The Troubles

While looking at the body count of a conflict can give you a sense of how serious it was, it doesn't always bring it home.
The Troubles had acts of terrorism, divided a country, had religious undertones, and there are still occasional casualties to this day.
Post pics, discuss, and appreciate that this "low intensity conflict" has mostly been put to rest.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The IRA surrendered and handed over their weapons. The UK is the only country with a track record of successful COIN warfare, where The USA, France and Russia have failed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IRA surrendered
      They got most of what they asked for, in the good Friday agreement, the British secret to successful COIN is just doing enough of what the insurgents ask for that they don’t feel like fighting anymore.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget arresting your own troops for doing their jobs
        Betcha they paid the commies in cash to give up

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck I didn’t know about that. Honestly it’s just surprising to me to use the troubles as an example of successful coin when it is probably one of the most successful recent examples of domestic terrorists actually effecting political/legal change in the west through violence.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Margaret Thatcher is dead, and there's IRA songs on fucking youtube. They won.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Northern Ireland remains British.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go there and say it, see if you get an armalite in the ear. To this day.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Both the Irish and bongs are scared to speak up against the 5'1 paki cunt raping his kids, stop acting tough lmao

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not acting for shit, go to northern ireland and say some dumbass shit about the troubles or fellate the british government. See what happens.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Both the Irish and bongs are scared to speak up against the 5'1 paki cunt raping his kids, stop acting tough lmao

              As a Southerner, I really want to visit Belfast and see our glorious Confederate flag flying. I bet, the Northern Irish would love me. Most US Southerners are of Ulster Scot ancestry.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You would be absolutely despised in Belfast I'm afraid mate In Dublin people will probably tolerate you but that's because it's a tourist town.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Visiting Belfast is like walking through the mind of a schizophrenic. In a Protestant area I saw a flag pole with a union jack, Swastika, and Israeli flag in that order.
                Conversely on the falls road you have talkies that fly RF and soviet flags (this is after Russia's invasion of ukraine) and tool bags claiming they're the true Republicans because they support gays and trailnnies more than the other off shoots.

                Put related is from the troubles exhibit in Ulster Museum. Notice how there are leftist undertones, yet the message is actually coherent? You font see that anymore

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You’d be fine in Ireland as long as you understand you’re a tourist, not an expert in Irish society, - NI and Irish politics is a clusterfuck. Also avoid referring to yourself as being Irish (you’re American) or saying cliched things like “I’m home”. Many people in Ireland have had personal experience of Americans coming over, acting like they live here, and lecturing native Irish people about Ireland as if they were some authority figure, while getting everything horribly wrong.
                I don’t mean to dissuade you from coming to Ireland, we are very friendly, but I can guarantee you’ll have a much better time if you avoid making any decisive political statements about Irish politics. It’s still a very sore, open wound for many people.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              IRA chuds lost, get over it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't their current political class importing the 3rd world at the same alarming rate as other Western nations? Seem like they fought for nothing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Aren't their current political class importing the 3rd world at the same alarming rate as other Western nations? Seem like they fought for nothing.

            Yep. Dublin is little Kinshasa at this point.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Roosevelt is dead and I can listen to Nazi songs on YouTube. I guess the Nazis won World War 2 huh?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >auf der heide blueht ein kleines bluemelein...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IRA surrendered
      They got most of what they asked for, in the good Friday agreement, the British secret to successful COIN is just doing enough of what the insurgents ask for that they don’t feel like fighting anymore.

      Don't forget arresting your own troops for doing their jobs
      Betcha they paid the commies in cash to give up

      Fuck I didn’t know about that. Honestly it’s just surprising to me to use the troubles as an example of successful coin when it is probably one of the most successful recent examples of domestic terrorists actually effecting political/legal change in the west through violence.

      >IRA
      Best technicals.
      Ahead of their time.
      Innovators.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >
        BRENDAN HUGHES: I remember sitting in a house and this guy was in the merchant navy and he came back with this booklet on an Armalite. And the booklet really praised this weapon and it said in it if a person is shot in the arm with this particular weapon, it'll break every bone in his body. And this was the- this was the weapon- everyone was saying this is the weapon that's going to change the whole war.

