The Ryugyong Hotel is a 1000 flak tower, change my mind

When it was made the DPRK couldn't make a steel framed skyscraper so they just made a massive 1000 foot concrete pyramid. They could not finish it properly because of economic reasons and because it was so heavy it tilted. According to many sources when they did finish it most of it was just filled in with more rebar and concrete with only a few stories open to the public.

However there are additional non public elevators, staircases ect that still lead to the 'unfinished levels including subway connections. Image related is the buildings core. What if all the 'unfinished' level are just 90% concrete and firing platforms?

Wtf do you do besides using a nuke if you try to invade the city and suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP do you not know what long range ballistic missiles or artillery are?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no, America has no response to this large bunker. If only there was some plane that flies too high to see and is invisible to radar that could drop some pinpoint accurate ordinance specially designed to penetrate concrete... nah, sounds like science fiction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it the Gavin?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Always

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Always

        Always

        We now desperately need a 9/11 photoshop of Aero Gavins crashing into the Ryugyong Hotel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > meester supleme reedeer anoder Gavin has heet de towah!1!1!1!

          Good luck gentlemen, do your best with this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My beloved.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its a famas

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      With that many guns they can just shoot the bombs out of the sky

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mop
      Those things couldn't even kill shin Godzilla

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Those things couldn't even kill shin Godzilla

        They were the only conventional weapons that even managed to injure Godzilla in that movie.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They fucked him up so badly he went full disco ball on the rest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >mop
          Those things couldn't even kill shin Godzilla

          North Korea stole Godzilla technology almost 4 decades ago, they have nothing to fear: Really, they stole the director, his wife and the original guy in the suit as sort of stole the entire Toho effects team:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulgasari

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >and the original guy in the suit
            they didn't kidnap Kenpachiro Satsuma, they got him to be in it the same way they got the rest of Toho to work on it, lying about actually filming in China

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Shin godzilla tanked the entire Japanese military so damaging him is an accomplishment

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even American planes are obese....

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And don't you forget it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, the proper way to assert dominance is to surround the hotel with trenches, so no one can escape; then systematically obliterate it with 600mm siege mortars, only pausing to shell the rubble with poison gas.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    maybe make a thread that sucks less cum

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No sane army would try to storm that monstrosity. Literally just siege it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Siege it
      What kind of retarded third world army are you talking about? Just blow it the fuck up and move on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >siege
      assaulting it would have some nice 40k hive city vibes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It would be a sick bf4 map
      >snipers on top of the ridge
      >cqb on stairs and corridors
      >trenches and craters below, cue ifv retards
      >little birds blasting anyone in the windows
      >callable cruise missiles to put large holes in it
      Instead we got propaganda 乁(•_•)ㄏ

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Truly North Korea is best Korea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those things were 5-6 stories tall and they can't get rid of them to this day, how the hell do you get rid of one 100+ stories tall?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If that conic top isn't a revolving component of a super-weapon, I'll be really disappointed.
        It's either a city-wide force-field or the entire thing is the cap of a mega-missile and that's the seeker-head.
        The outer structure is a gantry that falls away at launch.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's three stacked revolving restaurants, the silver cone with 5 stripes has 5 more revolving observation floors. They have huge 20 foot tall windows.

          https://i.imgur.com/pLhwq3u.jpg

          [...]

          This seems to validate my idea for Ukraine to build 5 Great Pyramid replicas as superfortresses

          This is a correct and valid opinion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They'd cost an estimated $1.2 billion each. Aka the price of an aircraft carrier.

            HMMMMMMM

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh it was damn awesome but we are talking about 1000+ feet of steel reinforced concrete here.

        I do care if only because at some point the Hotel of Doom with probably be dead center in a battleground and i'm wondering how do you deal with the damn thing? If Stalingrad was lost over a fucking grain elevator then this thing should be of major concern.

        This seems to validate my idea for Ukraine to build 5 Great Pyramid replicas as superfortresses

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A fellow big pyramid enjoyer

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >replicas
          Ukrainians were the ancient egyptians. Why do you think Tutankhamun mask is yellow and blue you fucking vatnik.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They demolished multiple, and they were hard to destroy for WW2 tier bombs with WW2 tier accuracy. MOPs would make short work of them, especially when targeted against the upper floors of your big hotel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        One of them was built by germany, the other by starving commie retards. We'll get rid of it just fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cant
        Of course they can anon. There's just no reason to and it would be expensive. Its why basically every nazi building just had its logos removed rather than being destroyed completely postwar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fellow FLAK tower enjoyer I hope Kim will be informed about your post and you properly rewarded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >flak towers so robust that even modern germans who still seethe about their grandfathers can't manage to tear these things down
      Truly incredible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you can put another building on them same with the bunkers. real solid bunder work

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know during the gulf war we thought saddam might have a bunker we couldn’t get a bomb deep enough into.. in response we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end.. whole process went super fast.. I think we have the ability to flatten the pyramid even if it is solid concrete..

