The real life, realistic reasons for owning such a rifle... They have to be fairly few and far between, right? How many times would a law-abiding citizen, living a normal, non criminal life, be expected to run into a platoon's worth of well trained wild hog operatives?
yeah
Because I want to own one. Delete this bait this instance
The hunting capabilities, and I mean real life, one shot one kill capabilities, of a 5.56 NATO.... Like, a fox? Maybe?
And from a revolutionary stand point.. you don't have machine guns, or artillery, ir air support... Why even brothers?
223 can kill a deer. it can even kill an elk. it can very easily kill hogs. You're dumb.
Recommend you do not try to kill a hog with a .223 unless you want to get Bobby B'ed
I mean, yeah it might, but do you want to roll those dice
I drop piggers with m193 out of my 1:12 nearly every weekend, take your chode barrel take somewhere else.
I killed hogs with a 5.45x39 and there’s .223/5.56 rounds specifically sold for hog hunting. That said will I hunt hogs with .223/5.56 rounds from a distance greater than a 100 yards? No, most places I go to hunt hogs are on a buddy’s property that’s pretty much chopped up into 100 yard grids.
Youd have greater success (and be a much more ethical hunter) if you shot them with a real big-boy calibre instead. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Just sayin'...
I don't have your tremors or cataracts so I don't need to blow out a shoulder to stand a chance of finding my kill.
I could easily kill a blue whale with a .22lr under the right circumstances. Does that make .22lr the ultimate hunting calibre?
Well, you actually probably couldn't.
Sure I could. One shot in the blow hole, one kill. .22lr all you need. Rim fire undefeated, GOAT
Plenty of dudes managed it in the depression. Or are you under the impression the only rounds that exist for 5.56 are 55gr fmj?
Well Elmer with the 5.45 I didn’t leave the house intending to hunt hogs but rather coyotes. More like buddy slid into a small ravine and startled a sounding when he landed ten feet from them. Most ran off in the opposite direction and a few charged him with four of us pumping rounds into the five charging after him we managed to get them. Plus, most of the times we go hunting for hogs it’s more for extermination than food. There’s simply too many of the damn things. So we pretty disembowel them, jam our hands around their intestines while another pulls, which then leaves this long trail of organs and leave it in the open for the coyotes. That way the coyotes leave the cows alone.
I'm sorry, but this just makes you sound like shitty hunters. Of course you need a shit load of fire power, if you're just gonna stumble upon wild animals like a bunch of bafoons
400lb whitetail are regular around your place I take it?
I gotta ask do you just hunt during the day and never at night?
Uh, yes? Why, in the frick, would you hunt during the night?
...For frick sakes. Okay, in places like Texas as an example wild hogs are primarily active at night unlike places that has considerably more forest to cover their tracks. So, the best way to get the most of them at any one time to cull their population is during the evening. Other places you can hunt Coyotes or other predators in the dark as well. As such some of the more lucky shooters can nail 70+ in an evening of wild hogs and there's a guy who goes by Ultimate Night Vision who I think got 190 in a single evening. Before you ask it's not to eat it's to keep their damn population under control. Hogs are stupid but clever. Traps only work so many times before they learn and you have to change it up. There would be times where you can set off a trap but if you don't get them all the smarter of them will remember what happened the last time then keep the new sounder for falling for it again. If you haven't ever tried it I would at least try doing one night hunt in your life because it brings an entirely different...I'm trying to think of the word but the closest I can think of is environment.
30 5.56 rounds should handle any hog in existence, even those 400 lb monsters in Arkansas
A .22lr can kill a polar bear, under the right circumstances. How many polar explorers bring Rugers .22s on their expeditions?
https://www.ammoland.com/2020/10/bear-attacks-and-20-instances-of-22-rimfire-used-for-survival/
There’s been a picture of a polar protection guy with an AR platform rifle floating around here
Sure is lots of no-hunts in here huh? Shot placement>everything
>muh reasons
Frick off. Kyle rittenhouse is why.
I have killed more deer with .223 than most hunters have killed with anything. Hell, a lot of them were with 5.56 ball ammo. Never had one run more than a hundred yards. People who say .223 isn't enough for deer are moronic.
5.56 is OKish for deer, if you know what you are doing. If you're reliably killing deer with .223, tip of the hat to you. The question still remains, though. Why not use a real hunting calibre rifle instead? Why settle for some pea shooter, when you can get a real gun for less?
I've seen people lose deer with .300 win mag. Skill and knowledge are far more important than caliber. And the rifle I am most skilled and capable with is my AR.
Deer weigh less than most people and 5.56 is fine for killing them. People that say you can't hunt deer with ARs are morons.
Post deer
Post guns
Post hunts
Or shut the frick up hypothecating about shit you don’t know
>calibre
imagine my surprise
Begone shill.
Kek. When will this tired argument fricking die? Muj and NVA and every successful resistance movement used weapons that were recovered from the enemy or considered antiquated.
Don't worry anon.
OP has already outed himself as a colossal homosexual and a charlatan.
Feel free to shitpost
>you won’t have any real military support in the event of a revolution because…uh…because I say so okay?
I hunt man.
>Why even brothers?
oh I don't have to win. I just need to find the politician who is being a tyrant and drag him and his family from their homes and Muammar Gaddafi them with a knife.
Not a lot of people want to go out like Gaddafi, fricked in the ass to death with a knife on livestream
I just own one for shits and giggles and I can pretend I am training to kill Russians if they invade Finland in the year 2203. Mostly larping to be honest.
The purpose of the gun is not to shoot 30 home invaders, it is to shoot one home invader 30 times.
nice anderson lower
Still liking that optics setup? Ever use it with NV?
