The Polish hate towards Germany grows with each passing day. Germanbros Scholz is right, no Leo for these anti democrats

The Polish hate towards Germany grows with each passing day.
Germanbros Scholz is right, no Leo for these anti democrats

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Germanbros
    t. Waldemar Andropov, Saxony Oblast

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with Germany is that it's so autistic it only has two modes and can't find a proper balance in between
    0: FriedeFreudeUndFreundschaftPacifismuz
    1: Tot𝖆l𝖊rW𝖊ltKri𝖊gAusr𝖆di𝖊rung

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Surprisingly accurate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From a Polish soldier's memoirs, talking about the aftermath of the 1683 battle of Vienna:

      >The Germans, on the other hand, took no captives, but killed them crudelissime [with exceeding cruelty]. Even after death, they dragged their corpses about; flayed them, twisted the flayed strips into straps they might use; the third day after the battle, it was already hard to see a Turk on the battlefield with his body entire; and if any of our men was not cautious in leading a captive, and he rode among Germans, they would seize the prisoner out of his grasp and kill him.

      >My nephew Stanisław Pasek was leading a Turk, some kind of important fellow, for he was handsomely attired and riding a beautiful horse; my nephew, having disarmed the captive, was leading him along on his horse, holding only the reins, when along comes a German, rides alongside the Turk, and stabs him with a dagger. The Turk only groaned; my nephew looked back, and the Turk, mouth agape, is slipping off his horse. Having stabbed him, the German rode off at once to the side. My nephew begins to scold him: "You pig, you knave! Killed my prisoner you have, and is that permitted?" The German but laughs and says: "Ja, Pan, are you Poles feeding the devil?" My nephew rails at him that you're a scoundrel, not a cavalier - to kill a captive already in our hands. But the German only rides on, laughing.

      >What else was there to do? The Germans feel great rancor as the Turks robbed them of so much of their country, their provinces and fortresses; secondly, they are a natura crudeles [innately cruel] and know not how to observe knightly restraint in victoria.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The guy's Latin is garbage but I didn't expect the poles to be cucks about killing muslims.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The way 17th century Polish writings tend to present it, they viewed the Turks as highly respectable people who are corrupt and decadent because of Islam, and the Germans as vile people only worth allying with because they're fellow Christians.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Poles really have a history of blindness and unnecessary aggression towards potential allies. It's jozef back all over again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1683
        >Germans
        What germans

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is a class divide he's talking about really. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth never had any form of draft or compulsory military service for commoners. Until it's very collapse, war was an affair for nobility. Even at the lowest level what you had was a penniless petty noble, whose reason for being there was to show off so that richer nobles would notice and hire them, or capturing some rich captives that they could ransom. By contrast, at the lowest level among the Germans you had some pissed off conscript or mercenary grunt who wouldn't care for that shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean the 30 years war was not that long ago, so I get that Germans had a different idea of conduct in war after all armies of Europe raped and slaughtered through their lands.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They just need to be "Peace, Joy and Friendship" with everyone who isn't Russia and "Motherfucking Exterminatus" on anyone who IS Russian.
      Simple as.

      Show them pic related and say "Das. DAS, Fritz! Dies jeden tag den ganzen tag!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The problem with Germany is that it's so autistic it only has two modes and can't find a proper balance in between
      >0: FriedeFreudeUndFreundschaftPacifismuz
      >1: Tot𝖆l𝖊rW𝖊ltKri𝖊gAusr𝖆di𝖊rung
      dont worry, the US castrated them so hard after WWII, the only thing Germany will have from here on out is memories and memes.

      Germany was de-industrialized and de-militarized for perpetuity.
      Western nations all have the same distinct issue.
      >"even if you DID return to industrial scale military production, no one in your country, FUCKING NO ONE, would ever join your gay liberal fascist military to u actually use it"
      you would have to have literal actual brain damage to voluntarily join the US or a europoid military

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >de-industrialized
        >fourth largest economy in the world
        Meds

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polish occupation of Germany when

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >actually caring about what PiS-tards think

      LMAO

      Try to actually become a real country instead of Germany's cheap labour camp first, Wojtek.

      >I find it funny how the once Europe ruling Germans now have to put up with every subhuman people and feed them, pay reparations, supply them with weapons and basically pay for the entire European Union.
      You're right, the west should never have rebuilt and invested in West Germany and have been left as a desolate destroyed shithole after WWII, that's what they deserved. Would make fighting the Soviets in an invasion easier too.

      >the west

      Germans rebuilt Germany. "Muh Marshall Plan" was a shitty meme.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Try to actually become a real country instead of Germany's cheap labour camp first, Wojtek.
        I'm not from Europe and it's Germany's stupidity that will require my country among many to go to fight a war in Europe (again) and bail you out because of Germany being retarded (again). Learn when to speak

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Last I checked Russia invaded Ukraine, not Germany. Also, send 1500 Abrams, 2/3s of those should be in depots in Germany anyway.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia invaded Ukraine, not Germany
            You are naive to think Russia's plan ends at Ukraine, or the Baltics, or Poland, or Finland, or Germany - regardless of how obscene it is in likelihood. You also argue in bad faith openly and I have no interest in engaging it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              are you admitting NATO is useless and the Russian army is actually dangerous? lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Finland and Poland bulking up their military indicates "NATO is useless" by your standards, then nothing I can say will ever convince you otherwise. I could make an analogy about morons in your neighbourhood, but you wouldn't do shit anyway.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if you're persuaded that Russia is going to conquer half of Europe, then that means you're not even confident in article 5 protecting those countries, lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're persuaded that Russia is going to conquer half of Europe
                We're talking about what Finland and Poland are doing by bulking up their military, not my opinion on Russia's capabilities but good attempt at changing the subject. This is what I meant by saying I have no interest in engaging your disingenuous means of discussion.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And american security commitments are there to counter exactly that. Do you know how much american equipment is prepositioned in Europe? Do you know how much maintenance infrastructure there is just in Germany?
              The rationale for not sending US tanks from german depots to Ukraine has little to do with any of the officially stated reasons. All the US tanks in Europe are there to specifically counter Russia. The reason they are not put to use has nothing to do with infrastructure or fuel consumption but rather political objectives.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Let’s send top of the line, forward positioned M1A2s that are forward positioned specifically for the event of a NATO war with Russia so the US can sufficiently build an army in Europe within a month or two.

                >Let’s not send the aging, unupgraded Leo 2s that are slotted for replacement anyways

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As the tanks are going up directly against the russian army, why would you want to send anything other than the top of the line equipment?
                You know, the crappy Leos are so old and shit, you wouldn’t want to send them to war if you have something better available, right?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              wait i thought Russia's military is incompetent now i'm being told they're coming for all of Europe, which is it? the propaganda is so retarded with cognitive dissonance.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are incompetent. But if they weren't or if Ukraine was even less competent, then that argument would apply. Are hypotheticals above the processing power of the svale-like vatnig mind?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not from Europe
          Sure you aren't, Wojtek.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Germans rebuilt Germany. "Muh Marshall Plan" was a shitty meme.
        post hands and high school diploma

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not showing you my nail polish chud

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny how the once Europe ruling Germans now have to put up with every subhuman people and feed them, pay reparations, supply them with weapons and basically pay for the entire European Union.

