The first Greek drone that the Turks are trembling over!

Source: https://twitter.com/greekcitytimes/status/1560974096032473088

Is this a joke?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what even is a greek person? other than statues from 2000 years ago i don't have a single image of a greek person that pops into my head yet they're nearly as arrogant as swiss online when talking about their country and culture

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what even is a greek person?
      a person that's poor, lives in greece, eats Moussaka and hates turkey

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eats Moussaka
        that's an egyptean dish, give it back.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, greek find it greek keep it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So is most of their ancient technology and culture.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Learn something about them then. They may no be ancient Greeks anymore but they still hold those traditions and history close

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what even is a greek person? other than statues from 2000 years ago i don't have a single image of a greek person that pops into my head yet they're nearly as arrogant as swiss online when talking about their country and culture

        Well, since we're on that. Here's a fun fact: Outside of the reign of Alexander, Greece was never a real country. They were either rival states competing or warring with each other, or were ruled by foreign empires (Persians, Romans, Bulgars, Crusaders, Ottomans).

        Alexander himself after he came to power became a Persophile and Iranophile. He adopted Persian clothing, Persian administration, and married two Persian women and a Bactrian woman. He spent his whole life running away from everything Greek, which is probably why he was politically successful, and remains renowned across the Orient.

        Since Byzantine times, the Greeks themselves called themselves Roman ("Romaioi") until the late 1700s to early 1800s. Then suddenly they rediscovered some long lost identity that seemingly didn't exist for 1300 to 1500 years before that.

        Many people point out that Anatolia was once Greek before it was Turkish, but they conveniently leave out that it was inhabited by non-Greeks before that, such as the Hattians and Hittites, and the Cimmerians who were ethnic Iranic. Even before the ethnic Greeks started settling deeper into Anatolia, the region was already part of the Median Empire and Neo-Babylonian Empire, both of which the Persian Empire conquered (Cyrus was half Median himself and defeated his grandfather who was the Medes emperor).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for the info

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You don't really understand why Alexander medized. Spoiler: it wasn't really because he appreciated the Persians more, as he still surrounded himself with very Greek sycophants, it was politics. He wanted to create a persian phalanx (yes) in order to disconnect himself from the other macedonian warlords' influence and just do as he pleased.
          Here's a quote from Alexander at this apogee: "I'd rather be Homer's Thersites than Choerilus' Achilles", how disconnected from Greek culture do you think that is?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            also, Greece was never a real country under Alexander, either... jesus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Well, since we're on that. Here's a fun fact: Outside of the reign of Alexander, Greece was never a real country. They were either rival states competing or warring with each other, or were ruled by foreign empires (Persians, Romans, Bulgars, Crusaders, Ottomans).

          the greeks back then were aware of their tribal identity
          athenians thespians spartans cretans bla bla
          but they were also aware that they were hellenes and not hellenes as the athenians thought but hellenes as you me someone else thinking as a hellene
          if anything the term greek is pure bs since its a made up word to describe people coming from specifically 3 regions of greece that was invented by the romans

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is the Byzantine Empire not Greek? Orthodox Christians and Greek as a major language throughout the Empire.
          >Since Byzantine times, the Greeks themselves called themselves Roman ("Romaioi") until the late 1700s to early 1800s.
          Everyone called themselves Roman back then.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are.
        It's the Turks who are in denial about who they are.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sourcing fucking paul fagoupolos, a stormfag living in australia

          Yeah, I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt. Turks living closest to the Greek mainland actually have the highest percentage of Central Asian DNA. As do a substantial number of Greeks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You sleep too much.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cute girls with curly black hair

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stav from cumtown

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A turk that lives in Greece, eats grease and hates Turkey.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Basically a Turkish person except they hate Turkey.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bet it bruised your borger-eating ego, dinnit.
      Be honest

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wooden propeller
    lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s wrong with that? It’s a drone, it keeps the costs low and it’s light. Not everything has to be made out of plastic, aluminum, and titanium.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And low radar interaction. Actually it's probably pretty damn good from a technical perspective.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the joke that it looks like a TB2?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the joke that it looks like a TB2?
      Aside from being a rip-off of the TB2, it's far tinier, but the joke is that the "Turks are trembling"

      What’s wrong with that? It’s a drone, it keeps the costs low and it’s light. Not everything has to be made out of plastic, aluminum, and titanium.

      And low radar interaction. Actually it's probably pretty damn good from a technical perspective.