Incredibly based
When I'm defending my life, and my cat, I want the most effective tool for the job.
I want to be able to mag dump on the Black person dumb enough to step foot in my house or threaten my life. I don't want a fair fight.
Serious question. Is there any reasonable way to prevent your pets' eardrums getting blasted in an indoor firefight?
a suppressor
You shouldn't even need a reason; you should be able to own guns just because
But you're not allowed to own "the good shit". Mortars, artillery, 7.62 belt fed machine guns, fricking gun ships.... Why even bother? It's so futile
You are allowed to own those things, just not if you're poor.
Weapons are useful tools which is why they exist. There are a million uses for a good gun.
But an AR is not a good gun, for civillian use. It is a neat gun for infantry. But other than LARPing, why even bother, as a civillian?
Define civilian use Elmer.
What do you even hope to achieve, with a semi-auto .223, in a "civillian" capacity? Most of you aren't even trained for "it", and the few of you who are, are not trained for training others. And even if you where, at the end of the day.... A million ARs, against one single M1 Abrahms with air support... Why even bother?
Haven't had to dust this one off in a while.
Tell me Mr. Shatner, what do you hope to achieve if you were to ban the AR-15 market?
Abrahms can’t sit on every street corner in the US enforcing marshal law
Yeah and that's why we have
Because I can murder the crew and their families in their homes. Mf dobt live in their equipment.
It's so easy to win a war, if you imagine your enemy will just stand by and do nothing as you enact your flawless tactics against them. I my self have won many fist fights, just standing in my shower, soaping up my balls
Well if they're cops in Uvalde that's correct. Govt isn't a bunch of fricking John Wick Jedis. Trust me, I was one, most are average idiots at best.
Trained for it? It's a gun you moron, people who shoot guns are trained. Also it's the best tool for home defense the best tool to patrol land the best tool for hunting the best tool for hiking the most fun rifle to shoot and currently the best tool for 2a purposes. Also frick yourself
I can’t shoot the driver of the Abrams. But I can shoot the refueler.
>But an AR is not a good gun, for civillian use
why?
Because you can't hunt anything worth eating with it. You can't conceal carry. OK for home defense, I guess, if you don't mind blowing your and tour entire family's eardrums out.
The only use, the only real tangible use you'll ever have for it... is LARPing.
Carbine ARs clock in ~10dB quieter than HD shotguns, still well above damage thresholds so that's not really an argument and we've come a long way since the 70s, you're not really supposed to hunt game with FMJ and we've had a veritable renaissance of heavy ass expanding ammo available in the box ready to go.
>.222 fireball had years of articles written about it being the whitetail genocider
>Carbine ARs clock in ~10dB quieter than HD shotguns
Imagine believing this shit. Your carbine is going to be just as loud if not louder.
>.222 fireball
That's not even the best part, people were taking medium game left and right with these frickers. I remember all the articles in Shotgun News about these bad boys.
Humans are worth eating, thus it can be used for hunting.
The idea it cant be used for hunting is based on really bad assumptions on what the wounds really are.
Self defense against a capable threat is a justifyable reason to own one as well because people are allowed to prepare and protect themselves when the government wont.
have a nice day
It's the truth. I fear you have succumbed to consoomerism. You can't help your self. You just have to keep throwing money at various multi-national conglomerate arms manufacturers, because you feel it's the only way you can express your patriotism
There are plenty of uses. Hunting is the standard "civilian" use, but it can serve the basic civic duty to protect oneself and country against occupiers.
Those that seek to control you will think twice before kicking down your door if they suspect you are equivalently armed.
It is the right of the citizen to be able to defend themselves with weapons that are discriminate in threat projection. You cannot reasonably account for every piece of shrapnel from an explosive, but you can account for the one-dimensional path of a single trigger-pulled bullet.
>Hunting
How much do you intend on missing?
>but it can serve the basic civic duty to protect oneself and country against occupiers.
Pure fantasy LARP.
>Pure fantasy larp
This bait is so weak holy shit
>noooo, I'm totally going to get to play Wolverines with my friends! it's totally going to happen to me!
>My house will never catch fire, having a smoke detector is pure larp fantasy. What, you want to pretend you're a fireman?
everyone, this is the guy who went into debt for a rifle that he'll never use
I used a credit card that has since been paid off for my optic setup.
I used the same credit card for gas yesterday.
What are you, some kind of moron?
so what did I say that was untrue again?
This is weak bait anon, unless you are really a moron who doesn't understand why you should buy things on credit
Magazine capacity is variable; I can choose to carry 10 or fewer if I choose. Being able to load more is a bonus for other purposes.
Ask the Ukrainians or any other people who have been invaded and occupied if having a capable weapon is "LARP". People have the right to be safe from others, and having the tools is part of that.
>b-but some people in the opening weekss of the invasion of Ukraine saw some excitement, so it could totally happen to me in the US
>comparing being prepared for a situation that happens countless times per year to a situation you have 0% chance of ever encountering
>comparing being prepared for a situation that happens countless times per year to a situation you have 0% chance of ever encountering
Both situations happen countless times a year numbnuts
Nobody will ever be able to invade the US. Our geography makes it a lost cause even if it was militarily plausible (it isnt)
The border is real secure, huh
Elaborate.
It isn't 2003 anymore, dude. There isn't much you'd take with a higher weight retention .308 that you can't take with a 77gr TMK or 73gr ELD(at further distances for the eld, it's a little splashy up close). Unless we're talking moose and up it's perfectly adequate with decent shot placement.
