The US military should have kept the M1911 for prestige reasons.

The US military should have kept the M1911 for prestige reasons. Even if it is outclassed by 9mms or whatever, it doesn't really matter the gap is not that big and the pistol is a weapon of last resort anyway. Frankly if you're down to your pistol you're probably as well surrendering. They could tell modern soldiers that their gun has been in service for over 100 years, that's pretty cool and more than makes up for whatever marginal advantages you'd get from something else

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The military shouldn't issue pistols at all, just ammunition. If you want to carry one then that's on you.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The trannies in USA troonyforce don't have enough strength (physical and mental) to handle such a weapon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sorry this is your ceremonial pistol now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why is it so FUKKEN UGLY????

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it doesn't really matter the gap is not that big and the pistol is a weapon of last resort anyway.
    Through same reasoning and using same metric, the army should not have adopted 1911 (or at least in .45 caliber) in the first place.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >six shot revolver vs 7 round semi-automatic
        >.38 ACP vs .45 ACP
        not that big of a gap

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          google "single action"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It returns a lot of dating sites. Are you a lonely boy?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              NTA but I am ><

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but that makes two of us 😛

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Totally and completely wrong. Laughably so in fact.
      A pistol in 1911 is still a useful weapon. A pistol in 1985 (when the M9 was adopted) is so thoroughly outclassed by every other infantry weapon on the battlefield that you might as well not even have it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        US army already had a pistol in 1911, Colt SAA. What was the point of adopting jamomatic?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What are you dumb? The colt SAA is an 1870s design. By the 1900s the US was using a variety of .38 special revolvers, like the colt new model army. They switched to a semi-automatic in .45 for faster fire and reloading.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they switched from picrel to the 1911 in the span of 2 years just to get 1 extra bullet
            Now thats what i call moronation

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, it was the Colt 1892 as I just said if your moronic ass would take the time to read.
          >why adopt tho
          As I said, a pistol was still useful in 1911 and they wanted a better one. Simple as.

          Also, pistols were outclassed by 1939 not 1985, when literally everyone was able to field SMG-s.

          >1939 not 1985
          Yes and? 1985 was when the next pistol was adopted, hence why I chose that date.

          Maybe if your moronic ass would learn how to fricking read and understand how context works in a sentence then you wouldn't have to ask all these stupid questions.
          KYS illiterate homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >being this mad ever
            lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >1985 was when the next pistol was adopted, hence why I chose that date.
            1985 was the year, single pistol was adoptes by various military branches.
            The procurement of pistols continued past WWII , more so after 1911.
            Air force was using .38 specials up to (your mentioned) 1985.
            How about you read a fricking history ,before commenting, anon. It clearly shows , that the idea of "1911 is fine, but M9 is le bad" is outright stupid.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              How about you learn English first?

              >being this mad ever
              lmao

              https://i.imgur.com/RDDnMWH.jpg

              Illiterate cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                And what you did your perfect english, anon?
                Stayed same ignorant person as before , instead of using the literacy skill, your great grandparent never had, to gain knowledge before arguing something.
                My English is sufficient to post here. 9 out 10 people understand, what I mean, even if the sentence, indeed, contains a few grammar errors.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the one made for the army was not a jammer. they told it to shoot 5,000 rounds without stoppage and it did. the jam meme came from shittty norinco or taurus copies

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >jamomatic
          I thought the test against Savage they did showed 0 stoppages.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also, pistols were outclassed by 1939 not 1985, when literally everyone was able to field SMG-s.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1911 is thin + quick to draw and shoot. Weight really doesn't matter when it's so thin and shaped well, I at least find it more comfortable to wear than thick polymer square handguns despite weighing a bit more.
    I find it far nicer to shoot as well than other handguns, and often it seems like modern handguns use high capacity to excuse them shooting like shit by comparison.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Marksmanship is so 20th century. Point and pull the trigger fast. Guy with the quickest trigger reset wins.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a colt combat commander 1911 in 38 super. It was gifted to me from my grandad. It's pretty sweet. I don't know if it's the high velocity rounds or what but I'm much more accurate with it than I am with a glock17.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The 1911 has superior ergonomics + trigger pull compared with other pistols.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The irons on it are pretty rockin too. Shit's solid steel so it's heavy but has almost no recoil.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nostalgia is a shitty reason for equipment choices.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not nostalgia, tradition.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Glock was the best if you wanted simplicity and reliability

    Beretta was best if you had competent soldiers that could be bothered to train with their pistols

    Sig was best if you are in Congress

    1911 is best if you pay attention to catheter commercials on fox news

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >1911 is best if you pay attention to catheter commercials on fox news
      Kek. The Colt SAA is an effective weapon that would give our soldier a distinctive look.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US should've adopted the 1911's true successor over the M9.