    Its a racket to break the back of the German working class, that enabled Hitler. The garden gnomes never forgot and they want to make sure that under no circumstances an Aryan ever rises again. If this should happen and if there still enough left, they would simply crush Poland and exterminate the Vermin for good. The uppity of the morons of Europe comes because Germany is weak and bled dry. Like vultures they circle around the dying corpse. Your time will come Poland. God willing we will see the Russians at your border from the East and a rejuvenated Germany to the West, ready and willing to crush you under their boot.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I find it funny how the once Europe ruling Germans now have to put up with every subhuman people and feed them, pay reparations, supply them with weapons and basically pay for the entire European Union.
      You're right, the west should never have rebuilt and invested in West Germany and have been left as a desolate destroyed shithole after WWII, that's what they deserved. Would make fighting the Soviets in an invasion easier too.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You realize the EU is structured in a way that benefits the Germans and French over anyone else in it right? How are small former eastern block countries supposed to compete with them? Not only that but hundreds of thousands migrate there too causing a huge brain drain. EU is beneficial to Germany the MOST

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        of course we benefit from all those jobs being outsourced to Eastern Europe

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are dumb as fuck. The normal German citizen doesnt benefit from the EU at all. Its the elites that can outsource and get access millions of new consumer by importing them into Germany and have the Germans give them money they subsequently buy products with. The entire EU is a money laundering operation to make the elites richer. The average citizen gains nothing from not having to show his passport at the border.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You realize the EU is structured in a way that benefits the Germans and French over anyone else in it right? How are small former eastern block countries supposed to compete with them? Not only that but hundreds of thousands migrate there too causing a huge brain drain. EU is beneficial to Germany the MOST

          You are both correct.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you fuckers join then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can always leave the EU

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >german
      >working class
      I work for a large international company and you people are so lazy we had to shut the Germany office down. Only had this problem in Germany too: our UK, Belgium and Italian offices (yes, even fucking Italy) were able to show up to the office on time and generate a profit.

      The idea that there's so kind of German work ethic or efficiency is a blatant scam.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mhm, what is considered German today wouldnt have been considered African tier moron 20 years ago.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like another case of exploitative multinational running headfirst into German workers protections.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >11 am local time
          >it's exploitative for me to be at the office doing the work that i am being paid to do
          That was literally the problem. You only 5 hours of work out of them, per day, if you were lucky. It was so bad customers were complaining constantly about not being able to reach anyone.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You only 5 hours of work out of them, per day, if you were lucky
            And that's a good thing. With my union contract I have to work 35 hours a week, get 32 days of paid vacation a year, pretty much unlimited sick days, Christmas pay, 1 guaranteed home office day a week, and get paid enough to live comfortably. Why the fuck would any German want to change that just so some American corpo can buy himself a fourth SUV

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why the fuck would any German want to change that just so some American corpo can buy himself a fourth SUV
              >company loses money
              >customers refuse to do business with company because of non-existent work ethic of company's employees
              >company fires all the employees and hires more being in the UK instead
              No that's fine, just keep doing what you're doing based retard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              don’t forget the extra one week vacation for “educational” purpose
              Being an introvert in Germany is like heaven

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They pay very little for what they get in return, its basically a cheat code for international trade. One that the US (Trump was occasionally right) and China have indeed noticed. If there was still a DM, as German trade rises, the DM would strengthen creating in turn more consumption of US and Chinese goods. Germany effectively imports currency weakness from Greece et al and makes them pay for the privilege. The odd thing is that this makes individual Germans less prosperous but their psychoses make them feel this is worth it in the long term. Again, its like having the benefit of a planned economy while robbing everyone as capitalists. They may even be right.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s just a different model of currency manipulation. The US is exporting its inflation by making the dollar desirable to hold. And the Chinese are straight up dumping their currency by fixing rates.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this point the West should just man up and put fifth columnists like you in camps. State-sanctioned violence is the perfect answer to this kind of schizo drivel.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Back to 4chan with you larping gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's right though, germany is just a colony

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      germany, france, etc will have their hands full with the jihad they invited... probably starting in 20 years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Funny then how the German pays almost nothing while he collects all. They make poor countries pay for the rich southern countries and flood everyone with immigrants

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the most powerful economy in yurop
      >being bullied

      im lafn, i swear, the thought you muppets were ever considered good at physiological operations is fucking hilarious. only the biggest morons believe you. of course, there are alot of those. damned easy western living standards keeping these tards breathing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *psychological

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany just sent another Patriot system and is working on getting Marders to Ukraine. What has Poland done lately?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trained and sent another brigade (30-40 tanks + 80-100 ifvs).

      >Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defense Mariusz Błaszczak, after the meeting of the contact group for supporting Ukraine in Ramstein, Germany, said that "Poland is able to train the Ukrainian brigade and equip it with T-72 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles."

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland is free to train ukies and send their leos, krauts allowed other nations to do so.

    >Poles still complaining and not acting upon their own words.

    As expected.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be honest, at this point we should do everything what makes the Poles seethe harder. I hate them and their arrogance so fucking much.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing has changed

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poles just want to see germans dead and gone like nazis wanted poles dead and gone. They will claim it's all about ukraine, or fair treatment, or something of the sort, but see them speak anonymously and they basically just want germany nuked. It is common on this very board.
    I am increasingly thinking that germany needs our own nukes ASAP, not against russia or cucks like that, but against poland.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      coглaceн
      пoляки нeнaвидят нac нeмцeв!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      - Please give some tanks to Ukraine, like we and every other Ukrainian ally does.
      - REEEEE, ze perfidious Polack strikes again! It's ze stab in ze back! Germany has no tanks! German tanks aren't ready for battle! German tanks will provoke Putin! *slurps russian oil* Poles are the real enemy, we need nukes to defend against them! *kisses Putin's portrait* They want to genocide us! We must deal with the polish menace!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmao Poles only gave away their surplus Soviet shitcans in exchange for free gibs in the form of superior Western gear. So did most other ex soviet sattelites. Let's not pretend any of that happened out of the goodness of the generous polish heart

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Germany does not send tanks, we must cease buying their tanks and stop military cooperation
        Cool and justified.
        >Germany does not send tanks, they should be genocided for WW2 after all
        Not justified.
        Guess which I read daily on this very board.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Poles just want to see germans dead and gone like nazis wanted poles dead and gone.
      Nothing wrong with good traditional tribalism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Poles just want to see germans dead and gone like nazis wanted poles dead and gone.
      Question is....who do the Poles harbor more of a hateboner for: The Germans or The Russians?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scholz is not representative of the German people as a whole. He's a cowardly slug who has to be replaced asap.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s insane is that from an outside prospective this is so blindly Germany’s fault. Why are you the largest economy in Europe yet you are the least prepared to meet your defense obligations?

    You’re essentially hard subsidized by every other NATO state, particularly the US and other +2%ers. It’s an embarrassment, the handling of your military has been and is still an embarrassment. Stop putting slimy leftist politicians, women even, in charge of your military. Your civilian administration is extremely incompetent and cowardly.
    Polish sauerkraut is also better.

    >inb4 “we aren’t actually blocking Leo2s.”

    T. Burger

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why are you the largest economy in Europe yet you are the least prepared to meet your defense obligations?
      because Merkel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who elected Merkel? Who allowed her to stay politically comfortable for a decade?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wish I was meming, but it was litterally the actual boomers that voted for her.
          Like actual people that were born in the 50s and 60s, never use the internet, and ask everyone younger then them why they're so poor.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The CDU boomers. The defunding of the Bundeswehr also happened under two CDU ministers of defense. So ironically, not the lefties.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Boomers

          https://i.imgur.com/xqC9T04.jpg

          The Polish hate towards Germany grows with each passing day.
          Germanbros Scholz is right, no Leo for these anti democrats

          They're a laughing stock in the eyes of the rest of the world, and it's unironically boomers fault. Germany is the second oldest country in the world--as in, the most old people. All its political bullshit, from being dependent on Russia for oil, getting rid of its nuclear shit, letting it's military become a disgrace, doing nothing in Ukraine--all this is because old people are retarded and elect retarded politicians.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why are you not sending tanks then?

      - Please give some tanks to Ukraine, like we and every other Ukrainian ally does.
      - REEEEE, ze perfidious Polack strikes again! It's ze stab in ze back! Germany has no tanks! German tanks aren't ready for battle! German tanks will provoke Putin! *slurps russian oil* Poles are the real enemy, we need nukes to defend against them! *kisses Putin's portrait* They want to genocide us! We must deal with the polish menace!

      pooplaks can send their own Leos if they want to, they turn this into another breakdown over Germany because pooplaks can't get over getting buck broken by Hitler 80 years later

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It makes absolutely no sense to send a gas turbine engined tank to Ukraine when there are hundreds of conventional MTU engined tanks already across the Atlantic sitting a few hundred miles from Lviv.
        The Abrams was never designed for use in an army like the Ukrainians.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you mean the same ukrainian army that has T-80s
          retard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They converted all of their turbine T80’s to conventional diesels specifically because they couldn’t maintain the turbines.

