The Korean Ambassador to Romania: We can deliver any military equipment in a very short time

https://www.defenseromania.ro/ambasadorul-coreei-de-sud-putem-livra-orice-tip-de-echipament-militar-intr-un-timp-foarte-scurt_628329.html
>Romania and South Korea have much more in common than it seems at first glance, remarks the South Korean ambassador, His Excellency Rim Kap-soo. "With Romania, the free world begins on the eastern flank, and with Korea, the free world begins in Northeast Asia. So, we share the same security environment, we share the same values, we share the same strategic partners with the European Union, and we also share the military alliance with the United States," the South Korean diplomat said.

>Practically, Romania will be able to benefit from South Korea's expertise, in the context in which Seoul did not have the three-decade "vacation" that Europe experienced after the collapse of the USSR.

>Due to the security context on the Korean Peninsula, the South Korean defense industry has been forced to operate at high capacity at all times.

>"On average, 2.6% of our national GDP was devoted to defense, so we did not enjoy the benefits of peace. We continue to invest a lot of money in our defense capabilities, developing our defense industries. We still have a lot of defense equipment capabilities. This means that we can deliver any military equipment in a very short time" , says Ambassador Rim Kap-soo.

>The program provides for the purchase of 54 self-propelled howitzers on tracks (3 systems x 18 155 mm howitzers + ammunition + logistical support). The South Korean company Hanwha Aerospace remained the only bidder in the competition, with discussions currently in the final phase of clarifications.

>Romania is also interested in the acquisition of 296 Combat Vehicles (in the "Infantry Fighting Vehicle" - MLI program) , but also an additional number of tanks , to complete the future 54 Abrams tanks, which will reach the end of 2027.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do Korean tanks compare to the Leopards?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute superiority.
      >autoloader by default
      >120mm, but more accurate
      >better protection per kilogram
      >Trophy integration for export versions
      In a live fire demonstration supervised by the Norwegian military, it managed to hit all targets while the Leopard missed a few shots.

      • 1 month ago
        T-I-G-E-R-S

        Source on Norwegian demo?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Go look it up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn. I hope my c**t retires our L2ASGs soon to get the Korean ones.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the frick up. Singaporky pig

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They are lighter and have more advanced electronics + targeting radar.

        But Leopards have better side protection.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Apart from the frontal protection arc being smaller as well as the quality of protection itself being worse (can't resist Kornet, other large ATGMs frontally), the side protection is also miniscule too and it comes with no mine protection which is built into Leo 2s as standard.
        There's a reason the K2 is lower weight than other MBTs, it's because they skimped on armor.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There's a reason the K2 is lower weight than other MBTs, it's because they skimped on armor.
          Actually, K2 has 15% less weight than M1 or L2 thanks to its low turret profile and space saved due to the implementation of the autoloader. Also, Twardies in Ukraine has proven that ERAs can in fact withstand Kornets from the side.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No it's because it's a very modular design. Ones currently used by Korean army go with lighter armor scheme but the export ones will all have more armor.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Absolute superiority.
        I do have to say, reading posts like this always gets a chucke from me
        by default
        I was actually pleasantly surprised by the autoloader, given the french "roots" of it. Its hard to sell it as a major advantage before going towards the 130/140mm ammo, but there were no malfunctions or issues with having it instead of a loader, before dealing with the crew-side.
        , but more accurate
        Nope, give or take the same accuracy of the cannon and the FCS as a whole. Especially with the 3rd gen thermals coming in the latest batches, which will bring it up to A7V standard. The biggest difference was the target-tracker, which is quite nifty. Not a game-changer, but something that could definitely be of assistance
        protection per kilogram
        The K2 certainly differs from the A7 in the protection concept, both in good and bad ways. You'll end up pushing 60+ tons before reaching the levels of the german vehicle with regards to azimuth and elevation, but its definitely something that would be possible even on the 6-wheel chassis. Pro-tip: All the pictures of up-armored K2's are that way just to level the playing field.
        integration for export versions
        Throphy integration was offered by both contenders, only difference was that KNDS had already integrated it, Hyundai will have to do all the work that KNDS has already done.
        >In a live fire demonstration supervised by the Norwegian military, it managed to hit all targets while the Leopard missed a few shots.
        I've always wondered where this rumour started, best i've been able to track down so far was some tabloid-esqe SK newspaper. In reality, both teams had misses (especially since they were shooting training ammo out to extended distances), but extra funny because all shootings were conducted without the other contender present, ie unable to observe anything. Even Lee felt it necessary to tell us that this was likely just some SK bloggers feverdream.
        t.test member

