The frist 'anti-material' sniper rifle from WWI. Yes, it was the Germans. Again.

I think honestly we need a new major war and let the Germans fight it. They will invent like 1000 new fancy weapons in the process, then maybe lose and we can copy all their ideas.

Like during WWI when the krauts invented the anti-tank rifle to crack open British M1 tanks.
And it worked.

Mauser Mod. 1918 13.2 mm Tankgewehr

> The armour-piercing hardened steel cored 13.2×92mm (.525-inch) semi-rimmed cartridge, often simply called "13 mm"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_1918_T-Gewehr

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Their SPG's in Ukraine are already fucky. Krauts can make good industry and good weapons, but they'll always be complicated unless they're forced to simplify them. By that time, they don't really matter (like the sheet metal rifles from 1945)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sheet metal rifles
      what is it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Last resort rifles they made.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Their SPG's in Ukraine are already fucky. Krauts can make good industry and good weapons, but they'll always be complicated unless they're forced to simplify them.
      The PzH2ks are doing just fine, they need maintenance after shooting 300 rounds a day but so do the M777s of which 1 third are unusable despite being much simpler.
      That's what war does, get used to it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are fucky because russian is unable to counter battery fire against them. They were designed to shoot and scoot.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"material"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes material

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Moron

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what material are you talking about? paper or plastic?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          WWI tanks. Its an anti-tank rifle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's materiel

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What's the difference? Both words mean the same thing - one just looks like one of those fucky British spellings.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No they don't, you ESL retard

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              gay

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They are not the same thing.

            "Materiel" is war supplies and military equipment.

            "Material" is just any form of matter.

            Therefore an anti-materiel rifle is a rifle used against military equipment, whereas an anti-material is a rifle that destroys matter which has wholly sci-fi implications.

            And no, a sniper rifle and anti-materiel/anti-tank are indeed completely different things. A sniper rifle is highly accurate, and shoots sub-MOA groupings. Anti-materiel/anti-tank rifles shoot at much bigger targets and are significantly less accurate. Yes they can be used against personnel but that is not their primary function.

            In the future don't get all your information about guns from CoD.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              insufferable moron.

              Since 'material' also implies 'materiel' op is correct.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So the glock 17 is also an anti-material handgun because 'material' implies 'matter' which people are made of. Perfect, thanks for the info.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            the bongs aren't the retards here for once

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >those fucky British spellings.
            So when you have to learn Spanish, are you going to fuck it up just as much?
            I hope so.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >invented a big rifle

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    what's the point of these threads?
    I can tell you're the same guy who makes those passive-agressive seetheposts about america, but normally you're shilling for russia, not germany.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >russia
      Russia’s humiliating failure of a Special Military Operation has completely unhinged some kind of demoralized useful idiot and now he flails about, rootless and seething. Hopefully he manages to have sex before he shoots up a Wendy’s or something.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its really just a giant mauser action with 2 extra rear lugs. It was the first anti tank rifle and the first relatively easily portable weapon specifically designed for infantry to fight tanks but it wasn't anything technologically impressive.
    Its still a very cool gun that has its mark in the history of warfare being one of the first counters to mechanized warfare

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anti materiel
    yes
    >sniper rifle
    !!!RETARD ALERT!!!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah that's was its called.

      > The Mauser 13 mm anti-tank rifle (German: Tankgewehr M1918, usually abbreviated T-Gewehr) is the world's first anti-tank rifle

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a sniper rifle though

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Much semantic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That description doesn't say anything about sniper or material you dunce

        Its an anti-tank rifle.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          tanks are made of materials anon

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The T-Gewehr wasn't "fancy" or "new". It was an unsuccessful attempt to counter the Allies' technological and material superiority with a stopgap single-shot rifle. You know what was impressive? The thousands of Allied tanks that were swarming the battlefield in 1918.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck, I'm saying "material" now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, it was the first anti-materiel rifle and you copied it soon afterwards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
        opinion discarded gay detected

