>the vast majority of shots taken are suppressing fire. >that bounding overwatch

>the vast majority of shots taken are suppressing fire
>that bounding overwatch
>makes people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
>features great sound and realistic weapon handling
Is there a better realistic shootout scene in a work of fiction than the street shootout in Heat?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pacino handles his rig like a no guns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Pacino
      Al should have retired after Scatface
      every move he's ever done since then is the same fuckign character

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        SHE GOTTA BIG ASS

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          AND YOU GOT YOUR HEAD,RIGHT UP IT!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this is the kind of shit that ruined the movie for me.
            wtf was the director too chcicken shit to rein this in?
            it serves no purpose. its just pachinko doing pachinko under some internal delusion hes some kind of acting genius

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              As if old dudes don't act like this in real life. Does it trigger your lil zoomer feels?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why do I want to see Al Pachinko playing a stereotypical old dude instead of acting

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              he was supposed to be a cokehead

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yep - Pacino's overacting made more sense until they cut that out.
                >You can get killed WALKING YO DOGGIE!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah too bad nothing in the movie even remotely eluded to that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                everything he does is eluding to it. it just never explicitly shows him actually sniffing coke. it was in the script and pacino has talking about his character being a cokehead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Stole every scene in Glengarry Glen Ross
        > Pulled off real warmth in Scent of a Woman
        > Toned down the screaming for Insider, because you fucking have to bring your A game if you're sharing a scene with Christopher Plumber
        > Only one yelling outburst in Insomnia, and then just slowly implodes for the rest of the film
        That was pretty much it though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think his over the topness was fine in devils advocate.
          Then what is it called the recruit? That was fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        TAKE THAT BACK YOU COCKSUCKA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He handles his rig like an LAPD detective who spends 99% of his time doing (minimal, since he's actually competent) business on the job with his 9mm Smith and not an FNC.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The whole thing was he was an ex MUHREEN from nam or some shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shit I watched this movie a shit ton and I missed that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm pretty sure John Voight's character mentions it when he is telling de niro about pachino.
            He doesn't specifically mention nam I don't think, but the ages/time imply nam or maybe korea.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >pachino

              The more I watch it, the more Pachino fucking ruins it.

              >Pachino

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                WHAT'S MY NAME?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The Pomodoro di Pachino (Italian: [pomoˈdɔːro di paˈkiːno]; English: Tomato of Pachino) is an IGP/PGI for tomatoes from the southeast coast of Sicily, Italy, which has been granted IGP protection by the EU since 2003.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Al Pachinko

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So a war that ended 20 years before the events of the movie took place, back when infantry didn't get anywhere near the amount of high speed training they do today?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wasnt that De Niro's character?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Weapon handling and choreography was done by two Brit ex SF blokes.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget that the director thought the sound effects that the studio put on top of it was trash, so he had them change it back to the originally recorded audio of the blanks. That's why the sound echos like it does, it's the actual on location sound rather than some tacked on fake shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How the fuck can the director go from the epic sounds from heat to the dicked up muted sound effects in Miami Vice?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Collateral was his last good flick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I fucking LOVE the way this movie looks. Something about the cameras or whatever it's super unique.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          HD video cameras shot with almost natural night, video gain skyhigh and video noise up the wazoo. Difference is, while analog video noise (VHS "shot on shiteo") mushes everything up, digital video noise is still sharp.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Miami Vice was pure kino
        Last shootout fucking sucked tho I blame it on Jamie Foxx that made the director change the ending because he didn't want to go to Paraguay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Goddamn the 50.61 is one of the best looking FAL's around.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"He was makin a move"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I specifically built an AR exactly like this one. Slickside a1, pencil barrel, lightweight as fuck. Very comfy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A2 furniture with a pencil and 604 upper does seem like fun

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    too bad this movie was trash though