        NARRATOR: To supply the Armalites - a version of the M-16 - the Provisionals looked across the Atlantic. Irish Americans had traditionally supplied the IRA with money and guns. One of their biggest supporters was George Harrison.

        GEORGE HARRISON: Some would be bought on the black market and they probably- source maybe was U.S. Army or whatever, you know.

        PETER TAYLOR: You mean they'd be stolen from the-

        GEORGE HARRISON: Probably were, you know, you could think, you know?

        NARRATOR: Many Armalites seized in Northern Ireland bear the inscription "Property of the U.S. Government."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PETER TAYLOR: How many weapons do you think you sent to Ireland?
          GEORGE HARRISON: Well, I couldn't say exactly, but I would say between 2,500 and 3,000 would be close, you know, to the figure, you know?
          PETER TAYLOR: And ammunition?

          GEORGE HARRISON: I think ammunition amounted to probably over a million rounds.

          BRENDAN HUGHES, Former IRA Commander, Belfast: I remember this car pulling up and the boot opening up and magic Armalites were there - I mean, 15 Armalites. And I remember the people who were there being amazed that the firepower was there. And I know people felt, really, "This is it. This is it. We're really moving up a stage here with these things."

          NARRATOR: By the beginning of 1972, the Provisionals were still only supported by a minority of Catholics in Northern Ireland, although it didn't look like that, as the IRA flaunted itself in so-called "Free Derry." Local British Army units seldom breached the IRA's barricades here in the Bogside. From this secure base, the IRA could raid the rest of Derry, killing soldiers and policemen. Senior British officers were outraged by the sight of the IRA operating so openly.

          Derry would be the setting for one of the darkest days in the growing conflict between the Catholics and the British. It was January 30th, 1972. The day began with a peaceful civil rights march. It ended as "Bloody Sunday."

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the source on this interview/documentary? I want to enjoy it in full later!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              chatGPT

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao, and that's why the British still occupy all of Ireland, right?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The IRA in question fought to make Northern Ireland part of ROI, they failed.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If the Irish had balls, they would have shot every English they saw. Man, women etc...to make that point. Too bad their CIA handlers never approved that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Irish are ethnically English.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, they're Scottish. Which are Saxon-Dane rape babies

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eveyone in the British Isles are genetically indestinct the Welsh are the only ones with any organic celtic culture left and that's literally down to a few thousand people in tiny villages who speak to Welsh before they learn english.

                All the lame nationalists "Irish" ideals the IRA clones had in mind are dead, ROI is basically like the Isle of Man or Jersey, satilite tax havens that depend on the mothership of the UK.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the Welsh are the only ones with any organic celtic culture left
                Yeah Welsh is magically more Celtic than Gaeilge, good observation my Brittonic friend
                and that's literally down to a few thousand people in tiny villages who speak to Welsh before they learn english.
                Good thing the Gaeltacht doesn't exist

                Pic unrelated, certainly isn't related to any sort of genetic markers indicating Celtic genealogy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ireland is genetically indestinct from the UK anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                that's nonsense. they have similar ancestry up to a point but nowadays your average Brit would only have 20% genetic commonality with an average Mick

                https://i.imgur.com/a2aqIHl.png

                everyone talks about the IRA, why not the UVF?

                because they suck. the IRA had goals and generally tried to achieve them, the UVF were bitter headless chickens going after anyone they didnt like, even to their detriment making the Police and Army their enemy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You realise bananas share 50% of our DNA? Apes 98%. Irish and British are not genetically distinct groups, they are the same race.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You realise bananas share 50% of our DNA? Apes 98%. Irish and British are not genetically distinct groups, they are the same race.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You realise bananas share 50% of our DNA? Apes 98%. Irish and British are not genetically distinct groups, they are the same race.
                UK education system needs some improvements

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eveyone in the British Isles are genetically indestinct the Welsh are the only ones with any organic celtic culture left and that's literally down to a few thousand people in tiny villages who speak to Welsh before they learn english.

                All the lame nationalists "Irish" ideals the IRA clones had in mind are dead, ROI is basically like the Isle of Man or Jersey, satilite tax havens that depend on the mothership of the UK.

                [...]
                Only the Welsh are native Britons. Scottish are from Ireland. English are lowland Germans.