            I do agree that the Abrams never should have been implemented with such a niche engine, but that decision was made almost 50 years ago. The US should have a “low” tank like the T72 for export that uses easy to maintain parts. The MPF might be a good contender.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because the turbines are being built in Russia and they prefer supplying their own fleet.
              Ukrainians wouldn’t do maintenance on the turbines anyway. Just like frontline Americans don’t. You put a new powerpack into the tank and send the defunct one to higher level maintenance. Same thing with the Leo, it’s just a different kind of engine. You remove the entire block and send it to a depot. You just need trucks and a sufficient reserve of engines.

              t. knower

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It makes absolutely no sense to send a gas turbine engined tank to Ukraine when there are hundreds of conventional MTU engined tanks already across the Atlantic sitting a few hundred miles from Lviv.
          Now this is coping, continue.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pooplaks can send their own Leos if they want to
        except they need an agreement with Germany before they do so, as per the contract with which they got the Leos

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And the german government at not time refused export of the tanks to Ukraine. Because the Poles never asked.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe they should request that agreement formally then so they can get a yes instead of complaining about the lack of an answer to a question poland has been extremely careful not to ask.
          >inb4 they just don't ask because they don't want to embarrass Germany by forcing then to say no
          It's Poland. PiS. They would love that for their re-election campaign.
          They don't ask because they don't want a yes either.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>inb4 “we aren’t actually blocking Leo2s.”
      yes, we aren't. shut the fuck up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Y’all blocked the transfer of 40 Spanish Leopard 2s in June. Why do you lie?

        >Germany does not send tanks, we must cease buying their tanks and stop military cooperation
        Cool and justified.
        >Germany does not send tanks, they should be genocided for WW2 after all
        Not justified.
        Guess which I read daily on this very board.

        Are Germans incapable of reading banter? Why are you all autistic?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Trusting the deliberate mistranslation by visegrad
          lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I just called for your genocide as a banter bro, don't take it so serious

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What a gay lmao
            How the powerful have fallen

            >Trusting the deliberate mistranslation by visegrad
            lmao

            I do not care, there is a reason no Leo’s have been sent. The fact that this debate is even public means that lines of communication have completely broken down between the actual negotiations to send tanks, and the most logical reason for that is German politicians and military officials realizing they are in no position to send any hardware, and are woefully unprepared for a conflict with Russia.

            How’s that rearmament going?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I do not care about facts
              Here are the facts
              >From Spain, however, the Germans now received, after the reports of the weekend, rather reserved signals. Through its military contacts, the defense ministry learned that no decision had yet been made in Madrid on the tank delivery. Instead, Spanish colleagues groaned that the publication of the vague plans in "El País" came at an inopportune time. So far, the process has not even been coordinated within the government.
              There was never a formal request by the Spanish government

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >actually gets mad at the stupid threats people make on this site

            how? are you an animal?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Y’all blocked the transfer of 40 Spanish Leopard 2s in June.
          no we didn't you lying fat piece of shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hard subsidized by every other NATO state

      Wonder how this would look if you factor in all the millions of people that are now in germany because the US did fuck around in the middle east. Strangely there was also poland blocking every effort to distribute these people. Ofcourse you can buy more tanks if your own people live in polish shitholes and you don't have to feed a thousand arabs in each city.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >that are now in germany because the US did fuck around in the middle east
        Lmao. They are there because your beloved mutti invited them. Refugees stop at the next country over, but the EU collectively decided to forget this to benefit from cheap labor. Thanks Merkel.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are not many other 2%ers. If Germany unilaterally raised its military budget to 100bln€ annually before 2014, I feel like they'd get shit on by other Europeans for other reasons. Even after that, I doubt it would have been good for European balance of power. That said, the absolute state of Germany is pathetic. Russia shit all over the sweet deals the Germans broke their back to build in Europe. This backstab should be punished with absolute resolution so other countries know not to fuck with Germany. Instead Germany is acting all timid and reserved, even though there is some easy geopolitical capital to win by sending some metal you'll never use yourself anyways.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2% GDP is the minimum NATO defense spending to justify that you're a NATO participant with a credible defense and not a fucking gay freeloader. Germany has been a gay freeloader for thirty years and had not met 2% GDP defense spending (Treaty Obligation!) until 2022. The only reason Germany wasn't kicked out of NATO is because NATO wants to obligate them in defense of Poland rather than give a free out.

        France withdrew from NATO and has effectively been acting as a NATO partner on their own terms and with above 2% defense spending.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only reason Germany wasn't kicked out of NATO
          is because NATO is only about muh defense on a surface level

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If Russia didn't invade Ukraine they probably could have had NATO disbanded within 8 years. NATO now has a very real purpose.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The problem with that is, Putin probably wouldnt be alive in 8 years. Even if he isn't sick like rumored, the dude would be close to 80.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >France withdrew from NATO
          Yes but they rejoined.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          majority of nato members spend less than 2%. If you look at the absolute sums its clear that germany didnt spend 2% to not have a higher defense budget than UK or France. Im not defending it but this whole germany bashing is getting retarded and seems like propaganda to seed mistrust. Same with the ukraine help. Germany is actually one of the nations giving the most but strangely the nation getting by far the most shit on. No one seems to give a fuck that spain, italy and france do much less.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the US is obviously worried about italy because they went to a lot of trouble to get a puppet into power there and have stepped up the afro-migrant boat landings big time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm >

            There are not many other 2%ers. If Germany unilaterally raised its military budget to 100bln€ annually before 2014, I feel like they'd get shit on by other Europeans for other reasons. Even after that, I doubt it would have been good for European balance of power. That said, the absolute state of Germany is pathetic. Russia shit all over the sweet deals the Germans broke their back to build in Europe. This backstab should be punished with absolute resolution so other countries know not to fuck with Germany. Instead Germany is acting all timid and reserved, even though there is some easy geopolitical capital to win by sending some metal you'll never use yourself anyways.


            Just so you know I generally agree with you. What people are mad about at Germany is not that they don't do enough in absolute terms to materially help Ukraine (although the commonly quoted lists and numbers are quite cherry picked imo), it's that Germany shows no initiative or real interest in keeping their backyard Russia-free and their eastern EU and NATO partners at peace.
            Germany has the capacity to make a huge impact and give Ukraine a real advantage, while signalling clearly where their priorities lie. It doesn't help that historically, Germany fucked both Ukraine and poorer/smaller European countries over with their fixation of appeasing Russia. The cards are now on the table and it feels lile Germany has no strategy on its own beyond matching aid to such an extent, that they have plausible deniability that they are not responsible for anything that happens.
            This is quite the weak stance for a country whose national ethos is based around the lessons learned from WWII and trying to right their historic wrongs. Here is a chance to stop a crazed dollar store Hitler and save a democratic European country from genocide and Germans keep pointing towards the fact that they sent boatloads of material that is definitely useful and good to have for Ukraine, but nothing that will accelerate Ukraine's victory and prove Germany's commitment or signal to Russia that this will only keep getting worse for them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Part of the reason why the Poles and Balts are so mad is because they wish they had Germany's capacity, because they know that if that were the case, they'd use this chance to unify and strengthen Europe for their own benefit (and against Russia).
              Part of the reason why the Americans are so mad at Germany is because ultimately, this is a European affair, yet America is leading the effort, which plays into Russia's narrative that this is a proxy-war instigatef by the U.S. Europe, lead by Germany and France and supported by the U.K. should have had their own capacity to stand up to Russia by their own unified efforts to keep their own backyard in order. Same reason why Obama was mad at France and the Beits for their pathetic display during Lybia. The U.S. wants to focus on China after they realized the ME is not the play, but for that they'd need Europe to get their shit in order.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Part of the reason why the Poles and Balts are so mad is because they wish they had Germany's capacity, because they know that if that were the case, they'd use this chance to unify and strengthen Europe for their own benefit (and against Russia).
                Nobody would want to follow either.
                It's not a European affair, America has more to win and lose than all of western Europe.
                Stop trying to make others pay for your interests worldwide and don't pretend Libya wasn't a huge mistake caused by Obama.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Libya was caused by Obama

