>Forgetting the reddit frog is pro Trump >All the pro Trump shills are vatniks >Trying to pretend the reddit frog is done by anything but vatniks
You tried vatnik.
>we
True Americans who remember our real enemies and are much obliged to the Ukies for slaughtering them with our equipment, proving that even in the hands of a buncha Slavs our shit is better. If you're an American that supports Russia in this you and your family should be shot over a mass grave.
Why would you put them in a grave? In medieval times people were put in cages for the public to observe until they died from hunger or thirst, and then some.
Based. Russia has been our enemy for the past generation and the fact we're able to kill them in droves without risking a single American life is pure euphoria.
This, but unironically. The U.S. alone has 400 HIMARS. Why are we sending so few the Russians can learn to conterbattery them, when we could send 150-200 and watch Ukraine absolutely decimate the vatnigs before they have even an inkling of an idea how to handle HIMARS?
>Why are we sending so few
Logistics and training. Specifically training. Or are you implying that the US military bothered to have a Cyrillic language update for their HIMARS interfaces?
I doubt training is the issue. They can whip people up for this system in only a couple weeks. Straight bodies perhaps, but I doubt the training itself is an issue.
>They can whip people up for this system in only a couple weeks
I only know stories from people who lived in the former GDR, but over there they didn't learn English in school - only Russian. What makes you think Ukrainians have enough English education to be able to operate a complex military system? Probably not a whole bunch. And those are the more likely to be sent to train.
Translators aren’t some new concept. Documents have undoubtedly already been converted, and anything else doesn’t matter as they’ll learn what things are hands on (on top of label makers having existed for a hot minute). We’re talking about an artillery system here, not fighter jets.
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>Translators aren’t some new concept
If seconds count? Suuure.
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>because you’re going to be sitting there trying to read shit
Suuuurr
that was theorized, but the Russians already voluntarily declared the "operational pause" is over and tried to ram head-first into a bunch of fortifications without as much artillery support, so it's unlikely
yes, they don't have any cityfighting ability with no NVG/optics/support vehicles and their air force can't touch Soviet air defenses so the rest of the "modernization" is pointless, Soviet and then Russian invasions always go artillery barrel-end first and only after every civilian they can murder is dead and gone do they ever step foot in the contested space
it turns out that requires a lot of massive improvised or stolen forward ammunition depots, and Russian C&C do not know how to distribute or just-in-time ammo, so what happens when those detonate?
>oviet and then Russian invasions always go artillery barrel-end first and only after every civilian they can murder is dead and gone do they ever step foot in the contested space
Exception being the battle of Berlin since Stalin just wanted the city as soon as possible, so they threw tank units into a cityfight.
8 artillery systems and regular access to the most advanced positioning and optical satellite network on the planet, don't discount the underlying achievement that is driving the impact
if HIMARS was just painting random artillery like a counter-battery unit, it wouldn't really be doing much at all, just a vastly more capable version of what Ukraine already has
ukraine has a an assload of other types of artillery, and has had most of it since the start of the war, and is receiving more all the time...8 launchers is like 0.5% of their artillery forces. this is just propaganda, not reality
Ammo depots and barracks/command posts
Radars and comms
Anti air rockets
MRLS and SPGs
I believe that’s the order of their priorities based on strikes confirmed to HIMARS
As they get more I’m pretty sure they’ll be used more defensively to target advancing armor and convoys
The dumbasses were going around stating they fired 60,000 rounds a day like that was a good thing. Who the frick needs to burn through their barrels with that many rounds unless you're not hitting shit.
Bingo. Can't be arsed to find it right now, but recently even some pro-ruskie sources were getting hissy about barrels. Especially those produced post-2014 (i.e. post-sanctions on good steel) are dogshit an break instantly
Makes sense to me, logistical issues mean that the only way to get the volume of fire they had before is to spend a few days stockpiling shells at the guns
It wasn't just them. The Russians ran out of ammo, Ukraine got more supplies and intel and M777, Krab or PZH are blowing up stuff left and right as well.
The Himars is great, but by now I see even mortar rounds or Tochkas get attributed to them.
