So almost 2 years ago Brandon Herrera released this video about the Heizer PAK1,
He spends 13 minutes whinging and whining about how awful the pistol is, namely because of light strikes and a break action that wont break open to reload.
However, I went on Heizer's website, scrolled down to the bottom of the page, and clicked the .pdf for Ammunition specifications. It says,
>Heizer Defense “Pocket” Pistols were tested and appear capable of firing different brands of ammunition with differing bullet grains; however, while other ammunition may perform in the pistol, the use of lower-quality ammunition may result in a “stuck” or “sticky” barrel (barrel hard to open) or “stuck” or “sticky” cartridge (cartridge hard to remove).
So Hererra just ran dogshit ammo through the thing without saying as such, not even giving it a chance.
Interesting Kentucky Ballistics left a comment seeming to likewise shit on the Heizer, but he would still go on to use it in this video from 6 months ago, where it performed surprisingly well,
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So what the FUCK was Brandon's problem? Why did he feel the need to run shit ammo through some obscure ass derringer in order to defame and shit on it?
Oh yeah, here's that Heizer Ammunition specifications .pdf,
https://heizerdefense.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/heizer-ammunition-insert.pdf
he is a retarded e celeb beaner
most 7.62x39 ammo is cheap dogshit
Hispanicy bad reviews on memey things get more views
a picky gun is a shitty gun. simple as/.
Shitty ammo is shitty ammo. Has no impact on the gun.
Many better guns can run shitty ammo without getting stuck.
>has no effect on the gun
Other than making the break action fucking stuck?
>my 1000cc sportbike is a piece of shit because I can't run 87 octane gas, it needs 93
retard
Comparison incompatible. Try again, gay.
>your fat gf doesn't cum when (you) put your shitty bent limp dick in her
>she only comes when I put my moderately hard average dick in her
by your logic your gf is picky and shitty
>quads of Truth
yeah its a bad comparison because its not a super fancy tuned gun that only likes boutique ammo, its a dogshit gun that doesn't even like dogshit ammo.
The real question is, why do you care? Because I could care less about what some attention whore has as an opinion on.
I was looking into the gun, and I just find it baffling that someone would disingenuously target something so obscure and irrelevant.
First time on the internet? It can be a doozy.
The phrase is "I couldn't care less".
saying you could care less implies you care at least a little bit.
The sarcastic permutation of the phrase "I could care less" meaning "I actually couldn't" actually has been in common use in America since at least the 80s.
It's just your standard "sarcastically enthusiastically insist on something it's obvious you don't believe" kind of idea.
I wish they had longer barrels available.
Dont care, still voting for him 🙂
Brandon Herrera gets free ammo from some of the shittiest quality companies looking to make a buck off their garden gnometube audience.
you think they're gonna send some dude their best ammo for free? you already know they're gonna blame the gun if anything goes bad.
you think the garden gnometuber is gonna use up his good ammo for his video? hell no.
>b-but a picky gun is a bad gun!!
there are 1,500$ AKs out there that won't shoot anything properly except steel case or specific weight bullets and will jam once a mag without it. 7.62 is a retarded round by design and will vary so greatly from manufacturer to manufacturer so much that one brand might work while 3 more won't.
A picky gun IS a bad gun anon. Guns are only as good as the ammo.
Those AKs are also considered shit
That and they're massively inflated in value now. A fucking John Rivers AK is $800 now and those are universally dog shit.
Anything from Bulgaria after 2013 is shit too. Their 5.56 SAM beats itself to death and they've done nothing to remedy the fact the rear trunnions are shitty soft metal
Beryl has none of these problems and is the BEST AK you can buy nowadays
>there are 1,500$ AKs out there that won't shoot anything properly except steel case
Oh no, it shoots the most common type of x39????
Horrible gun!!!!!!!
Meanwhile the POS OP's gun does not
iirc the gun also closed on a field gauge, which isn't so good
Correct, but he spent like 30 seconds on that actually important note and the rest of the video crying about his shit ammo and blaming the gun for it. How disingenuous the latter was makes me wonder if he did something on his end to cause the former.
>expecting a fair and serious review on a meme gun from a memetuber that never does fair and serious reviews
Y'all are something else
Also why tf would anyone run anything but the cheapest crappiest ammo you have in one of these?
>Pic unrelated
Don't chamber your gun in 7.62x39 if you don't want to tolerate the standards 7.62x39 ammo is held to.
Idk, it did a pretty good job on Jackie Jr. Then again, Vito did teleport in out of nowhere and shot him point blank.
A single shot 7.62x39 with a barrel so short the round would be visible poking out of the front if not for an extra inch of fake barrel with fucking holes through it...
Is a really really terrible idea for a gun. It's dumb as a gun, it's dumb as a derringer, it's not even cool looking. On every level it's fucking retarded.
>barrel so short the round would be visible poking out of the front if not for an extra inch of fake barrel with fucking holes through it...
Wrong. Post the round you have an inch of actual barrel and another inch of barrel with holes.
