The Polish military has bought the american IBCS system for 2,5 Billion dollars. Deliveries between 2024 - 2031 m.

The Polish military has bought the american IBCS system for 2,5 Billion dollars. Deliveries between 2024 - 2031 m.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Integrated Air and Missile Defense [IAMD] Battle Command System (IBCS)
    >IBCS aims to create an integrated network of air defense sensors, such as AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel and AN/TPS-80 G/ATOR, AN/MPQ-53, AN/MPQ-65A and GhostEye (LTAMDS) in Patriot missile system, GhostEye MR in NASAMS, AN/TPY-2 in Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) and Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD), AN/SPY-1 and AN/SPY-6 in Aegis BMD, and AN/APG-81 in Lockeed Martin F-35 Lightning II, allowing them to interoperate with IBCS engagement control stations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so usa decided to stop being stupid and understood that bacn is a high risk system and decided to fix this?

      neat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        actually, they're going even further in that regard

        Joint All-Domain Command and Control
        > Joint All-Domain Command and Control or JADC2 is the concept that the Department of Defense has developed to connect sensors from all branches of the armed forces into a § unified network powered by artificial intelligence. These branches include the Air Force, Army, Marine Corps, and Navy, as well as Space Force.
        > In 2017, a joint network (Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure —JEDI) was proposed for DoD, with a single award meant for a single vendor for $10 billion. Competitive bidding was held, and an award was made but was protested by a competitor. In 2021, the award was cancelled; in its place, multiple vendors for an interoperable, compatible network capability with multiple awards were envisioned, by 2022. This capability (Joint Warfighting Cloud Capability —JWCC) is to be for $9 billion spread among vendors and is meant to be awarded by mid-December 2022. Pentagon network officials began to envision JWCC as a necessary layer for JADC2. In early December 2022 JWCC was awarded to Google, Amazon, Microsoft, and Oracle.
        > Combining the JWICS with JWCC, economies of scale allowed a cooperative project of DISA's JWICS with DoD's JWCC. A Top Secret capability is being sought

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being polak assembling stoves in german factory and having to pay burgers for that shit out of your shitty wage. Crazy times.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      S-300 not having a great time, huh?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What happened to s-300?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the war revealed it's dogshit compared to Patriot's performance and nobody wants to buy it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A polack working in a german factory pays taxes in germany. Most countries aren't insane like the US and don't force expat citizens to pay income tax in addition to the taxes in their country of residence.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A polack working in a german factory pays taxes in germany.
        He doesn't know...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >german factory
        Same logic as with polish death camps.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Most countries aren't insane like the US and don't force expat citizens to pay income tax in addition to the taxes in their country of residence.

        He doesn't know...

        T. Polak

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I’m a dual US citizen living abroad.
        You have to file, but your taxable income can be excluded under foreign income exclusion and foreign income tax credits dependent on how long you’ve been out of country and whether you’re doing local work or working for a US company abroad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      (you)

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stupid polacks I can program for 100 bucks in an evening what they pay 2B for. But it's good when Krautistan pays for free welfare and infinite wealth for Americans.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is there so much butthurt over this in this thread?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      russians don't like bordering countries

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is buying superior Russian S400
      Even turkey is having buying remorse.
      So anyone buying any other AA system = Russians shills dilate

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    give it 10 years and we will have the sexiest air defence in eu. meanwhile the land forces will be still rolling around in bmp-1s

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Borsuk status?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Infinite testing.
        My bet is that soon (in 1-2 years) it will be announced that development took too long. Framework agreement gets cancelled, and Bradleys or some other off the shelf foreign ifv gets bought.
        >Inb4 Bradley doesn't swim
        Swimmability requirement, or any other requirement or testing are only for domestic production. Anything foreign can be bought off the shelf without testing.
        Welcome to Polish military equipment procurement process.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          surely its not as bad as the Ajax

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's not bad, allegedly there was some overheating issue but it got fixed already.
            It's not a problem with Borsuk, it's a problem with lengthy bureaucratic process, which is absolutely not fit for current geopolitical situation. Polish military has fire under their ass with fricking bmp-1 being the main ifv, and some units being fricking truck based like it's WW2. We needed new ifvs years ago. Right now every month without ifvs being mass produced is a month we can't afford.
            Even if it was bad it would still be better than antique bmp-1.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Anything foreign can be bought off the shelf without testing.
          >Welcome to Polish military equipment procurement process.
          Stop getting your info from onet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah man, they'll be rolling around in Ukrainian cv90s.

