the first casualty of any war is the truth

Tyler Rogoway

Examining high-res sat imagery taken this AM of Russia's airbase in Kursk that supposedly came under mass drone attack shows nothing outright in terms of damage. No aircraft appear destroyed. This is a cursory look, analysis could change. That base has heavy ADs to overcome.

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1696070712132612233

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I had a cent every time artists draw the Switch unit as a square I'd be a fucking millionaire by now.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    okay now show us these photos

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >photos on twitter from the drive
      >SHOW US THE PHOTOS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://nitter.net/Aviation_Intel/status/1696072184186479029#m

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First casualty of being Russia is the truth more like. How's Robotyne doing? Here's some people with WEAPONS in Robotyne

    If Russians were worth a fuck as a people they would not be censorious lying fucks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thread on Kursk attack
      >whatabout Robotyne

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first thread that came out was full of people saying the same - show us the satellite photos, radar imaging or at least IR and we might believe you. No photos, no destroyed aircraft.

      That said, The Drive is a terrible source.

      Stop embarrassing yourself.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    to be fair i couldnt believe it either but the propaganda from both sides have being so stupid that you never know

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since OP is, as usual, a gay who decided not to include an actually relevant image

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is probably just oil spills, mess on tarmac, that sort of thing

        (no really, it probably is, this is russia)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or tar patches to fill in damage, but I choose to think oil spill because it's funnier

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/9krJ8D2.png

      so im a gay because you refuse to click on a link?

      riiight

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        consider clicking the twitter link without having an account. no pics.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1696070712132612233
          HEY STUPID gayS STOP POSTING TWITTER LINKS!!!

          PEOPLE WITHOUT TWITTER ACCOUNTS DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU FUCKING RETARDS!!

          NO I'M NEVER GETTING A TWITTER ACCOUNT!

          IF I WANTED TO READ TWITTER POSTS I WOULD DOWNLOAD TWITTER, MAKE AN ACCOUNT, AND READ TWITTER POSTS!!

          YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS SHIT HEAD CUM DUMPSTER!!!!!

          >so im a gay because you refuse to click on a link?
          you dont belong here

          be part of elon you worthless dna cumdumpsters!

          The first thread that came out was full of people saying the same - show us the satellite photos, radar imaging or at least IR and we might believe you. No photos, no destroyed aircraft.

          That said, The Drive is a terrible source.

          Stop embarrassing yourself.

          >That said, The Drive is a terrible source.
          ofc i expected that someone will try to discredit the source even tho the drive is literally one of the most used source here
          but then again you people use businessinsider as a source even tho they literally post opinions as sources

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most used
            There are gays here that spam the board with CNN or Forbes whenever they post something that suits them.
            That doesn't make CNN or Forbes reliable sources.
            And no, BI isn't a great source either.
            That said, like I mentioned in my original post - a sourceless claim on social media without accompanying imagery is even worse. Only exception is if the other side confirms it, e.g. pro-war Russian bloggers mention it or Peskov denies it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              does it matter tho? how can people refute literal sat photos?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Easy. Just ignore it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most used
            There are gays here that spam the board with CNN or Forbes whenever they post something that suits them.
            That doesn't make CNN or Forbes reliable sources.
            And no, BI isn't a great source either.
            That said, like I mentioned in my original post - a sourceless claim on social media without accompanying imagery is even worse. Only exception is if the other side confirms it, e.g. pro-war Russian bloggers mention it or Peskov denies it.

            I think The Drive is pretty good and the people who write for it tend to be autistic military tech nerds, like PrepHole, and it appeals to that sort of person. I like Trevithick who is very good at spamming the Pentagon with FOIA requests about really obscure shit so he does turn up interesting things. No media outlet is perfect though because they're run by people operating on incomplete information and they're incentivized to beat their competition at being first, but that's the nature of the business. They can also crank out the stories daily which takes a lot of discipline.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1696070712132612233
        HEY STUPID gayS STOP POSTING TWITTER LINKS!!!

        PEOPLE WITHOUT TWITTER ACCOUNTS DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU FUCKING RETARDS!!

        NO I'M NEVER GETTING A TWITTER ACCOUNT!

        IF I WANTED TO READ TWITTER POSTS I WOULD DOWNLOAD TWITTER, MAKE AN ACCOUNT, AND READ TWITTER POSTS!!

        YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS SHIT HEAD CUM DUMPSTER!!!!!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          u mad

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1696070712132612233
            HEY STUPID gayS STOP POSTING TWITTER LINKS!!!