                underage b& confirmed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The entire Arab spring had no chance without US support.
                So yes, it was Obama.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is this what they teach kids these days?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon I'm almost 30.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you didn't know that the French did Libya?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know they helped and never denied that but it doesn't change that without the US the arab spring wouldn't have happened, ISIS wouldn't have been an issue and there wouldn't have been a huge nigfugee wave.
                Obama's meddling was a necessary condition for all of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Assad was rolling tanks against his subjects before the U.S. started meddling. The arab spring would have happened either way. There were million-strong protests in several cities in the ME at the same time. Whether the civil war would have evolved differently if the U.S. was fully absent is impossible to say, but the mass protests and civil wars would have happened either way.
                Not everything is a glowie spec op. It's hard to believe for bootlickers, jut sometimes people get fed up and want to murk the cunt that is responsible for how shitty their country is run.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nonsense and Assad has the majority of the country behind him and always had the majority of his country behind him.

                It seems weird to me though. What difference does it make to send monetary aid to the Ukrainian governments military expenses or if Germany/Poland give them the tanks they now have and put in an order to backfill?
                If Russia would attack Poland, shit would hit the fan anyways, regardless of if Poland had 200 more or less tanks, no?

                Do you know warhammer 40k?
                Imagine modern tanks like the tanks there. Not irreplaceable but both difficult and time consuming to replace. It's less extreme but it should get the point across.
                Giving away 30 tanks means you'll lack those for many years and your recruits won't get to train enough due to it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nonsense and Assad has the majority of the country behind him and always had the majority of his country behind him.
                Doesn't matter. Even in civil war situations, many people don't pick a side and only look oit for themselves. There are studies out there that claim that it only takes like 2% of the population to kickstart a violent regime change. And considering the 40% youth unemployment in Syria and the then soaring prices, I am positive that that threshold was met with flying colors.

                >Do you know warhammer 40k?
                I know of it, but I generally don't base my analysis on a piece of fiction. Germany is an industrial powerhouse, with an accumulation of decades of budget surplus, with a population of 80 million people and an engineering tradition. If people in the 1900s could crank out thousands of tanks and planes a year during a World War, then it should be possible to make a couple hundred during peace time, with technologically advanced and rich allies and with access to the global market. The only thing that seems to be lacking is the will to do it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany does not have the capabilities to churn out 100s of tanks anymore. They could build them up but you're delusional if you think they're going to build man and pay for multiple new production lines and factories that will be useless and obsolete 5 years from now. The arms industry has already increased production within their means but you won't see any big government program to make more guns.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seems short-sighted, considering e.g. Poland has been shopping in Korea for a while and demonstrating the capability of equipment designed to shit on old Soviet Surplus would probably interest every third world country that has a neighbour decked out in that crap.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Doesn't matter. Even in civil war situations, many people don't pick a side and only look oit for themselves. There are studies out there that claim that it only takes like 2% of the population to kickstart a violent regime change. And considering the 40% youth unemployment in Syria and the then soaring prices, I am positive that that threshold was met with flying colors.
                I lived together with a syrian and you couldn't be more wrong. The guy was a bit naive but I still learned a lot and looked up more.
                Look up why and HOW Assad's father consolidated his power both politically and on the streets.
                >know of it, but I generally don't base my analysis on a piece of fiction
                And you shouldn't but it could have helped you understand.
                Germany currently produces about 1 new tank per week, which isn't that special for modern tanks and far above average. What you demand would have been impossible for multiple reasons even if the budget for it were to magically appear because there just aren't enough experts to do it.
                And contrary to what you clearly believe modern tankery isn't as simple as it was in WWII and that includes the production.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I lived together with a syrian and you couldn't be more wrong. The guy was a bit naive but I still learned a lot and looked up more.
                >Look up why and HOW Assad's father consolidated his power both politically and on the streets.

                And I talked to 10 Syrians and they all said I was right. Personal anecdotes aren't really a good argument, especially online.
                I am not saying Assad Sr. or Jr. were never popular, but 2011 wasn't really a good time and it's not surprising how these protests quickly spiraled into a proper civil war, considering the swiftness and brutality the Assad regime used to break them up.

                >And contrary to what you clearly believe modern tankery isn't as simple as it was in WWII and that includes the production.

                Sure it got more complex, but our production methods also improved and the ressources available are much bigger. Sure, by sheer volume production of WWII era tanks probably can't be matched today, but Germany also produces like 10.000 cars a day and those are complicated too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >And I talked to 10 Syrians and they all said I was right
                Great but you're still completely ignorant and failed to inform yourself on the critical fighters you mentioned before, wo forms the hard core of assad supporters, how they came to be, what they do and how, how many they are and what they're willing to do.
                Yet you pretend I should take your opinion seriously and keep reading.
                I won't.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I lived together with a syrian and you couldn't be more wrong. The guy was a bit naive but I still learned a lot and looked up more.
                >Look up why and HOW Assad's father consolidated his power both politically and on the streets.

                And I talked to 10 Syrians and they all said I was right. Personal anecdotes aren't really a good argument, especially online.
                I am not saying Assad Sr. or Jr. were never popular, but 2011 wasn't really a good time and it's not surprising how these protests quickly spiraled into a proper civil war, considering the swiftness and brutality the Assad regime used to break them up.

                >And contrary to what you clearly believe modern tankery isn't as simple as it was in WWII and that includes the production.

                Sure it got more complex, but our production methods also improved and the ressources available are much bigger. Sure, by sheer volume production of WWII era tanks probably can't be matched today, but Germany also produces like 10.000 cars a day and those are complicated too.

                The story behind that is actually pretty interesting and involves massively handing out roids to street fighters on a grand scale and integrating it into their culture to this day.
                But you decided to be a know-it-all cunt so I won't spoon feed you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                The story behind that is actually pretty interesting and involves massively handing out roids to street fighters on a grand scale and integrating it into their culture to this day.
                But you decided to be a know-it-all cunt so I won't spoon feed you.

                Why would I do the legwork for you? You know that "do your own research" is a faggy way to argue. Either put up or shut up. Make an argument and link some source if you like and I might reply. What the fuck do you expect me to do with "you should read up on Assad anf how he came to power and with whom and what they did", you schizo?
                I do know it all, as long as you haven't made a case against it. Assad was unpopular enough in 2011 that he resorted to sending in the army to crush protesters, which only aggrevated the protesters more into a civil war situation, at which point foreign powers began picking sides. Simple as.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tldnr
                You didn't try to have a conversation with me and learn.
                You were aware of your own lack of knowledge, just made shit up and expected me to educate you for free.
                Next time keep it short and don't write long posts about fantasies I won't read.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                correct

                Assad was rolling tanks against his subjects before the U.S. started meddling. The arab spring would have happened either way. There were million-strong protests in several cities in the ME at the same time. Whether the civil war would have evolved differently if the U.S. was fully absent is impossible to say, but the mass protests and civil wars would have happened either way.
                Not everything is a glowie spec op. It's hard to believe for bootlickers, jut sometimes people get fed up and want to murk the cunt that is responsible for how shitty their country is run.

                CIA/Neocon propaganda

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A war in Europe lead by an expansionist meglomaniac, which lead to a massive refugee and energy crisis is less Europes problem than that of the U.S.? Come on...

