The Shah's Shells

Some russians believe that they are firing american-origin 203mm shells inherited from pre-revolutionary iran. Chat, is this real?

>American 203-mm shells from the M110 self-propelled howitzer in service with Russian artillerymen. The "American" ammunition has a completely identical caliber to the 2S7 "Pion" (Malka) guns and is interchangeable.

>Initially, it was assumed that these 203-mm shells fell into the hands of the Russian Armed Forces as trophies from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, since the United States announced the supply of shells to the Ukrainian "Пиoнaм".

>However, it is most likely that these particular shells in the photo were supplied to Russia from Iran, which in turn were supplied from the United States since the 70s, when the countries were friends. It is precisely this method of appearance of American shells that is also indicated by the previously unknown ammunition under the symbol “Product 203”, which has appeared in the new domestic shooting tables since 2023.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/YSsAqlz.jpeg

      +the other photos in the set, for completeness.

      https://i.imgur.com/Kv84IK1.jpeg

      my name is joel not chat
      and yes they are probably from iran or something
      where else?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The possibility that they still have a large pre-79 stockpile around is interesting.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Especially since they fought an 8 year border war in the 1980s. How many fricking shells did they buy? Or did they lose all of the guns and just had useless ammo then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They bought a shit ton but I’m gonna say they used most of it, at least when it comes to missiles they had to do some interesting things to keep some vehicles in combat. I’m talking like mounting AGM-65 Mavericks to AH-1 Cobras due to a TOW shortage, or mounting Hawk SAMs to F-14s when they began running out of Phoenixes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lot Number ends in '88' = HE filling cast in shell in 1988.
      Shah Reza Pahlavi overthrown in 1979.
      US not shipping shells to Iran after 1988 manufacture.
      Iran-Iraq war ended 1987 so unlikely to be captured from Iraq by Iran
      May have been given to Saddam's Iraq after 1988 and acquired by Iranians in the collapse of Saddam's Ammo Depots and general looting, then passed to Russia.

      Still most likely ex-Ukrainian stock.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lot numbers for old shells don’t contain dates you dumbass. It’s literally just a lot number to say this is 88 out of X number of lots. As an old style of lot number it does not contain a year of manufacture but it is missing the interfix number, which is the number that comes before the 88, which are just serial numbers. So your whole analysis is fricking moronic and false.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Again your analysis is stupid and wrong, the 85 is not a year but is simply the serial number part of the lot number. kys.

          I guess I should add that the new standard for lot numbers was adopted in 1974 so the fact that these shells have an old style lot number means they were manufactured some time before 1974.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Again your analysis is stupid and wrong, the 85 is not a year but is simply the serial number part of the lot number. kys.

            Lot numbers for old shells don’t contain dates you dumbass. It’s literally just a lot number to say this is 88 out of X number of lots. As an old style of lot number it does not contain a year of manufacture but it is missing the interfix number, which is the number that comes before the 88, which are just serial numbers. So your whole analysis is fricking moronic and false.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/8M0lM2n.jpeg

      Some russians believe that they are firing american-origin 203mm shells inherited from pre-revolutionary iran. Chat, is this real?

      >American 203-mm shells from the M110 self-propelled howitzer in service with Russian artillerymen. The "American" ammunition has a completely identical caliber to the 2S7 "Pion" (Malka) guns and is interchangeable.

      >Initially, it was assumed that these 203-mm shells fell into the hands of the Russian Armed Forces as trophies from the Ukrainian Armed Forces, since the United States announced the supply of shells to the Ukrainian "Пиoнaм".

      >However, it is most likely that these particular shells in the photo were supplied to Russia from Iran, which in turn were supplied from the United States since the 70s, when the countries were friends. It is precisely this method of appearance of American shells that is also indicated by the previously unknown ammunition under the symbol “Product 203”, which has appeared in the new domestic shooting tables since 2023.

      Frick Russia finally got some high quality shells.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    +the other photos in the set, for completeness.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those M557 Fuzes have been repacked recently.
      The plastic storage frames in the wooden box are designed to fit one into a standard M2A1 ammo can (".50cal can") holding 8 fuzes in vacuum-seal.
      They've been repacked into the wooden box with improvised cardboard spacers to stop them rattling.
      Again, likely to have been a recent US ammo repack, not Slavic 'ammo logistics' of both Sides which is usually just dump them all loose in an old box.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ghosts from the past

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    last

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      M82 primers Lot year = 1985
      Pre-Shah but not unusual to have remained in US stocks until recently as also used in 155mm Howitzers M198, M777 and M109 SPs, then gifted to Ukraine with M777s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Pre-Shah.
        Oops: *post-Shah but potentially during Iran-Iraq War
        But still unlikely as per previous, and more unlikely that brand new stock would have been shipped between 1985 and 88 when there would be much older stock in US storage to donate first.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Again your analysis is stupid and wrong, the 85 is not a year but is simply the serial number part of the lot number. kys.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    so when will the 203mm be featured in an OnlyFans video like the other ones?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there is only one woman with an ass big enough to take a 203mm shell and her name is yuh mudda

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I watched that b***h take a parking meter in her butthole

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >woman

        Clearly you don't understand the Russian military if you think a woman would be involved..

