The Tigers Way

Thoughts on this book /k/? You do bayonet enemy sentries to enable your assaulting forces to infiltrate within fragmentation ranges of the enemy while maintaining the element of surprise, right?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's this guy deal? He seems legit, many things he says makes sense, but some things are weird.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Partly due to not giving a single frick about doctrine which is like somebody going to a Communist /mlp/ meetup and proclaiming that private property is actually a pretty cool thing, which will turn heads because everyone else is so entrenched within said doctrine/ideology. Partly for talking about tactics and doctrine that have a completely different basis than that of Western military doctrine and tactics. Along with completely different philosophies behind their reasonings. The idea of a US Army infantry platoon spending 7 hours crawling 300 meters to get within frag throwing distance of the enemy while only firing their rifles when they have to, preferring their frag grenades and unironically their bayonets so as to make their position harder to detect a pretty "out there" idea. As far as the NVA/VC, North Koreans, Chinese and professional Soviet forces were concerned throughout the 20th century, the shit did in fact work.

      It's just hard to justify it when you can just rape a position with arty and air strikes and pretend you accomplished something so you can show it to a politician in the form of "progress" being made in a war.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're an absolute fricking drooling moron.

        The aforementioned buddy team bounding

        https://i.imgur.com/QsetJBk.jpg

        What's this guy deal? He seems legit, many things he says makes sense, but some things are weird.

        mentioned in this post is 100% US doctrine.
        Bounding, bounding overwatch, buddy team movement, etc... are all basic infantry tactics.
        Every single US Soldier learns what's said in

        https://i.imgur.com/QsetJBk.jpg

        What's this guy deal? He seems legit, many things he says makes sense, but some things are weird.

        at some point during their basic training.

        Just because we've fought the GWOT a certain way for 20 years doesn't mean that people aren't taught the fundamentals when they come in anymore.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Partly due to not giving a single frick about doctrine which is like somebody going to a Communist /mlp/ meetup and proclaiming that private property is actually a pretty cool thing, which will turn heads because everyone else is so entrenched within said doctrine/ideology. Partly for talking about tactics and doctrine that have a completely different basis than that of Western military doctrine and tactics. Along with completely different philosophies behind their reasonings. The idea of a US Army infantry platoon spending 7 hours crawling 300 meters to get within frag throwing distance of the enemy while only firing their rifles when they have to, preferring their frag grenades and unironically their bayonets so as to make their position harder to detect a pretty "out there" idea. As far as the NVA/VC, North Koreans, Chinese and professional Soviet forces were concerned throughout the 20th century, the shit did in fact work.

      It's just hard to justify it when you can just rape a position with arty and air strikes and pretend you accomplished something so you can show it to a politician in the form of "progress" being made in a war.

      >stay out of sight, throw grenades, stab people up close
      pretty sure they figured out most of these tactics in world war 1

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Small scale infantry tactics haven't changed in a long time in fairness, it's just not that important in an age of large scale organizational warfare that has air support and artillery to do most of the work for you now.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          *says as the biggest war in the last 15 years breaks down into close quarters trench warfare and urban combat measured in meters, not miles*

          https://i.imgur.com/8TObUzu.jpg

          Thoughts on this book /k/? You do bayonet enemy sentries to enable your assaulting forces to infiltrate within fragmentation ranges of the enemy while maintaining the element of surprise, right?

          He was based and light-infantrypilled.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The forward of the book addresses this. The belief that by firing mass artillery at an "area" to destroy the enemy and or suppress them just to learn that you killed no one and when trying to maneuver upon it, you get lit the frick up is kind of a slap in the face awakening to the reality that just because you have big guns doesn't automatically mean you win the fight. It was often reported by commanders in Vietnam that they would score hundreds of NVA kills after an air strike despite there being only maybe a handful of bodies at most. In other words, shit ain't that simple.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a solution looking for a problem. When was the last time the U.S. military was stymied in any meaningful way by enemy defenses? You'd probably have to go back to Korea to find a time U.S. forces were denied an area they were determined to capture or hold purely by the weight of enemy military action.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >go on patrol
              >get shot at by insurgents
              >bomb insurgent location
              >investigate insurgent location
              >no bodies or evidence of any injuries

              It's not about taking terrain. One of the biggest problems with US COIN is how god awful we are at actually fixing and destroying small insurgent cells. The early years of the Afghan war and the Soviet Afghan war focusing on VDV and Spetznaz forces are good examples on how to destroy them, and that involves infiltrating small units and out guerrilla'ing the guerrillas. There is inherent risk in that, but also reward as well.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The forward of the book addresses this. The belief that by firing mass artillery at an "area" to destroy the enemy and or suppress them just to learn that you killed no one and when trying to maneuver upon it, you get lit the frick up is kind of a slap in the face awakening to the reality that just because you have big guns doesn't automatically mean you win the fight. It was often reported by commanders in Vietnam that they would score hundreds of NVA kills after an air strike despite there being only maybe a handful of bodies at most. In other words, shit ain't that simple.

                It is un-American not to use overwhelming firepower and combined arms. For one, using massive support to infantry greatly reduces their casualties, and unlike most humans on planet earth American lives have value.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Damn, you’re right

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this pic made me download the book, I love this kind of shit

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read it and I think he's on to something.
    "Terrorist Trail" and "Tequila Junction" were also very informative.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    oh it's one of those threads

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What, one that isn't shills flinging propaganda at each other for hours on end?

  4. 11 months ago
    S

    Someone please post a link to a pdf, can't find one for kindle

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Use libgen

      • 11 months ago
        S

        Still won't work, already length to find available downloads

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Weird, i found it there
          https://libgen.rocks/ads.php?md5=FE94203FA8B66B44CEAABE437899D4AB

          • 11 months ago
            S

            Thank you

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