How is a light weight low recoil auto loading rifle not good for civilian use?
Ok NoGuns, every thing you said is backward
>is one of the most versatile and useful firearms of any type for the common person
Good for
>varminting
>hunting
>dangerous game/predator defense
>bipedal game defense
>sport shooting
No one possession can provide the amount of value for you as an AR15
Rember to report gun control threads.
fending off a pack of commies.
>The real life, realistic reasons for owning such a rifle... They have to be fairly few and far between, right?
About 13%.
>The real life, realistic reasons for owning such a rifle
It makes a fine light hunting rifle for deer or hogs. Aside from that its for riots, societal collapse or if the government or the King of England fricks with you.
If there ever is a societal collapse, you'll be up against Predator drones and Apache gun ships. Are you even able to laser-tag a landing strip for a high altitude bombing run, bro?
Yeah, remember when the u.s. military successfully subjected and conquered the Taliban, mujahideen, viet Kong, DPRK, etc?
All of those guys had machine guns and artillery
Lol no they fricking didn't unless you count a couple of rusty PKMs and 60mm mortar tubes scrounged from the ground
The taliban and vc had many frickin machine guns, RPGs, mortars, etc. Dont be economical with the truth to support your argument anon
The DPRK only had rusty PKMs and 60mm mortars? Really? You sound like a Korean War scholar please enlighten me
you know exactly which group I was talking about
>they didn't have nachine guns and artillery if you don't count their machine guns and artillery!
This is a poor example, all of those named got BTFO militarily by the US. The ones who "beat" them were just the patient ones.
Except a fight like that on your home turf invariably means you aren't receiving new gear to replace your losses. Your recruiting pool has joined the other side, your manufacturing base and shipping network has been blown the frick up by you or the other side's saboteurs. Your army faces mass desertions as they're increasingly ordered to fire upon their own friends and family.
But nah, surely you can just whip them straight, it's not like the masters have somewhere else to go and will abandon their lackeys to get tarred and feathered.
That's based on a lot of assumptions anon. How many do you think, in the US, are unironically going to give up their comfy lives to fight the Feds?
Enough will. Even if it's not a huge rebellion at first, it's a situation that often spirals out of control for the government if they don't just appease them somehow. When civilians are caught in the crossfire, when the government starts enforcing more draconian laws on the basis of suppressing them, when they utterly frick up any good will they had left with the American people, suddenly the nation collapses into extreme violence.
They know this already; the nation is a tinderbox just waiting for someone to light a fricking match so it can burst into flames. That's why they defer to just let potential rebels have whatever concessions they want and walk free, like with that ranch standoff. Actually going in with their guns is too much of a risk.
They are afraid, which is why you've been hired for a few shekels per post to come here trying to sow doubt. Poorly, I might add.
I remember US soldier complaining about how underwhelming the 5.56 was in 3 of those conflicts. I also remember how it took something like 20.000 rounds per confirmed kill in the Afghanistan and Iraq war, because most kills came from air support and artillery
Steel core pokes little holes, ammo is free and plentiful thanks to our MIC.
The intermediate cartridge was literally developed because the one shot one killl doctrine is out dated. Artillery and air strikes scores the kills. Infantry is mostly there to paint the target area or call in the strike.
And it's lighter so you can carry more of it, while still being able to kill. They're not paint rounds that mark targets bud.
They have like, what? 80% mortality rate, from most sources? Yeah, good enough for war, not really for hunting, though? I don't know, I guess I'm a weirdo. I just don't like needlessly torturing animals when I go hunting.
>using steel core to hunt
lmao
Well I have to agree with you. The intermediate calibre, developed for modern war fare, fares poorly in a hunting situation. Why, its almost as if you should use a real calibre instead?
They've had heavy bonded bullets on the shelves of Wal-Mart since before your dad was born.
My dad would never use such a shitty calibre for hunting, though.
Because his tremors prevented him from hitting vitals?
No, because it's it's shit cartridge and no real hunter would ever risk a good shot because they can't trust their calibre
Because they can't aim for shit, break the chain anon, spend more than 5 rounds zeroing your scope next year. It's worth it.
You can literally kill God with one good shot of a .22lr. Why isn't. 22lr the end all calibre for all hunting?
Human error
When was the last time you killed an elk with a .22lr?
Elk don't live here.
OK, so what is the biggest thing you ever hunted with an .22lr?
your mother
Coyote
tbh I would feel bad hunting even coyotes with .233
Don't see many cross eyed shooters on here.
He’s never hunted anything, he’s just a european homosexual noguns (but I repeat myself) mad about americans for some reason
>20.000
Own guns before talking europoor.
>yet another moron who does not understand the concept of suppression, fire and maneuver, etc
>30 carbine and winter coats! I was there, it was real!
I can’t believe homosexuals are still making the argument. The government has nukes too. Why not just nuke all of us? Because they need a group of people to rule over. What good is it massacring everyone with apaches and predator missiles if there’s no one left to rule over? To enforce rule of law you need boots on the ground enforcement.
Are you literally fricking insane? Are you a mongoloid? Because they don't want the nuclear fall out to pollute their lands!!!
You could use tanks and air support to kill off the dissidents, and still have all that land to grow crops on.
>tanks and air support
>kill off the dissidents
Wew, You really don't know shit about warfare.
Shit like this is why countries fail.
Ohhh, so do tell... How does the majority of soldiers meet their ends, in modern combat? Is it through small calibre rifle fire? Or through ordinance?
Since your a turbo moron, let me give you an example for when "tanks and air support" are a poor idea for dealing with dissidents.