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >t. paid shill larping as an insider
          Did you deliberately omit the part where one of the two Leos that were presented by Germany went out of service so it reluctantly had to keep going with just one of the vehicles until the end of the evaluation because they couldn't find any spares? I'm deeply disappointed by your bait, Anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Did you deliberately omit the part where one of the two Leos that were presented by Germany went out of service so it reluctantly had to keep going with just one of the vehicles until the end of the evaluation because they couldn't find any spares? I'm deeply disappointed by your bait, Anon.
            How am i to omit something that isnt part of the post im replying to, anon?
            But i do like how you are just making up things now.
            Each nation brought two vehicles, one for firing trials and one for backup and mobility trials. One of the A7's had an error code on the gun stabilizer that came and went so they swapped them around between tests. .
            >had to keep going with just one of the vehicles until the end of the evaluation because they couldn't find any spares?
            You do know that for the last half of the trials (2 out of 4 weeks), the mobility trials and firing trials were conducted in completely different areas in Norway, right? Like a good 400km apart?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >How am i to omit something that isnt part of the post im replying to, anon?
              Of course, you are. How obvious.
              >But i do like how you are just making up things now.
              I didn't. And I'm sure you'd know what I mean if you were there too.
              >One of the A7's had an error code on the gun stabilizer that came and went so they swapped them around between tests.
              Oh, I'm sure it was more than just an error code. Also, that Leopard never got it's back up so soon, so I'm sure it is the same tank used in the other trial.

              https://i.imgur.com/xDgZK9M.jpeg

              >K2, even in its full armor kit, would weigh a little over 61 t, which doesn't even hold a candle to 2A7 or Abrams. K2PL, the latest version being proposed to Poland, is expected to weigh 61.5 t, including RWS and Hard kill such as Trophy.
              Correct, and pic related would end up around 62 tons to meet the ballistic requirements (w/Throphy but no RWS)
              Honestly a shame that i will never see it become a reality

              https://x.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1496058273488846852
              Post your source next time, homosexual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > Also, that Leopard never got it's back up so soon, so I'm sure it is the same tank used in the other trial.
                What are you even trying to say here, anon?
                All 4 vehicles were at one location for firing and mobility trials, before splitting into two.
                One evening after testing the germans swapped crews between the mobility and firing tank and drove back out next morning as planned.
                >https://x.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1496058273488846852
                Here, have some early spec-sheets from one from the display days

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >What are you even trying to say here, anon?
                >All 4 vehicles were at one location for firing and mobility trials, before splitting into two.
                >One evening after testing the germans swapped crews between the mobility and firing tank and drove back out next morning as planned.
                >a tank broken down
                >fixed overnight
                Yikes. You'd better come up with a better story if you really don't wanna get exposed by yourself. Also, the peers had to agreed on using another tank instead of the broken one, so your theory is immediately debunked. You will never be a real military official. Cope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, i'm honestly not quite sure if you are just trolling me now, or have issues understanding english?

                I will try again, real slow, just for you.
                1: Both contenders showed up with two tanks each. #1 is to be used during the firing trials. #2 is to be a backup to the firing trials, while also conducting mobility trials. These things are conducted at the same time.
                2: Both contenders thus have two crews, one selected for shooting and one selected for driving.
                3: The German firing team reported an issue with #1 during firing, and wanted to switch to #2 (the backup). They did this in the evening back at camp, ie the gunnery crew drove out next day with #2 instead of #1. Thus #1 became the mobility tank for the rest of the trials.

                I honestly dont get why this upsets you this much? Do you feel like i'm somehow attaching the K2?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You'll end up pushing 60+ tons before reaching the levels of the german vehicle with regards to azimuth and elevation, but its definitely something that would be possible even on the 6-wheel chassis. Pro-tip: All the pictures of up-armored K2's are that way just to level the playing field.
          K2, even in its full armor kit, would weigh a little over 61 t, which doesn't even hold a candle to 2A7 or Abrams. K2PL, the latest version being proposed to Poland, is expected to weigh 61.5 t, including RWS and Hard kill such as Trophy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >K2, even in its full armor kit, would weigh a little over 61 t, which doesn't even hold a candle to 2A7 or Abrams. K2PL, the latest version being proposed to Poland, is expected to weigh 61.5 t, including RWS and Hard kill such as Trophy.
            Correct, and pic related would end up around 62 tons to meet the ballistic requirements (w/Throphy but no RWS)
            Honestly a shame that i will never see it become a reality

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >pic related would end up around 62 tons to meet the ballistic requirements (w/Throphy but no RWS)
              ?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/qRNMnet.jpeg

              >How am i to omit something that isnt part of the post im replying to, anon?
              Of course, you are. How obvious.
              >But i do like how you are just making up things now.
              I didn't. And I'm sure you'd know what I mean if you were there too.
              >One of the A7's had an error code on the gun stabilizer that came and went so they swapped them around between tests.
              Oh, I'm sure it was more than just an error code. Also, that Leopard never got it's back up so soon, so I'm sure it is the same tank used in the other trial.
              [...]
              https://x.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1496058273488846852
              Post your source next time, homosexual.