44kg per 152mm Soviet artillery shell and they don't just shoot one at a time.
That is a lot of tonnage to transport to the battlefield for even a small engagement.
So you load up a truck with artillery rounds and drive it from its storage location in Russia to the train station, put it on a train, train drives, unload it off a train, put it on a truck and then drive it to the battlefield where it goes to a field ammo depot or the battery itself.
They have either destroyed or forced to move every ammo depo ~70km from the frontline. State of the art HATO satellite recon + pinpoint precise, fast guided missiles.
The really fun fact they'll find is that the smaller 90kg warhead rocket can stretch out in the 90-100km range and if you're just asking it to hit green boxes in the middle of a town or civilian warehouse, then its really going to have much the same effect as the bigger boop warheads. The alternative is you're stocking more shells near your static, field peices and kind of hoping they're well enough hidden to avoid suffering the same fate, but run the risk that a stray 155 counter-battery shell might doink them and well, now you have a very large hole, no ammo and probably dead.
But if they're asking logistics, particularly Russian road logistics to run ammo all the way in on trucks on a 200km round trip I just see things grinding to a rapid halt under their current doctrine of blow shit up and move into the hole left after, yeah that's just not going to work
ukraine has been hitting ammo dumps since the war began, they have thousands of artillery systems...himars is not a wunderwaffe, it's a propaganda tool, you are being tricked again
wew exactly how I thought a guy like him would look like. even more pathetic than the us chink that spammed the wagner/fog cope for a while before getting exposed
>I think it's wonderful that the military has a special program for the mentally impaired.
Form all the stories i gather, it seems like it other way. Normal people among mentally impaired.
Unless they get gangraped or at least molested by a woman I doubt this book would be worth anyone’s time. Is well-rated on Amazon though, maybe that is how Russia pays him, buys his book and leaves good reviews.
The 400 trucks? Maybe.
But the fuel? If they had that available their BTGs wouldn't have stalled. Last I checked lack of fuel was the reason for the Convoy of Kyiv stalling. >them forgetting to bring food was then the reason why it got abandoned
>'We didn't lose! It was part of the plan! And if it wasn't part of the plan then it was the fault of the [enemy]! They cheated!'
These people live in a different world
this reminds me of the great war
where they focused on stockpiling a certain number of shells per kilometer of front per day of an offensive
seems like an antiquated thing? if you have a promising target why not fire as soon as possible
>seems like an antiquated thing? if you have a promising target why not fire as soon as possible
ww1 era artillery lack the precision and respond time to react to target of opportunity.
Russia artillery doctrine seems to be stuck with hundred year tactic.
>seems like an antiquated thing? if you have a promising target why not fire as soon as possible
ww1 era artillery lack the precision and respond time to react to target of opportunity.
Russia artillery doctrine seems to be stuck with hundred year tactic.
The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed, so it's not a bad force to try and emulate.
Not sure if the Russians are up to the standard of Feuerwaltz yet.
They finally collapsed after 4 years of war, starvation from the British blockade and their own farmer being conscripted, and the entry of American material and manpower into the war and the beginning of American offensives. Also mutinies on the home front didn’t help, especially the naval one which pretty much ended any chance of the blockade being lifted, which was already slim. They were fricked homie, but they fought really fricking well to the end
British blockade cut off a lot of important imports, and they weren't able to substitute enough. All their colonies were basically gone the day the war started due to the Royal Navy, while Britain and France had half the planet's resources under their thumb.
American bankers lent a shitton of money to the British and French to prop them up, then pressured their government to outright intervene.
Jews in Germany staged a bunch of uprisings (Spartacists, Bavarian Socialist Republic, etc).
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans weren't incompetent, but they weren't really great allies either, and the western front was basically solo Germany vs Britain, France, the USA, Belgium, and their colonial forces.
But it's mostly the blockade, it destroyed their economy over time and they just couldn't sustain the war effort as a result. You can also see the effectiveness of their military in a more even fight by the eastern front where they basically steamrolled the Russian Empire.
>Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans weren't incompetent, but they weren't really great allies either,
Austria-Hungary got assfricked for the sole reason that just before the war, an Austrian homosexual in charge of intelligence got blackmailed by Russian intelligence into switching sides, compromising all Austrian spies in Russia and Serbia, giving completely inaccurate intel to Austrian command and giving away all Austrian information and battle plans. He's the sole reason the famed Austrian fell easily in Galicia and Austrian troops got countered hard in Serbia.
>No traitor in history has ever surpassed Redl. >look him up
>Redl was subsequently confronted in his apartment by a party of military officers. In the course of a brief interrogation he admitted selling military intelligence to a foreign power. Field Marshal Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf, the Austro-Hungarian Army's Chief of Staff, ordered that Colonel Redl was to be left alone with a loaded revolver. Redl shot himself in the early morning of 25 May 1913.
>Redl's death was regretted both by the Emperor Franz Josef, who would have preferred that the colonel avoided dying in mortal sin, and by Austrian Intelligence, which would have preferred to interrogate him on the full extent of his disclosures to the Russians.
Firstly, holy frick what a power move by von Hötzendorf, secondly the note about Josef is a rare moment of wikipedia kino where even a single line speaks volumes about the guy's character and makes me want to know more.
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>would have preferred that the colonel avoided dying in mortal sin
Now he's spending the rest of eternity in hell. Good for him.
They were definitely the most advanced doctrinally and tactically, essentially laying the groundwork for what would later morph into the "Blitzkrieg" and even later into modern warfare. They lost because in true german fashion they made enemies with everyone and the RN turned the north sea into Entente Lake, so the economy couldn't keep up
>The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed,
The spent 4 years stuck in trenches achieving nothing and were then defeated by the fricking French
"Most competent army" my fricking arse
The French, the British and the Americans. While also defeating Russians while also propping up Austria-HUngary who was getting bled to death by fricking Italy.
The Kaiserschlacht also failed before Americans arrived in meaningful numbers.
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The Kaiserschlacht was beaten by the British and French. 1/4 of the British Armies on the Western Front were smashed, good co-ordination of French reinforcements into the British sector prevented a serious German breakthrough, the krauts tried again on multiple sectors for the next 3 months and achieved basically nothing while loing their entire manpower advantage over the battered British and French, along with what was left of their strategic artillery reserve. After that they were utterly fricked, the Americans helped and sped up the collapse but the German Army was fricked when they failed to take Villers-Brettoneux, Amiens and Roulers.
What actually happened? Did they run out of ammunition? The state of Germany in these final weeks is very nebulous.
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>Did they run out of ammunition?
And food, and soldiers.
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They were being routed on every front from Italy, to the Balkans, to the Levant, to the West while their navy was mutinying and years of doing nothing.
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The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed, so it's not a bad force to try and emulate.
Not sure if the Russians are up to the standard of Feuerwaltz yet.
I disagree I’m inclined to think the French army circa 1802-1812 was probably the best. A highly experienced and well led force with massive reserves of manpower which managed to defeat the combined armies of Europe’s strongest powers multiple times. That or maybe the armies of the late Roman Republic and early Roman Empire. >Army of soldiers who serve for 20 years before they retire >Many spent a decade fighting in Gaul >All of them spent years or decades fighting in civil wars or against Roman client states or Parthia
Or just WW2 or modern US who dabs on everyone with god tier logistic >I wirr sacrifice my rife for the grory of Nippon >I vill slay any enemy of ze Reich no matter ze cost >Oh cool the ice cream ship is here it is pretty hot out
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The ice cream ship better have some fricking rocky road or we mutiny.
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The Navy needs to commission a new ice cream ship. Maybe they can repurpose an old Ticonderoga-class.
Britain only lost 2 men due to severe frostbite while it waited for Americans to fight for them. Once involved, the yanks defeated the Axis very quickly and courageously, albeit losing 10 million men. Thank you Land of the Brave.
Do you mean relative to everyone else at the time? In that case it has to be the roman army, their logistics were insane. Funnily, logistics is precisely what the russians lack.
Granted the Roman logistical system was impressive, but when you consider the way that the Mongols sidestepped that whole requirement I think you'll agree they come out on top here.