                >don't pretend Libya wasn't a huge mistake caused by Obama.
                The Brits and French also wanted it and that was part of the reason Obama went in, but those two shit the bed and had to get carried by the U.S. in the end.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't make a difference for Europe who rules Ukraine, it was and is a corrupt shithole.
                But bleeding out Russia and becoming more dominant on the world stage as its global influence recedes has been one of the dreams of America ever since the 50s
                By now Europe is deeply involved in the war but America clearly benefits much more from it.
                And now don't start with retarded fantasies about Russkis overrunning Europe if they would have taken Ukraine. The incompetent retards are completely toothless and without their nukes Putin would've been strung up in the Kremlin a year ago after a swift invasion.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You haven't replied to my argument. The war is more Europes problem than the U.S., because the U.S. is largely unaffected by it. Europe now has a security, a refugee and an energy crisis, so regardless of what your brown hands type about Ukraine, it is more Europes problem.
                Russia was not and has not been the equal or a threat to the U.S. since the end of the cold war. It was just a nuisance. Even Putin admitted that in the past, which is why he constantly tried to get a gang of thirdies together, like BRICs or CSTO in a pathetic attempt to be a major balancing player in a multipolar world.

                The U.S. doesn't lose or benefit anything from this war. Yeah, I am sure that the MIC is happy to get more orders, but I bet Biden would have liked to kick back and focus on internal issues for four years after he followed through with pulling out of Afghanistan.
                Russia would have definitely carried the war to Moldova, Georgia, taken over Belarus and Armenia and potentially even attacked Finland and Sweden, who all aren't in NATO, if their plan of a quick and decisive regime change and annexation in Ukraine would have worked. Russia would have increased its population by like 40% just from absorbing Georgia, Armenia, Belarus and Ukraine. It would, as the second largest food producer, absorb the fifth largest food producer (Ukraine). It would get major influence over the Black Sea. More oil and gas fields, as well as a tighter grip over Europes energy supply. It would revive its image within and abroad and motivate the disengaged Russian population by virtue of international success.
                If you think a quick victory in Ukraine wouldn't have put Russia in a dominant position in Europe, you are delusional.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You haven't replied to my argument. The war is more Europes problem than the U.S., because the U.S. is largely unaffected by it.
                Europe was completely unaffected by it until it chose to make it its business.
                The rest of your post is tldnr

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How is Europe unaffected by an energy, refugee and security crisis right at its border, Pajeet?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refugee crisis
                Still mad about that. I was promised Ukrainian cuties and all I see are washed up moms with 3-5 kids each and fat fuck draft dodgers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Since both Ukraine and Russia need the money there wouldn't have been an energy crisis without European involvement in the war.
                Similarly the war would have ended before most refugees even would have had the time to leave the country without European aid.
                And Turkey is unironically a greater security threat than Russia. Russia has no ability to invade any European nation successfully that is part of the EU, NATO or both.
                Which leaves them to attack what exactly?
                Belarus?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia failed their Kiev front long before substantial military aid reached Ukraine... Except if your argument is that a bunch of Javelins were enough to end Russia's imperial ambitions.
                In this case no self-respecting country would just sit back and reward Russian icompetence by not kicking them while they are down. If Russia truly was a great power, it would have crushed Ukraine in three days and European involvment wouldn't be a topic now. Alas, it's a shithole country, like the rest of the third world, and should serve as an example to you and your slave-minded ilk.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a bunch of Javelins
                >downplaying foreign aid this hard
                Disgusting to be quite honest tbqh tbh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's not a European affair, America has more to win and lose than all of western Europe.
                Post hand shitskin. Your IQ has to be higher than 88 to post here.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Germany has the capacity to make a huge impact
              They took inventory and figured out they're able to send 17 Leopard 2s. 17. They use broomsticks for training because they don't have any ammunition. They can barely build 50 Leopards a year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I seriously doubt that the fourth largest economy in the world and the fourth biggest weapons exporter can't make more if it really wanted. If Germany committed 20bln in the short and mid-term to arm Ukraine with modern equipment, they could get 100 tanks done in a couple of months for sure.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As I said, few countries were meeting the 2% goal, including France for most years after 2000, Spain Italy and other major countries. I think only the Brits, Poland, Turkey and Greece actually met it for most years in that time period.
          Germany was extremely militarized during the Cold War, so its end and the economic difficulty that came with reintegrating east germany meant that continued high militar, spending was extremely unpopular in that perceived new era of peace.
          Foreign policy and military projection was left to France, Britain and the U.S. and Germany had little interest and popular support for high military spending.
          Again, if Germany continously met its 2% goal, it would have spent more than France and Poland combined, which would have been met with similar distrust by their neighbors.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >France withdrew from NATO
          They withdrew their fleet from NATO central command, and refused foreign troops and nukes in their country that were not under French command.
          de Gaulle threatened to leave NATO but never actually did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany specifically enabled Russia's invasion of Ukraine by making statements on Russia's behalf, building NS1&2, and making themselves as dependent as possible on Russian resources.

      Even now Germany is trying everything possible to reopen NS2 and get back to suckling Russian NG, deny and block military aid to Ukraine and force an end to this conflict where "Russia wins."

      The reason is clear that oligarchs who have financial interest in Russia are controlling Germany.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >three paragraphs of lies
        have a nice day

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          go get yourself fucked in the ass, pidor.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The reason is clear that oligarchs who have financial interest in Russia are controlling Germany.

        Saying that is a crime in Europe and Canada. Watch your mouth!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >imagine believing degenerate anti-german propaganda talking points

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What’s insane is that from an outside prospective this is so blindly Germany’s fault. Why are you the largest economy in Europe yet you are the least prepared to meet your defense obligations?

      They totally bought into Russian propaganda. They sincerely believed the 21st century was different. That this was going to be an era of peace and prosperity in Europe. That the Russian mind had changed and Putin was a European type leader.

      That's totally on them. Russia doesnt change. You dont buy a house near the shit area of chicago and expect to be safe. Russians will never ever be peaceful. Their whole society relies on taking as much land as it can. Even if it takes years in between wars.

      Part of this is they are still in denial. They think if they just stay calm, Russia will stop. But they won't stop until their broken. And even then, that will be a 10 to 20 year break until they can rebuild and do it again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of this would have even been necessary if amerimutts didn't get into a needless dickwaving contest with the soviets.
      You started the shit and dragged everyone with you, so pay up, Ami.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you are brown

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if this was what caused a lot of GSG operators conspiring to assassinate their politicians?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PS: if we go by GDP Germany sends more than the US.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think that Americans should fight their own proxy wars, instead of asking other people to fight their proxy wars for them.
      If the US is unable to win a proxy war against Russia in the Ukraine it’s the fault of the US. It means the US is weak and can’t do shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It means the US is weak and can’t do shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is an EU proxy war, moron.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
        Germany helped start this shit, they should help finish it. Don't pretend this is somehow the US trying to get Ukraine to become the 51st state.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "Fuck the EU" - neocon Victoria Nuland on her call discussing the endgame of the 2014 CIA Color Revolution ran in Ukraine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally who.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you dont know who Victoria Nuland is? are you literally retarded or just playing obtuse?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I'm saying she's irrelevant. That's what "literally who" means.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay so you're playing obtuse then. Because she's relevant, and you're intellectually dishonest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >American diplomat
                Do you know how fucking many of those there are? Do you know that almost half of them were appointed out of nepotism?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said you're intellectually dishonest downplaying the control the neocons have over the state dept, pentagon, cia etc.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The current Secretary of State for political affairs. Also a major player in the 2014 overthrow of the ukrainian government.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                UNDER Secretary of State, so literally who.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >U.S. intelligence agency and diplomat talking about one of the biggest protests in Europe and how to deal with it.
            Groundbreaking.
            This whole Nuland call shit always cracked me up. What makes a strong nation is discussing exactly such events and formulating plans and a position for it. Nothing said in that call is particularly shocking or conspiratorial beyond the U.S. obviously being happy if another country want to join the free world out of their own volition.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol it was a CIA Color Revolution, the second they ran in Ukraine, followed by an unconstitutional coup, all overseen by the Neocons. hilarious everytime you shills try to downplay it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hope your conspiracy theory is right and your shithole is the target of the next color revolution, so bootlickers like you get the rope lmao.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my country already had a domestic Color Revolution in 2020