                >spits all over your "purity" and puts the jam on first

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Scotland was originally an Irish colony, later mixed with Vikings and subjugated by en*lish

                Eveyone in the British Isles are genetically indestinct the Welsh are the only ones with any organic celtic culture left and that's literally down to a few thousand people in tiny villages who speak to Welsh before they learn english.

                All the lame nationalists "Irish" ideals the IRA clones had in mind are dead, ROI is basically like the Isle of Man or Jersey, satilite tax havens that depend on the mothership of the UK.

                >Everyone in British isles are genetically indistinct
                I can Pick out an English man. Weak chin, beady eyes it's as though they're physically marked as the agents of Satan

                >ROI satellite tax haven dependent on UK.
                Wouldn't say they're dependent on UK, but you're right. The English gutted, and repressed the culture over several centuries. Poets like Pearse, Plunkett and visionaries like Collins or Connolly were all killed at one point or another and you're left with Rats like DeValera. It's sad to think of what could have been

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, they're Scottish. Which are Saxon-Dane rape babies

              Only the Welsh are native Britons. Scottish are from Ireland. English are lowland Germans.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >English are lowland Germans
                No they're not you retard. In the entire history of the British isles, there were 250,000 'lowland Germans' who came over. The genetic makeup of the British isles has remained largely unchanged for thousands of years. The meme that UK is a 'melting pot' is just liberal bullshit to trick us into thinking
                >Well it's always been like this so it is OK to replace the whites with browns
                Just like it is done in USA.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ira being shits still sold their us govt issue c4 to Libya which backfired with the Lockerbie American passengers getting done, cutting off their primary support.
            Now Bidens Catholic admin is sniffing around trying to get ira going again, but it could just be photo op for the us catholic vote since biden is a pathological electioneer

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The IRA regarded the Republic as an illegitimate British puppet state, and desired to abolish it alongside Northern Ireland to establish an all island socialist republic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            'The IRA' you fucking idiot. The IRA ceased to exist along with the IRB in 1922. Or do you mean the pira/cisa/oira/nira/iplo/inla/rira. Utter scum and traitors who murdered their fellow Irishmen to please moscow just like the uff/uda/rhc/uff/uvf/lvf etc

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The British experience in Northern Ireland is a story of such blistering incompetence and stupidity that it makes the American campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan look ingenious by comparison.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The UK won. America didn't. We told the Americans how not to loose but they didn't pay attention and once again our predictions turned true.

        British Generals and politician's explained ad infinitum that power, water, services had to be restored in 60 days from the invasion being completed or the people would turn. 3 years later much of bagdad had no running water and Bush is giving speeches about the axis of evil, causing Iran to change sides and start surging forces and weapons into an eager vacuum of power.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the opposite lol. America crushed ISIS and eventually won a comprehensive victory in Iraq. Even the US defeat in Afghanistan involved the US killing all of Al Qaeda central and buck breaking the rest of the region into no longer tolerating AQ presence. Meanwhile, the British spent nearly three decades and 3,500 lives on a conflict that could easily have been prevented with a bare minimum of common sense.

          The ironic thing being that the British campaigns in Malaya and Sierra Leone are textbook examples of how to win decisively in a small war. They just couldn't see their own country with the same degree of objectivity. For example, the British correctly deduced that the Malayan insurgency existed because Chinese people in Malaya were landless peasants with no political power, and they immediately responded with land reform and political representation to undercut the insurgency. In their own backyard, they responded to a conflict between Protestants and Catholics, that the Protestants started, by interning exclusively Catholics and sending the army into Catholic neighborhoods to take away the weapons they were using to defend themselves. The end result was, predictably, the Catholics concluding that shooting was now more likely to solve the problem than trying to reason with London.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The UK defends self determination, Irish nationalists have always been a small minority in NI. Even now only like 30% of people in NI support unification with Ireland lol

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's cool but if a group is 40% of the population and they get shit on constantly, they usually start shooting at some point. Modern scholarship on civil wars shows that the percentage of the population that belongs to ethnic groups that have no access to political power is one of the single biggest predicters of conflict.

              It's funny because it only took the US about three years to notice this dynamic and tell Al Maliki to fuck off, but it took twenty years into the Troubles before the British got the stones to tell Ulster the same thing.

