a depth to his character but let's be real, it bogged down the pacing immensely
It was just 30minutes too long.
Didnt need to see their marriages
Didnt need to see Natalie Portman attempt suicide
The Diner meet up was over hyped
It just needed better pacing. It has some kino moments but it has a lot of parts begging to be fast forwarded through
Feel old yet?
I like how Tom Noonan isn't even listed.
He's looked old as shit since the movie came out.
A great movie.
I know him best from Robocop 2 and What Happened Was
>when your adrenochrome supply is cut off
>Feel old yet?
oof. too many feels.
> all my heroes and idols are old or already dead, and my enemies are in power
>Val Kilmer and Tom Sizemore are 2 years apart
>Sizemore did massive amounts of drugs
>still looks a decade younger than Kilmer
Bros is cocaine a youthful drug?
Val Kilmer is riddled with cancer
The more I watch it, the more Pachino fricking ruins it.
>It means you got eyes like apostrophes, you dress white, talk black, and drive israelite. So how am I supposed to know what kind of zipperhead dog-munching dink you are if you don't?
Yo. D'you know who the frick we are?
>Yeah. You're a couple panheads buyin' a machine gun out of a trunk.
>tfw no FN FNC
>TFW you forget he's even in the movie then all the sudden becomes a plot point
I was surprised he gotta away. Most films would've had his ass killed
I mean, he didn't get away unscathed. If I remember correctly, he took a round through one of his shoulders or collarbones
the moral of his character arc is that nothing can stop a couple that choose to be loyal to eachother.
Is it just a myth that the US Army shows this exact clip to recruits because the way he reloads the rifle is perfect?
Refer to
What a moron standing up to shoot exposing himself instead of just shooting through the car windows.
Two reasons for doing so; to afford visual confirmation of where the targets are,and also,shooting through windows can affect the aim of the round.
The car window will be gone after a mag or so and it's not like he's aiming at all anyhow with how high he is pointing the gun.
And anyway if the car window doesn't work then he should fire past the car. Standing up in the open like a moron is just a surefire way to get yourself killed.
>car window will be gone after a mag or so
Being in that situation of being cornered,the best course of action is obviously to waste ammunition destroying a window.
>not like he’s aiming at all anyhow
You do,understand the concept and purpose of suppressive fire?
>Standing up in the open like a moron is just a
>sure fire way to get yourself killed.
You do,understand the idea of being dominant,and suppressing your opposition?
To do so,you have to see where they are,what is going on,where they are moving to.
It’s known as situational awareness,specifically for this situation,battlespace appreciation.
They are cornered,trapped.
They have to extract as fast as possible.
To do so,they have to suppress the LAPD.
That’s what they did,and tried to do.
They had limited ammunition.
Attack is the best form of defense,which they did.
Tell me how i know you have absolutely zero knowledge or experience pertaining to this thread?
Keep watching movies,you’ll learn a lot.
If he's just suppressing them then why does it matter that you get a bit of spread from hitting the glass?
But anyhow if you aren't able to realize that standing up straight is the absolute worst possible thing to do there then I can't help you. There's cars there, peek out of the side, alternating sides etc.
Can't see anything down there in the dirt, you aren't getting out of there by staying in cover. They were trying to maul the LAPD in one place of their perimeter bad enough to break the encirclement and escape.
You have totally,and utterly,failed,to comprehend the whole point of my post.
Read my post.
Understand,and comprehend it,fully.
I now appreciate,that there’s frick all chance of you doing so.
Well done,Cleetus.
Anon you forgot one thing!
The proper response to an ambush is immediate, violent counterattack.
So, not Uvalde?
Those small children knew the risks when they went to school, It’s part and parcel of being a poli- American student. No one should ever have to go to work and worry about being shot, that’s what we have schools for.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS KWEEEEEEEEEN SLAY
Read my post.
Read it again.
Then read it again.
Pretty simple.
Much like yourself,obviously.
I
Saw it
Redditor
Reddit?
>just shooting through the car windows.
noguns detected, opinion rejected.
Seconded.
5.56 destabilizes after hitting objects almost guaranteed every time, especially something like tempered windows on a car
Blows lungs out, right Joe?
I’d imagine so actually
True.
Not as heavy a round as 7.62/.308
5.56 is intended to wound rather than kill or destroy objects.
Because that would break the window moron
I crank this movie up on surround during the summer with the doors open during the shoot-out scene to frick with people. A neighbor down the block actually reported a shooting and the sheriff's department showed up
Cappuccino ruined it
Not "The most realistic" but I also fricking love this gunfight. It starts a bit bland a la "point prop guns at enemies while screaming screaming" hollywood levels but only gets better once they get outof the stairwell.
The suppressed HK416 also just sounds hella satisfying.
My favorite movie gunfight that is ultra realistic is the airport scene in John Wick 2
They HAD to have purposely added that in to frick with actual gun guys lmao
I thought that was a 1970’s Italian crime exploitation film with how that pic looked
You tried watching Ronin or Den of Thieves?
>ou tried watching Ronin
>European car chases
Thx, but saw it. Why can't euros do a good car chase?
Even today,those sequences are still recognised as some of the better,if not some of the best ever,put to screen.
How was this done?
Miniature microphones placed around and inside the vehicles.
You missed the graunched gears in the BMW then?
Elite Squad beats the living shit out of HEAT and anything else to ooze out of ~~*hollywood*~~.
The 2nd one is kinda gay, so you can skip it.
Based
Also the second one is also kino just more lore focused
yeah that looked shit.
>some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks
>preachy bullshit
This looks fricking moronic.
bullshit
>This looks fricking moronic.
t. pothead
>only a pothead wouldn't like a movie involving some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks
No, your movie is just moronic and you are as well.
The people who finance it are the people who decide it should continue to be illegal
Crazy how all the crime around bootlegging just stopped after prohibition ended, I wonder why
>>some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks
It's actually the opposite, Cap frick hims up because he did that
He also dies
Have you ever shot a pistol at a moving target at intermediate range? I guarantee you havent.
>ywn (I mean never ever) be operatin innafavela with a huey overhead
> makes people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
I’m fairly sure they kill about a half dozen cops in this shootout, though only 2 are shown on screen. I’ve never heard anyone complain about the shootout, either (but I think it was stupid that they don’t put on masks until after they get in to the bank).
>stupid that they don’t put on masks until
>after they get into the bank
Reason they didn’t is because the idea was to take the bank from inside; walking into the bank with masks already on gives security a few seconds warning.
Don’t forget,the bank was their last ‘big one’ before disappearing completely,even from each other,as agreed earlier in the movie.
Wether they were recognised or not would make no difference,hence the speed at extracting from the robbery,then within hours disappearing.
>Is there a better realistic shootout scene in a work of fiction than the street shootout in Heat?
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