>Intelligence has located a possible dissident cell in a mid sized town (POP ~25,000)
>Says that the leader is currently living in a home situated in a residential area.
>SEND IN THE AIR FORCE
>Air force bombs the home, killing the reported leader
>Bomb blast accidentally levels several homes adjacent to the target's home
>Bomb accidentally starts a fire, resulting in even more homes getting destroyed and even more fatalities
>Total causalities are estimated to be in the hundreds, including children
>Mission accomplished!
Seriously, you'd make a great tin-pot dictator.
Stop dodging the question with your poorly written insurrectionist fan fiction. During the past 70 years of US military conflicts, what general group of weapons have contributed to the most enemy kills: small calibre rifles, or artillery/air craft carried ordinance?
>what general group of weapons have contributed to the most enemy kills: small calibre rifles, or artillery/air craft carried ordinance?
Counter: What war in that time has the US won using those tactics?
And that example wasn't just a wishful though experiment. I based it off of the 1985 MOVE Bombing in Philadelphia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
See
Begone shill.
Well I have to give you that, the US doesn't really win any wars. But, they DO kill tens of millions of people. Mostly through bombings and artillery.
No point in killing millions of people if the government installed gets overthrown in the end.
>But, they DO kill tens of millions of people. Mostly through bombings and artillery.
So you DO admit that your idea for population control is shit and that small arms are viable.
I suspected it through your replies but it's all but confirmed it; You're nothing but a charlatan who wants nothing to disarm civilians. The AR-15 is nothing but a road bump to you, as it currently serves as one of the best weapons a civilian can buy.
Consider suicide.
Not really. Are you AR owners ready to die by the millions? I don't think you are. Be free to prove me wrong, though, I'd love to watch the carnage. Liberal deep state VS redneck idiots? No matter who dies, I'll get a good laugh
>implying some of us aren't going to use AKs
And still, north korea exists.
Vietnam is still a communist state
The taliban still control afghanistan
Yes, but none of that has anything to do with my original point. You simply don't kill enough people with a good rifle. Artillery and air strikes does all the heavy lifting. You can't kill 20% of a whole country's population with rifles alone, its just not possible
Heavy lifting doesn’t mean shit if the end goal is not accomplished.
A resistance just needs to be long and strenuous enough to where a tyrannical force can’t enforce their laws.
What good is it to be nominally in control, if on the ground, the government holds no policing power?
All it takes is the willingness of the opposing force to die. Die, by the millions. Tens of millions, even. To see their families and friends shredded, bombarded, ground down to a fine paste... A conviction that is sorely lacking in the American nu-male, I'm afraid
You forget the perpetrators of such an act come from and live on the same soil as us. When you’re getting potshotted and ied’d from the very same school your children attend, or from the office where your wife works, dropping a bomb is a lot harder.
You seem to forget that we are living in a post Patriot Act age. Every one of you are monitored, hugely thanks to this very website, and you can't make a single move without Deep State knowing about it. You really thought you could get away with it? That's just what They wanted you to believe
Govt fricks up wet dreams and bankrupts where houses. They can do a lot with their intel gathering but they are far from omnipotent and struggle to process effectively the data they have now with only a limited number of active and possibly dangerous insider threats. In full scale rebellion or resistance they can't even come close.
Hmm... when was the last time there was a successful right wing terrorist attack in the US?
Jan 6th apparently since congress has been shitting it's pants for the last 1.5 years over it.
They're just using it as an excuse to cuck you even harder. And you're just gonna sit there. You're just gonna sit there and take it. Because they know you are pussies, and YOU know you're pussies
You are absolutly ridiculous and truly silly. I mean this is fricking psyops for babys. Get better an a lot less obvious.
Is that it? Is that truly all you have? You have 100 million guns, and this is what you have acomplished?
the Capitol riot: ‘I texted my family that I love them’
Queens lawmakers hunkered down to escape MAGA invasion during debates
For real, thats weak as frick.
Hurr durr we were so scared !!
https://www.qchron.com/editions/inside-the-capitol-riot-i-texted-my-family-that-i-love-them/article_02f15b44-511f-11eb-a9f3-37b6c
Then come to k and pretend to be all whoo were not scared of you rednecks!
Your psyop is shit, and you are being way overpaid (or you're doing it for free) I could do a better job of this.
Jan 6th was weak as shit, if anything. You became the laughing stock of the entire world, and just another excuse for Deep State to crack down even harder on you idiots. Well played, dip shits, well played...
>you won't do shi-
>does shit
>y-you are laughing stock of whole world! I am le epic stock trader man! f-fear meeeeeeeeeee
lol, lmao
Jan 6th was pathetic. You accomplished nothing
It accomplished living in your head rent-free apparently, seeing as you feel the need to make these seethe threads.
I don't care about Jan 6th, some other guy brought it up
And you reacted, didn't you?
I didn't expect that cat
According to pearl clutching homosexuals it's was January 6 2021.
Friendly reminder that the most successful donestic terror attack in American history was right wing.
I mean they were shook for reals.
Well we just have to see and find out.
I’ve still yet to see a justification to outlaw them in this thread so far.
We will never find out, because you don't have the guts. You don't have what it takes. You're not like the Viet Kong, or the Taliban. You're not real men, you're Americans. You don't have the "cojones"
Says the unarmed brit.
The government couldn’t stop looting and chaos in katrina, let alone the BLM riots.
What makes you think they would fare any better in a hypothetical civil war?
Lest not forget conflicts in which the local governments were overthrown
>see the battle of athens, ga
>What makes you think they would fare any better in a hypothetical civil war?
Well, only one way to find out, right? Oh, wait... I forgot about the pussy-ness of the American nu-male
So no argument there.