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      get out

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/bbmFKGb.jpg

        HEAT forces you to sit through almost 3 hours for about as many worthwhile scenes. An edit with 60 minutes of extraneous bullshit (like the whole mess with Pacino and his daughter) cut out *might* be worth the effort, though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I fucking hate character development
          ok autismo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're kinda right, den of thieves was a better remake.
      >De Niro decides to shoot waingro in the middle of downtown LA rather than stab him/restrain him in the trunk and end his somewhere else
      >super sweome gun handling criminal doesn't secure, watch, or even put his fucking foot on waingro
      >this is the single point that causes the shitshow at the end

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >reloads once after firing 100 rounds from a 30 round magazine

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meh, i wouldnt call it trash,but i have to admit that i was disapointed since i had high expectations of it. If anything its overrated.
      Ronin is much better all around.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So true anon, so true literally every retard boomer likes it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've never even watched it.

        The best part of that movie was Sarah Silverman getting her cunt nose shoved in

        >Sarah Silverman getting her cunt nose shoved in
        Now at least I have a reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, eveyone praises it for the same one or two scenes but the rest is fucking boring.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The production itself is good but the story is meh there's a reason no one really talks about the film outside of the realistic action scenes and the ending

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
    This describes my response when I watched it years ago perfectly.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Way of the gun is pretty fucking good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like Heat but I can only watch it like every few years or so.
      It isnt a perfect movie.

      Way of the Gun was great. Its almost a road movie. We never find out too much about Parker and Longbaugh because we dont need to.
      My only gripe is they didnt stagger the rounds when he shoots through the wall with the 308 Galil

      >Way of the Gun
      I need to watch this, sounds cool

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You absolutely do.
        It was in theatres for like a couple days in 2000. I saw it at the ghetto ass late showing thinking it was gonna be like Swingers or something. Holy hell! They were using legit fucking tactics and dirty tricks. Id never seen that before in a movie. I dont mean like Platoon or Ful Metal Jacket. I mean like shit that people actually do.
        Even then gunplay notwithstanding, its just kino AF.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >Way of the Gun
      I need to watch this, sounds cool

      You absolutely do.
      It was in theatres for like a couple days in 2000. I saw it at the ghetto ass late showing thinking it was gonna be like Swingers or something. Holy hell! They were using legit fucking tactics and dirty tricks. Id never seen that before in a movie. I dont mean like Platoon or Ful Metal Jacket. I mean like shit that people actually do.
      Even then gunplay notwithstanding, its just kino AF.

      I think it's highly underrated, but easy to overrate. The shot count outside the clinic tells more than actually showing the gun play. I really liked the trophy wife lurking, that was spot on. The voice over monologue, usually a technique to bring up a shit movie, works perfectly in this case. The explaination of how to play Hearts and Juliette Lewis' response was classic. And it was nice to see her opposite her father, but never in the same scene. Lines like
      >karma is justice, but without the satisfaction
      Are so much better than overused tropes by Sun Tzu. And there are so many more quotables, if you can dig my matriculations, baby.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The best part of that movie was Sarah Silverman getting her cunt nose shoved in

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You may be interested to know that Ryan Phillippe actually punched Sarah Silverman in one of the takes (admittedly it was an accident, but still) which makes it even better

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just watched the movoe based on your recommendation and it's absolute fucking PrepHoleino. It's a crime this movie isn't more well known.
      Also, James Caan being the OG Mike from Breaking Bad
      10/10 had me at the edge of my seat and the gun play is phenomenal. Thank you, based PrepHoleomrade in arms.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Saw in theater on a date. First time I ever fingered a girl

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >First time I ever fingered a girl
        did she came

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >first time
          lol I didn't know wtf I was doing
          I'll always have a soft spot for that movie though

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like you found a soft spot DURING the movie
            😀

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      best non war PrepHole movie imo

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just liked that razormind edit because the sound of gunfire excites me lol.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Later Mann films like collateral and Miami vice have better shootouts.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like Heat but I can only watch it like every few years or so.
    It isnt a perfect movie.