              The strangest thing being that the British could understand this dynamic when it came to Chinese in Malaya, but they were too blinded by political concerns to do the same thing in their own country.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet the US still ignored British guidence and Iraq is a mess 20 years later and the Taliban own Afghanistan.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If we treated it like the Brits treated NI we would still be fighting over there.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You realise prolonged fighting over multiple generations is what's required for change on a large scale to be lasting? The US doesn't have the attention span.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, we're competent, so we haven't had a shooting war on our own territory since the Indians.

                We beat the fuck out of the Indians too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's the war on drugs? What's your black gang wars? What's the mentaly Ill white dudes shooting up schools and concerts?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those are minor and dispersed with trivial casualties most of whom (gang wars etc) improve society by dying. War On Some Drugs isn't even a war, it's policing with better hardware.

                If not for the media few citizens would even notice they happen since the US is so enormous we write off ~35K dead/year in car crashes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Those are minor and dispersed with trivial casualties

                clueless, you were just going on about 3,000 deaths over 3 decades.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Less southern irish want it, most see it as a glorified council estate full of chavs thats nothing but a drain on everyone. As for gays claiming who won or lost. The Good Friday Agreement was a joke but it was the better alternative than carrying on. Anyone who served or was involved knew by the end of the 80s something had to change. The IRA had lost momentum and were losing support from the youth who at a minimum didnt care and at most were sick of the constant fighting. The loyalists werent getting govt support and nobody wanted to join up to their groups who often killed their own. As for the army, it was a drain on time and resources and nobody wanted to be there. In the end nobody won or lost. The ira still operate as a larping group, the loyalists continue to be tards and the army use it as a punishment posting for regiments who fuck up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IRA surrendered
      They got most of what they asked for, in the good Friday agreement, the British secret to successful COIN is just doing enough of what the insurgents ask for that they don’t feel like fighting anymore.

      Don't forget arresting your own troops for doing their jobs
      Betcha they paid the commies in cash to give up

      extremists today on both sides in northern ireland are russian controlled gangs and retards that have swallowed 4chan tier retard bait and that is all they ever were

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >extremists today on both sides in northern ireland are russian controlled gangs and retards that have swallowed 4chan tier retard bait and that is all they ever were

        Russia was the primary controller of violent gans on both sides of teh troubles after 1975 the ongoing misery they caused tied down 25000 British troops that might otherwise have been in west Germany and also created a situation in which it was impossible for the Republic of Ireland to join NATO. The PIRA no longer exist, teh UDA and UVF are drug cgangs and croiminals supplied via the Russian controlled European drug cartels. The IRSP/NIRA etc are their mirror image, entirely controlled by Moscow (pic related). All of them on both sides should be hung by their respective communities as traitors.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cringe 77th gay

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go back to aficra

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And yet the UK became a colony of Pakistan, their former colony where they tried to run COIN...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >UK pop. 68m
        >Pakistani origin 2m
        Yeah, nah. Let me guess your a burger without a passport.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a paki runs your country cope

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's bizarre having memories of kicking a ball around in the backyard only for a group of fully-equipped soldiers hop the fence from the neighbouring yard, trudge through, hop the fence into the next yard, and carry on. Must have been fairly tiring for them, now that I think on it. That was a pretty long street.
    t. born towards the tail-end of the Troubles.
    Two of my favourite stories involve my Uncle - bunch of RUC raided the family home when he was younger, he hid under a fucking blanket on the sofa and somehow wasn't found while they tore the rest of the place up.
    The other one had him in Maghaberry. Somehow they managed to sneak in an entire batch of IRA uniforms, a couple of flags, and got a full parade-style photograph that he was in. Absolutely dumbfounded me when I was told about it and shown the photo.
    tl;dr the Brits were indeed quite effective, while the IRA were clever and adaptable enough to continue being a considerable headache.
    The RUC, meanwhile, were pretty much just thugs.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me lil barrett .50 cal

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Small and portable, directly into the weaknesses of the entire 'we prevent all activity' proposition of an established power.

    IRS taking advantage of the local landscape and urbanscapes, lifestyles, expectations, as advantaging certain methods and devices of attack.

    Very few Islamic terrorists have reached this efficiency, and when they do it's an actual global operation.

    Perforce, IRA terrorists invent all the best applications of terrorism on the spot, assisted by drunk Amerilards with cringey St. Paddy's Day irishism and funding it all.