>you don't neeeeeeeeed the guns
>acktually the guns are useless
>um aaaaacktually you're all evil so do what I say now because I am le good guise
>uhm, aaaaaaaaaaacktuaaaaaalleeeeeeeeeee you won't do it because please just don't
It's true, though. You'll never, ever do anything. Because you are cowards. But, by all means... Prove me wrong
Says the coward that’d rather hide behind the government to disarm us; rather than taking our weapons themselves.
Prove me wrong.
You seem to forget that my side is in power, and always will be. I support the deep state, and they in turn oppose you. And you and your ilk are powerless to stop their onslaught.
Yawn. I still have my ar15, and i still do everything that i want to do. Come and take them. Pussy.
No need to "come and take 'em", because we both know you'll do nothing with 'em. Just keep consooming, I own stocks in all the weapon companies anyway....
>You seem to forget that my side is in power, and always will be
>What is the rate of inflation for 2022?
9.1%
And what, pray tell are you going to do about it? Oh? What's that? Nothing? OK....
Inflation? What the hell do I need to do about it?
The government is eating itself alive in front of our very eyes. I couldn't be happier.
I don't have to do anything. Just sit back and enjoy the show. No matter who dies, I'll get a good laugh :^)
>pushing unpopular policies
>overturning existing popular policies
> literally having to rewrite voting laws to win
>becoming more radical by stubbornly justifying un popular ideas
>instead of just adopting more popular ideas
Yeah, Republicans are fricked - unless they cheat with restrictive voting laws.
>muh inflation
All around the globe. One party in one country cannot do that. But for fun, let's look at the current Republican fiscal policy :
>tax cuts to the rich
>privatization
>deregulation
>trade wars
>more tax cuts for the rich
Really helping "the common man" XD
>Republicans
Opinion discarded. Anyone still clinging to the Blue vs Red mentality in American politics is a brainlet
>Yeah, Republicans are fricked - unless they cheat with restrictive voting laws.
As seen here.
If they have pussies like you stacking to my door, we've already won lmao
Go ahead. Do something, anything, about it. Oh, what's that? You're too much of a pussy?
Sorry SA Smith, your going to have to work harder at it. Just go home, you get the LEAP pay either way bud.
Chicken shit coward. Oh but what did I expect, you're American. Ofcourse you are a pussy.
Oy Gevay!
>No matter who dies, I'll get a good laugh
What faux edgy shit is this?
You have no answer against the ownership of AR-15 weapons, or even weapons in general.
The Imp reveals himself at last.
So, so mad... 🙁
>you have no answer against the ownership of AR-15 weapons
I'm not even sure what an "answer" would even be. All I'm saying is, it's a useless weapon, and you are all suffering from consoomerism. I'm not here to provide solutions, or offer counter arguments, I am simply here to mock you and make fun of your fragile masculinity.
>muh consoomerism
you're just poor and don't own guns
What leads you to believe an AR15 is useless?
No one in a gunfight ever thought “damn i wish i had a less effective weapon”
It's useless for civillians, because you can't really hunt anything with it hhnrp
Says who? Even if you WERE correct the 2nd amendment isn’t for hunting.
Low quality bait.
It has one use that trumps all else. It keeps the government afraid, and shills like you seething.
For that, I consider it priceless.
Keep dancing monkey. These free (You)'s you're feeding me a delicious
The government is not afraid of you, because they know, as much as I and you do, that you'll never do anything. Because you are cowards
It may not be afraid of me, but it's afraid of the 120.50 guns per 100 citizens, in a country with 327 million people.
So what will it be, schlomo?
Also
>that you'll never do anything. Because you are cowards
What, is the FBI monthly entrapment quota's set to reset soon?
You frickers have had over a decade to know that shit doesn't fricking work here.
Keep dancing Black person
Because those worked out so well in Afghanistan, lets use them on your own people and infrastructure!
And the deep state wonders why it's system is collapsing on itself. Good grief.
The Afghani are a hardy, resilient people. You are not. Just... imagine. Dark Brandon turns of your power. No more AC, no more WiFi. Seems bad, right? Well, now he also bombs your children's preschool, ending your entire bloodline with a push of a button.
Are you a bad enough dude to assassinate the president? No, you're not. You're an American nu-male beta.
If the united states military starts bombing preschools, especially one that had your kid in it, you would go around business as usual because you're not john rambo? Go to bed at a good hour and get ready for work the next morning? When a hostile military starts exploding communities, usually afterwords the community refuses to comply or support any part of the occupation. This is why any military does poorly against an insurgency. Any hostile action just creates more soldiers (and generations of soldiers) against you.
Well, thankfully, the US armed forces will not have to worry about that, because you are all pussies and you will never do anything. So it's really a moot point, isn't it?
You're asking someone else to do the job for you again. Sorry homosexual but you're gonna get handed the rifle because the boys in camo would nope the frick out. Have fun dying on someone here's porch down the line
Camo Boys know they won't have to do shit, but because you're to much of a pussy to actually do anything
...You completely ignored the main point. Any wunderweapons or drones that can vaporize half a city block fuel anger against that occupation. Anyone combing through the wreckage to find their love ones would likely become a broken man. It's not a matter of who is a pussy or who is not a pussy.
Luckily, they won't have to deploy any sort of weapons, because you are all pussies and you will never do shit
pussypussypussypussypussypussypussypussy jesus you say that a lot. I guess buddy, I am that massive pussy you're looking for. Anything else I can help you with?
>he admits it
Nah man, that's all I could ever ask for. Thanks for proving my point
You didn't have a point to begin with. Something which that other anon demonstrated.
