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19x,17,29,44,43x,48 all of my glocks are shit
Have you tried owning a 19 like a non-retarded person?
muh dik in ya muddah is real
17 length slide on 19 frame.
Because lots of people want a compact grip that doesn't print and makes garment clearance easier but don't have any problem concealing barrel length. I can actually carry a G34 just fine, but I prefer the G19 grip.
Because glock stopped caring what the market wants 2 decades ago. They only care about agency/departmental sales now. They'll sell an agency on swappable slides/frames on the 47/49 and sell them 2500 of each.
Funny enough, the glock AR isn't coming to America anytime soon either, Agencies/Departments want 11.5" bbl for vehicles. For some reason Glock won't shorten it from 16" so they won't get governmental sales. It would do great on the commercial market, but they aren't bothering because they won't get state contracts.
What does the market want? I've always wanted a full length barrel with a compact grip, now we've got it. What else is needed that doesn't already exist?
I can think of a dozen other glock iterations that would do better than a 49 in commercial & govt markets. The 49 was only created to sell agencies the gimmick of interchangeability, it won't have any success on the commercial market.
The 47 is the agency bait gun.
Name a single one.
The 49 was created to address consumer demand driven by the fact that lots of people don't need or want a short barrel.
if you choose barrel length over capacity, you shouldn't be carrying a gun because you're legally retarded
It's far easier to conceal extra barrel length than extra barrel length. I already carry a Glock 19, this would give me slightly increased muzzle velocity and sight radius with ZERO downsides.
*easier to conceal extra barrel length than extra grip length
I get what you're saying, but modern pistols loads negate the need for a longer barrel. You'll get effective performance and expansion out of a 3.5" barrel with a decent round like an HST 124 +p
More energy out of the muzzle is more energy on target. If modern handgun loads deliver that energy more efficiently than all the better for extra barrel lengths.
If the 49 wasn't MOS only I'd say there's no reason to get a 19 over a 49 for concealed carry at this point.
pistols with longer barrels tend to shoot better
Lots of people buy 1911s just to get a 45 that doesn't feel like a brick like the G21 or cost a fortune like the Sig P220. If Glock released a single stack 45/10mm that felt like a G17 and used the same holsters that would cut the 1911 market in half and basically start the beginning of the end.
I doubt "lots of people" do that when there are other double stack .45s on the market, like the HK45 and the PX4 .45 with slim grips, pretty much every one has released a .45 striker at some point, many of them more ergonomic than the 20/21
But Glocks are more mechanically accurate than any other $500 pistol and accuracy is another reason why people buy 1911s. The guys who wouldn't buy those other pistols might buy a Glock because the Glock can do close to 4moa.
okay, you're trolling
my bad for falling for the bait
This is very well known. Many tests have been done comparing the accuracy of modern pistols from ransom rests and Glocks almost always come out on top. This has been my experience too. Hornady Custom 147 grain can do 1" at 25 yards from a rest out of any Glock 9mm that I own consistently, with many other 147s not far behind. 115s usually do the worst. Interestingly Tula steel case ammo is actually the most accurate 115 grain I've used in Glocks. This is one of the reasons why I gave up on revolvers years ago for woods/survival guns. I can kill squirrels and shit just fine with the Glock it turns out.
Another thing is that Glock's polygonal rifling style increases velocity by a surprising amount. A G19 will almost always beat a full size Beretta 92 and most other full size pistols in chronograph tests, for example. The G34 averages 1260 fps with most 124+p, and 1360 with +p+ and can handle thousands of rounds of this ammo, treading on the heels of 357 magnum performance. The guns just really punch above their weight in many ways.
Glock stopped making polygonal rifling barrels.
Kek false. Gen 5 are the fastest shooting Glocks yet.
You'll also get significantly more muzzle flip and flash and blast. I have G26, G19, and G34, there's a night and day difference using the same ammunition between them. Standard P in the G26 is worse than +P in the 34. I'm not afraid to shoot the 34 without earpro if I have to, especially with 147 grain, I've done it several times. The 34 gets good expansion and performance with pretty much any hollowpoint you can find. It also gives me a better sight radius if I'm not using a RD. Barrel length absolutely matters and I want as much of it as I can fit in my pants.
checkd, and technically you're 100% correct, but statistically like 90% of defensive shootings occur at 10ft or less. I see a realistic shooting scenario being more of a center target dump, and in that situation I want more ammo over a longer sight radius. Not to mention, when you run 0y weapon retention drills, you see the benefit of a shorter barrel.
>but statistically like 90% of defensive shootings occur at 10ft or less
My carry gun isn't for self defense, it's for everything. That might be shooting a crackhead trying to mug me at 10 feet, or it could mean taking out a mass shooter at 70 yards down a Walmart aisle, or shooting a bear in the head so it dies before it can get to me, or killing a rabbit at 25 yards for dinner in SHTF. It's my all-purpose gun.
I'm curious as to which gun you've chosen for this. I haven't found one "do it all" gun.
Glock 17 obviously
If you can already conceal a 17-length grip without printing then the 49 is obviously pointless. For everyone else it has appeal, though.
