The idiot mark/idiot scratch

How common are they on used 1911s and how easy is it to accidentally make one? I've never owned a 1911 but the cleaning process has always looked a little daunting, especially because of what you can frick up.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasted.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shit, just wasted digits. sorry about that.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based wasted idiot digits
    but I am considering buying my first 1911 and am also curious about this

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The cleaning process looked daunting

    You have never owned a pistol have you? Or a rifle? Maybe a shotgun? Christ dude. How much more simple do you want your handgun? Go buy a makarov.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ideally all handguns should be Hi-Power or at least Glock simple to take apart

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day. Like for real. No kidding.

        Having to pull the trigger in order to take apart a Glock is an inherent flaw.

        Go back to muskets, and make it autoload if you want something so simple. have a nice day Black person homosexual

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why wouldn't you spend 10 minutes looking it up? this is a very well known occurrence and you can find tons of videos and forum posts about it online

          this was the first video I was recommended after searching "idiot scratch" on google

          >anon is too moronic to lock the slide back and look in the chamber
          nah you're the one who should kill themselves

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Having to pull the trigger in order to take apart a Glock is an inherent flaw.
          No that's a bit moronic, I agree
          I meant the rest of the operation being simple

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >autoload

          anyone who uses this term instead of automatic should immediately be disregarded as a moron.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seconded

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Automatic

            >Autoloading

            >Belt fed automatic

            Autoloading implies, both from a magazine, and a closed bolt. Kys.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Autoloading implies nothing other than your fear of automatic cycling being misconstrued with automatic firing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Having to pull the trigger in order to take apart a Glock is an inherent flaw.
          How much of a monkey brained Black person are you that you think this is enough of a problem to even bother considering?
          >drop magazine
          >rack slide
          >pull trigger
          >pull off slide
          Wow so fricking complicated. If you're so fricking stupid that you get these out of order hopefully you're pointing the gun at your fricking forehead when you do it you mongoloid homosexual. Go figure a jak poster is a subhuman.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post guns.

            I daily a 92 series. Frick off.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I daily a 92 series
              No wonder you're such a fricking homosexual.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Once again, post guns.

                I'm convinced you don't own any pistols.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Blow me, you're a fricking moron.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Posts his dad's Glock in 40 s&w

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession

                The amount of guys who have shot themselves or others while cleaning says otherwise. Yes they are stupid for doing so, but the design is stupid as well.

                Honestly they probably would've found some other way to shoot themselves. If you can't figure out a glock you shouldn't be around firearms in any capacity.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe Glock sucker

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That compact hammer is kinda sexy

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is, but honestly I don’t think hammer snag is an issue with the 92 hammer design. Both for the stock and elite skeleton hammer

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't like the safety on the slide, I found that gets caught on shit more than the hammer. So I picked up a pt92, really like it. Just wish it had a retention loop.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate safeties on the frame for DA/SA guns, mine is a dewienerer only

                Draw and pull the trigger, don’t need no safety with a double action trigger

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is why I prefer revolvers, and own a makarov lol. I almost got my hands on a colt double eagle. Wish I had

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I daily a 92 series
                No wonder you're such a fricking homosexual.

                >If you don't have a Glock, Beretta, and 1911 in your collection, you're a homosexual no matter if you hate all three.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The amount of guys who have shot themselves or others while cleaning says otherwise. Yes they are stupid for doing so, but the design is stupid as well.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The ideal service gun is pretty idiot proof
            The Mosin and the Glock fail this requirement

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's right. This isn't a problem at all. It's an idiot filter if anything.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I have to remove a barrel bushing and line up a link
        >I'M GOING INSANE!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Striker fired guns disassemble without tools in 10 seconds. The AR you pop two pins with your fingers and remove the bolt. So yeah, in comparison a 1911 is advanced calculus.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just don't be a dumb ape fisted Black person and it's easy. The 1911 is only marginally more complicated to field strip than modern designs and can still be done without any tools unless you have some sort of bull barrel meme shit.

    I have never idiot marked either of my 1911s simply by paying attention to what I'm doing, having non-disabled hands, and applying myself even a little bit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have just accepted that all of my guns will have at least one scratch caused by me being a moron
      An owner's mark if you will

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well then don't worry about it. The mark is purely aesthetic and just outs you as a physically disabled animal with no dex.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All guns are going to undergo wear and tear over time. A scratch or two is nothing. You dent a piece, though? That's on you, man. Gotta be careful with your gat.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally a natural wear mark.
    Pivoting the lever down makes it easier to grip and remove. Nothing idiot about that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing idiot about that.
      The idiot part comes when you get a scratch on your finish because you were too stupid to remove the pin without it scraping across the gun. Pivoting the lever down makes sense. Allowing it to touch the frame while doing so suggests hamfisted carelessness.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Caring about the finish is stupid.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Destroying your gun's finish for no reason is stupid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's normal wear and tear.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Going down from the slide allows it to scratch the slide, going up from the trigger guard could leave a mark on the slide. I don’t care about frame “idiot marks”, if you idiot mark the slide because you thought going over the thicker part of the gun would prevent an idiot mark you should be bullied relentlessly for scraping the fricking slide.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >could leave a mark on the slide
          Frame*

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have only ever seen one idiot scratch on a 1911 slide

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve seen it a few times, it’s absolutely abhorrent.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're common enough they have a name, but honestly I don't see them all that often. I used to go to a lot of gun shows in years past and I rarely saw them, it wasn't until relatively recently that I heard the expression online.

