>don't nuke ukraine for fear of western retaliation >nuke an ally because they refused to join your suicidal war effort
My sides would explode if such a thing happened
Always remember that there is a difference between >impossible to produce
and >impossible to produce quickly and at scale
When most outlets state that "Russia is running out of X" what they usually mean is the latter.
>look it up >"sources say" >only date given is April 2022 for 100~ helicopter engines from Egyp >Egypt then sent them 150~ in December >Absolutely no sources proof or even attempt to flub informaton for anything else
early 2022 right after the event started, this article is well over a year late
weird cope since article talks about the meeting from July 2023 and talks ending with an agreement to send helicopter engines in December of this year. nice try Ivan but your disinfo failed yet again.
>In a report published on Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing three people with knowledge of the matter, said a delegation of Russian officials who visited Cairo in April 2022 asked Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi to return more than 100 engines from Russian helicopters that are needed for the full-scale invasion.
on an somewhat related tangent, the US actually issued a recall on lend-lease shermans to replace lost shermans after the battle of the bulge
so a few hundred british tanks that were earmarked for delivery to british sectors were instead sent to US sectors that needed to be rebuilt quickly
though this was of a much smaller scale than what russia is trying, since they were just diverting shipments intended for lend-lease
not literally asking for the ones in australia back
>is that like in a logistical report or something?
they sent a request to the british for at least 500 shermans, since they needed to rebuild tank strength ASAP after
they asked for 76mm shermans, which the british happily complied with because they didnt like the 76mm sherman due to its small HE shell, so they used up pretty much their entire stock of M4A1 76s that were just lying in britian as well as a few spare 75mm shermans that were of older stock so were never issued
dont have a copy of the order itself, but pic is related
a british M4A1 76 that was collecting dust until the US asked for it back, the serial number has an X on it to denote its aa transferred vehicle
Aren't the sand naggers getting billions of dollars in US military aid? Why is the US always funding countries that help their enemies. Same with Pakistan. Sends them billions every year while the Taliban hop over the border.
An empire? Literally unquestioned global hegemony? You realize, unless you are either a child or disingenuous, that there isn't a single credible threat to the United States in the world, right? The greatest contender right now is China who hopes to be able to challenge a regional interest within the next couple decades. It's obviously a little beyond you to understand the power dynamics at play and the responsibilities for the ruling party in a hegemony, but in short the United States funds nations because no one else will and the alternative is total anarchy like when we turned away from our responsibilities in Afghanistan. It's not an entirely beneficial arrangement and previously Europe characterized this as "the white man's burden" when they were colonizing and conquering Africa. It's not an entirely incorrect line of thinking: The cost of being at the top is maintaining your domain. If you're American, you want the world to continue to have no choice but to accept American aid and American influence. You might think you want otherwise in times of peace, but you don't.
let's say brazil sends back stuff they bought from russia. In order to get to russia, they'd have to send a container ship. Would the ukies be within their rights if they'd sink it?
Since WW2 its generally considered permissible to sink merchant ships carrying "war goods" while at active war with an enemy. The issue is going to be that Russia often plays games with what is actually on ships and will likely claim that it was just carrying food or medical aid and cry about how mean Ukraine is.
Also, no way Ukraine can project a credible threat out into the Atlantic, so no way this will ever happen. They'd have better luck trying to stage saboteurs in whatever port it stops at to refuel and plant explosives or something but that introduces it own whole host of issues attached to it.
I know, it's a hypothetical question bc the ukies don't have a wolfpack of subs lurking the atlantic and a raised eyebrow by the west will ppl have the same effect (preventing the shipments).
Still fun to think about it though.
Since WW2 its generally considered permissible to sink merchant ships carrying "war goods" while at active war with an enemy. The issue is going to be that Russia often plays games with what is actually on ships and will likely claim that it was just carrying food or medical aid and cry about how mean Ukraine is.
Also, no way Ukraine can project a credible threat out into the Atlantic, so no way this will ever happen. They'd have better luck trying to stage saboteurs in whatever port it stops at to refuel and plant explosives or something but that introduces it own whole host of issues attached to it.
Would be funny seeing a Ukrainian Su-24 getting aerial refuels to the Atlantic to launch a Storm Shadow at the merchant ship
I imagine the only possible scenario if ukrainian spec ops overtake the ship physically.
Since we already now that they have active operations in africa, it is the most possible way.
At the same time, I imagine Russia would just hire some brazilian company, thus ukraine attacking it might not look so clear cut.
>pirates off the coast of Somalia >but theyre're Ukrainian >they don't want to hostage and ransom random haulers, only to get within RPG range of this one specific ship >back dingy has no dudes in it, only a huge mound of RPG ammo
Is pirate kino back on the menu?
>noooo only we’re allowed to spam the board with sourceless slop! >how dare you make even one thread about news that’s about russia fucking up instead!
Fuckin hypocritical naggerhomosexual
I was gonna call OP a fag instead but vatniks always find a way to be even more fucking obnoxious.
They were refurbishing tanks owned by India, then seized them for their own war, supposedly without consent by India.