All you're doing now is going in circles because 74 posters pantsed you in your own thread an exposed you as a shill.
Keep dancing
I accept your concession
What concession? I'm fully against your ideals, who you are as a person and how you use this website.
Not only have you not substantiated your initial claim in the OP, you have provided a net-negative experience in discussing the issue, through belligerent language in your replies, stained use of nearly logically fallacy, and even outright astroturfing.
At this point it should be you throwing up the white flag. No Reddit tier gotcha, insult or thread derailment can save this thread anymore.
Or, you could of course
keep
dancing.
This is, hands down,mone of the most reddit posts on PrepHolel ever. "Logical fallacy", "substantiated your original claim", "keep, dancing".
What the frick, are you doing?
And you deflect again Mr. Shatner.
I admit, that post was much more structural and Plebbit tier then what I'd like, but I did that in attempt to clearly show why you're a massive shill and a gay and maybe, maybe, try and have a legitimate discussion on the issue presented in the OP.
This attempt at shifting to the Reddit issue cements you as homosexual and, worse, as a shill.
Seriously consider killing yourself. You can't even shill correctly.
And Americans successfully rebelled against the largest empire in human history, and proceeded to created one of the most powerful and influential nation state on the planet.
>No more AC, no more WiFi. Seems bad, right? Well, now he also bombs your children's preschool, ending your entire bloodline with a push of a button.
Wow. You must not be aware of the Enkidu Gambit. That was already tried that in Vietnam and the Middle East, and the results show today.
But by all means. Brutalize your citizens. Isolate yourself internationally. Feed the impotent rage you have now. You know you want to.
Oh by all means, I do wish they brutalize their own citizens. But we both know they don't have to. Because you pussies will never actually do anything, so they have already won
>Oh by all means, I do wish they brutalize their own citizens. But we both know they don't have to. Because you pussies will never actually do anything, so they have already won
>Continues to ignore the Enkidu Gambit
Wew lads. We have a moron in our midst.
And do you really consider the government to be winning? Because what I see is a government increasingly becoming more and more desperate to hold onto power all the while further alienating it's own citizens in favor of dwindling international interests.
If you consider that winning, by all means, stay winning girl boss!
Might I ask, how's that entrapment quota going?
>mogged by aluminum foil
Leveling a whole apartment block of democrats just to kill one “white supremacist” rebel will really help your cause
Yes
Because that worked so well in Afghanistan
You're the one arguing fighting the gov is pointless cause its hard. You b***hmade NPC pussy, get back on your s o ylent and blacked diet.
>MOVE
Kek my grandfather blasted a guy in that shitshow with his .38. First day he wore a ballistic vest and the first day he got shot too.
When the other divisions of the VA national guard flooded the capitol, why did they all carry ARs, and not setup artillery, landmines, etc? Could it be because partisan warfare (real or imagined) in friendly cities is not waged with heavy weapons? How come they sent people with ARs to Mar-a-Lago and didn’t use HIMARS to raid it? You are pretty dumb even for shills.
if theres ever a "societal collapse" those drone pilots and tank crews are gonna need to feed/defend their families. What % of the military needs to bounce to render it ineffective?
Only 10% of the military is "combat arms" and a smaller percent of that is actual doorkickers
What percent of hard mofos do you think are going to take up arms against civvies? Because they probably dont vote, much less vote Dem.
They'll probably just bomb you, with NATO and the UN making excuses for war crimes as they've done for the last 50 years or so
>How many times would a law-abiding citizen, living a normal, non criminal life, be expected to run into a platoon's worth of well trained wild hog operatives?
Cops are all over the place, OP
You will never shoot a cop. Not even in your own best-case-scenario will you ever do such a thing. And even if you did, the State would respond ten fold, with dozens of rifles (at the very least) of their own, and you and your entire family would die. Alone, afraid, and for nothing...,
I DON'T SEE THE WORD "REALISTIC" IN THE GODDAMN SECOND FRICKING AMENDMENT OP
YOU KNOW WHAT I DO SEE THOUGH?
>THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
>SHALL
>NOT
>BE
>INFRINGED
Hey you frickstain Black, look at this:
I don’t need to justify a goddamned thing to you. If I want to buy an AR specifically for shooting Feds in the fricking face (the best usage), or set one up to hunt, or to make it a pure range toy, that’s my business. have a nice day. Livestream your suicide for us right fricking now you worthless pile of hooker spit. Do it.
You are an unhinged, blood-thirsty idiot, and in a just world you would never own a firearm
You are a greasy cum-guzzling peasant who has zero life experience, daring to speak as though you know a thing about firearms or their usage. You and your kind have no business demanding demonstration of a NEEEED to exercise a Right. have a nice day. Do it. Do it right now.
Even more unhinged comments from the 2A crowd. Jesus, you are a blood thirsty bunch, aren't ya?
In a just world you'd be forced to swallow molten brass as we laugh at your writhing little frickpuppet of a body attempting to scream.
So you love ARs, and also you wish to execute me through torturous means, and you refer to me as a "frick-puppet". Yeah, totally not unhinged, at all
I don't give a frick what you think Black person, none of your arguments are made in good faith. Every time you homosexuals make these threads I think about how I could cause you the most pain possible.
Cry more, your moral posturing is as worthless as your life is. Call me a bloodthirsty sociopath if you want to, I no longer care. I just want to hurt you and display your corpse as an example to the rest.