    It's true a glock is easier to field strip than a 1911 but it's not like the 1911 is difficult, it's just a bit awkward to explain the process to a complete newbie. But that's true for all sorts of things.

    >especially because of what you can frick up.
    It shouldn't be daunting, it's not difficult, and you have to frick up pretty bad to get the idiot scratch.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post guns.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lovely digits but I bought my first 1911 with express intent of just shooting/beating the frick out of it. So this is a non issue for me. I'll never sell it so it's mine to frick around with as I please. Some maintenance ofc but it rides around in kydex holsters and just gets all around wear. My second 1911 doesn't have the mark because I take a little more care of it.

    So. Comes down to how much I care about the particular pistol.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both my 1911s are pristine after disassembling dozens of times.
    But I will grant the slide release design is inherently terrible. I can't tell you how many fricking times it gets stuck on reassembly. I know, skill issue right?
    No frick you, it's a shitty design flaw and you're a luddite

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But I will grant the slide release design is inherently terrible. I can't tell you how many fricking times it gets stuck on reassembly. I know, skill issue right?
      >No frick you, it's a shitty design flaw and you're a luddite
      It got fixed in the Hi-Power but it's also a lot flimsier in that gun

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The hi power is still the wonder 9 in my book. Can't find one for a decent price otherwise I'd have one. Everyone wants 900$ minimum because the fricking Canadians still use em as a service pistol or some shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought they decommissioned them and chopped them all up like good litte obedient leafs?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            From my understanding, very few people outright turned theirs in. They were forced. Buddy of mine is in prison I'm pretty sure. Has not sent me a message in a hot minute. He was holding out. He had to call the police and inform them anytime he went to the range, or intended to transport his guns whatsoever. The military however was able to sell a bunch of surplus to china I'm pretty sure. Considering Canada's unique trade laws.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I legitimately don't know if you're trolling or not. So many leafs are fricking moronic, and the rest are cowards for not standing up for their rights.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have never liked the Hi-Power. No real idea why but I think it's the width and angle of the grip.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that you know about it, OP, it's pretty easy to avoid. You just push the slide stop up and in at the same time once you're sure it'll go in the hole. 1911s are pretty easy to take care of, in general. I don't get why people are so scared of it. The only extra steps are turning the bushing, taking out the spring plug, and lining up the barrel link, which adds only a couple of seconds. Wipe oil in the usual spots once the gun is field stripped. EZfukkenPZ

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just cut up an old playing card that slides in there when puting it back together. They sell them online too but it’s easy to copy the design and make your own so I did.

    Dan Wesson is looking minty.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If your firearm doesn't have dings and scratches you do not train enough.
    Wasted

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >idiot mark
    It happens
    Unfortunately my 1911 was a display model so someone else got to scratch it before me
    :'(

    >1911 disassembly looks daunting
    It may seem so at first but its really not hard to take apart or put back together and the more you do it the easier it gets.
    The Beretta 92 is also a pistol that looks hard due to all the pins and springs but in reality its not.
    Of course, this is all in the comfort of home, if you were out in a field somewhere and completely broke it down to small parts prepare to get fricked.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does this even happen? The slide stop goes in straight, there's no reason to twist it.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I idiot scratched my Dan Wesson when I was piss drunk and don't even remember it happening. For what it's worth I've never done it sober, but the 1911 is a piece of shit to disassemble anyways.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can happen. It sucks and is annoying but I don’t consider it the end of the world. This was the first non 22 gun I bought. No intention of selling it and I shoot it frequently. When I first got it the detent spring for the lever was extremely stiff and I tried forcing the lever up against the spring, instead of pushing past the detent it popped up and rode over the slide. And then recently even though the detent spring is well worn I was cleaning it while half drunk and managed to do it again. So yeah… if you go to out that back on and it’s super stiff take something that won’t scratch and work the detent pin a few times to soften the spring…. I’ve thought about polishing the marks off, but again I shoot this about every other week, it’s a nice 1911, I like it, but it’s not a “o god it cost a kidney and is collectible or super rare 1911” so I’m okay with calling the marks charector and a reminder to watch out on my newer more expensive guns…. If your curious I got this one because I shot one at a rental range and really liked it so I looked to match the model.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Extremely common and basically only a few people care. Hipowers and any slide stop based disassembly are prone to this as you insert the front then adjust to finish. It's really just a mark to show you either do or do not think ahead and lack spatial reasoning

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