Imagine how hard they're going to lose their shit if/when they ever manage to knock 'a' system out.
It'll be like Putin's birthday with the senior conscripts using lube on the new guy in the barracks all at once
I t think it's good we remember that German Wunderwaffen weren't necessarily not great, they just generally came too late to make much use
Had germans started correctly using their jet engines a year earlier (not as bombers as a meth addict told them) the war might have been prolonged by at least several months, if they had them around the battle of brittain the consequences are unknowable
>Strike on claimed Russian command post in occupied Slobozhanshchyna, eastern Ukraine, results in large explosion. Unconfirmed reports of significant casualties.
HIMARS at work?
>they don't want to drive heavy vehicles on the bridge
Man, there goes my boner. The chances of seeing a column of T-72s doing a flip while jumping off the bridge are next to 0 now...
still not enough fires on the Russian side
we must send more artillery and rocketry
Who are we, troony?
First world countries, aka a place you're not from
What's with the reddit frog spam?
>two posts
>spam
youve never met a chink on this board have you?
>Le Reddit frog spam
I fricking can't. How can R*ssians shill be so moronic.
>Forgetting the reddit frog is pro Trump
>All the pro Trump shills are vatniks
>Trying to pretend the reddit frog is done by anything but vatniks
You tried vatnik.
how many times are you going to ask this, moron?
I will glady pay double taxes if the money goes directly towards killing vatniks
who are we, Mongol?
>we
True Americans who remember our real enemies and are much obliged to the Ukies for slaughtering them with our equipment, proving that even in the hands of a buncha Slavs our shit is better. If you're an American that supports Russia in this you and your family should be shot over a mass grave.
Why would you put them in a grave? In medieval times people were put in cages for the public to observe until they died from hunger or thirst, and then some.
Is that Dugan?
Based. Russia has been our enemy for the past generation and the fact we're able to kill them in droves without risking a single American life is pure euphoria.
This, but unironically. The U.S. alone has 400 HIMARS. Why are we sending so few the Russians can learn to conterbattery them, when we could send 150-200 and watch Ukraine absolutely decimate the vatnigs before they have even an inkling of an idea how to handle HIMARS?
>Why are we sending so few
Logistics and training. Specifically training. Or are you implying that the US military bothered to have a Cyrillic language update for their HIMARS interfaces?
I doubt training is the issue. They can whip people up for this system in only a couple weeks. Straight bodies perhaps, but I doubt the training itself is an issue.
>They can whip people up for this system in only a couple weeks
I only know stories from people who lived in the former GDR, but over there they didn't learn English in school - only Russian. What makes you think Ukrainians have enough English education to be able to operate a complex military system? Probably not a whole bunch. And those are the more likely to be sent to train.
Translators aren’t some new concept. Documents have undoubtedly already been converted, and anything else doesn’t matter as they’ll learn what things are hands on (on top of label makers having existed for a hot minute). We’re talking about an artillery system here, not fighter jets.
>Translators aren’t some new concept
If seconds count? Suuure.
>because you’re going to be sitting there trying to read shit
Suuuurr
Yes.
Like a certain anon confidently claimed like a day ago it's because most of the Russian soldiers are on vacation.
>unpaid, permanent vacation in a shallow grave
I believe it.
This. The war is going so good Putin allowed his soldiers to go to Ibiza to sunbathe before the push on Kyiv.
Hes not entirely wrong. Wagner just returned from R&R and a lot of elite RAF units are still on R&R
>1500 mile front line
>8 systems firing 2 salvos per day have defeated 90% of the russian artillery
I just don't believe it
is it possible the Russians are stockpiling ammunition for their next offensive?
that was theorized, but the Russians already voluntarily declared the "operational pause" is over and tried to ram head-first into a bunch of fortifications without as much artillery support, so it's unlikely
Hol' up. Are you telling me that the Russian army is a literal one-trick pony, and once you disable artillery barrages you cracked the game?
yes, they don't have any cityfighting ability with no NVG/optics/support vehicles and their air force can't touch Soviet air defenses so the rest of the "modernization" is pointless, Soviet and then Russian invasions always go artillery barrel-end first and only after every civilian they can murder is dead and gone do they ever step foot in the contested space
it turns out that requires a lot of massive improvised or stolen forward ammunition depots, and Russian C&C do not know how to distribute or just-in-time ammo, so what happens when those detonate?