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't know Malians use PrepHole, but now I get where your hate-boner for western superiority comes from. Have fun with Wagner and whatever happens after they leave.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >CIA Color Revolution
                Words uttered only by the terminally insane.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Chernobyl was CIA you damn imperialist
                KILL
                ALL
                SHITSKINS
                KILL
                ALL
                SLANT EYES
                KILL
                ALL
                LEFTISTS
                KILL
                ALL
                BOOMERS

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the funniest part is that this retard is in here implying that the US is trying to dismantle the EU and oppose Ukraine's entry into it- since that's one of Russia's primary goals, why would they react so violently?
              in reality, Nuland was just shitting on the EU because EU leadership are retarded cuckolds who can only be trusted to work against their own interests if it means costing the US a single dollar, see contemporary example: strong-arming the US into shutting down domestic metal production, and then dramatically reducing metal production in the EU the second times get hard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >2014 CIA Color Revolution ran in Ukraine.
            rofl

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't pretend this is somehow the US trying to get Ukraine to become the 51st state.
          its the US trying to get Ukraine to become another Israel, and conveniently cannibalizing the EU's industry.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >cannibalize the EU's industry
            This is an utterly absurd argument. War in Ukraine means there's a higher demand for EU's industrial output, since a lot of it will go into equipping the war and rebuilding. If Germany loses a lot of its Leopards to Ukraine, just... uuuuhhh... make more. Sounds like it is a net win if you're a defense contractor in Germany.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, you're a retard lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                The real threat to Germany's defense industry is when they have no domestic customers to buy their products.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Uh yeah, haha lol

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >no argument
              The real threat to Germany's defense industry is when they have no domestic customers to buy their products.

              You're so fucking dumb lol. You gunna build tanks on windmill energy? lol. You gunna pay 10x for US LNG for your factories or just move your production to the US? Like I said you're a fuckin retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/mtGPpKj.jpg

                Uh yeah, haha lol

                t. Vatniks

                Should have built nuclear power plants years ago. Germany's fault once again, no sympathy.

                Send the Leopard 2's or get the fuck out of NATO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Send the Leopard 2's or get the fuck out of NATO
                Germany will do what it wants and there's nothing people can do to cause either.
                Leaving NATO wouldn't even hurt Germany.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >leave NATO
                >leave EU
                >suddenly all except 3 or 4 the NATO/EU countries can't afford shit anymore

                Sounds like a good plan. Even better if they don't give a fuck about refugees anymore. Maybe they will go to poland then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >JUST BUILD NUCLEAR BRO!!!
                >NEVERMIND THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE INDUSTRY NEEDS GAS, JUST BUILD MORE PLANTS LOL!!!!
                aren't you sick of gaslighting?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They need energy not gas

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                specific industries like chemicals and metallurgy cannot work with electricity, no, they need gas because it's a million times more efficient

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not only that. A lot of industries need methane as an ingredient to their product. Same goes for coal by the way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but Germany has one of the largest chemistry and lots of steel and similar industry.
                Gas is required both in chemistry as a component and to create high temperatures. Nuclear plants can't replace either.
                Find better sources, yours have been feeding you propaganda.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Find better sources
                lmao what? I didn't read jack shit. I get my information by spouting nonsense online and then having autists rage at me with sourced information within seconds. Didn't know gas was important for the steel and chem industry thanks for the information guys appreciate it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're welcome I largely follow the same MO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They need energy not gas
                lol you're sooooooo fucking dumb.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                everytime you get BTFO you just accuse people to be vatniks but then say vatniks are retarded. so you're lower IQ than a vatnik I guess lol.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We should just steamroll Poland and force shitposters like you to work in labor camps for free.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >euros and eastern block countries destroy each other, actively wish for each others downfall
          >”WTF these conniving Americans!”
          Can’t make this shit up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany became an actual cuckshed the second the Wall fell and the DDR was fully reintegrated. Even HK got fucked up various times from the Bundesrepublik trying to garden gnome around everything. Issue is they’re also autistic as shit and think Germany is in the same state as it was decades ago, which couldn’t be farther from the truth if it tried. They’ve been sucking Russian dick harder than a Central Asian conscript for years as well which just complicates things even more.
      >tldr modern Germany is a total clown pit and you have to be an actual retard to seriously believe in it in current year

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany will remain like this, in its post-storic numbness until Burgerland ceases to be a superpower

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poles will scream and cry about any perceived German attempt to lead the EU but when it comes to Ukraine they suddenly start bitching about Germany not being enough of a leader.
    Either it's cognitive dissonance kicking in now that they realize the authoritarian german boogeyman they hyped up so much was fake all along or they have a completely different agenda here

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hot tak:
    the whole discussion is a US psyop to flood Europe with surplus Abrams after the Leos are sent to Ukraine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ding ding ding

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good. Abrams is a better tank and comes free of kraut bullshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Send 1500 then. You know, children are dying!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck, this is the reason isn't it? Germany doesn't want to depend on US.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao, why do pigkrainians think theyre entitled to get free weapons from other countries?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not for Ukies to decide, but for their allies, who overwhelmingly decided to give them free weapons, all of them except Germany.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well they beg for them 24/7

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Free weapons like the Gepard, Iris-T, Marder, PzH2000, M270, Patriots, Dingo, M113, Stingers, Matador, Panzerfaust, Cobra, and a shit ton of ammo and small arms? Plus the whole Ringtausch program that resulted in the deliveries of BMPs, T-72s and M-55s.
        But yeah everybody gave stuff except the Germans I guess

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Ukies are grateful for those. But there will be no new offensive without tanks, tanks are the bottleneck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but the Bundeswehr is a trainwreck, we need tanks too.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No we're talking.
              The REAL question that is not gettign asked is 'Why did we not order Leo2 production to start one day after the Zueitenwende speech?'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because Scholz is a cuck, Lamprecht is a cuck, the entire SPD are cucks, Greens and FDP are secretly also cucks despite claiming not to be. Not only did they not order the rebuilding of tank construction lines (that could have been used for other vehicles as well), they did not even fucking order ammunition.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because you don’t know anything about Germany, the German society is anti war, they don’t want to talk about war at all. If you work for Rheinmetall or do university projects for them you get bullied by the antifa.

                That means there are huge barriers for expanding our weaponry, it needs time. Now the German society is slowly changing their stand in that regard.

                But you need to wait. A lot People here are just braindamaged and root for the aggressor like Russia or commie Kurds because muh they got bullied so it’s their right to bomb civilians down.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What for? You're not going to do anything with them anyway because muh pacifism

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And Ukies are grateful for those
            No they aren't.

            [...]
            >free weapons
            That's not how Lead-Lease works. Ukraine will have to pay every cent back after the war ends.