        The honour of the motor rifle regiment is at stake if some of the battlegroup's twinks doesn't take it. Excluding the command company's twinks since they are banned from taking large insertions to stay as pure trenchwives to the staff officers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          pic unrelated

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not gay, but that greentext makes me feel funny.
          What does that mean?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Me as well anon
            >tfw I dont own 1000 acres to farm, shoot, and get bjs from /lgbt/ twinks in skirts
            Why even live

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It means you're fricking gay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who was that girl anyway I need to know who she is

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing how these shells and fuzes don't look rusted/rotted for being so old.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently the Iranians stored them properly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A desert is going to help with that.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I await further evidence.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >scraped-off UN HCC diamonds
    Not on 70s Era US gifts to Iran.
    70s US ammo packaging didnt use adhesive HD labelling and US commonly used the circle-cross-triangle-diamond Hazard Division labels back then.
    Also unlikely Iranian military would add them post-70s to be UN packaging compliant.
    More likely the adhesive labels were retro-added to US stocks in long-term storage in 90s or later - then gifted to Ukraine, then acquired and used by Russia.

    Iyaayas.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And theyre not shell containers, theyre canisters for the propellant bags.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >iyaayas
      Its "YAT-YAS", anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >if you ain't ammo you ain't shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lot Number ends in '88' = HE filling cast in shell in 1988.
      Shah Reza Pahlavi overthrown in 1979.
      US not shipping shells to Iran after 1988 manufacture.
      Iran-Iraq war ended 1987 so unlikely to be captured from Iraq by Iran
      May have been given to Saddam's Iraq after 1988 and acquired by Iranians in the collapse of Saddam's Ammo Depots and general looting, then passed to Russia.

      Still most likely ex-Ukrainian stock.

      M82 primers Lot year = 1985
      Pre-Shah but not unusual to have remained in US stocks until recently as also used in 155mm Howitzers M198, M777 and M109 SPs, then gifted to Ukraine with M777s.

      Those M557 Fuzes have been repacked recently.
      The plastic storage frames in the wooden box are designed to fit one into a standard M2A1 ammo can (".50cal can") holding 8 fuzes in vacuum-seal.
      They've been repacked into the wooden box with improvised cardboard spacers to stop them rattling.
      Again, likely to have been a recent US ammo repack, not Slavic 'ammo logistics' of both Sides which is usually just dump them all loose in an old box.

      Four posts of technical analysis why these are captured from Ukrainians.

      Russians also believe that if you gang-frick a teenage boy in the ass until he passes out from blood loss you will be immune from bullets and invisible to drones as long as you chant 'ROOTY TOOTY POOTY IS MAH TOOTY TOOTY' while hiding in a foxhole

      Obligatory ukrainian response of Russian sodomy.
      = Ukrainian retreat and capture of dumped US gifted ammunition confirmed by both methods

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the breakdown.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If this came from Ukraine how the frick did they let heavy artillery ammo get captured?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Heavy artillery ammo doesn't get retrograded when you bug-out.
      It's usually been ground-loaded in a gun position and without trucks and MHE to pick it up, in a hurry it just gets left behind as the guns drive off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bulk ammo depots have also changed hands multiple times, especially in the first year before the static trenches set in, instead of having the logistics for hundreds of truckloads all being rapidly transported rearwards in each 'tactical realignment'.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Russians captured a bunch of big bases in the south during the initial invasion.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So before USA gave Ukraine any 203mm ammo?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russians also believe that if you gang-frick a teenage boy in the ass until he passes out from blood loss you will be immune from bullets and invisible to drones as long as you chant 'ROOTY TOOTY POOTY IS MAH TOOTY TOOTY' while hiding in a foxhole

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its american shells given to israel which then gave them to iran during the iran iraq war

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Chat, is this real?
    It is, and don't call me Chat.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia actually uses shells from its inexhaustible supply
    >"lmao it's over they're losing"
    >Ukraine begs for shells for the third time today
    >"wow they must be hecking winning"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >inexhaustible
      While having to buy rusty old nork shells?Is that another gesture of good will?And why did they reduce the amount of shells fired if they have an endless supply?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >its inexhaustible supply
      They are showcasing Iranian shell stockpiles in OP.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Might also be Egyptian shells. Egypt also operates the M110 and they've already supplied Russia with helicopter parts before. Vietnam might also have shells left which originally belonged to the ARVN.

      How is Russia's supply inexhaustible when they're using North Korean and potentially pre-1970s American shells?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how the frick were those shells not fired during the 10 year clusterfrick with iraq? also good luck to the russians getting firing tables for this ammo out of a pion tube

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't buy it, I give it a <2% chance anything fireable would have been overlooked in the war with Iraq, that shit was long and desperate.

    Captcha: MP2 KYS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they sent the people who could count at one point into the electrified swamps instead of children

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BTW what guns does Russia operate that shoots 203mm? Is Pion the only system?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only place Ukraine got M110 shells was from fricking Pakistan, not Iran or any other MENA shithole.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Now I know that both the 2s7 and M110 are 203 mm gun systems, however I always thought that there were enough small difference between the two that ammo was not interchangeable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Chat,

    KYS

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