>oviet and then Russian invasions always go artillery barrel-end first and only after every civilian they can murder is dead and gone do they ever step foot in the contested space
Exception being the battle of Berlin since Stalin just wanted the city as soon as possible, so they threw tank units into a cityfight.
Always has been.
Well, they can also send human waves I guess.
And arm them with what, 19th century breechloaders?
Looks like the T-84 might actually get its share of the glory, if Russia continues to epic fail like this. In spite of its issues, it is fast.
It's fricking faster than Russia's T-90 (40 mph vs 37).
sure, why not. anything other than "we sent them 8 artillery systems and now they've won the war"
8 artillery systems and regular access to the most advanced positioning and optical satellite network on the planet, don't discount the underlying achievement that is driving the impact
if HIMARS was just painting random artillery like a counter-battery unit, it wouldn't really be doing much at all, just a vastly more capable version of what Ukraine already has
ukraine has a an assload of other types of artillery, and has had most of it since the start of the war, and is receiving more all the time...8 launchers is like 0.5% of their artillery forces. this is just propaganda, not reality
I don't know what you're responding to, capability and quantity are not the same concept
>Better to have 2 million rotten moist nuggets than 100.000 pristine AKs with Optics and spare mags
This is your logic.
they don’t use the GMLRS as rocket artillery to saturate targets
they use it for precision strikes on high value targets
Is this the Russian double think I've been hearing so much about?
Yes everyone you don't agree with is Russian
what part of 80km range highly accurate rockets do you not understand?
That was a pro Ukrainian post dumbfrick. Holy shit the influx of pl*bbitors is killing this board
Ammo depots and barracks/command posts
Radars and comms
Anti air rockets
MRLS and SPGs
I believe that’s the order of their priorities based on strikes confirmed to HIMARS
As they get more I’m pretty sure they’ll be used more defensively to target advancing armor and convoys
My bet is on the Russian barrels being completely fricked at this point
The dumbasses were going around stating they fired 60,000 rounds a day like that was a good thing. Who the frick needs to burn through their barrels with that many rounds unless you're not hitting shit.
Bingo. Can't be arsed to find it right now, but recently even some pro-ruskie sources were getting hissy about barrels. Especially those produced post-2014 (i.e. post-sanctions on good steel) are dogshit an break instantly
https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-losing-but-moscow-will-never-admit-it-russian-soldier-says
Also, picrelated
Like it matters what they admit.
Makes sense to me, logistical issues mean that the only way to get the volume of fire they had before is to spend a few days stockpiling shells at the guns
I think they were targeting the ammo stockpiles, not the arty itself. Maybe the vatnicks got orders to conserve ammo.
It wasn't just them. The Russians ran out of ammo, Ukraine got more supplies and intel and M777, Krab or PZH are blowing up stuff left and right as well.
The Himars is great, but by now I see even mortar rounds or Tochkas get attributed to them.
44kg per 152mm Soviet artillery shell and they don't just shoot one at a time.
That is a lot of tonnage to transport to the battlefield for even a small engagement.
So you load up a truck with artillery rounds and drive it from its storage location in Russia to the train station, put it on a train, train drives, unload it off a train, put it on a truck and then drive it to the battlefield where it goes to a field ammo depot or the battery itself.
They have either destroyed or forced to move every ammo depo ~70km from the frontline. State of the art HATO satellite recon + pinpoint precise, fast guided missiles.
The really fun fact they'll find is that the smaller 90kg warhead rocket can stretch out in the 90-100km range and if you're just asking it to hit green boxes in the middle of a town or civilian warehouse, then its really going to have much the same effect as the bigger boop warheads. The alternative is you're stocking more shells near your static, field peices and kind of hoping they're well enough hidden to avoid suffering the same fate, but run the risk that a stray 155 counter-battery shell might doink them and well, now you have a very large hole, no ammo and probably dead.