Another thing is that the longer grip prints worse with a pack on or just doesn't interact well with the pack.
Do you carry?
This is a gun people have been asking for since appendix carry became popular.
Unlike the 45, 19x, 47, 44, etc, this is them actually listening to the market for once (or blindly stumbling onto what the market wants).
The 45 and 19x increased capacity while keeping the OAL short to increase handling. They're effectively the same gun, but the 19x was created for mil trials because it's LITERALLY what the market asked for.
The 44 has identical dimensions to the 19, completely interchangeable with holsters and accessories. Given the popularity of the 19 it makes a lot of sense because it enables anyone with a 19 to practice with cheaper ammo while using all of their existing gear.
Maybe these 3 weren't the most popular in terms of market demand, but they make sense... unlike the 49.
>OAL short to increase handling
Oh my noguns
Slide goes into pants, length of slide has no bearing on concealment
Grip is outside of pants, grip length hugely impacts concealment
But otherwise it should have a hair less recoil than a regular 19 and it looks cool
I'll stick to the g45
I can just get a PSA Dagger frame, a Brownells long slide, and the needed parts.
Holy shit I've been waiting for this for years. I have NEVER had any problem concealing barrel length and the G19 grip fits my hand perfectly even though I have large hands. This is the perfect handgun. This should have come out 30 years ago.
These fumos predate the invention of trannies.
they have always been secondary newfag shit
never forget what they took away from you
i want the g46 and nothing else
This. I have one Glock, and I don’t need another one. A US Market Glock 46 would get me to buy a second Glock. Just give it a standard US model trigger pull weight and remove the takedown lever at the back of the slide. I’d buy one and then I’d be done with handguns for a decade or more.
Was that going to be a single stack? A single stack 10mm/.45ACP Glock platform with the same external dimensions as the doublestack 9mm series would put 1911 in the grave once and for all, especially if they ship it with the minus connector. The company must surely know this.
Let me guess, you're either under 25 or over 60.
you're absolutely delusional if you think some garbage glock is going to put the 1911 in the grave after 112 years. they do not want a polymer gun, they do not want a striker, they do not want a single stack with the external dimensions as a double stack.
They already made a .45 caliber g17, it's called the g37. It's a shame that it didn't take off
The only glonk to put the 1911 in the grave is a p80 with its grip angle that is superior to the g21.
they're still going to make the 40 in gen 5, r-right?
Yeah, about 2 months after you break down and buy a Gen 4.
I am in the same boat, waiting for oblivion.
That's why I'm holding off on buying a G40. There are gen 4s everywhere for cheap right now. Not gonna fuck me over, no sir.
My only gripe is the finger grooves, it's the only thing I don't like on the gen 4, and I hate how stippling looks.
What else would even change, extra slide serrations and a different barrel? Probably one less magazine included and a $100 price increase, too.
Maybe I should just order that Gen 4...
You can just file off the finger grooves
Well they just made the 20 and 21 in gen 5, so 2 more weeks.
As long as the magazine was flush fit and the slide was as narrow as possible, I would buy this.
would buy if I could drop my 4.9" barrel from my g29 into it
hell, I would probably buy anyway
get back to me once glock makes the 69
Guess sales of the 47 convinced them to finally do it.
what the fuck, when did 47 become a thing for commercial market
what's the difference between this and 47? just the length of the dust cover?
49 comes with the 19 frame as opposed to the 47 coming with a 17 frame.
But the slides on them are interchangeable on the frames?
Yes, 49 seems to use the same slide as the 47 which has a 19 length recoil spring.
a bit confusing with all the numbers, but I suppose it makes sense. 47 = 17 grip length. 49 = 19 grip length. Both with Gen 5 19L slides/recoil spring assemblies.
Glock's numbering scheme has nothing to do with information about the gun. It's more or less sequential.
then it's a happy coincidence that it worked out this way.
I learned that the hard way. I thought the G44 was a 44 Magnum. When I brought it home the bullets didn't fit at all. I thought it was defective.
>g40 is 10mm
>g22 is .40
>g44 is 22
>g45 is 9mm
>g32 is .357
>g25 is .380
>g21 is .45
>g23 is .40
so its an MR920L?
yes third party makers have been offering a 19L for a very long time now, Polymer80 did it first. This is unironically the first time in a long time Glock is offering something the market actually wanted.
So the 49 is a 17 slide on a 17 frame?
That’s a 47. And technically it’s a 17 length slide on a 45/19X frame. The 49 is the 47 slide on a 19 frame.
>it’s a 17 length slide on a 45/19X frame
...that's a fucking G17 though?
Yes but because it's just a glock 17 and they exclusively make the 47 with an MOS cut, Glock 17 mos has been discontinued. The 17 standard is available though.
Plus the 47 was made for a government contract with BP.
>Glock 17 mos
What the fuck are you smoking?
The g47 is essentially the new g17.
Before the g47, you could not swap slides between a g19 and g17. After the success of the glock 45/19x, which is a g19 slide on a g17 frame, glock decided to make a g17 length slide that uses the g19/g19x/g45 recoil spring assembly, which resulted in the g47.