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was new as it was the first anti tank rifle and the first gun designed specifically to give infantry a way to combat tanks. Armor on many of the tanks was around .5 inches and the tankgewehr was designed to penetrate about 1 inch of steel at a flat angle

      https://i.imgur.com/gFfPZru.jpg

      BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, it was the first anti-materiel rifle and you copied it soon afterwards

      Lots of countries copied the concept of the tankgewehr like the boys anti tank rifle, ptrd, Wz. 35, Type 97, solothurn, lahti l39 etc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Saying the PTRD and boys is a copy of the tankgewehr is like saying the M1 abrams is a copy of the renault FT

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >copied the concept
          After the tankgewehr, using a large caliber rifle became the norm of the 20- early 40s of fighting tanks rather than having infantry run at tanks with grenade bundles and hoping for them not to be gunned down by other infantry

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            By this logic everything copied the concept of a gun from the firelancr

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Not really, its one of the many stepping stones in firearms development that lead to further developments, like the firelance, handgonne, dreyse needle rifle, gattling gun, lebel, rsc 1917, stg 44 etc.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes Sir!

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Germans were the ones to invent an anti materiel rifle because they were the only ones defending against materiel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      false. The Germans had also tanks but the allies just failed to invent the anti-tank gun

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Germans had a grand total of 20 A7Vs and about 30 operational looted allied tanks
        The french alone had over a thousand

        The allies had no impetus to field a dedicated anti-tank gun because the germans had so few

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The Germans had also tanks
        like only 20 of them

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason the Germans came up with it first is because they DIDN'T come up with tanks first. And 'big rifle' is rather less impressive to me than a tank.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We did com up with tanks first actually

      We just told no one because it was considered a terrible idea by army HQ

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        true

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We just told no one because it was considered a terrible idea by army HQ
        and then the krauts were ground into the mud by His Majestey's landships lmao. why are germans so bad at war?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's not true no matter how you swing it. The first tank that actually was built was British. An Austrian guy suggested an idea in 1911... the same year an Australian actually submitted a design to the British War Office (and was on par with the original Mk1 tanks). Russians also designed a tank as an idea. They were rejected in 1914. No Germans involved. If you go further back from 1911 Scott suggested that tracked transport was needed for his expedition, which was confirmed to be the basis of the track design for tanks. So that's 1908, again, British. Donohue (again, British) suggested the idea of a tracked armoured gun, as did a Frenchman. No German in sight. In 1903 H.G Wells described a tank that was actually steel. Richard Lovell Edgeworth (again, British) suggested such a vehicle before 1903 iirc.

        If you want to go even further back then Zizka suggested caterpillar tracks back in the 15th century, which was the same century that Leonardo proposed the idea of 'tank' but it was not feasible and not what we know as a 'tank'.

        So no matter how you swing it, the Germans didn't invent shit. The Austrians? Maybe. But the British came up with the idea way before anybody else AND actually built and fielded it.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand this gimmick, please explain.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm talking about your gimmick about making all these 'Germans are ze best' shit. You've got dozens of threads up (either made or hijacked) and I don't understand it. You are regularly proven wrong and you just keep on talking like you know what you're talking about. I don't understand. Why are you doing it?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hans
    >what if we put the bullets in backward
    Honestly field shit like that impresses me to no end. Sure it's the stopped clock scenario but still.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if Germany is so awesome, how did they lose not one but two world wars?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > muh butthurt

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        meds

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Krauts based, USA butthurt

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            meds

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Meds are shit, germanics are the best

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://geneva.usmission.gov/2018/04/11/ccw-u-s-statement-on-characterization-of-the-systems-under-consideration/

    Official government doc:

    >Similarly, we have also not based our definitions in trying to categorize weapons by their design purpose – for example, as either “anti-personnel” or “anti-material.” We also don’t view “lethality” as a particularly helpful qualifier in this regard.

    anti-materiel fags on suicide watch.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >taking language from uninformed legislators
      Hand over the assault weapon, anon.

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