When it was made the DPRK couldn't make a steel framed skyscraper so they just made a massive 1000 foot concrete pyramid. They could not finish it properly because of economic reasons and because it was so heavy it tilted. According to many sources when they did finish it most of it was just filled in with more rebar and concrete with only a few stories open to the public.
However there are additional non public elevators, staircases ect that still lead to the 'unfinished levels including subway connections. Image related is the buildings core. What if all the 'unfinished' level are just 90% concrete and firing platforms?
Wtf do you do besides using a nuke if you try to invade the city and suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?
OP do you not know what long range ballistic missiles or artillery are?
Oh no, America has no response to this large bunker. If only there was some plane that flies too high to see and is invisible to radar that could drop some pinpoint accurate ordinance specially designed to penetrate concrete... nah, sounds like science fiction.
Is it the Gavin?
Yes.
Always
We now desperately need a 9/11 photoshop of Aero Gavins crashing into the Ryugyong Hotel.
> meester supleme reedeer anoder Gavin has heet de towah!1!1!1!
Good luck gentlemen, do your best with this.
My beloved.
its a famas
With that many guns they can just shoot the bombs out of the sky
>mop
Those things couldn't even kill shin Godzilla
>Those things couldn't even kill shin Godzilla
They were the only conventional weapons that even managed to injure Godzilla in that movie.
They fricked him up so badly he went full disco ball on the rest.
North Korea stole Godzilla technology almost 4 decades ago, they have nothing to fear: Really, they stole the director, his wife and the original guy in the suit as sort of stole the entire Toho effects team:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulgasari
>and the original guy in the suit
they didn't kidnap Kenpachiro Satsuma, they got him to be in it the same way they got the rest of Toho to work on it, lying about actually filming in China
Shin godzilla tanked the entire Japanese military so damaging him is an accomplishment
Even American planes are obese....
And don't you forget it.
Nah, the proper way to assert dominance is to surround the hotel with trenches, so no one can escape; then systematically obliterate it with 600mm siege mortars, only pausing to shell the rubble with poison gas.
maybe make a thread that sucks less cum
No sane army would try to storm that monstrosity. Literally just siege it
>Siege it
What kind of moronic third world army are you talking about? Just blow it the frick up and move on.
>siege
assaulting it would have some nice 40k hive city vibes
It would be a sick bf4 map
>snipers on top of the ridge
>cqb on stairs and corridors
>trenches and craters below, cue ifv morons
>little birds blasting anyone in the windows
>callable cruise missiles to put large holes in it
Instead we got propaganda 乁(•_•)ㄏ
Truly North Korea is best Korea.
Those things were 5-6 stories tall and they can't get rid of them to this day, how the hell do you get rid of one 100+ stories tall?
If that conic top isn't a revolving component of a super-weapon, I'll be really disappointed.
It's either a city-wide force-field or the entire thing is the cap of a mega-missile and that's the seeker-head.
The outer structure is a gantry that falls away at launch.
It's three stacked revolving restaurants, the silver cone with 5 stripes has 5 more revolving observation floors. They have huge 20 foot tall windows.
This is a correct and valid opinion.
They'd cost an estimated $1.2 billion each. Aka the price of an aircraft carrier.
HMMMMMMM
This seems to validate my idea for Ukraine to build 5 Great Pyramid replicas as superfortresses
A fellow big pyramid enjoyer
>replicas
Ukrainians were the ancient egyptians. Why do you think Tutankhamun mask is yellow and blue you fricking vatnik.
They demolished multiple, and they were hard to destroy for WW2 tier bombs with WW2 tier accuracy. MOPs would make short work of them, especially when targeted against the upper floors of your big hotel.
One of them was built by germany, the other by starving commie morons. We'll get rid of it just fine
>cant
Of course they can anon. There's just no reason to and it would be expensive. Its why basically every nazi building just had its logos removed rather than being destroyed completely postwar.
fellow FLAK tower enjoyer I hope Kim will be informed about your post and you properly rewarded
>flak towers so robust that even modern germans who still seethe about their grandfathers can't manage to tear these things down
Truly incredible.
you can put another building on them same with the bunkers. real solid bunder work
You know during the gulf war we thought saddam might have a bunker we couldn’t get a bomb deep enough into.. in response we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end.. whole process went super fast.. I think we have the ability to flatten the pyramid even if it is solid concrete..