            >That's not how Lead-Lease works.
            Lend-lease is an american program not the German one.
            German donations are actual donations contrary to american ones and when the point was raised in parliament the guy got booed for being a meanie.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >overwhelmingly
        so you're saying most didn't send vehicles
        >all of them except Germany.
        but that is a lie

        You're either a vatmoron shill or a completely delusional pole.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >URRR A VATmoronRRRR

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Free weapons like the Gepard, Iris-T, Marder, PzH2000, M270, Patriots, Dingo, M113, Stingers, Matador, Panzerfaust, Cobra, and a shit ton of ammo and small arms? Plus the whole Ringtausch program that resulted in the deliveries of BMPs, T-72s and M-55s.
      But yeah everybody gave stuff except the Germans I guess

      >free weapons
      That's not how Lead-Lease works. Ukraine will have to pay every cent back after the war ends.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Germoid seething thread No. 6345

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >innocent people die every day
    >innocent
    lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's your fault! if your government became our bitch, and you loved our glorious leader putin, we wouldn't have to shell your babushka, you, and your children

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turkogerman here, I like polish women but their men are insufferable, so fuck them

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I admire the Polish foreign policy so much it's unreal. They latched onto Germany like a pitbull, and won't let them get away with any of their usual bullshit. Give it time, and krauts will crack under pressure, giving reparations, Leopards, financial aid, technological secrets and everything else the Powerful Polack will ask for. Shouldn't have invaded them in WW2, really. Go go Poland!

    t. Ukrainian

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bandera is cringe but apart from that u guys are alright

      t.pollack

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bandera is cringe
        I agree he is a questionable figure to worship.
        Thing is, not many people even gave a fuck about him before russoids started forcing muh bindera as boogeyman in 2014.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Germans are, especially post WW2 but it was there before, obsessed with their own rectitude and respectability. Its a protestant reformation hangover, you see it in the Netherlands as well and a weaker form in parts of the UK and weaker still in the US (although both had it historically). Shaming them is absolutely the right course of action and really the only one that will work. Much of their unwillingness to defend themselves comes not just from the WW2 taboo but from the feeling it isn't really dignified or respectable - something best left to shameless Anglos. Tut tut tut, how primitive.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >obsessed with their own rectitude and respectability.
        >on the ZOG's side

        pick one and only one

        Germany is the whore of the ZOG but I can't really blame them, they gave everything they had in the last century

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I admire the Polish foreign policy so much it's unreal.
      Don't, it's largely internal consumption propaganda and next elections getting close (think Putinist propadanda lite). The aid for Ukraine is one of the very few things current government did remotely OK and if they had their way they'd rather put machine guns on the Eastern border, told the Ukrainians to GTFO and be all POLSKA GUROM, except with the popular opinion being what it is, it'd see them killed within a week.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stfu Diaspora-anon.
        There is a good reason no wants you here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Germans are, especially post WW2 but it was there before, obsessed with their own rectitude and respectability. Its a protestant reformation hangover, you see it in the Netherlands as well and a weaker form in parts of the UK and weaker still in the US (although both had it historically). Shaming them is absolutely the right course of action and really the only one that will work. Much of their unwillingness to defend themselves comes not just from the WW2 taboo but from the feeling it isn't really dignified or respectable - something best left to shameless Anglos. Tut tut tut, how primitive.

      >send the second most aid worldwide
      >ungrateful slavoid subhumans complain and feel entitled to more
      Holy shit Hitler was wrong, you people can't get civilised and need to be removed permanently.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hey, can we export these tanks that we paid for, t. Poland
        >no t. Germany
        >fuck you t. Poland
        >WTF YOU UNGRATEFUL LITTLE FUCKS DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TLDR TLDR TLDR

        lol get fucked germ

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>hey, can we export these tanks that we paid for, t. Poland
          You'd have a point if Poland would have asked.
          Buy they haven't because

          Poland's PM announced they're willing to send tanks.
          If a broad coalition of countries dies the same.
          The second part of the quote is almost always left out, that's why they aren't doing anything. They're waiting for other countries to agree to send some.
          But so is Germany so Poland's words are completely hollow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh come on, depending on whose measures you used and what financial year its usually the UK not Germany anyway. That isn't an alibi for Germany failing Europe and NATO.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's a pattern here... i'm starting to understand why the Swedes, the Germans and the Russians wanted to genocide the Poles

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you will live to see Moscow and Berlin burn within your lifetime

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland is free to donate their entire Leo2 fleet today. That would be 2/3s of the hulls Ukraine has requested. Add the czech and finnish hulls and it’s almost done.
    I wonder why they didn’t do that yet. I mean, children are dying.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're only alowed to use that arguemnt when you try to blame Germany.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Think of the children, Pavel!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany BLOCKED the export of all Leo 2s they have a license over. They explicitly blocked Finland and Poland you inbred Turk

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why do you lie? no export license was requested.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How are you this dumb? Finland and Poland have been talking about sending leopards for two weeks. It’s been all over the media. All Germany has to do is publicly announce that they are free to send tanks. Why haven’t they done this?
          Because a German politician is worthless. The English, Poles and Baltics are aware of Russian menace. German politicians live in fantasy land.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It’s been all over the media. All Germany has to do is publicly announce that they are free to send tanks. Why haven’t they done this?
            Why haven't they asked?
            And Poland said it's willing to send tanks as part of a larger coalition.
            Not alone.
            Which is the same thing Germany said.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How many times do they need to announce and say it in the media? Do you really think they are talking this much in the media and not a single person has asked Scholtz? That the only problem is the fact they haven’t asked German leadership yet and only talked to the media?
              You must lack common sense. They are asking German leadership in private constantly and Germany is telling them no. That’s why they leak to the media. To pressure German government.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How many times do they need to announce and say it in the media?
                0 times.
                They don't need to announce it at all.
                They need to make a formal request as the fucking contract they signed explicitly spells out.
                They can announce the request too if they want.
                What they can't do is not make the request and then wonder why their lack of a request hasn't been granted.
                You stupid fucking retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bro German leadership totally wants to send leopards its just the paperwork isn’t in order
                Why is it so difficult to accept that your government is blocking others from sending aid to European country under attack?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany doesn't want to send Leos and neither does Poland. Neither country has taken any actual steps to make it happen so far. Just a lot of talk form both sides

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Learn the fuck to read you stupid moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know what would put actual pressure on the German government? A publically announced export request. That way the German government has to give them an official direct response

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s why they leak to the media. To pressure German government.
                >they leak to the media to pressure the German government
                >but they don't make a public request that would ACTUALLY pressure the German government and force Scholz to take a position
                Hint: Poland does not want to send Leos alone, your retarded PM said so himself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Germans are cowards because they don't want to have to deal with losing tanks, losing the European market to Abrams to refill European stocks and losing experienced crews because they wouldn't have enough tanks to train with
            >poles are too cowardly to ask for permission and send tanks
            >one is okay and the other isn't
            Idk maybe the PiSslord should grow some balls and just send the fucking request already instead of impotently whining.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did they? Do you have a source on that?
        Because that would have passed through Bundessicherheitsrat, I am sure there is official documentation on that.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow never seen this many russoid and tankie larping as germans

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the indecisive tip-toey fence sitting shit that pisses me off
    Germans wanted to be the leader of continental Europe, have their EU, their economy, their MItteleuropa, the whole shtick
    And when push comes to shove they're the most lost, confused and devoid of any goal
    If they went full Hungary last year and stood by that position I would have more sympathy and respect for them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Germans wanted to be the leader of continental Europe

      No. As soon as germany tries anything a country sees as "leading" europe the newspapers are full of MUH THIRD REICH MERKEL

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Polish hate towards Germany grows with each passing day.

    they can go fuck themselfs nobody cares all poland does is to cry either about russia or about germany

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wanting dead ruskie invaders this much
    How can you not love these people? It's impossible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When was the last time Poland delivered any weapons? How many Poles are fighting in Ukraine? Maybe it's all just talk.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How many Poles are fighting in Ukraine?
        you'll find out after the war

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When was the last time Poland delivered any weapons?
        Like 2 or 3 days ago.
        >How many Poles are fighting in Ukraine?
        More than there are Americans last time I saw some stats. Assuming those are true which they may or may not be.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there's been lots of polish mercenaries dying in ukraine

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scholz is a gay who's small balls are in Putin hands because cumex

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gemany's attitude is unacceptable

    this is why Russia's way of dealing with things is better than the USA's way

    I always see NATO fags praising how mutual cooperation and treating your allies well is better but see how it turns out ? Germany basically turned Poland from a third world shithole to a first world country through subsidies and this is how they are thanked by the Poles : threats of breaking military contracts without due process, disrespect, accusing those who do the most to do nothing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huh I wonder why Germany agreed to do that, to subsidize polish development…

      What a debt of gratitude the Poles owe the Germans for all of the help they’ve received in the last 80 years.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >itt third world rajeets pretending to be german, turks and rajeets in germany and east german half mongol rape babies simping for russia

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      found the eternally butthurt toilet cleaner