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those bombs didn't actually work.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly… do you really care? For fucks sake we took a gun barrel, filled it full of explosives and dropped it from a plane…. Even if it didn’t work at all that’s pretty fast work for an attempted solution… and it eventually led to better purpose built bunker busting designs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh it was damn awesome but we are talking about 1000+ feet of steel reinforced concrete here.

          I do care if only because at some point the Hotel of Doom with probably be dead center in a battleground and i'm wondering how do you deal with the damn thing? If Stalingrad was lost over a fucking grain elevator then this thing should be of major concern.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            casaba howitzer

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair I suspect the bombs in the first gulf war are the reason saddam got away from “my super bunker” and went with “my small dirt spider hole that I don’t tell anyone about” in the second…

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, it's not 1000ft thick

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The wings are a mere 100

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stalingrad wasn’t lost over the grain elevator, there was a bunch of other stuff that happened as well. You know, like the 6th army getting encircled and stuff.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They did though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJTq9yb_Zow

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end
      Wait? Why? What advantage does making our largest naval gun into a pipe bomb have over any other steel cylinder?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        gunbomb

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well they were already sitting around

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I suppose that's a fine answer. Shot-out and useless, but by-design structurally sturdy and in inventory.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Those barrels were high quality forgings making them reliable penetrators thicker than conventional pipe. Naval facilities of course could cut and machine them. It made perfect sense.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Every now and again, the military impresses me with their ingenuity.
          >now searching for a WWIIafterWWII.wordpress article

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/Bt21izt.jpg

          >we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end
          Wait? Why? What advantage does making our largest naval gun into a pipe bomb have over any other steel cylinder?

          You know during the gulf war we thought saddam might have a bunker we couldn’t get a bomb deep enough into.. in response we took scrap 16 inch gun barrels, put a fin kit on them, filled them with explosives and put a pointy tip on the other end.. whole process went super fast.. I think we have the ability to flatten the pyramid even if it is solid concrete..

          No we didn't, it was 8 inch barrels and the best 'improved' version could do only 20 feet of steel reinforced concrete.

          do the Koreans possess pallet technology?

          Allegedly. If you can find the video of Kim Jong Un doing an on the spot inspection of his mysterious "lubrication oil factory" (shhh! Top secret don't tell Putin about this tech!) i believe there are few examples of them, no doubt stolen from Japan via the DPRKs Yakuza connections and shipped to the DPRK via midget submarine.

          Every now and again, the military impresses me with their ingenuity.
          >now searching for a WWIIafterWWII.wordpress article

          Look up the lathe that cut the Yamato's guns, the building turned around the barrel.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit that dude on the left looks worried, i bet the instant Kim was gone he just collapsed on the floor in relief that everything went well.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              he seems nicer than his dad but i get why everyone is on edge

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                do you really not know how communist governments work? shit literally rolls downhill and if you catch the turd you might be dead or gulag'd

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                t. Radio "Free" Asia (aka CIA cope-ops)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                t. someone that never lived in communist country

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              he is worried because what is coming out of that tube was his co-worker.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >if only you knew how juche things really are

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the lathe that cut the Yamato's guns
            Jesus this thing is huge. And it looks identical to a regular sized one, so I'm having some real perspective issues looking at this image

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >wtf is anon talking about, there's nothing special about the perspective of this photo
              >holy shit that's a person in the foreground

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is it food ?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              lt's lubricating oil

              https://i.imgur.com/NHNRxVV.jpg

              That's a shop

              No it isn't, it is the core after they built it while they were creating the artificial hill around the base. Tat is about half way though the construction.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is it food ?

            He's smiling because he thinks it's taffy.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Same honestly

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He's smiling because he knows it's lube and it's going straight to his sex dungeon.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unlike an actual pyramid, the Ruygyong isn't a single uniform shape. Hit the foundations of the wings hard enough and they'll detach from the main spire and fall over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are no foundations, it was built directly onto the bedrock. Everything besides the 'y' shaped core is a add on.

      The building tilted slightly because there was a hydraulic crack layer in the bedrock that got pushed down by the ridiculous weight of it. The hill that those layers of buildings around the base is artificial, they are not part of the core structure. The hill was heaped up around the 10+ sub basements/base.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what if we crash a couple 747s into it and tip it over

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Much like T-72 autoloaders the wise people of the DPRK rejected steel beams and jet fuel decades ago.