    The mudda fukkin FNX-45 should've won the pistol program.
    >Same grip angle as 1911s
    >double the capacity
    >modern, polymer, and ambidextrous perfect for your grunts and manufacturers
    >Capable of going from a base model grunt gun to a whole ass suppressor oper8tor piece
    >Will make the siggers seethe more
    >.45 acp baby. What's not to love?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no way

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They should have adopted the FN Hi-Power after WW2.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also don't try and act like you're just pretending to be moronic either. You aren't. You don't understand what I'm saying at all and it's painfully obvious. I'm curious as to why you choose to use a site that requires you to read like this one does because I know your moronic ass doesn't understand anything that you read here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The army should've kept it only because it makes millions seethe

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One guy who did an urban ops told me pistols still have decent corner-case use. He said there's times like climbing ladders into attics, crawling through places, and more which a pistol is far more comfortable to use than any rifle, The bullet is weaker but better firing a weaker bullet than discomfort letting the enemy fire first.

    Another guy on /tg/ once wrote
    >in 2018 i had a training exercise where i needed to unravel communications wire connecting two observation foxholes as part of meeting our legacy gear T&Rs and my team and i had been setting up our FOB all day without any heavy equipment support. you would not fricking begin to believe how annoyingly difficult it is to crawl around ethernet and power cables inside tents or navigate steep terrain covered in thick mojave brush with an m16 under those conditions. i would have fricking punched a lieutenant to trade in my rifle for a trench knife.
    >anecdote 2: in 2019 i was in a small village with a single vic on a routine patrol. we needed to dismount so the driver and gunner stayed in the humvee. long story short, a brawl broke out in a nearby house involving another patrol element and it ended with yours truly having to chase down sandBlack person usain bolt over a brick wall. nearly dislocated my fricking wrist trying to vault over a shoulder-height obstacle, and that was with a tiny ass M4

    I guess there's corner case use in very enclosed situations for pistols.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >One guy who did an urban ops told me
      A guy who you either completely made up or who did exist and lied to your face

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. As a fellow professional nugunz and neverserved, I can testify that I was there and know exactly the situation he described and I know I would've used a longgun in that exact situation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I kneel before you anon.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Knower detected.
    Browning absolutely perfected semi-auto pistols over 100yr ago; evidenced by the fact that all successful modern pistols borrow from the 1911 in one major way or another. Modern soldiers who find themselves in situations where they need a pistol are better off surrendering or shooting themselves. Capacity is a huge marketing meme for civilians. Pistol calibers are all irrelevant& equally [in]effective.
    >tl;dr 1911 is where pistol development should've (and basically has) stopped

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Capacity is a huge marketing meme for civilians.
      One guy told me each shot is another possible legal problem. Few of us pack automatic pistols for self defense so each bullet fired is an intentional squeeze (or negligent discharge). It's true that better survive the encounter first, face the courthouse second, but he had a point in arguing to the court how each bullet fired was necessary.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You are wrong. Getting arrested is a good thing. I dream of my anus muscles being stretched by my cellmate.

        [...]
        Holy fuddcope

        This. I too never practice shot placement nor research typical self defense engagements. I call everything fuddlore too because I am compensating for my lack of ability.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Capacity is a huge marketing meme for civilians.
      One guy told me each shot is another possible legal problem. Few of us pack automatic pistols for self defense so each bullet fired is an intentional squeeze (or negligent discharge). It's true that better survive the encounter first, face the courthouse second, but he had a point in arguing to the court how each bullet fired was necessary.

      Holy fuddcope

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about "prestige" instead of focusing entirely of killing efficiency and soldier protection

    That's arab-tier brainrot, OP. That's early-years-of-WW1-staff-officer levels of moronation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >instead of focusing entirely of backdoor deals and connections + profit
      Fixed.

      Your outdated mindset will never get you promoted. "Soldier protection" is meaningless before the profits we make getting our men killed.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They brought it back.
    It was stupid and kept breaking so they stopped.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      only issue i heard with m45a1 was that the finish wore away extremely easily, like in that photo posted a bit up there

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm serious. I intentionally agitate anons by implying they or people they know 's experience is wrong and that my lack of experience is better. The angrier the assfrick, the better.

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