Those bombs didn't actually work.
Honestly… do you really care? For fricks sake we took a gun barrel, filled it full of explosives and dropped it from a plane…. Even if it didn’t work at all that’s pretty fast work for an attempted solution… and it eventually led to better purpose built bunker busting designs.
Oh it was damn awesome but we are talking about 1000+ feet of steel reinforced concrete here.
I do care if only because at some point the Hotel of Doom with probably be dead center in a battleground and i'm wondering how do you deal with the damn thing? If Stalingrad was lost over a fricking grain elevator then this thing should be of major concern.
casaba howitzer
To be fair I suspect the bombs in the first gulf war are the reason saddam got away from “my super bunker” and went with “my small dirt spider hole that I don’t tell anyone about” in the second…
Anon, it's not 1000ft thick
The wings are a mere 100
Stalingrad wasn’t lost over the grain elevator, there was a bunch of other stuff that happened as well. You know, like the 6th army getting encircled and stuff.
They did though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTq9yb_Zow
>we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end
Wait? Why? What advantage does making our largest naval gun into a pipe bomb have over any other steel cylinder?
gunbomb
well they were already sitting around
I suppose that's a fine answer. Shot-out and useless, but by-design structurally sturdy and in inventory.
Those barrels were high quality forgings making them reliable penetrators thicker than conventional pipe. Naval facilities of course could cut and machine them. It made perfect sense.
Every now and again, the military impresses me with their ingenuity.
>now searching for a WWIIafterWWII.wordpress article
No we didn't, it was 8 inch barrels and the best 'improved' version could do only 20 feet of steel reinforced concrete.
Allegedly. If you can find the video of Kim Jong Un doing an on the spot inspection of his mysterious "lubrication oil factory" (shhh! Top secret don't tell Putin about this tech!) i believe there are few examples of them, no doubt stolen from Japan via the DPRKs Yakuza connections and shipped to the DPRK via midget submarine.
Look up the lathe that cut the Yamato's guns, the building turned around the barrel.
Holy shit that dude on the left looks worried, i bet the instant Kim was gone he just collapsed on the floor in relief that everything went well.
he seems nicer than his dad but i get why everyone is on edge
do you really not know how communist governments work? shit literally rolls downhill and if you catch the turd you might be dead or gulag'd
t. Radio "Free" Asia (aka CIA cope-ops)
t. someone that never lived in communist country
he is worried because what is coming out of that tube was his co-worker.
>if only you knew how juche things really are
>the lathe that cut the Yamato's guns
Jesus this thing is huge. And it looks identical to a regular sized one, so I'm having some real perspective issues looking at this image
>wtf is anon talking about, there's nothing special about the perspective of this photo
>holy shit that's a person in the foreground
Is it food ?
lt's lubricating oil
No it isn't, it is the core after they built it while they were creating the artificial hill around the base. Tat is about half way though the construction.
He's smiling because he thinks it's taffy.
Same honestly
He's smiling because he knows it's lube and it's going straight to his sex dungeon.
Unlike an actual pyramid, the Ruygyong isn't a single uniform shape. Hit the foundations of the wings hard enough and they'll detach from the main spire and fall over.
There are no foundations, it was built directly onto the bedrock. Everything besides the 'y' shaped core is a add on.
The building tilted slightly because there was a hydraulic crack layer in the bedrock that got pushed down by the ridiculous weight of it. The hill that those layers of buildings around the base is artificial, they are not part of the core structure. The hill was heaped up around the 10+ sub basements/base.
what if we crash a couple 747s into it and tip it over
Much like T-72 autoloaders the wise people of the DPRK rejected steel beams and jet fuel decades ago.
The ammo would probably be somewhere inside the 1000 foot tall building with dozens of elevators and staircases protected by a few million tons of concrete. They *might* have moved it there beforehand in the last 30 years.