But if they're asking logistics, particularly Russian road logistics to run ammo all the way in on trucks on a 200km round trip I just see things grinding to a rapid halt under their current doctrine of blow shit up and move into the hole left after, yeah that's just not going to work
Wars are won and lost on logistics. If ammo dumps are getting hit the guns simply cannot fire.
ukraine has been hitting ammo dumps since the war began, they have thousands of artillery systems...himars is not a wunderwaffe, it's a propaganda tool, you are being tricked again
can't hear you over the sound of the 1.4kt explosion
nice concern trolling
>ukraine has been hitting ammo dumps since the war began
proofs?
Those are all house fires. It's the season for it.
>pro-ukranian cope
>warlord
he has a slave phenotyoe
The skin suit is malfunctioning, Vampire 6 has been compromised. Abort! ABORT!
does he have a neurological condition?
Yeah hes moronic
Haha holy shit look at this fricking dork. Absolute loser phenotype.
wew exactly how I thought a guy like him would look like. even more pathetic than the us chink that spammed the wagner/fog cope for a while before getting exposed
Didn't this guy claim to be ex-military? Do they really let people with Tourettes into the military?
Dunno.
I think it's wonderful that the military has a special program for the mentally impaired.
>I think it's wonderful that the military has a special program for the mentally impaired.
Form all the stories i gather, it seems like it other way. Normal people among mentally impaired.
You just know the reason why he simps for Russia so hard is because he got the piss bullied out of him in the military.
Unless they get gangraped or at least molested by a woman I doubt this book would be worth anyone’s time. Is well-rated on Amazon though, maybe that is how Russia pays him, buys his book and leaves good reviews.
The 400 trucks? Maybe.
But the fuel? If they had that available their BTGs wouldn't have stalled. Last I checked lack of fuel was the reason for the Convoy of Kyiv stalling.
>them forgetting to bring food was then the reason why it got abandoned
I hate this moron like you wouldn't believe
Why hate someone doing your demoralisation job for you lmao
I dont he is my daily dose of keks and self-owns. His channel is comedy frickng gold.
I wonder what this guy will do when Russia collapses. Hopefully suicide.
>'We didn't lose! It was part of the plan! And if it wasn't part of the plan then it was the fault of the [enemy]! They cheated!'
These people live in a different world
He can't keep getting away with it
>armchair vatnik
How do you deal with these types of homosexuals? I've seen a few, do you just ignore and move on letting them spread their shit everywhere?
this reminds me of the great war
where they focused on stockpiling a certain number of shells per kilometer of front per day of an offensive
seems like an antiquated thing? if you have a promising target why not fire as soon as possible
>seems like an antiquated thing? if you have a promising target why not fire as soon as possible
ww1 era artillery lack the precision and respond time to react to target of opportunity.
Russia artillery doctrine seems to be stuck with hundred year tactic.
The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed, so it's not a bad force to try and emulate.
Not sure if the Russians are up to the standard of Feuerwaltz yet.
>The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed
Proof, source? Why they lost?
>Why they lost?
Royal Navy blockade
They finally collapsed after 4 years of war, starvation from the British blockade and their own farmer being conscripted, and the entry of American material and manpower into the war and the beginning of American offensives. Also mutinies on the home front didn’t help, especially the naval one which pretty much ended any chance of the blockade being lifted, which was already slim. They were fricked homie, but they fought really fricking well to the end
Their offensive capabilities were spent long before. They messed up the kaiserschlacht and ended up on the receiving end of the stick.
Because while the army was good, germs failed on the political level, as usual.
israeli revolution at the end of 1918
British blockade cut off a lot of important imports, and they weren't able to substitute enough. All their colonies were basically gone the day the war started due to the Royal Navy, while Britain and France had half the planet's resources under their thumb.
American bankers lent a shitton of money to the British and French to prop them up, then pressured their government to outright intervene.
Jews in Germany staged a bunch of uprisings (Spartacists, Bavarian Socialist Republic, etc).