>another inch of barrel with hole
I.e useless fake barrel.
Recoil reduction isn't useless gay.
You can clearly see from videos of it being shot that the recoil is substantially less than what you'd expect of a gun that size and weight firing that round.
>Recoil reduction isn't useless gay.
Not having any velocity because half your barrel is actually a muzzle break is useless, gay.
>the recoil is substantially less than what you'd expect of a gun that size and weight firing that round.
Wow thank god I have low recoil on my single shot derringer that turns an intermediate rifle cartridge into something worse than most pistols.
>Not having any velocity
1200 FPS is still significant velocity, gay.
QQ more.
Anon, that's worse performance than 357 magnum, for which there are a great many derringers that dont get stuck trying to open themg. Your meme gun is fucking pointless.
>Anon, that's worse performance than 357 magnum,
Not a 357 out of a 2 inch barrel. That only has 900FPS.
Completely disregarding size and weight because you're noguns.
Literally 9mm tier velocity with similsr bullet weight lmao
Making it completely pointless to use a rifle round if it gets 0 rifle round performance
And you can't even make the argument that it's nice if you have a big stash of x39, because the common x39 jams it up
Just fuck off you stupid noguns
>1200fps 125gr
Wow, you turned a round that normally goes 2200+fps into fucking 9mm +P. Yes very significant velocity.
Awesome, worse than a good derringer and worse than any regular pistol.
Wow you sure showed us!
Good point, that recoil reduction will help with follow up shots.
It'll help you with nerve damage.
>worse than a good derringer
Already posted it outperforms 357 out of a similar length barrel.
>It does better in a fundamentally useless retarded design than regular bullets
Unfortunately for your point, we're not restricted to using one inch barrels with one inch pseudo barrel muzzle brakes, so we don't have to optimize for that retarded condition.
>Goalpost shifting
Sign of a sore loser.
>OMG GAIIIIIS THIS GUN IS SLIGHTLY BETTER AT DOING SOMETHING RETARDED NO ONE NEEDS THAT MEANS IT'S BETTER!!!!
How good a gun is at being retarded is irrelevant. I dont care what the best bullet out of a one inch barrel is, I dont care what the best bullet out of a no inch barrel is, I dont care what the best possible firearm that weighs half an ounce is, because none of those are limitations anyone actually has to operate under.
>Already posted it outperforms 357 out of a similar length barrel.
Okay. Then I'll just pull the trigger a second time on my revolver.
Revolver = bigger than derringer. Once again noguns disregards size and weight.
>You haven't said what sort of ammo he used,
He didn't either.
>nor why you assume it was low-quality.
I did say that; that all the negative complaints he had line up 1-for-1 with the exact symptoms of low quality ammo.
Smith and Wesson scandie J Frames are lighter and shorter, with only slightly more width and height on account of having actual proper pistol grips.
S&W steel J Frames are the same weight, while still being shorter and only slightly taller and wider on account of having an actual pistol grip.
This 'derringer' sucks dick at being compact.
Quit samefagging Herrera.
>Internet man said a pile of shit was bad so I have to think it's good to be smart
Even derringers have two shots if they're not dogshit.
>weight
ahhh oooh ooooh aaaah the weight of all these sub compacts and better derringers is killing me oooh oh no
Fucking gay.
How the fuck are there retards that genuinely defend this fucking thing? It's a god damn pistol that shoots either 5.56 or 7.62x39. If it can barely do that then it fucking sucks.
God this entire thread reeks of contrarianism and opposite think. The gun sucks, get a god damn grip.
imo this thing seems like it'd be a pretty good suicide gun
>e celeb thread #957
Almost all 7.62Soviet ammo is 'shit'.
It is 60s era milspec stuff designed with hard primers and dirty powder.
A failure for a novelty handgun to fire the most common types of 7.62x39 cartridges is a massive engineering failure. Neither Herrera nor any other reviewer/presenter owes the company special treatment with regard to ammo choice.
If it can't shoot the most common stuff, it isn't a good purchase.
can't believe I'm posting in this dogshit bait thread, but I have direct personal experience with the grandaddy to these pieces of shit weapons, the Doubletap Defense derringers. I had one in .45ACP, only because I bought it for $25. that's not a typo. it was heavy for it's size, completely unservicable by anybody because if you somehow took it apart you'd NEVER get it back together without proprietary tooling and the parent company was completely out of business for selling steaming piles for $550. If you'd like to emulate firing one, just put your palm on a sturdy surface and slam a hammer into the webbing of your thumb, then because they were double barrels do it again but this time with a 10lb sledge. Hands-down the worst excuse for a firearm on the planet, and some asshole decided to buy the plans and make some more chambered in intermediate rifle cartridges...god help you for even considering buying one.
>So Hererra just ran dogshit ammo through the thing
Assertion without evidence. You haven't said what sort of ammo he used, nor why you assume it was low-quality.
>Single shot pistol that isn't even cheap needs fancy pants ammo
Go fuck yourself
>Isn't even cheap
It's dirt cheap, liar.