    Way of the Gun was great. Its almost a road movie. We never find out too much about Parker and Longbaugh because we dont need to.
    My only gripe is they didnt stagger the rounds when he shoots through the wall with the 308 Galil

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I like Heat but I can only watch it like every few years or so.
      >It isn't a perfect movie.
      same tbh. but my biggest problem with it is Al Pachinko playing Al Pachinko

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Way of the Gun
      I still have never watched this movie yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The film plods along with the weird relationship scenes between Pachino and his literally-who-cares girlfriend. I know it was to add a depth to his character but let's be real, it bogged down the pacing immensely

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was just 30minutes too long.
        Didnt need to see their marriages
        Didnt need to see Natalie Portman attempt suicide
        The Diner meet up was over hyped

        It just needed better pacing. It has some kino moments but it has a lot of parts begging to be fast forwarded through

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Feel old yet?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like how Tom Noonan isn't even listed.
      He's looked old as shit since the movie came out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A great movie.
          I know him best from Robocop 2 and What Happened Was

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >when your adrenochrome supply is cut off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Feel old yet?
      oof. too many feels.
      > all my heroes and idols are old or already dead, and my enemies are in power

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Val Kilmer and Tom Sizemore are 2 years apart
      >Sizemore did massive amounts of drugs
      >still looks a decade younger than Kilmer
      Bros is cocaine a youthful drug?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Val Kilmer is riddled with cancer

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The more I watch it, the more Pachino fucking ruins it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >It means you got eyes like apostrophes, you dress white, talk black, and drive garden gnome. So how am I supposed to know what kind of zipperhead dog-munching dink you are if you don't?
    Yo. D'you know who the fuck we are?
    >Yeah. You're a couple panheads buyin' a machine gun out of a trunk.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no FN FNC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >TFW you forget he's even in the movie then all the sudden becomes a plot point

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was surprised he gotta away. Most films would've had his ass killed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, he didn't get away unscathed. If I remember correctly, he took a round through one of his shoulders or collarbones

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the moral of his character arc is that nothing can stop a couple that choose to be loyal to eachother.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it just a myth that the US Army shows this exact clip to recruits because the way he reloads the rifle is perfect?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Refer to

        Weapon handling and choreography was done by two Brit ex SF blokes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/7gC4Qw9.jpg

      >the vast majority of shots taken are suppressing fire
      >that bounding overwatch
      >makes people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
      >features great sound and realistic weapon handling
      Is there a better realistic shootout scene in a work of fiction than the street shootout in Heat?

      What a retard standing up to shoot exposing himself instead of just shooting through the car windows.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Two reasons for doing so; to afford visual confirmation of where the targets are,and also,shooting through windows can affect the aim of the round.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The car window will be gone after a mag or so and it's not like he's aiming at all anyhow with how high he is pointing the gun.
          And anyway if the car window doesn't work then he should fire past the car. Standing up in the open like a retard is just a surefire way to get yourself killed.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >car window will be gone after a mag or so
            Being in that situation of being cornered,the best course of action is obviously to waste ammunition destroying a window.
            >not like he’s aiming at all anyhow
            You do,understand the concept and purpose of suppressive fire?
            >Standing up in the open like a retard is just a
            >sure fire way to get yourself killed.
            You do,understand the idea of being dominant,and suppressing your opposition?
            To do so,you have to see where they are,what is going on,where they are moving to.
            It’s known as situational awareness,specifically for this situation,battlespace appreciation.
            They are cornered,trapped.
            They have to extract as fast as possible.
            To do so,they have to suppress the LAPD.
            That’s what they did,and tried to do.
            They had limited ammunition.
            Attack is the best form of defense,which they did.

            Tell me how i know you have absolutely zero knowledge or experience pertaining to this thread?
            Keep watching movies,you’ll learn a lot.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If he's just suppressing them then why does it matter that you get a bit of spread from hitting the glass?
              But anyhow if you aren't able to realize that standing up straight is the absolute worst possible thing to do there then I can't help you. There's cars there, peek out of the side, alternating sides etc.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can't see anything down there in the dirt, you aren't getting out of there by staying in cover. They were trying to maul the LAPD in one place of their perimeter bad enough to break the encirclement and escape.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You have totally,and utterly,failed,to comprehend the whole point of my post.
                Read my post.
                Understand,and comprehend it,fully.

