“The King of Battle, The Goddess of war”. All battles are based around positioning more artillery, artillery killed more in WWII then anything else. “precision weapons, air power” Modern AA and gear fear prevents the wide spread usage of air power in a near peer conflict.
Much like a fire fight, Wars are won by whoever fires the most artillery. I am not saying that the Ukraine can’t still win this war and take Crimea in spring as planned (they will). But you cannot win a war without The king of battle. Heard somewhere that the US military was digging deep, and giving the Ukraine a large shipment of almost 1 million 155 rounds and about 100 Paladin. This alone will win the war.
Nafo gay. There will be no more western aid, they have depleted there stocks.
You can't predict the future, but if the full might of American jets, drones, missiles, and tanks were unleashed on Ukraine, it would be hell on Earth for combatants and civilians alike
The US military is holding itself back from this conflict for the sake of peace, but Washington is trying to start another forever war
They have not even awoken the dragon, and Lord willing there will be a peace treaty before that happens
>dragon
you mean wall lizard
The only way for air to be relevant again is if we started giving them F35's. Then the gear fear is gone, because then you can attack with impunity.
"Artillery knows neither friend nor foe, only worthwhile targets"
No source.
The US doesn't give a fuck about artillery, and this is a mistake. COIN has once again fucked us.
OP is a fag. Post your favorite self-propelled artillery piece or pieces. For me it is anything World War II related. Gonna start with the M7 Priest
This fella. Remove German.
Great choice anon. I love the halftrack modifications
Not an artillery piece but the related T28E1 was fucking hot. Look at this slutty moron, she's not even wearing a skirt.
The German Hummel could carry 18 rounds on board and had a max range of over 13km, providing the Wehrmacht much needed fire support during battles in the east
STUG LYFE
We need more m777. I don't know why the Army is so fucking stupid and doesn't just keep M198 on hand mothballed. Their was literally nothing wrong with them. I fully believe that the generals care more about lining MIC contractors then actual readiness.
counter-battery fire makes those worthless
>doesn't just keep M198 on hand mothballed. Their was literally nothing wrong with them
M198 is like 80% heavier.
M198 takes three times as long to emplace
M198 takes five times as long to displace
M198 has 20% less terrain trafficablity
M198 can only be carried one at a time by a C-130 (compared to two for M777)
M198 needs 9 crew vs 5 for M777.
Finally the M777 is just better platform to upgrade. A2 is the standard now with the M777ER variant possible. There has been a long discussion about replacing it but nothing has happened so far.
so give em away.
What, give the M198 away or...? Because I don't even know if the US has any M198's left. I think they gave a fair few to Iraq.
Leopard spg for Ukraine please
>All battles are based around positioning more artillery
wrong.
repositioning your arty takes too long when maneuvering.
enemy will have broke through already.
>slavs are too retarded to use aircraft so everybody is
sead is literally the hardest role.
besides special elite-squadrons within USAF, who else can do it?
Israel, Germany, UK, France.
>Germany
Not sure about that. Replace them with South Korea or Japan maybe.
They demonstrated that extensively over Yugoslavia. Add Italy to the list, by the way.
>extensively
»NATO reportedly fired 743 HARMs during the course of the 78-day campaign, but could confirm the destruction of only 3 of the original 25 SA-6 batteries»
Considering Tornados were stuck on ancient AGM-88B, I don't think Germany or Italy got those.
Also I don't see them having any decent EW.
BW fired 1/3 of all HARMs during OAF.
SEAD doesn’t mean that you have to necessarily destroy the enemy AD, you just need to suppress it. Which NATO successfully did.
Italy did. very well over Libya.
It’s not about what you see anybody do but rather who has demonstrated capabilities. Which both Germany and Italy have, as opposed to Japan or SK.
OAF isn't seen as successful SEAD.
Luftwaffe airmen complained a lot about their shitty fighters with no GPS.
NATO planes operated freely over both Yugoslavia and Kosovo with minimal losses. Which is what matters.
What airmen complain about doesn’t change that fact and has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
it's hard to know who exactly NATO is.
Luftwaffe airmen at least were jealous about USAF capabilities.
Kosovo is no longer Serbia, Ghadaffi got fucked with a knife, Israel is bombing Syria and Ukraine will never be Russia. Which means, list above has demonstrated the ability to SEAD, while the rest of the world has not.
Air power (and navy) is what decided WW2
Artillery is king only when air is suppressed
>artillery killed more in WWII then anything else.
That was mortars
>I can’t SEAD!
>artillery killed more in WWII then anything else
how did artillery kill those 58% Allied civilians?