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans weren't incompetent, but they weren't really great allies either, and the western front was basically solo Germany vs Britain, France, the USA, Belgium, and their colonial forces.
But it's mostly the blockade, it destroyed their economy over time and they just couldn't sustain the war effort as a result. You can also see the effectiveness of their military in a more even fight by the eastern front where they basically steamrolled the Russian Empire.
>Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans weren't incompetent, but they weren't really great allies either,
Austria-Hungary got assfricked for the sole reason that just before the war, an Austrian homosexual in charge of intelligence got blackmailed by Russian intelligence into switching sides, compromising all Austrian spies in Russia and Serbia, giving completely inaccurate intel to Austrian command and giving away all Austrian information and battle plans. He's the sole reason the famed Austrian fell easily in Galicia and Austrian troops got countered hard in Serbia.
* famed Austrian forts
No traitor in history has ever surpassed Redl.
>No traitor in history has ever surpassed Redl.
>look him up
>Redl was subsequently confronted in his apartment by a party of military officers. In the course of a brief interrogation he admitted selling military intelligence to a foreign power. Field Marshal Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf, the Austro-Hungarian Army's Chief of Staff, ordered that Colonel Redl was to be left alone with a loaded revolver. Redl shot himself in the early morning of 25 May 1913.
>Redl's death was regretted both by the Emperor Franz Josef, who would have preferred that the colonel avoided dying in mortal sin, and by Austrian Intelligence, which would have preferred to interrogate him on the full extent of his disclosures to the Russians.
Firstly, holy frick what a power move by von Hötzendorf, secondly the note about Josef is a rare moment of wikipedia kino where even a single line speaks volumes about the guy's character and makes me want to know more.
>would have preferred that the colonel avoided dying in mortal sin
Now he's spending the rest of eternity in hell. Good for him.
They were definitely the most advanced doctrinally and tactically, essentially laying the groundwork for what would later morph into the "Blitzkrieg" and even later into modern warfare. They lost because in true german fashion they made enemies with everyone and the RN turned the north sea into Entente Lake, so the economy couldn't keep up
Being alone on multiple front and blockade
Because germans couldnt help themself and kept pulling more and more countries into war against them.
>The Imperial German army of 1917/1918 was probably the most competent army that ever existed,
The spent 4 years stuck in trenches achieving nothing and were then defeated by the fricking French
"Most competent army" my fricking arse
The French fought so hard they lost two entire generations of men
Didn't seem to hurt them in the long run.
The French, the British and the Americans. While also defeating Russians while also propping up Austria-HUngary who was getting bled to death by fricking Italy.
Germans losts before americans arrived in meaningful number.
So the Kaiserschlacht was only a scam ?
The Kaiserschlacht also failed before Americans arrived in meaningful numbers.
The Kaiserschlacht was beaten by the British and French. 1/4 of the British Armies on the Western Front were smashed, good co-ordination of French reinforcements into the British sector prevented a serious German breakthrough, the krauts tried again on multiple sectors for the next 3 months and achieved basically nothing while loing their entire manpower advantage over the battered British and French, along with what was left of their strategic artillery reserve. After that they were utterly fricked, the Americans helped and sped up the collapse but the German Army was fricked when they failed to take Villers-Brettoneux, Amiens and Roulers.
What actually happened? Did they run out of ammunition? The state of Germany in these final weeks is very nebulous.
>Did they run out of ammunition?
And food, and soldiers.
They were being routed on every front from Italy, to the Balkans, to the Levant, to the West while their navy was mutinying and years of doing nothing.
I disagree I’m inclined to think the French army circa 1802-1812 was probably the best. A highly experienced and well led force with massive reserves of manpower which managed to defeat the combined armies of Europe’s strongest powers multiple times. That or maybe the armies of the late Roman Republic and early Roman Empire.
>Army of soldiers who serve for 20 years before they retire
>Many spent a decade fighting in Gaul
>All of them spent years or decades fighting in civil wars or against Roman client states or Parthia
Or just WW2 or modern US who dabs on everyone with god tier logistic
>I wirr sacrifice my rife for the grory of Nippon
>I vill slay any enemy of ze Reich no matter ze cost
>Oh cool the ice cream ship is here it is pretty hot out
The ice cream ship better have some fricking rocky road or we mutiny.