You are so mad right now. I have never been this angry in my life. I have never known anyone who's been this mad. You have a lot of growing up to do. Good luck, man. You'll need it
So, so mad... 🙁
So, so moronic
On the contrary I would relish the opportunity for a good slaughter. I wonder what your flesh would taste like roasted. Probably as good as any cheap cattle would, lamb or pork. Good enough to sustain me. Meat does taste so much better when it's suffered before death, too. You can taste the difference, it's like ambrosia.
Need?
>Shall not
That's all I need.
realistically in modern society it makes WAY more sense to own a handgun, especially one you are comfortable CCing. inb4 people start talking about riots and how an AR is required just because kyle had one.
If you could only own one, yeah I would agree because of conceal carrying. But an AR is a much better home defense gun than a handgun.
>higher capacity
>more accurate
>more effective (Indisputable. Rifles wound more differently and much more devastatingly than handguns, mostly as a function of higher velocity)
If you can't do what Kyle did with a 9mm pistol, you have no business owning fire arms anyways
I think people should be allowed to own it but ultimately I agree. There truly isnt much purpose for a civilian to own one other than "in case SHTF" or maybe as like a deterrance against oppression. Although the oppression seems to me to happen whether we own AR-15s or not. Just a pot brought to slow boil rather than all at once. /k/ spazzes on this opinion but generally most civilians would be adequately protected with a .38 spl for carry and a pump shotgun w/ mounted light for the house. That doesnt mean I dont think people should be allowed to carry other things or that I dont have other weapons. Realistically those two weapons are generally quite adequate, and have been for going on a hundred years.
>I'm a 2a supporter
>b-b-but you shouldn't be able to own a wEaPoN oF wAr
Literally the first sentence says I believe you should be allowed to own them. Just realistically, they dont serve much practical purpose. Learn to frickin read waterhead.
There have been several well publicized self defense shootings against multiple attackers where an AR saved the day.
And if they had had some other firearm it eould have worked out too.
> inb4 Rittenhouse
Kid went and got himself involved in a riot. I'm glad he was acquitted but he really shouldnt have been there to start with. And an M1 carbine or something would have served just as well. AR15s are fine, I own one. But I dont really think they're the pancea for all the worlds problems like /k/ seems too.
Well the AR-15 is cheaper to feed and buy than an M1 so I guess the AR-15 is better than an M1 innit?
Also
>it fun
>it cool
>I have the disposable income to afford it
Only reasons I own one. Same reason I own my 100 year old shotguns and my Vz-61. What more reason do I need? I guess I could use the Vz-61 as a vehicle crew weapon but going to Taco Bell rarely requires that outside of Chicago. I don't suppose I should be justifying why there's a civilian use for my plates which I own for the same reason.
I'm honestly surprised that people still come into these threads. OP is either A.) Actually that fricking dense as to think small arms aren't an important aspect of anything
Or, more likely
B.)Shit posting, either for fun or pay, possibly both. I kind of doubt he's getting paid but stranger things have happened.
i'm a really bad shot so i need a lot of ammo please understand
OP is a Black person and so is this thread
Freedom means I can buy whatever the frick I can afford, which includes horrifically unhealthy food, cars that can go five times the speed limit and guns that make homosexuals cry about necessity, which is the only reason I need to own one.
>Neeeeeed
have a nice day. I own an AR (among all my other guns) because I want to, for starters. It’s a flexible, versatile platform that can suit the roles of everything from hunting to home defence. And ESPECIALLY for shooting federal agents if they get too uppity.
My AR isn’t what I’d reach for first in that case, but it’s a fine gun for the job.
AR’s are the best HD firearm currently on the market, and are more than a capable of killing game. They’re also great for varmint.
But the 2A isn’t about hunting you dumb noguns Black person
Hey look, the shills found out how to click the links and go outside of /misc/.
>Explain your ownership of firearms that I think are scary!
No, I don't think I will. Come and take them if you must. I live in a free nation and am presumed innocent until proven guilty by a jury of my peers. I'm not sure why inanimate objects, my personal property, under my sole control need to be proven innocent to anyone.
I never said they are scary, I just said they are useless
then why the frick are you here? dont buy one then
I am here to look down on, and ridicule, owners of the AR platform. I am sorry if this "triggers" you, I had no idea you where such a "sensitive snow flake"
>i was pretending to be moronic
>Epstein's dead
>Abortion is illegal
>The courts protected our rights against force vaccination.
>The courts will continue to protect our 2nd and 1st amendment rights and dismantle the fed.
And basically theres nothing you can do about it but cry.
None of this has anything to do with me making fun of your puny little pea shooters
Agreed, .556 is a puny round for manlets and its not even on my list of purchases. 7.62X54R is the patricians choice of firearm calibers. Even the military admits that. If youre not running an AR10 in the AR platform its because youre 5ft 2inch poor and made poor decisions
>7.62X54R is the patricians choice of firearm calibers
I'm sorry, but 3 Line Russian was obsolete within the same decade it was adopted.
If you're going to tout 30 cal supremacy, don't use the moronic red headed stepchild of the 30 cal family to promote it.
>.556 tumbles
Anyone around in 2014 watched in euromaidan as those reporters and medics where murdered indiscrimately as 7.62x54R tore through everything, including multiple unarmed persons and popped them like confused grapes. .556 isnt even on my radar and 7.62x54r is the only caliber my gf does not want to shoot. I dont own anything that tiny except for my tiny boy. A call that b***h my visa cuz I dont leave home with out one. I call that b***h my body guard :yeah thats my body gaurd:
Talk about a 5 yr plan. These grandpappys have been doing this since 1776 and theyre highly efficient at it. MOST, grandpappies, since I was sure there was a time where a upstanding gentleman voluntarily abstained from his right to bare arms. Probably, because he thought society or his local community reached a state of fire arms no longer being needed. But pushing phalanx's into the constitution only serves to reinforce this behavior of assault rifle purchase. BLM sold more guns than any other platform. After that, its over now. Prepping for some mass event is now socially acceptable and that involves high powered rifles and knee deep ammo in the general populous. Ya dun goofed and will have to come back in 100 yrs to attempt to subvert the populous to get back to square one of where you where b4. Basically we won so hard I should tea bag you.