          Literally explain me how are they gonna supply ammo for whole few hundreds autocannons that are supposed to be sitting there?

          The ammo would probably be somewhere inside the 1000 foot tall building with dozens of elevators and staircases protected by a few million tons of concrete. They *might* have moved it there beforehand in the last 30 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Jet fuel doesn't melt concrete beams

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?
    Sit out for two minutes untill they completely run out of ammo, unable to procure more because they are on floor 50 of a building with barely working elevators.
    Or order one artillery barrage right into building. That should probably kill half of them, cooking off ammo for the other half.
    Also just demolish it lmao. Secure first floor, bring explosives and turn this shit in a massive tomb.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. 12 yo
      You have to be 18 to use this website

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Literally explain me how are they gonna supply ammo for whole few hundreds autocannons that are supposed to be sitting there?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If the navy could figure out magazine stowage 100 years ago, I don't think it would be too hard.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This slavic anon seems to be unaware that 30 and 57mm auto cannon rounds can be moved by hand or even up an elevator if one had advanced enough technology like a pallet and a hand cart.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              do the Koreans possess pallet technology?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just one of these turrets weighed more than an entire Fletcher class destroyer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The destroyed tower would be even more difficult to take. In urban warfare destroyed buildings become hardened fighting positions.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wtf do you do besides using a nuke if you try to invade the city and suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?

    Kill the gun mounts and then just bypass and starve it out. Killing just the exposed guns is gonna take a lot less time and effort than carting in the stupid amount of ordnance you' need to collapse the whole thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      With gun mounts killed it can be bunker busted and bulk dumb Mark 84ed to rubble.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Wtf do you do besides using a nuke if you try to invade the city and suddenly this thing opens up with several hundred autocannons?

        Kill the gun mounts and then just bypass and starve it out. Killing just the exposed guns is gonna take a lot less time and effort than carting in the stupid amount of ordnance you' need to collapse the whole thing.

        Good thing that will be so easy to do since they will not be shooting back nor will there be a whole city designed as a commie block fortress filled with 3 million human ants trying to murder you.

        The city was literally designed from the ground up as a fortress.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ect
    Etc, short for et cetera.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He’s clearly referring to Electroconvulsive therapy. Maybe it would help with your autism.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, I'm gonna ignore your question and ask my own since yours is all retarded and shit
    Why did the North Koreans ever think this building was a good idea? Even if it was completed and lit up every night it's just such a depressing/oppressive looking building that I can't see any real PR benefits from it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why did the North Koreans ever think this building was a good idea?
      That picture is before Korea built anything there Anon.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous.

    Hotel Dakka?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not a flak tower it's a hardened structure, a bunker in disguise. You'll need a bunker buster to bring it down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I loved that game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's not a flak tower it's a hardened structure
      You say that like they're mutually exclusive. All flak towers worth their salt are hardened structures that also serve as bunkers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All flak towers are hardened structures but not all hardened structures are flak towers - Sun Tzu

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but "It's not X it's Y", then going on to describe the attributes both X and Y possess, seems like you're saying X doesn't possess those Yish attributes.

          To say that it's not a flak tower because it's a hardened structure and a bunker is illogical, because flak towers are also those things. The proper argument for this structure not being a flak tower is "there's no flak on it"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes but "It's not X it's Y", then going on to describe the attributes both X and Y possess, seems like you're saying X doesn't possess those Yish attributes.

        To say that it's not a flak tower because it's a hardened structure and a bunker is illogical, because flak towers are also those things. The proper argument for this structure not being a flak tower is "there's no flak on it"

        I think you might be misreading something here, in the game they have not-Ryugyong Tower for a special mission where your target is hiding inside of it, and your radio lady says that the tower is a hardened structure and is basically a bunker. At which point she gives you the ability to call in a bunker buster airstrike on the tower and it crumbles.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No the DPRK has an Occult wing of the military and this "hotel" is some kind of Hell / Soul engine.

    Have you seen 13 Ghosts? Yea like the house in the movie but giant and Korean... What do you think they do with all the people they take to the prison camps? Soul Fuel for the portal to the "Outside".....