      Sounds like you're inhaling copium. I still don't understand how anybody in Turkey is "trembling". I don't see them trembling at Russian, Chinese or Iranian drones. So why would this PVC drone scare anybody?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thirdie balkan shitflinging thread
    Already have my popcorn ready

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Croatians are the only good ones, theyre germanic too. explains a lot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slovenians too. But they're more of Central Europeans than Balkan.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all western balkans people down to albania are like 25% germanic (teuton, goth, etc.) - that doesn't mean shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this map is painfully retarded and wrong

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's based on data from Igenea which is similar to ancestry.com and has a decent sample size according to them.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Greece is barely a nation at this point. They're en route to go bankrupt again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If bankruptcy means 5.7% estimated annual economic growth for 2022 (revised upward after hitting a previously estimated 4% milestone), then yeah sure. Moron. Get your facts straight before shitposting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/cds-historical-data/turkey/5-years/

        http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/cds-historical-data/greece/5-years/

        how in the world you think that greece is going to be bankrupt when their cds is so low?

        read about what greece did to join the european union and then think about greece's economic numbers again

        Greece has 1/8 of the population of Turkey but more foreign debt. That means per-capita-wise Greece has 9x more external debt than Turkey.
        > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt

        Greece's entire economy and society exists only because of EU handouts, and their economy is mostly agrarian. They don't produce shit besides food, and even that requires a sizeable chunk of emigrant labor. Outside of agriculture and tourism they have nothing, and they'll have a population crisis in the next decade too.
        > https://images.populationpyramid.net/capture/?selector=%23pyramid-share-container&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.populationpyramid.net/greece/2030/

        Greece may try to start a war with Turkey when that happens, partly as a distraction and partly as way to gain more EU and US support for decades to come, and because wars are usually followed by a surge in birthrates. It will be a big mistake, of course. China is heading towards the same direction, except China actually produces shit and is self-reliant and doesn't simply rely on begging like Greece does.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Greece also has twice the GDP per capita Turkey has. Let that sink in.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Greece also has twice the GDP per capita Turkey has. Let that sink in.

            Well no shit, Greece is part of the EU, has EU passports, and uses EU currency. The average Greek could literally be homeless and begging for food and would technically still be richer than the average Turk eating meat and bread every day and a roof over their head.

            Try comparing Turkey with every non-EU state in the region. Romania's GDP per capita is higher than Turkey's too ($12k vs $8.5 per 2020 figures), but literally nobody who knows anything would consider Romania richer than Turkey. A lot of industry in Romania is owned by Turkish companies, from their largest electronics maker (Arctric) to one of their three largest television channels (Kanal D Romania).

            >Greece
            >en route to go bankrupt again.
            I think you misspelled "Turkey".

            The Turkish lira is at all-time lows, entirely due to Erdogan firing every central bankster who told him that he was going to wreck the economy with his "Islamic finance" insanity.

            > The Turkish lira is at all-time lows, entirely due to Erdogan firing every central bankster who told him that he was going to wreck the economy with his "Islamic finance" insanity.

            Literally a meme with no basis in reality. Whether the interest rate is 10% or 15% or 18%, they're all equally un-Islamic because Islam only requires ZERO interest. Erdogan merely mentioned that Islamic interest point in maybe like two of his public rallies, and then certain media outlets and online weirdos started repeating it as if that's the reason for any of his policies. It isn't.
            Do you even understand how bankruptcies work?? Turkey has one of the lowest foreign-debt in the G20 in overall terms, and one of the lowest foreign-debt among large countries in the world in per capita terms.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes muh EU. Don't you have a tsar to beg for gas ?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can post all the bullshit you want but in reality numbers do not lie
          lets see
          turkish bonds and yields
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/turkey/5-years/
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/turkey/10-years/
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/turkey/2-years/
          https://www.tcmb.gov.tr/wps/wcm/connect/en/tcmb+en

          now lets see greece
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/greece/2-years/
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/greece/5-years/
          http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/bond-historical-data/greece/10-years/
          https://www.bankofgreece.gr/en/statistics/financial-markets-and-interest-rates/ecb-interest-rates
          turkish yields are on average 200% more toxic than greece
          at some point according to the data greece almost had a negative bond yield
          people LITERALLY paid greece to buy the bonds

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's great. We'll see how things turn out when the 2030s sets in.
            Much like how Turkey had a Defense Industry Revolution in the early 2010s, which the world only saw the real-world effects of in the late 2010s. Turkey has been undergoing an Electric Vehicle and IT Revolution since the mid 2010s that you'll see the real-world effects of between mid to late 2020s. You have no clue what's coming.