Jet fuel doesn't melt concrete beams
>suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?
Sit out for two minutes untill they completely run out of ammo, unable to procure more because they are on floor 50 of a building with barely working elevators.
Or order one artillery barrage right into building. That should probably kill half of them, cooking off ammo for the other half.
Also just demolish it lmao. Secure first floor, bring explosives and turn this shit in a massive tomb.
>t. 12 yo
You have to be 18 to use this website
Literally explain me how are they gonna supply ammo for whole few hundreds autocannons that are supposed to be sitting there?
If the navy could figure out magazine stowage 100 years ago, I don't think it would be too hard.
This slavic anon seems to be unaware that 30 and 57mm auto cannon rounds can be moved by hand or even up an elevator if one had advanced enough technology like a pallet and a hand cart.
do the Koreans possess pallet technology?
Just one of these turrets weighed more than an entire Fletcher class destroyer.
The destroyed tower would be even more difficult to take. In urban warfare destroyed buildings become hardened fighting positions.
>Wtf do you do besides using a nuke if you try to invade the city and suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?
Kill the gun mounts and then just bypass and starve it out. Killing just the exposed guns is gonna take a lot less time and effort than carting in the stupid amount of ordnance you' need to collapse the whole thing.
With gun mounts killed it can be bunker busted and bulk dumb Mark 84ed to rubble.
Good thing that will be so easy to do since they will not be shooting back nor will there be a whole city designed as a commie block fortress filled with 3 million human ants trying to murder you.
The city was literally designed from the ground up as a fortress.
>ect
Etc, short for et cetera.
He’s clearly referring to Electroconvulsive therapy. Maybe it would help with your autism.
Yeah, I'm gonna ignore your question and ask my own since yours is all moronic and shit
Why did the North Koreans ever think this building was a good idea? Even if it was completed and lit up every night it's just such a depressing/oppressive looking building that I can't see any real PR benefits from it
>Why did the North Koreans ever think this building was a good idea?
That picture is before Korea built anything there Anon.
Hotel Dakka?
it's not a flak tower it's a hardened structure, a bunker in disguise. You'll need a bunker buster to bring it down.
I loved that game.
>it's not a flak tower it's a hardened structure
You say that like they're mutually exclusive. All flak towers worth their salt are hardened structures that also serve as bunkers.
All flak towers are hardened structures but not all hardened structures are flak towers - Sun Tzu
Yes but "It's not X it's Y", then going on to describe the attributes both X and Y possess, seems like you're saying X doesn't possess those Yish attributes.
To say that it's not a flak tower because it's a hardened structure and a bunker is illogical, because flak towers are also those things. The proper argument for this structure not being a flak tower is "there's no flak on it"
I think you might be misreading something here, in the game they have not-Ryugyong Tower for a special mission where your target is hiding inside of it, and your radio lady says that the tower is a hardened structure and is basically a bunker. At which point she gives you the ability to call in a bunker buster airstrike on the tower and it crumbles.
No the DPRK has an Occult wing of the military and this "hotel" is some kind of Hell / Soul engine.
Have you seen 13 Ghosts? Yea like the house in the movie but giant and Korean... What do you think they do with all the people they take to the prison camps? Soul Fuel for the portal to the "Outside".....
.45-70 and .45 Long Colt works on ghosts, right
Remember they are Asian ghosts.
.45 ACP then
Don't forget 30-06.
pistols are better for the supernatural (unless you're fighting a skinwalker or something)
Looks spooky
That's a shop
As cool as that would be as part of a movie or something. I highly doubt it.
>However there are additional non public elevators
yes anon most big hotels have special elevators for staff only
That is as good an explanation for that thing as any I have ever read.
>start a fire on the first floor
>walk away as everyone dies
Lol. Lmao.
proppa kino if I say so meself
Just napalm its entrances while shelling the exterior. You don’t need to reduce it to rubble or clear it room by room. Let them expire as the hide within.
Anon it has 10 sub basements with tunnels that include subway connections. You do have to clear it room by room.