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      .45-70 and .45 Long Colt works on ghosts, right

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Remember they are Asian ghosts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          .45 ACP then

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget 30-06.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              pistols are better for the supernatural (unless you're fighting a skinwalker or something)

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks spooky

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a shop

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As cool as that would be as part of a movie or something. I highly doubt it.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >However there are additional non public elevators
    yes anon most big hotels have special elevators for staff only

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That is as good an explanation for that thing as any I have ever read.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >start a fire on the first floor
    >walk away as everyone dies

    Lol. Lmao.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    proppa kino if I say so meself

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just napalm its entrances while shelling the exterior. You don’t need to reduce it to rubble or clear it room by room. Let them expire as the hide within.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon it has 10 sub basements with tunnels that include subway connections. You do have to clear it room by room.

      https://i.imgur.com/7zLhtg6.png

      >if only you knew how juche things really are

      He is depressed because they gave him that clean uniform just for the photo and he knows that the one non greasy day of his entire life is about to end.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Plug all the other subway stations, then flood the tunnels with nerve gas. Or light fires down there and smoke them alive.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Great idea, all you have to do is fight a million Norks dug into this hellscape that makes Stalingrad look like a quaint English village first:

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            more nerve gas

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Friendly reminder that ALL of those building are made out of reinforced self supporting concrete, the DPRK literally doesn't believe in steel framed buildings.

            Guess what one of their biggest exports is? Really hard high quality military grade cement.

            more nerve gas

            Anon the US doesn't have that any more, in fact there really is only one nation on earth that has significant amounts of nerve gas these days, guess which one?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The recipes have not been lost to history. Wanting nerve gas is simply a matter of paying somebody to make it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am reasonably sure the USA isn't going to start a crash program to gas civilian population centers anytime soon, especially against a foe who is better prepared and equipped to retaliate than we are..

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >>I am reasonably sure the USA isn't going to start a crash program to gas civilian population centers anytime soon,
                Yeah well I'm pretty sure the US isn't going to be invading Pyongyang anytime soon either. The whole scenario is an outlandish "what if".

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Our war plans for the DPRK very much involve invading and occupying the entire country, one would assume that the capital was inside the country.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, but in most likelihood those war-plans will never be put to use.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                also
                >better prepared and equipped to retaliate
                They aren't, the have stockpiled gas but little ability to strike against the US with it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If we are invading Pyongyang i think that MAYBE they might be able to use a few of their 10,000+ artillery pieces or thousands of ballistic missiles to deliver that stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                None of their artillery can touch America, and few of their ballistic missiles would get through Aegis. Meanwhile American missiles and stealth bombers can strike all of North Korea with impunity. That is, if we're assuming a fantasy scenario where this is a US / North Korea war, not a US / China war with North Korea as a sideshow.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                We have literally been preparing for war with each other for 70 years, you need to be 18 to use this site?

                Sure, but in most likelihood those war-plans will never be put to use.

                Probably because shit like Pyongyang's architecture served its purpose which is to deter invasion.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >dude trust me the US has spent decades specifically to prepare for a fight with NK
                Least egocentric norf korean.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >We have literally been preparing for war with each other for 70 years
                You're being unnecessarily argumentative, I never claimed otherwise. Planning for a war doesn't mean that war is likely to happen. The US plans for war with Canada but that's obviously not going to happen (again.)

                A battle to take Pyongyang will almost certainly never happen, because as you say, it would be a complete quagmire. But if we hypothesis a scenario where it's being done despite that, then nerve gas is the best tactic. Much better to mass urban combat in a reinforced concrete maze. The US can manufacture as much nerve gas as it needs, can strike targets deep inside North Korea with impunity, and can intercept most of North Korea's ballistic missiles.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The issue is no matter the utility the US would simply never use gas warfare, it would have to be taken via conventional combat. There additionally has never been a single example of gas warfare being used against a prepared and equally equipped opponent that actually affected the outcome of the conflict. In fact every example of it's use has resulted in the side initiating gas warfare loosing the conflict, in no small part due to the outrage it caused.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The French won the first world war though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The city and all it's buildings were built from the ground up to resist bombardment and serve as a fortress, imagine that stalingrad was deliberately designed for defense from the first brick but is three times larger.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the_last_redoubt.jpg

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based. What I wouldn't give for a kino based on The Night Land. They'd ruin it of course but a man can dream.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can one go on vacation to NK?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think US citizens are allowed (I might be totally wrong) but yeah you can. Usually you fly in via Beijing. I looked at it a few years back but the coof derailed my plans. I was going to use a company called Koryo Tours.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NEAT
        What were you planning on doing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You don't get much choice once you're there, you can't like wander around without your Nork "guide" who is actually a minder who makes sure you don't do or record anything they don't want you to. The tour I was looking at was fly in to Pyongyang, couple of days there, a day at Kaesong at the DMZ, a day at Wonsan and Hamhung, then back to Pyongyang and return to Beijing on the sleeper train.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            very cool, anon.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bet it's an abattoir in there.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Use the Master Word to sneak some saboteurs inside the redoubt.

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