              >pic related would end up around 62 tons to meet the ballistic requirements
              What did he mean by this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the configuration and weight changed between glossy spec sheet in 2021 and final spec-negotiations in late 2022
                Its not even the same picture as shown 3 months later anon, and even that one misses the mark

                https://i.imgur.com/OZP6IHF.jpeg

                > Also, that Leopard never got it's back up so soon, so I'm sure it is the same tank used in the other trial.
                What are you even trying to say here, anon?
                All 4 vehicles were at one location for firing and mobility trials, before splitting into two.
                One evening after testing the germans swapped crews between the mobility and firing tank and drove back out next morning as planned.
                >https://x.com/ronkainen7k15/status/1496058273488846852
                Here, have some early spec-sheets from one from the display days

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >better protection per kilogram
        Very interesting way of saying it has worse protection.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Absolute superiority.
        >autoloader by default

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >autoloader
          >bad
          Yeah, that's just a carousel thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Who fcks compares a Porsche with a Kia?

        If Autoloader was something superior then most of the Western counterparts to Eastern variants would be inferior while the Opposite here is the Issue.

        K2 is still using German Engine aswell Transmission, Gun is a license from Rheinmetall.

        >Norway has choosen Leopard 2A7 instead of K2 guess why the Picture explains many aspects of it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Norway has choosen Leopard 2A7 instead of K2 guess why the Picture explains many aspects of it.

          It was luckily a bit more nuanced than "autoloader le bad".
          Stuff like the autoloader did not factor in to the K2 being recommended (when both contenders meeting the technical requirements, price came into the picture), or the end result of the A7 being chosen (politics and logistics coming into play).

          Had the initial project scope of 84 tanks not been reduced to 72 (and then further down to 54), there would have been easier to go with a new system like the K2. But as it stands with 54 MBT's its almost a 1-to-1 with our Leopard-based support vehicles, which makes the logistics of running two different systems quite problematic for a relatively small military.

          >Gun is a license from Rheinmetall.
          No, the CN08 is developed and owned by WIA. The whole reason for its development was to get free from the CN03, which is basically a licenced version of the M256 with a shitload of ITAR issues.
          The CN08 is quite different from the Rh120 L44/L55 with regards to recoil management, recuperators, productuction process , external dimensions, muzzle reference system and all that. They share roughly the same performance spec tho (EFC, design pressures, 120mm ICD/STANAG and all that)
          One could probably make the argument that they used the M256 as inspiration (quite a lot of similar design choices) and in that way copied the Rh120, but the M256 and Rh120 share quite little outside of barrel and chamber.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >K2 is still using German Engine aswell Transmission
          The engine has always been Korean except for the initially produced version. Even the K2s exported to Poland are only equipped with DV27K+Renk transmission.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The gap between a K2 vs a Leopard 2 is larger than the gap between a Leopard 2 and a T72, the K2 is considered the only 4th gen MBT, the K3 will be the only 5th gen MBT and will be operational before any other nation can produce a 4th gen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Twice the cost for inferior performance.

      https://i.imgur.com/KZ10YjI.jpeg

      Absolute superiority.
      >autoloader by default
      >120mm, but more accurate
      >better protection per kilogram
      >Trophy integration for export versions
      In a live fire demonstration supervised by the Norwegian military, it managed to hit all targets while the Leopard missed a few shots.

      >autoloader by default
      So inferior to a human loader by default.

      >120mm, but an inferoir knock-off
      FTFY

      >worse protection
      FTFY

      >tried to integrate Trophy, result inferioi to Leopard 2 Trophy integration
      FTFY

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >westerners, once again, discover that history did indeed not end
      got to admit, the cope about this being some anomaly and how everything can just go back to how they were is really funny. koreans taking jabs at western moronation is just icing on the cake

      this new world war is going to be, once again, about hard fisted dictatorships vs the civilized world

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both are garbage like all non-American tanks. But at least the asiatics can produce more than one tank a year so there's that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Who produces 1 tank per year?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't they have a delivery backlog right now?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So why are Koreans afraid to send equipment to actual war?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The majority of the 155mm shells used in the meme counteroffensive were in fact from Korea as confirmed by multiple sources.
      >https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/11/eu-predictably-admits-it-wont-hit-artillery-shell-pledge-for-ukraine/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        shells =/= equipment, almost all 155mm shells are the same, while Korean equipment is different from German or American

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Sullivan laid out options. South Korea had massive quantities of the U.S.-provided munitions, but its laws prohibited sending weapons to war zones. The Pentagon calculated that about 330,000 155mm shells could be transferred by air and sea within 41 days if Seoul could be persuaded.