The Navy needs to commission a new ice cream ship. Maybe they can repurpose an old Ticonderoga-class.
Britain would have capitulated if the US hadn't joined the war. German submarines did immense damage.
Britain only lost 2 men due to severe frostbite while it waited for Americans to fight for them. Once involved, the yanks defeated the Axis very quickly and courageously, albeit losing 10 million men. Thank you Land of the Brave.
You wish kraut
he's right. name a better army.
Do you mean relative to everyone else at the time? In that case it has to be the roman army, their logistics were insane. Funnily, logistics is precisely what the russians lack.
Granted the Roman logistical system was impressive, but when you consider the way that the Mongols sidestepped that whole requirement I think you'll agree they come out on top here.
Lol Dan Carlin made the same statement, all the German haters stay mad.
The British Army was better trained, better led, and more well equipped by the end of the war.
funny how this thread is light on vatnik shilling unlike the other ua threads
Now show Kherson front which mysteriouly the Russians have started bombaring the Ukranian position there and the cities of Nikolaev and Odessa again
>Now show Kherson front which mysteriouly the Russians have started bombaring the Ukranian position there and the cities of Nikolaev and Odessa again
kherson front is down the bottom left corner of the gif. cope.
The region is cloudy so FIRMS data is very limited in the past few days.
More (alleged by russians) HIMARS shenanigans in this thread.
Imagine how hard they're going to lose their shit if/when they ever manage to knock 'a' system out.
It'll be like Putin's birthday with the senior conscripts using lube on the new guy in the barracks all at once
In the meantime, just gunna watch them fireworks
>to Lieutenant General horseradish
The name says "Khreninu V.G.", so I'm assuming the translation software went schizo.
They wouldn't shut the frick up about it here that's for sure. Like that tank WebM that keeps being posted.
I t think it's good we remember that German Wunderwaffen weren't necessarily not great, they just generally came too late to make much use
Had germans started correctly using their jet engines a year earlier (not as bombers as a meth addict told them) the war might have been prolonged by at least several months, if they had them around the battle of brittain the consequences are unknowable
That's their supply chain breaking down in real-time.
>the ghost of queev effect
Wow its fricking nothing!
Insider here, Russia is being demolished by Himars the proof is in the pudding.
>Strike on claimed Russian command post in occupied Slobozhanshchyna, eastern Ukraine, results in large explosion. Unconfirmed reports of significant casualties.
HIMARS at work?
Sorry, forgot source: https://teddit.net/r/CombatFootage/comments/w7l1j1/strike_on_claimed_russian_command_post_in/
>He said something about shelling Ukraine and I said "Dude, you have no shells!" and ran off
If HIMARS is this powerful I can't wait for HIJUPITER
Just wait till I get HI in URANUS.
what is happening on this video?
is this a PONTOONING attempt?
oh nonononoonnononononono
https://streamable.com/cnn6ku
>they don't want to drive heavy vehicles on the bridge
Man, there goes my boner. The chances of seeing a column of T-72s doing a flip while jumping off the bridge are next to 0 now...
wtf vatnikbros I thought the bridge was fine and operational??? Why would they need a pontoon bridge???
Better find that thread from yesterday.
and screencap it
Can someone post that C&C tiberian sun HIMARS?
cope
to get to the other side on their Cope-bridge
I hope the ukkies are prepared to shell them to the other side of this dimension
Meanwhile in reality.
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1550840023112716292?s=20&t=HZURIJOV-k4wjMArdKUDLA
That you, Vatnik?
>totally organic
also on
why are vatniks so obsessed with black wieners and gay sex
closeted behavior perhaps?
I think they're projecting some ethnic decline here, as if to say that they're truly white or some shit.
You know what time it is?
HIMAR & SMOKER time.
Putylivka & Mykolaiv
forgot to post pic.
(thank you Captcha)
Link to vid?
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1551625445002678273
https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1551623227801214978
Also nice drone kill
Much obliged.
>Webm
How did second guy keep running?