>Useless
Why do you care about what I own? Live your own life.
I'm only questioning your reasons. They are pretty useless as weapons, from any stand point. Sorry if this "offends" you. I'll include a "trigger-warning" next time, jeez
>Questioning your reasons
I like to shoot more than I like to reload. I'm not sure what the drama is?
I don't care how many IRS agents you send I will not pay taxes
>The real life, realistic reasons for owning such a rifle
I love when people come in and argue that a rifle designed before color television is too sophisticated, too advanced, too lethal.
There are tens of millions of them in distribution already. Posit any argument you like on why they only belong in LE/.GOV hands. Your logic withers to dust in the face of the simple reality that they are too widespread and too numerous to ever seize them all. The numbers involved are too large to even bother wasting time on an argument.
keeping the 'yote menace in check
You can argue whatever you want. You could spend hours proving to me that black is white and up is down and it wouldn't make any difference; I'm not giving up my guns.
Ban all British IP's
>he doesn’t know about Black folk
Smh tbh senpai
The taliban and vietcong didn’t have organic air support or armor either… Can’t really say we won against them either.
The big igloo would be a war of attrition, the point isn’t to win, it’s to not lose.
>The realistic use of a semi-auto 5.56/.223 rifle with a detachable box magazine
Killing a child molester at a Marxist-anarchist riot who is violating the terms of his parole.
True
In any real scenario which you need to take up arms against tyranny you would’ve wished you had a Barrett 50 cal
And what's the realistic reason why a homosexual like yourself is allowed to be kept alive, OP?
Rittenhouse. At first I thought he was just a moron but after thinking about it for a while, I realized that we have a right to be in pretty much any public space we want to be, whether or not there is a riot, and carrying a long gun to defend yourself in such a circumstance is entirely justified. Not that it required justification, because again, that is a right that we possess.
Why does anybody need any reason for owning something other than because they want it?
I have hogs around, but im more likely to encounter 3+ nogs attempting to invade my home, which is my primary reason.
You seem to be under the impression a ballistic weapon can be morally justified because of a societal context rather than the circumstances of its use as weapon.
Why are we not talking about ukraine instead of larp fantasies?
Because a number of us just got off of work and had to deal with sanctimonious c**t of some-sort where instead of taking out on our loved ones we're insulting OP here. By calling him a pussy homosexual, coward, c**t, idiot, loser and so on.
I use mine to make homosexuals and politicians seethe every day.
I use your predictable consoomerism to make insider trading deals on the stock market. The rich gets richer, and you are paying my bills
>insider trading
Weewoo weeoo jail time
I also love how this thread has been up for 4 hours too.... real subtle.
It doesn't matter if it is 0, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
All semi automatic firearms should be banned, magazine capacity limited to 5, and an extensive battery of testing conducted to qualify for a firearm purchase. I say this as a lifelong hunter who’s tired of mass murderers hiding behind the 2nd amendment
elementary school level bait
>How many times would a law-abiding citizen, living a normal, non criminal life, be expected to run into a platoon's worth of well trained wild hog operatives?
Odds are greater than zero, which is more than should be needed to justify me getting it.
> OP posts bait pic just to get people.sharpening their rheroric on an AWB
> Thread slides into whatever the frick kind of thread this is now
Guys, it's Friday fricking night. Can we just have a normal one for once.
the field behind my house is about 750 yards deep before the treeline. an ar with a 1:7 shooting 77 grain is perfect for this distance when you're shooting coyotes. thank you for your question.
Home invasions.
A pregnant disabled veteran with 1 leg should never be expected to flee her home, hide for the police to EVENETUALLY show up, or be out gunned and out manned.
>Hogs
>Home intruders
>Fast game
>It's cool
what country are you from
to fight back against a tyrannical government or foreign invaders
shooting is more fun than reloading
>Hobbyist shooting
>Competition shooting
>Hunting
>Home defense and defense against tyranny
KYS
>'mo dakka
>'mo betta
get fricked.
I was stuck in Philly for +30 days during the 2020 ape out. I was attempting to head back west from New Jersey. I drive a car with alt right stickers. The freeway was blocked at night, and during the day it was jammed from everybody else trying to head west as well. If I was stupid, ballsy, or just plain casual trying to head thru a crowd of Black folk and cucks like we saw in 2020 blocking the freeways... it was guaranteed my life would have been in danger. That's why I waited it out, and carried.
That's just one example for ya. Life ain't like the movies and you WILL MISS SHOTS
I like threads like this because it tells civilians to get armed with mortars, tanks and machine guns.
It happens.
>the real life realistic use of a car with 300 hp and a manual transmission must be few and far between, right?
>the real life realistic use of a computer with 16gb of RAM and a 4 GHz processor must be few and far between, right?
>the real life realistic use of a side by side Polaris must be few and far between, right?
I want it, and you can't do jack to stop me.
anon, The u.s is about to collapse have fun kindly asking for food and then getting that clit you call a penis blown off soon after.
Purpose of being armed is so you never have a need to be armed.
t. balkangay
> This entire thread
Every single one of you is a moron who fell for obvious bait. All of you.