    Shameful but glad the Irish Islanders of all types let us out.

    We also got an endless supply of NI Cold War hotties in all the movies. No woman will ever be sexier than an actual damaged-up Specop prostitute. All the European Leftist terror organizations went straight to
    >Rape the local hot smart girl
    and got real traction with this. Rape works and it was used by the Europeans most effectively, and a few NI chicks were scraped out of that fuckhole and pimped all over Europe and the globe and this actually happened. Pretty fascinating w/o the sex.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't understand even one sentence out of that whole post.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Perforce, IRA terrorists invent all the best applications of terrorism on the spot, assisted by drunk Amerilards with cringey St. Paddy's Day irishism and funding it all.
      wait my fellow americans helped kill br*tish scum?
      fucking nice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I intend this in the most respectful way possible but you might wanna consider typing with both hands for a more easily followable train of thought and syntax

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barely anybody even died, the fact that this is a footnote in your guy's history is laughable

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The country is tiny, even today there are less than two million people and virtually everyone has someone who was directedly affected or involved in some way.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone talks about the IRA, why not the UVF?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they were cucks who never achieved any meaningful victories or even interesting events.

      Even the British Army's official history of the troubles describes PIRA as "a remarkably professional and disciplined guerilla force" and describes loyalist paramilitaries as overglorified gangs.

      verification not required

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the IRA usually stuck to only killing soldiers/police, protestants and the odd tout. The UVF just gunned down whoever happened to be Infront of them at the time, including other protestants, police and army.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Statisticly you had a better chance of dying falling down the stairs in the UK than being killed by the IRA in N.Ireland.
        Absaloutley brain dead comment made by the most retarded anon itt

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Force Research Unit

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My dad is from Belfast (I’m from the US) and grew up in the 60s and 70s when it was bad. He had lockdowns and stuff in school because of bombings and whatnot, but my dad is a based boomer and just complained about the bombings being minor inconveniences.

    There’s some people who’ll say that Northern Ireland is part of muh Irish republic but that’s literally not the case; the people in Northern Ireland voted to remain in the United Kingdom because they see themselves as being British and not really culturally Irish. Nowadays from what I’ve personally noticed is that the people in Northern Ireland recognize that both nationalists and unionists are the bad guys and everyone just wants to peace. The people in Northern Ireland have gone through too much for assholes in balaclavas to ruin the peace process.

    I think there can be a peaceful coexistence especially since the northern Irish people said they themselves are northern Irish and British. I don’t think the Irish government and the British government have any qualms with each other.

    TL;DR both sides are stupid, Northern Ireland voted to remain in the UK and people trying to get NI back in the republic by violence are idiots and are ruining it for everyone

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My grandpa told me the trees in some of Ireland were kept removed and they never let them get too tall because it was bandit country.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UP THE RA YEOOOOOOOOO

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Insurgencies always split populations and get nasty with civilians killing rival factions. It is the only way to conduct them since some elements of a population will always side with the foriegn power.

    But Ireland needed one, if you look at historical english records Irish were much bigger and stronger before the English conquered them and starved them for hundreds of years evolving them into smaller people.
    English records even say an Irish man could take on 4 englishmen readily andeven their women were a challenge.
    Several hundred years later after subjugating them and owning their land and making them grow crops to mainly be consumed in england while they ate barely enough to survive with most calories from low nutrition starches like potatoes they were a smaller weaker people.
    Still wiry and fierce but a shadow of what they had been hundreds of years earlier.

    However once they gained their freedom, some of the last geneticly pure celts (some scandinavian mixture) after the conquest and mixing of iberia with african admixture muslims and romans before them, the Irish decided to rapidly import foriegners to ireland.
    The english preserved irish genetics better than the irish do. Many american irish descendants look more irish than large parts of ireland now. In a century they probably wont even have redheads anymore.
    So in a way the english preserved them into the modern era for all to see before they cease to exist on earth.
    During the times of the ancient mammoth hunters and ice age large portions of europe had that appearance. Redheaded giants were a real thing. Since those features vanish with tiny admixture they are almost gone now.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So in a way the english preserved them into the modern era for all to see before they cease to exist on earth.
      The Famine decimated the Irish language, and was so damaging that Ireland has still not recovered the population lost.

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