He is depressed because they gave him that clean uniform just for the photo and he knows that the one non greasy day of his entire life is about to end.
Plug all the other subway stations, then flood the tunnels with nerve gas. Or light fires down there and smoke them alive.
Great idea, all you have to do is fight a million Norks dug into this hellscape that makes Stalingrad look like a quaint English village first:
more nerve gas
Friendly reminder that ALL of those building are made out of reinforced self supporting concrete, the DPRK literally doesn't believe in steel framed buildings.
Guess what one of their biggest exports is? Really hard high quality military grade cement.
Anon the US doesn't have that any more, in fact there really is only one nation on earth that has significant amounts of nerve gas these days, guess which one?
The recipes have not been lost to history. Wanting nerve gas is simply a matter of paying somebody to make it.
I am reasonably sure the USA isn't going to start a crash program to gas civilian population centers anytime soon, especially against a foe who is better prepared and equipped to retaliate than we are..
>>I am reasonably sure the USA isn't going to start a crash program to gas civilian population centers anytime soon,
Yeah well I'm pretty sure the US isn't going to be invading Pyongyang anytime soon either. The whole scenario is an outlandish "what if".
Our war plans for the DPRK very much involve invading and occupying the entire country, one would assume that the capital was inside the country.
Sure, but in most likelihood those war-plans will never be put to use.
also
>better prepared and equipped to retaliate
They aren't, the have stockpiled gas but little ability to strike against the US with it.
If we are invading Pyongyang i think that MAYBE they might be able to use a few of their 10,000+ artillery pieces or thousands of ballistic missiles to deliver that stuff.
None of their artillery can touch America, and few of their ballistic missiles would get through Aegis. Meanwhile American missiles and stealth bombers can strike all of North Korea with impunity. That is, if we're assuming a fantasy scenario where this is a US / North Korea war, not a US / China war with North Korea as a sideshow.
We have literally been preparing for war with each other for 70 years, you need to be 18 to use this site?
Probably because shit like Pyongyang's architecture served its purpose which is to deter invasion.
>dude trust me the US has spent decades specifically to prepare for a fight with NK
Least egocentric norf korean.
>We have literally been preparing for war with each other for 70 years
You're being unnecessarily argumentative, I never claimed otherwise. Planning for a war doesn't mean that war is likely to happen. The US plans for war with Canada but that's obviously not going to happen (again.)
A battle to take Pyongyang will almost certainly never happen, because as you say, it would be a complete quagmire. But if we hypothesis a scenario where it's being done despite that, then nerve gas is the best tactic. Much better to mass urban combat in a reinforced concrete maze. The US can manufacture as much nerve gas as it needs, can strike targets deep inside North Korea with impunity, and can intercept most of North Korea's ballistic missiles.
The issue is no matter the utility the US would simply never use gas warfare, it would have to be taken via conventional combat. There additionally has never been a single example of gas warfare being used against a prepared and equally equipped opponent that actually affected the outcome of the conflict. In fact every example of it's use has resulted in the side initiating gas warfare loosing the conflict, in no small part due to the outrage it caused.
The French won the first world war though.
The city and all it's buildings were built from the ground up to resist bombardment and serve as a fortress, imagine that stalingrad was deliberately designed for defense from the first brick but is three times larger.
>the_last_redoubt.jpg
Based. What I wouldn't give for a kino based on The Night Land. They'd ruin it of course but a man can dream.
Can one go on vacation to NK?
I don't think US citizens are allowed (I might be totally wrong) but yeah you can. Usually you fly in via Beijing. I looked at it a few years back but the coof derailed my plans. I was going to use a company called Koryo Tours.
NEAT
What were you planning on doing?
You don't get much choice once you're there, you can't like wander around without your Nork "guide" who is actually a minder who makes sure you don't do or record anything they don't want you to. The tour I was looking at was fly in to Pyongyang, couple of days there, a day at Kaesong at the DMZ, a day at Wonsan and Hamhung, then back to Pyongyang and return to Beijing on the sleeper train.
very cool, anon.
I bet it's an abattoir in there.
Use the Master Word to sneak some saboteurs inside the redoubt.