      It's alllllll good. Boля Пepyнa

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seems like a fine situation since russians seem to be unable to produce tanks, only missiles
      t. finn

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Paid with EU gibs, fricking parasites

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >EU country using EU money to purchase defense systems from EU member to defend EU borders
      it's heinous

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like an US system though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The Republic of Poland is developing a three-tier air defence system containing a long-range WISLA, short-range NAREW and very short-range Pilica+ air defence system.

          The software and hardware that integrates all of their systems into a single missile defense network is American. The actual missiles, missile launchers, and radars are a mix of American and European.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Poles are not european, they're slavic vermin squatting on german land. They're nothing but a giant leech stuck on the back of the european community. Without the EU Poland would still be an AIDS ridden gypsyhole just like the rest of the warsaw pact.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          jeet, do you know how demographics of germany look like

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then why is your country of based and trad white men still lagging behind? Why don't you contribute for anything in the union? Why are you still a second world buffer state with a fresh coat of paint? Germany is the biggest economy in the continent, the only thing you're famous for are cheap booze and toilet cleaners

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Last I checked Poland has had 35 years of uninterrupted growth

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >how...look like
            for the love of god, stop this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dont see a problem

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i feed with your hate. mmmmmm

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Calm down Ivan.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    useless without rockets

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread about polish MIC/army
    >trolls instantly derail thread to be about Germany
    yaaaawn

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's really sad because otherwise it could be an interesting thread if not russBlack person pajeets derailing it on a regular basis

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Poland seriously should get a huge slap for spending all the money on non-EU weapons while leeching EU money 24/7

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      See

      >The Republic of Poland is developing a three-tier air defence system containing a long-range WISLA, short-range NAREW and very short-range Pilica+ air defence system.

      The software and hardware that integrates all of their systems into a single missile defense network is American. The actual missiles, missile launchers, and radars are a mix of American and European.

      It's not wholly non-european

      Also like 30% of EU weapons are from the US regardless.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Saar do not redeem, I repeat saar d

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well maybe the EU should develop more weapons that can be produced in a reasonable time then?

      • 1 month ago
        T-I-G-E-R-S

        Coincidentally, the pan-European Skyshield is
        >Buy israeli
        >Buy German
        >Buy American
        with blurred timeline, Frenchies and Italians throwing a hissing fit and keys to the system in fricking Berlin.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Sky_Shield_Initiative

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Poland's own air defense initiative has the same or similar capabilities except for exoatmospheric interceptors.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Poland's own air defense initiative has the same or similar capabilities

            are they amphibious?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick aren't they buying domestic made systems from RADWAR?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are. See

      >The Republic of Poland is developing a three-tier air defence system containing a long-range WISLA, short-range NAREW and very short-range Pilica+ air defence system.

      The software and hardware that integrates all of their systems into a single missile defense network is American. The actual missiles, missile launchers, and radars are a mix of American and European.

      > Companies from the PGZ-Wisła consortium - WZE SA, OBR CTM SA, PIT-RADWAR SA, WZU SA, Wojskowe Zakłady Głosności No. 1, HSW SA and ZM "Tarnów" SA and Raytheon

      > The PGZ-Narew consortium, headed by the Polish state Defense Industry association Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa (PGZ), includes enterprises ZM Tarnów, PIT-Radwar, PCO, Jelcz, Mesko, WZU and WZE

      > The contractor for Pilica is the PGZ-PILICA consortium, which consists of the following Polish Armaments Group (PGZ) companies: PIT-Radwar, PCO and Zakłady Mechaniczne Tarnów.

      Literally all 3 components of the layered air defense is going through a consortium that includes Radwar.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    solid buy. let me guess they are making multi layer air defence ?

    • 1 month ago
      T-I-G-E-R-S

      Ayup

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this guy so obsessed with Poland of all places?
    It's just weird. Unnatural.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is part of the eurasian butthurt belt.
      All they can do is seethe how Poland has is so much better than them.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >2031
    That's a bit late. :S

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      2031 is when it'll be complete.

      Initial operating capability is expected in like 2025/6.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like a lot of capability for just 2.5b. I wonder what the scam is. Is it just a few sensors and the integration, ie, interceptors sold separately?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, the original patriot deal is a totally different deal for like $4.7b

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