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean obviously, our gov's rhetoric is mostly geared towards the retarded part of the native audience that will happily gobble anything that says 'krauts bad' without the second thought. Especially at first, when most western actors were still on the fence about helping Ukraine, kicking germs when they were already down and screaming 'I TOLD YOU SO' was kind of pointless (though still funny)
    On the other hand you have to be retarded if you won't admit that they aren't doing their part and that their government isn't full of, if not true vatniks, then at least useful idiots. There is no going back and if anyone there still think that Russian victory is the best conclusion for germany then they are unironically traitors to the whole western block and the very institutions that they spend half of century building and benefitting from. Let's not forget that they were able to underfund their own military and enjoy their naive rhetoric for decades because others were pulling their weight.

    t. moderate pole

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >.t

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Polaks have no instinct for self preservation, pissing off both Russia and Germany at the same time (again).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This time they were smart enough to hump America's leg instead of Britain and France's. They'll be fine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What could go wrong?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why is the cunt that reunited with the DDR guzzling Russian cum?
    >why are politicians that grew up in the DDR and were brainwashed friendly to Russia?
    >why are the average Germans, half of which were Stasi informants, so against opposing Russia?
    Mystery.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is a zionist garden gnome supporting the largest war in Europe since WWII between the two countries that caused the largest anti-gnomish pogroms before 1940 ?

      rey mysterio 619

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its almost as if ashkenazis are getting revenge by having slavs slaughter eachother to clear the land for the restoration of Khazaria

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    germs are right. no amount of tanks will matter because it's ukrainians operating them. Russian victory will be inevitable

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WE HAVE KOPIUM OVERDOSE ITT!
      THIS IS NOT A DRILL
      I REPEAT, KOPIUM OVERDOSE ITT!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        am i wrong? ukraine will not win unless western coalition goes in to end it once and for all

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody wants your shitty Leos with strings attached to them. Korean age is NOW, g*rmoids

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to help the ukrainians destroy as much russian shit as possible. But with the attitude the polacks are showing each year they should just stfu and be happy about all the german money they get already. Every decision germany makes that gets more polacks seething is good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >garden gnomes sell out your whole industry
      >eu gives you gibs out of pity
      damn, what a deal

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PISS PROPAGANDA

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poland needs to be dismembered.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      keep seething

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Innocent people die every day.
    Well, Zelinski could have capitulated early in this conflict to prevent it, but instead he decided to put everyone into this meat grinder and even make NATO fight for him. Do poles want to be next? Russia can deliver that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >holhols didn't roll over and die!
      seethe more

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hate towards Germany grows with each passing day
    As it should!

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do not care what perfidious PiSsoids lied about today. Take it to 4chan.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >acting up to the full potential of the German state mean, we could, but he wouldn't survive it.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what exactly is stopping Poland from sending Leopards to Ukraine and giving Germany a middle finger?
    I'm sure the US would be happy to replace Germany as a seller if they were to stop selling to Poland because of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leopards need special german tools and special german training to repair and maintain. If Poland pisses off Germany, Germany wont repair or maintain Polands Leopard tanks anymore

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So wave some Euro bucks at retired German engineers, Poland.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That said, I want the Poles to do it anyways, just so Germany has to deal with the bad optic.
        Poland should do it, because it has a lot to gain politically and could dumpster Germany in the process, backing up their incessant barking with action.
        Which is why it's surprising they didn't do it yet. I think there is more to it than Germany refusing maintenance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pooland is just bluffing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poland's PM announced they're willing to send tanks.
      If a broad coalition of countries dies the same.
      The second part of the quote is almost always left out, that's why they aren't doing anything. They're waiting for other countries to agree to send some.
      But so is Germany so Poland's words are completely hollow.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except if everyone is willing to do it if others are, why don't they make a joint declaration and just start?
        Seems like Poland doesn't want to be seen as the spearhead of that initiative just as much as Germany. Or Germany is threatening something else behibd closed doors if Poland takes the responsibility.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, every country would prefer to keep their tanks, even poland.
          And only poland and Finland have suggested they are willing to send tanks. The others haven't because they'd rather win the ear while keeping their tanks.
          If it makes you feel better the Dutch have offered financial support to buy tanks from others for Ukraine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It seems weird to me though. What difference does it make to send monetary aid to the Ukrainian governments military expenses or if Germany/Poland give them the tanks they now have and put in an order to backfill?
            If Russia would attack Poland, shit would hit the fan anyways, regardless of if Poland had 200 more or less tanks, no?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing but their own unwillingness to do so. As Poland has ordered M1 and K2 tanks, they could theoretically gift their entire L2 arsenal. Which they do not want to do. Because it would put them in a situation where they lack tanks in their active force and need years to train crews and mechanics on the new models, compromising their defensive posture.

      The entire issue is blown up by Twitter monkeys who’s only qualification to take part in the debate is ownership of a smartphone. There are a lot of political and economic interests involved, but they are mostly ignored in the public debate. The individual interests might be divergent, but they all involve parts of the L2 fleet being burned in the steppes.

      Then there is political maneuvering because of elections in Poland this year and hate the kraut is a mode of political communication there.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Germany is an arrogant and presumptuous pseudo-empire that must be dismantled. They view the EU as their own personal fiefdom and the United States as their boorish but loyal dog. The occupation of Germany after WW2 did nothing but teach them the worst traits of the British, French, and Soviets - instilling in them both petty cowardice but also a slavish collectivism. Reunifying the country was a mistake, and not splitting it up into smaller states an even bigger mistake.

    Germany must send Leopards or they should be kicked out of NATO entirely.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Organic.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heh, the globohomo internal catfight has begun in earnest. Love it. LOVE IT.

    You gays brought this on yourselves. I'm going to enjoy watching these globohomo economies burn to the ground.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The eternal polecucks

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol the more Russia drags the war out the more they disarm NATO nations and destroy the EU economies causing it to fall apart eventually. Masterful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love how the nation of antifa morons where serfs have to steal washing machines have no concept of just how rich the West is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        30 trillion in debt and counting. Petrodollar in a decade-long process of being dismantled.

        But really its a matter of production capacity and the US destroyed its manufacturing base because the whore government is controlled by corporations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >manufacturing base
          Mexico alone has a bigger industrial capacity than Russia.
          >Petrodollar
          The ravings of schizos.
          The reason people deal in dollars is because they don't fluctuare wildly and do not rely on getting propped up by constant pumping and trade restrictions like the ruble.
          The only thing you have left is impotently gloating about how China will surpass the USA after they're done securing Russia.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only thing you have left is impotently gloating about how China will surpass the USA after they're done securing Russia.
            peak irony is that Davos, the people who have invented a rising china, now universally agree that "peak China" has already passed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ol the more Russia drags the war out the more they disarm NATO nations and destroy the EU economies causing it to fall apart eventually. Masterful.
      its fucking beautiful too
      watching the absolute pitiful, pathetic death-spiral of the gay liberal world order, and 'western hegemony' has been almost a 'high'

      its like getting 'high' to watch the absolute dismantling of 80 years of liberal fascist order, by quadruple-felon murderers wielding soviet era trash.
      sociopathic liberal narcissists attempted to invade Russia by proxy, and failed so hard it erased 80 years of geopolitical progress.
      lol all over joe fucking biden and hunter fucking biden
      liberal fascists tried to start WW3 by invading Russia, rather than face personal investigation

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are trying too hard. The bait is shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"le every post is some rules for radicals bullet point i learned in my power-point class!"
          God, I hate you nafo gays so much, the hate became sentient

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know what you are on about, but if you actually mean it, you need to take your meds.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck germany and fuck germoids (their upcoming generations are going to consist mostly of turks and nafri morons btw)

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one day there will be a polish flag in berlin
    don't think we forgot

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I-is that an armoured gun carriage? From the w-western hemispheres? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE! WE LITTERALLY HAVE TO NOOOOK, WE HAVE NO RECOURSE BUT TO NOOOOK NOW BECAUSE OF YOU!

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is what happens when you castrate a country.

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