The Gulf War era US military did extremely well against Iraq and Grenada. How would it have done in a peer to peer conflict with the Soviets?
The Gulf War era US military did extremely well against Iraq and Grenada.
The Gulf War era US military did extremely well against Iraq and Grenada. How would it have done in a peer to peer conflict with the Soviets?
>peer to peer
>soviets
Considering the Gulf War was right after the disastrous brundlefuck that was Soviet Russia's attempt at conquering Afghanistan, I presume things would go incredibly smoothly for the Americans.
The US would have faltered at first insofar as they would have vastly overestimated the capabilities of the soviet military partly out of caution and partly out of an inability to shake off the image of the soviet juggernaut, and as a result would have passed up numerous opportunities to just crush them in a decisive engagement. Once they figured out late 80's/early 90's Russia was a shadow of the boogeyman they imagined of the soviet union in its prime there would have been no contest.
Gulf War was fought by a huge coalition thoughever. Sure Americans could've pulled it off solo too
That's part of why they would have been successful against the sovs. They had Syria and Saudi fighting on the same side. Managing NATO would have been child's play in comparison. Russia was even worse with its allies then than America is now.
Gulf War was a UN mandated operation so it was pretty easy to get countries support that. Also many Arab leaders were just simply tired of Saddam's bullshit.
Depends on the year, I don’t think unthinkable would have been a cakewalk by any means. Assuming nooks are off the table I think anything post nam would have been a resounding victory for the US. Assuming this happens instead of the Soviet Afghan war, where the USSR did similar dick-tripping to the Ukraine war now, the US flattens them on a desert storm level.
Actually the Soviet Union after a certain point was so fractious I think any amount of early battlefield victories by the US would lead to immediate open armed rebellions/defections in the Warsaw Pact.
How the fuck was grenada a "extremely well"
it was a clusterfuck that succeeded only because it was against grenada with around 1500 personnel
Us intervention was roundly criticized and the media proclaimed it would be a second Vietnam, instead the war lasted 4 days with the US achieving all of it's objectives and throwing out the Russians and Cubans
>media proclaimed it would be a second Vietnam
media doesn't know shit this doesnt mean anything. they said iraq would be bloodbaths both times too
Soviets were peers MAYBE in the 1960s, by the late 1980s they were way behind. They would have got the same treatment as Iraq.
I'd argue the 70s was the point where the Soviets had rough parity even if it marked the start of stagnation. Even if you argue the Warsaw Pact lacked cohesion, things were not at all going well in the West during the time.
They were never able to make the switch from transistors to integrated circuits.
Sure they could produce them in small quantities but the mass production of them was impossible.
Soviet computing lost it’s edge, just as the West was taking off.
>How would it have done in a peer to peer conflict with the Soviets?
Just read Red Storm Rising lol
>Soviets get immediately bogged down a dozen kilometres from their starting line
>NATO airpower slaughters the Soviet backline
>C&C centres, logistics hubs and depots are targeted by cruise missiles and interdictor raids
>airpower is either suppressed or barely fighting back
>Soviet advance stalls due to lack of fuel and supplies
There's a nice mockumentary on it.
>US uses stealth fighters to cripple C&C
>Massive air battle over Europe
>Soviet logistics and cohesions falls apart
The Soviets would never gain air superiority, but their tanks were arguably peers to NATO ones, and outnumbered them too. It would’ve been a bloodbath for both sides
I always found it interesting this guy grew up in Tehran
>How would it have done in a peer to peer conflict with the Soviets?
>peer to peer with the Soviets.
LOL. LMAO even.
Are we considering the Soviets more or less capable than Wagner? Because if its the latter, then there's some atomized Russian and Syrian remains near Khasham that might give you an idea.
>200 russian mercenaries got bombed in Syria so that means the Soviet army would have failed
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late soviet union? no
60s, 70s, and early 80s soviets union before 1985? most likely yes
1960s Soviet Union would wipe the floor with NATO
1980s NATO would wipe the floor with the Soviet Union
Simple as