Surprise surprise, India is now signing contracts with France and US for new cooperation on weapons.
India also refuses to use rubles for oil purchases and instead hand out rupees since they’re tired of Russia’s shit.
Unnamed sources called the Russian invasion.Meanwhile those who screech about MUH UNNAMED SOURCES were busy reposting twitter screencaps of RU embassy accounts claiming that "those are excercises*~~*~~"
funny how all these unnamed sources have been right every single day since the beginning of this hilarious attempt at exerting military control over your significantly smaller neighbour and getting embarrassed on a global stage by some hand me down 80s NATO gear that would have cost more to scrap than deliver to Ukraine 🙂
Nta, but: >Putin wins next election with 160% of all votes. >Navalny becomes new minister of defense, shoigu retires to his tuvan samurai castle. >Ukranian pow are sent as penal units against ukie positions. >african terminators see battlefield use, do exceptionally well in getting blown up. >Trump wins reelection by promising to nuke moscow.
Just say no, lol. What're they gonna do, invade you?
Imma
Imma
That's it imma nook
>nuking your few remaining allies
I wouldn't put it past them to do something this stupid, assuming their nooks still work (they don't).
Not giving us our stuff back is a Red line you do not want to cross Ok buddy
> is a Red line
Which one, lol
The only thing Russia has ample supplies of is red lines.
Russia owes poojeets a billion in weapons that poos have paid for but Russia has not delivered
Maybe they can make up the difference by sending Russian women to show bobs and vagene
Please do the needful
>don't nuke ukraine for fear of western retaliation
>nuke an ally because they refused to join your suicidal war effort
My sides would explode if such a thing happened
would be unsurprising behavior from a culture that legalized wife beating
>indian giving the indians
Sometimes the memes write themselves
>indian giving the indians
I noticed russians are trying to slide their shit or Indians. Why?
But I thought ruzzia is out producing the entire world???
What's happening zizters?
They can just buy it back, assuming anyone still wants russias monopoly money
So are they trying to buy them back? Or are they begging for freebies?
>helicopter engines
ka-52 fleet got fucked up real bad, huh
Is that true that those engines were produced in Ukraine and russia doesn't have capabilities to make them anymore?
Not really, but they derive from the Klimov TV3-117, which was produced in Ukraine
Always remember that there is a difference between
>impossible to produce
and
>impossible to produce quickly and at scale
When most outlets state that "Russia is running out of X" what they usually mean is the latter.
>look it up
>"sources say"
>only date given is April 2022 for 100~ helicopter engines from Egyp
>Egypt then sent them 150~ in December
>Absolutely no sources proof or even attempt to flub informaton for anything else
early 2022 right after the event started, this article is well over a year late
weird cope since article talks about the meeting from July 2023 and talks ending with an agreement to send helicopter engines in December of this year. nice try Ivan but your disinfo failed yet again.
>In a report published on Wednesday, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ), citing three people with knowledge of the matter, said a delegation of Russian officials who visited Cairo in April 2022 asked Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi to return more than 100 engines from Russian helicopters that are needed for the full-scale invasion.
Based on visual losses alone they’ve lost like a third of the entire fleet
Uhh zisters?
on an somewhat related tangent, the US actually issued a recall on lend-lease shermans to replace lost shermans after the battle of the bulge
so a few hundred british tanks that were earmarked for delivery to british sectors were instead sent to US sectors that needed to be rebuilt quickly
though this was of a much smaller scale than what russia is trying, since they were just diverting shipments intended for lend-lease
not literally asking for the ones in australia back
>earmarked for delivery to british sectors were instead sent to US sectors
thats very interesting, is that like in a logistical report or something?
>is that like in a logistical report or something?
they sent a request to the british for at least 500 shermans, since they needed to rebuild tank strength ASAP after
they asked for 76mm shermans, which the british happily complied with because they didnt like the 76mm sherman due to its small HE shell, so they used up pretty much their entire stock of M4A1 76s that were just lying in britian as well as a few spare 75mm shermans that were of older stock so were never issued
dont have a copy of the order itself, but pic is related
a british M4A1 76 that was collecting dust until the US asked for it back, the serial number has an X on it to denote its aa transferred vehicle
lmao yall got pumped n dumped for israel. enjoy that.
Aren't the sand naggers getting billions of dollars in US military aid? Why is the US always funding countries that help their enemies. Same with Pakistan. Sends them billions every year while the Taliban hop over the border.
>Why is the US always funding countries
This is real question right here.
Yes it is a question. not an argument.
No but seriously why are we giving money to all these countries? What do we get out of the deal?
An empire? Literally unquestioned global hegemony? You realize, unless you are either a child or disingenuous, that there isn't a single credible threat to the United States in the world, right? The greatest contender right now is China who hopes to be able to challenge a regional interest within the next couple decades. It's obviously a little beyond you to understand the power dynamics at play and the responsibilities for the ruling party in a hegemony, but in short the United States funds nations because no one else will and the alternative is total anarchy like when we turned away from our responsibilities in Afghanistan. It's not an entirely beneficial arrangement and previously Europe characterized this as "the white man's burden" when they were colonizing and conquering Africa. It's not an entirely incorrect line of thinking: The cost of being at the top is maintaining your domain. If you're American, you want the world to continue to have no choice but to accept American aid and American influence. You might think you want otherwise in times of peace, but you don't.