>g19-Compact slide compact frame
>g45/g19x-Compact slide full size frame
>g47-full size slide full size frame
>g48-full size slide compact frame.
These israelites are only shipping a single optics plate with MOS models now, btw.
You used to get everything you need to cover most mounting patterns on the market.
Only retards use the OEM plate to begin with. They just give you the 02 plate because it works with the Holoshit that all their braindead customers buy.
>do you have any green laser scopes, they work better for muh stigmatism
OP after action report.
Carried while doing some errands and noticed no difference in comfort compared to carrying a 19.
did you notice your shopping habits change with a wallet $600 lighter?
Nah, I sold a Sig I wasn't using to cover the cost.
regardless of how impossibly retarded the 49 is, I commend you for getting rid of a sig
I buy used Sigs because I don't like banks.
>>did you notice your shopping habits change with a wallet $600 lighter?
Yes, because although I didn't have $600, I now had a gun, which changes the way I "shop."
I wonder what causes grown ass men to act like this?
Why do you believe everything in the world revolves around trannies?
I don't, but everyone who's a 30 year old balding man with a anime profile pic just happens to be one
Im noticing things
Shouldn't you be busy making shitty vids using boring wojak memes?
Post more pics of your dolls of little girls
Cute. Wish I had the space for something like that. I guess I could put her on the couch.
Touhou isn’t an anime you cunt.
nobody cares about your dumb anime shit except your disappointed parents
Touhou is straighter than you. From the creators mouth there are no gays in his games. homosexuals and Lesbos eternally seething, based nip. Show some respect.
That was a fake interview posted on the equivalent of the Onion. You are a homosexual who I guarantee can't 1cc a single game.
It’s not anime shit. It’s a game series. Not even sure why you let tranime live rent free in your head on a weeb cumsock trading forum
What weapon did the Panama shooter use? Was it a glock? I want one
Gen 3 glock 26 my man. You can pick up a used one for a decent price or build your own from the frame up.
Am I wrong for wanting a Glock 48 with a 19 width accessary rail so it fits better lights? or this same idea except it also takes 19 slides so I only have to buy a frame & mags?
I was thinking a g48 slide on a g19ish frame. I like the thin slide width for AIWB but the skinny grip is terrible. I beefed mine up with some black guaze tape, feels much better.
I'm the opposite, carry a 19 but I got small hands so I'm thinking the 48 would be maybe a smidge better for some reason
glock 69 when?
Can I just buy the upper? I really want this but I already have 2 G19s. Am I correct in thinking that it's just a G17 upper designed to fit a G19 frame?
You can but just a reminder that you need to buy the complete 47 slide. The glock 17 and 19 are similar but aren't identical, the barrels aren't interchangeable.
Actually with Gen 5 the barrels are interchangeable. They redesigned the lugs so they all use the G19 style lugs. This means that you could even put a G34 barrel in a 26 now and have 2" of barrel sticking out.
You are correct. The g47 slide might only work with a gen5 g19 if I'm not mistaken.
>FOR FUCK SAKE THEY DID IT YEEEEES
I own picrel G45. I was frustrated as fuck with that G19/G47 combo. Now I'll buy a G49 and do my own 1 + 1 = 4.
Could I just buy a 49 slide assembly and put it on an existing 19 frame?
Assuming that 19 frame is a gen 5, yeah. I dunno if they just sell the slide assemblies though
>not a g20 longboi
Another boring Glock that no one asked for. Maybe Keltec can buy them someday and they do something novel for once
Still unremarkable, but makes way more sense than the 45.
Less velocity, smaller sight radius, harder to conceal the grip, less mag options. All those things are fairly negligible, but the 49 seems more practical, if just barely.
Why do people jerk off about all these new G19 based glocks. Wouldn't you rather have a G17/G34 length recoil system?
Wouldn't the 49 have a 17 length recoil system since it's a fullsize slide?
No. 19/45 recoil and spring system. That is the point.
With a G17 and a G19, you got a G17 and a G19, you can't swap anything. But you will be fine I guess.
With a G19 and a G47, you got a G19, a G19L (equivalent of new G49), a G45 and a G47 (equivalent of former G17), because you can swap uppers and lowers all the way.
With a G45 and a G49 (new factory name for G19L concept) you can do the same, the other way around, and have also 4 guns configurations.
They shouldve done that years ago.
I want a Glock 48 Slide and nose on top of a Glock 19 grip or stated otherwise, a Glock 48 that takes a Glock 19 magazine. This seems incredibly obvious since weight and thickness, particularly towards the muzzle are 2 big factors in carry comfort but Glock won't do it. They wouldn't make a Glock 36 with a Glock 30 handle either. The fuck is wrong with them?
I'm actually somewhat interested in this. I was tempted to buy a 47 and swap the frame out for a 19.
Does glock still hold patents on G19 type guns? My only guess why they're pushing this shit so hard besides procurement requirements is that it gets them away from the gen III market which is essentially open source at this point.
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