            >in reality numbers do not lie

            Numbers are relative to currency, and Greece uses EU currency. They benefit from Western European productivity by proxy by using the same currency. Those of us in the know-how aren't worried one bit about Turkey's future. Glad to hear you're confident about Greece's future.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              turkey over extended their abilities on the military
              syria proved that not only because they facilitated isis but also because they attacked russia with all the hilarious bullshit that this move lead to
              now where is turkey? right inside of caatsa sanction list that prevents them from selling and or buying anything with u.s tech on it
              and im not even gonna mention the rest of the bullshit on east med in africa yara yara

              >Numbers are relative to currency, and Greece uses EU currency
              yields are irrelevant to the currency yields represent TRUST on your economy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/cds-historical-data/turkey/5-years/

      http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/cds-historical-data/greece/5-years/

      how in the world you think that greece is going to be bankrupt when their cds is so low?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Greece had insane economic statistics back in 2008 when they were nearly going bankrupt and bailed out by Germany too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no they didnt in 2007 all the rating agencies downgraded greece in late november which started the downward spiral that led to greece having a cds of 400+2008 which eventually grew to 800+ in 2014 i think
          turkey is on the same level as greece was back in 2008 but it gets worse due to the retarded muslim policies erdogan is imposing on their economy..
          now turkey is almost at 800 cds they basicly need to pay 800.000 euros per 10 million bond plus yields and insurances which go roughtly at 3 million total
          its basicly a toxic enviroment for any foreign investment just look at greece they didnt see any foreign influx up untill 2019

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Greece is faking their statistics and have been doing so for years. Anyone who actually tries to propose real solutions gets shouted down.

        So in that regard Greece is exactly like Turkey.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Greece is faking their statistics with the IMF all up in their ass

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >greece is faking their statistics

          greece was in bailout monitoring up untill few months ago why you are even replying without any basic level of understanding of the situation?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >was in bailout monitoring
            Past tense

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        read about what greece did to join the european union and then think about greece's economic numbers again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Greece
      >en route to go bankrupt again.
      I think you misspelled "Turkey".

      The Turkish lira is at all-time lows, entirely due to Erdogan firing every central bankster who told him that he was going to wreck the economy with his "Islamic finance" insanity.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No weapons pylons.
    What's supposed to make anybody tremble at this, it looks like a castrated Bayraktar.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, no, the castrated version is TB2J Janissary type Bayraktar. It can not be built from scratch only converted from other Bayraktar's.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The optics look like they've been photoshopped on

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Greek drone that the Turks are trembling over
    aren't these retards both in the same military alliance? can we get them into a get-along sweater

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how to spot the same turk that visits WAFF and only shitposts there

    glad i left that shithole

    time to educate you little turk
    this isnt a military drone
    this is called RX1 and it first flew 7 months after tb2

    the greek drone under the codename of archytas is this one its a scale 1/3 model with some general info on the desc tag
    this is the totally domestic program that will produce two types of drones and not to be confused with the LOTUS eu program

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that design is similiar to the one from the lotus program
      im not sure why its 1/3 scale maybe its 1/2? cause wtf can it carry with those blades on that setup?

      also its funny this program was annc almost 1.5 years ago and its already on its final stage

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Jakobenogullari/status/1564708571090149377
    gotta love that both sides curse in turkish, greek and english at the same time

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lmao, even Mexico has a more advanced drone industry than Greece.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.intracomdefense.com/lotus-next-generation-tactical-uav-from-intracom-defensefor-isr-missions/
    Wake me up when they finish this one

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the first greek drone was built in the '80s
    Back to the bread line roach

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like AliExpress drone

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/worldarmedforcesforum/waff-greece-turkey-defence-forum-world-s-armed-for-f248068/

    just leaving this here for future refrence of turkish stupidity

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit this is a goldmine even on forums turks are being owned

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    greece has awaken
    greek empire now
    hey turk, dont run away mighty greeks are coming

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    smells like kebap

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's a troll post since it's a tiny drone. Plus it's not the first greek drone, this one picrel is. The Dassault euro drone.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      eh not really
      we had the pegasus since the 80s
      but for some inexplicable reason they thought that drones werent usefull

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is an alibaba drone

    Modern Greece is a major failure, it doesn't exist on its own merit. Modern Greece is incapable of producing anything worthy

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