Because threatening to turn off the money spigot is a remarkably effective deterrent against playing fuck-fuck games with American interests.
Does Egypt even buy slavshit anymore? They bought French planes and ships not too long ago.
>ships
They bought the Italian FREMMs, not the French ones
Their first FREMM is a french model and they also bought the two Mistrals originally intended for Russia
let's say brazil sends back stuff they bought from russia. In order to get to russia, they'd have to send a container ship. Would the ukies be within their rights if they'd sink it?
Since WW2 its generally considered permissible to sink merchant ships carrying "war goods" while at active war with an enemy. The issue is going to be that Russia often plays games with what is actually on ships and will likely claim that it was just carrying food or medical aid and cry about how mean Ukraine is.
Also, no way Ukraine can project a credible threat out into the Atlantic, so no way this will ever happen. They'd have better luck trying to stage saboteurs in whatever port it stops at to refuel and plant explosives or something but that introduces it own whole host of issues attached to it.
Would be funny seeing a Ukrainian Su-24 getting aerial refuels to the Atlantic to launch a Storm Shadow at the merchant ship
I don't think any nation outside of Russia has a tanker capable of aerial refuel of an Su-24
Not to mention it would need okay of any nations it would overfly; that excludes every nation in NATO right off the bat.
Ukrainian planes can't fly over NATO territories?
I know, it's a hypothetical question bc the ukies don't have a wolfpack of subs lurking the atlantic and a raised eyebrow by the west will ppl have the same effect (preventing the shipments).
Still fun to think about it though.
I imagine the only possible scenario if ukrainian spec ops overtake the ship physically.
Since we already now that they have active operations in africa, it is the most possible way.
At the same time, I imagine Russia would just hire some brazilian company, thus ukraine attacking it might not look so clear cut.
>pirates off the coast of Somalia
>but theyre're Ukrainian
>they don't want to hostage and ransom random haulers, only to get within RPG range of this one specific ship
>back dingy has no dudes in it, only a huge mound of RPG ammo
Is pirate kino back on the menu?
>dystopia
>Ukrainska Pravda
>unnamed source say
>noooo only we’re allowed to spam the board with sourceless slop!
>how dare you make even one thread about news that’s about russia fucking up instead!
Fuckin hypocritical naggerhomosexual
I was gonna call OP a fag instead but vatniks always find a way to be even more fucking obnoxious.
Russia is putting museum pieces in the field. Is it really that hard to believe they're so low on equipment that they're asking their allies for help?
>asking their allies
vatnaggers have allies?
> OK, OK! I forgot about Eritrea!
What did Russia sell to Brazil? A bunch of old Iglas?
SARRY SAR BUT WE ALREADY REDEEMED THE TANKS SAR
Didn't Russia use tanks meant for export to India over a year ago already
>I think it was even worse, they were Indian tanks that were in Russia for repairs.
Bloody beech bastards Sars! Who told you to redem why did you redem the tanks sars???
They were refurbishing tanks owned by India, then seized them for their own war, supposedly without consent by India.
Surprise surprise, India is now signing contracts with France and US for new cooperation on weapons.
India also refuses to use rubles for oil purchases and instead hand out rupees since they’re tired of Russia’s shit.
>according to 3 unnamed sources
Oh okay it’s just slop for normies and boomers, I was actually worried for a second
Unnamed sources called the Russian invasion.Meanwhile those who screech about MUH UNNAMED SOURCES were busy reposting twitter screencaps of RU embassy accounts claiming that "those are excercises*~~*~~"
funny how all these unnamed sources have been right every single day since the beginning of this hilarious attempt at exerting military control over your significantly smaller neighbour and getting embarrassed on a global stage by some hand me down 80s NATO gear that would have cost more to scrap than deliver to Ukraine 🙂
The unnamed sources that said the spring counteroffensive would be a success?
>sources from the ukranian ministry of defence
trust me bro has more legitimacy
>sources from the ukranian ministry of defence
They're not russian, so they don't lie all the time ivan.
both of them have lied so much that made baron munchausen blush
2 more weeks SEEEEEEEEEEEERS
I was joking with people predicting this would happen, also predicted buying ammo in iran and north korea
what is your next prediction, master forecaster?
Nta, but:
>Putin wins next election with 160% of all votes.
>Navalny becomes new minister of defense, shoigu retires to his tuvan samurai castle.
>Ukranian pow are sent as penal units against ukie positions.
>african terminators see battlefield use, do exceptionally well in getting blown up.
>Trump wins reelection by promising to nuke moscow.
Ukraine’s forces just make a big advance in robotyne. It explains all lately of Armatard’s spam and despaired moves of these.
forgot pic
the troops are attaching duckbill grousers on it to improve flotation, since its still a VVSS
>claim picture is a t72
>it's a t64
I hate it