                I now appreciate,that there’s fuck all chance of you doing so.
                Well done,Cleetus.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon you forgot one thing!
              The proper response to an ambush is immediate, violent counterattack.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So, not Uvalde?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those small children knew the risks when they went to school, It’s part and parcel of being a poli- American student. No one should ever have to go to work and worry about being shot, that’s what we have schools for.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS KWEEEEEEEEEN SLAY

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Read my post.
                Read it again.
                Then read it again.
                Pretty simple.
                Much like yourself,obviously.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I
                Saw it
                Redditor

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Reddit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just shooting through the car windows.

        noguns detected, opinion rejected.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Seconded.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        5.56 destabilizes after hitting objects almost guaranteed every time, especially something like tempered windows on a car

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Blows lungs out, right Joe?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I’d imagine so actually

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          True.
          Not as heavy a round as 7.62/.308
          5.56 is intended to wound rather than kill or destroy objects.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because that would break the window retard

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I crank this movie up on surround during the summer with the doors open during the shoot-out scene to fuck with people. A neighbor down the block actually reported a shooting and the sheriff's department showed up

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cappuccino ruined it

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not "The most realistic" but I also fucking love this gunfight. It starts a bit bland a la "point prop guns at enemies while screaming screaming" hollywood levels but only gets better once they get outof the stairwell.
    The suppressed HK416 also just sounds hella satisfying.

  18. 1 month ago
    Journalism LMAO

    My favorite movie gunfight that is ultra realistic is the airport scene in John Wick 2

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They HAD to have purposely added that in to fuck with actual gun guys lmao

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I thought that was a 1970’s Italian crime exploitation film with how that pic looked

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You tried watching Ronin or Den of Thieves?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ou tried watching Ronin
      >European car chases
      Thx, but saw it. Why can't euros do a good car chase?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even today,those sequences are still recognised as some of the better,if not some of the best ever,put to screen.
        How was this done?
        Miniature microphones placed around and inside the vehicles.
        You missed the graunched gears in the BMW then?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Elite Squad beats the living shit out of HEAT and anything else to ooze out of ~~*hollywood*~~.

    The 2nd one is kinda gay, so you can skip it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based
      Also the second one is also kino just more lore focused

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah that looked shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks

          >preachy bullshit
          This looks fucking retarded.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bullshit
            >This looks fucking retarded.
            t. pothead

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >only a pothead wouldn't like a movie involving some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks
              No, your movie is just retarded and you are as well.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The people who finance it are the people who decide it should continue to be illegal
              Crazy how all the crime around bootlegging just stopped after prohibition ended, I wonder why

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >>some guy running around in the open with 3-4 guys shooting at him but they can't hit him because he's a hero character and they're mooks
            It's actually the opposite, Cap fuck hims up because he did that
            He also dies

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever shot a pistol at a moving target at intermediate range? I guarantee you havent.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ywn (I mean never ever) be operatin innafavela with a huey overhead

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > makes people who expect realistic shootouts lasting a minute or more to mainly involve bullets intended to hit a specific person seethe because they sat through a 3 hour movie for that
    I’m fairly sure they kill about a half dozen cops in this shootout, though only 2 are shown on screen. I’ve never heard anyone complain about the shootout, either (but I think it was stupid that they don’t put on masks until after they get in to the bank).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >stupid that they don’t put on masks until
      >after they get into the bank
      Reason they didn’t is because the idea was to take the bank from inside; walking into the bank with masks already on gives security a few seconds warning.
      Don’t forget,the bank was their last ‘big one’ before disappearing completely,even from each other,as agreed earlier in the movie.
      Wether they were recognised or not would make no difference,hence the speed at extracting from the robbery,then within hours disappearing.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a better realistic shootout scene in a work of fiction than the street shootout in Heat?

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