            PEOPLE WITHOUT TWITTER ACCOUNTS DON'T SEE ANYTHING YOU FUCKING RETARDS!!

            NO I'M NEVER GETTING A TWITTER ACCOUNT!

            IF I WANTED TO READ TWITTER POSTS I WOULD DOWNLOAD TWITTER, MAKE AN ACCOUNT, AND READ TWITTER POSTS!!

            YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS SHIT HEAD CUM DUMPSTER!!!!!

            kek samefag

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're too spineless to post an image or repository link and say "Hey, look at what I have obtained. My opinion based on existing images is that nothing happened."
          It always has to be about "Look, someone on twitter said something!"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Replace the twitter.com with nitter.net or whatever other nitter instance you prefer, like so:
          https://nitter.net/Aviation_Intel/status/1696070712132612233
          For age-restricted posts, nitter.privacydev.net is the only instance I'm aware of that's got some workaround to reliably show them, although it'll occasionally switch to a sfw backup mode if there's particularly heavy load on the site.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nitter has been broken for two weeks, anon.
            Musk restricted access to twitter API for anonymous requests, so the only instances that work are the ones which use twitter account keys for authentication.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Could've fooled me

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the only instances that work are the ones which use twitter account keys for authentication
                Shit is unstable and hinges on the incompetence of twitter staff failing to block data scrapping accounts.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I'm thinking based. Fuck twittards and fuck twatter links

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so im a gay because you refuse to click on a link?
        you dont belong here

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >go to restaurant
        >order my food
        >half an hour later, waiter asks me if I'm enjoying my meal
        >ask wtf he's saying, it hasn't been served
        >waiter gets pissy, says it's in the kitchen
        >demands to know why I expect him to deliver it to my table
        >he points out the kitchen is only a short walk away, am I really that lazy?
        Now, would you agree with the waiter, or would you consider him a fucking retard who needs to kill himself?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’d be like wow that’s messed up man

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I await further proofs,
    but in the mean time its immaterial as to how many or how few aircraft pucca has in its portfolio.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any shots of the base from a few days before?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the base

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The colorized meme is completely retarded. It was funny once or twice. Now it's overdone hack. And it has never been funny to say colorized when it's modern era or not a photograph.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome to all memes made after you turn 21. You'll notice a lot of "they're just spamming retarded shit" memes in future. Have fun

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aircraft being destroyed or inoperable does not have to lean that they "look destroyed", it could simply be that shrapnel blew and busted the engines, radar or such.
    These were paper drones, for all we know the damage is more similar to that FPV drone which was used against that one AWACS plane. It blew up right on the radar, and would definitely have damaged it. But nobody believed it until they released footage, cause the satellite footage couldn't prove anything.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also these were the tiny 4 - 5kg load literal paper drones, right? They're basically Switchblades. They'd work on sensitive equipment, but they're not blowing a giant hole in an airplane. So similarly, the visible damage would be small.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lean that they "look destroyed", it could simply be that shrapnel blew and busted the engines, radar or such.
      If there's no visible damage, how could Ukrainians be sure they made it inoperable?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not op but this is the biggest bullshit i have ever read
      if a lancet is able to get literal tanks out of service
      then a "paper" drone that is actually made by a steel frame with 5kg of payload travelling at 30-50km/h it most SURELY be able to penetrate the thin aluminum skin of ANY aircraft

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but that doesn't mean the aircraft will explode into pieces, especially if it's just launching shrapnel
        sure it will shred through something but you're not seeing the airframe bisected like a javelin just shot down on it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          obviously it wont explode but it will catch fire and fires...usually leave a trace and that trace doesnt exist at least on the sat photos

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            only if it's fueled and strikes the fuselage
            russians have been caught stealing fuel since the start of the war, and we don't know what goes on behind the lines
            essentially, it is schrödingers cardboard drone until we get more evidence

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Afaik these drones could carry up to 5 kg of weight. Is that really enough to damage an aircraft?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is 85gr of HE filler inside a 30mm round.
              Effect is increased because the explosion was inside the aircraft, but still. Most kinds of fragmentation shot from a 5kg payload would slice anything critical inside an aircraft.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    äää

    oh GREAT, another flex from the vietcong DONGOLOIDS. yes, we all know swamp asians have HUGE GIRTHY STENDOS. no, we're not letting u fuck our boywives. they say the big ones hurt anyway.

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