          >Senior administration officials had been speaking with counterparts in Seoul, who were receptive as long as the provision was indirect. The shells began to flow at the beginning of the year, eventually making South Korea a larger supplier of artillery ammunition for Ukraine than all European nations combined.

          >The more immediate alternative would entail tapping the U.S. military’s arsenal of 155mm shells that, unlike the South Korean variant, were packed with cluster munitions. The Pentagon had thousands of them, gathering dust for decades. But Secretary of State Antony Blinken balked.
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

          >eventually making South Korea a larger supplier of artillery ammunition for Ukraine than all European nations combined.
          >tfw you have to travel halfway round the world to beg for some surplus shells
          The absolute state of Europa.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The Pentagon had thousands of them, gathering dust for decades. But Secretary of State Antony Blinken balked.
            4 million actually

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >330,000

            Three whole months on the low end of shells.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >The absolute state of Europa.
            Friendly reminder there are actual people on this board who think NATO wouldn't have folded within a year if the Cold War had gone hot. Even unmotivated Poles and Czechs would easily roll over all those Euros. Only American units were worth anything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because they just want to make money like Israel, and they don't want to have drawbacks like souring relations with Russia.

      Europeans buying Korean or Israeli gear are moronic because both these countries don't allow the redistribution of that gear to Ukraine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >both these countries don't allow the redistribution of that gear to Ukraine.
        But Krab is already in Ukraine though? Isn't the chassis made by Korea?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Isn't the chassis made by Korea?
          No.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Have you thought that maybe they don't plan to actually send it to Ukraine? All those shiny new toys are there to replace stuff that already made it to Ukraine in the first place.

        >both these countries don't allow the redistribution of that gear to Ukraine.
        But Krab is already in Ukraine though? Isn't the chassis made by Korea?

        Krab is a Polish vehicle manufactured in Poland.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Krab is a Polish vehicle manufactured in Poland.
          Only the turret. It actually needed a clearance from the Korean government in order to hand them over to Ukraine.
          https://www.reuters.com/world/seoul-approved-polands-export-howitzers-with-skorean-parts-ukraine-official-says-2023-03-08/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Have you thought that maybe they don't plan to actually send it to Ukraine?
          limiting your ability to do so is still idiotic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Escalation with China but there are hidden ways

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doubt

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looks like old soviet shit

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    asiatic shit

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Romania of all countries suddenly need a shitload of MIC product in a short time?!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i'm sure russia doesn't have the most intricate codes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about and how do these codes correlate with Romania which doesn't even border russia.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you don't think the russian homosexuals would love to make romania bessarabia again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      After putin finishes with moldova the republic of we'll get invaded or switch side at the smallest threat of invasion and we'll have to shoo away the americans and the frogs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes yes. just like invading ukraine was definitely going to scare away new members from joining those filthy nafo chuds. Am I right zizter?

        only thing your ape rage is achieving is consolidating everybodies hatred for you and banding together against a common enemy to defeat you and then wipe you out. Puccia is a imperial remnant that has been left from the euros imperial past and has no place in todays world

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Man these new Russian engines are insane

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's cool how Korea went from being a sweatshop labor country for first world countries from the 60's-2000's then suddenly through sheer determination became a economical powerhouse with competing car brands that keep up with trends, leading television technology beating out the Japs & capability of arming half the world in tanks faster than any singular European country ever could. I still hate their idol pop music.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >economical powerhouse with competing car brands
      They really only have one car brand. Kia and Hyundai are the same company.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >54 self-propelled howitzers on tracks (3 systems x 18 155 mm howitzers + ammunition + logistical support).
    Why not self-propelled howitzers on wheels?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So um….question. Has Korea ever fulfilled a large-scale arms order?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So um….question. Has Korea ever fulfilled a large-scale arms order?
      Yeah, with their own army.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The contract with Bolan is proceeding along nicely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are on a good path to complete the Polish contract on time. Almost 1/3 of ordered 180 k2GF has been already delivered and they meet the declared timeframes.The chunmoo order is also proceeding nicely.
      >t. pole

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Korea to provide more tanks to Poland than Germany? Ahahahah

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >autoloader bad
    Tank fudd sure goes hard

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Korean tank
    >Romanian build quality
    Holy shit I can't think of a worse pairing.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are krauts so butthurt about people not worshipping their products? it's just sad tbh

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >With Romania, the free world begins on the eastern flank

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine buying asiatictroony korea shit,who is already extinct.

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