>The CIA has never actually done anything wrong the more you dig into it.
What?
Their incompetence almost erased our planet, the mind control experiments, their meddling in Central American states, participation in petrodollar warfare, their torture camps.... nothing wrong?
You are mentally ill if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen.
You are actively cheerleading the death of the democracy and rule of law.
You are either underage, a mentally ill freak or you are being paid to do this.
>if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen
bro that applies to literally every intelligence agency around the world >Oh no why isn't the government going to leak their top secret documents
>bro that applies to literally every intelligence agency around the world >>Oh no why isn't the government going to leak their top secret documents
Our intelligence agency has a yearly report on what have they been doing, they already admitted they have the capacity to listen in on a quarter of a million of our population.
Keep cheerleading the death of your country's ideology, freak.
Fuck off.
>if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen
bro that applies to literally every intelligence agency around the world >Oh no why isn't the government going to leak their top secret documents
You are mentally ill if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen.
You are actively cheerleading the death of the democracy and rule of law.
You are either underage, a mentally ill freak or you are being paid to do this.
>Unironically recommending this
Blum is a socialist and Chomsky dick rider
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NTA but I enjoy socialist seething over the DoD and CIA every now and then. The difference, of course, is they believe the world actually works like that and I fervently wish it were true.
CIA is responsible for the build up of the nuclear weapons which lead to those situations.
When they were created, they were ran by utter retards that could not understand or infiltrate the Soviet Union so they lied to the President of the United States to indicate that they know more than the military that assessed the USSR's ICBM fleet to be no more than half a dozen.
Are you implying that if we didn't build nukes that Soviets who magically also stop making nukes? Also a decent amount of the close calls happened in the USSR.
Well they were mostly DOD civilians who had formerly been take-your-pick-of-highspeed guys. They were on something like an Interoperability Assessment and Suggestion Team (not really what it was called, but the same level of jargon goobymoron).
On a deployed main FOB there actually are a lot of pencil pushing DOD civilians and pencil pushing contractors, so these guys showing up in khakis and stuff was not out of place. Except of course they were way in shape. I wasn’t on a mega-FOB and by the time they got out to our somewhat satellite FOB the compound I was in was their destination. They brought us up to speed on certain things they needed help on and then we went. When they got dressed up they had the most absolute pimped out gear. I mean, I’d been embedded to support SEALs and I was a bit taken aback by some of the gear.
When these dudes were off mission they were very chill and hung out with us. They didn’t act like to it h guys because they had nothing to prove to anybody and no military nonsense in their chain of bosses.
CIA dude was actually also super chill. He was basically a guy who linked up with locals or linked up with people who linked up with locals for intel or weapons buybacks. He was more frustrated with conventional military guys butting in on his operations and being hard headed than by anything else.
Nothing gets a friendly nod and clearance faster on a base than saying OGA.
SAD sounds infinitely more tactical than SAC
SAD is comprised of multiple specific units. Agency org structure goes Directorate, comprised of Divisions, made up of Groups. What k/ommados always refer to as SAD usually is SAD/GB (Ground Branch), who are Paramilitary Officers not Case Officers like the typical spooks.
I would never go so far as to say I love the cia but I do enjoy the fact that they drive terror into the hearts of muslims and other sordid third world shitholers.
My understanding is that the cia works very closely with SOF units all over the world providing them with intel, mission sets, etc. Thus the agency wants guys who can integrate with sof units out on ops if need be.
DIA has case officers like the CIA. DoD has multiple elements doing what GB does which is why Trump had prohibited the Agency from doing paramilitary ops independent of DoD. DoD always has provided support to agency ops like QRF’s, SOAR, etc.
They are, they are just assigned to GB and do tacticool stuff. The closest thing to a direct action element. I wasn’t in SAD but worked with them at times. I knew a guy who was former SF/Arabic linguist and comms and he got direct hired into GB fast as fuck.
3 weeks ago
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>I wasn’t in SAD but worked with them at times.
Are you allowed to to disclose what you did?
3 weeks ago
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Not him but often its not that deep.
Sometimes you prepare for a mission with the guy who actually found out the reasons (along with other office workers) to conduct the mission. Having 1 guy on the ground during the mission you planned helps with contingencies.
3 weeks ago
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I was a PSDfag. I was a declared employee bc I had to interact with other agencies and nations. I even had business cards.
I want that sign in my garage. And then I want an armored car to park under it.
I can suggest something in the $500k range (in GWOT Y2K dollars).
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Forgot pic.
https://i.imgur.com/BgJQcAj.jpg
You sure what I've read suggests that there was usually one or two CIA guys on a ODA. Also attached doesn't mean it's a permanent thing.
I started as a contractor on the ops side and was embedded full time with JSOC.
How does one become an operator in the CIA SAD?
Operate operationally with the .mil. But also have useful things they look for in case officers like language, overseas living experience, special nerd skills.
3 weeks ago
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I always thought the G-Class looked like they came armored stock, makes sense somebody actually did the work at some point.
3 weeks ago
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Nope, I had a G55 AMG which did feel like a solid truck, but it did not have full armor including undercarriage. Many VIP type armored cars come from the factory with ballistic protection in doors and windows but not 360, not air sealed against germs and not rated for an undercarriage IED. The full armor package means the interior shrinks from all the room the armor takes (see windshield compared to my old pimpmobile).
3 weeks ago
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https://i.imgur.com/3KzdhBl.jpg
Forgot pic.
[...]
I started as a contractor on the ops side and was embedded full time with JSOC.
[...]
Operate operationally with the .mil. But also have useful things they look for in case officers like language, overseas living experience, special nerd skills.
So uh what pipeline did you go through?
3 weeks ago
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I was a former cop and a fed agent in another agency doing PSD work but any Fed job where you have the clearance is a big up. >inb4 cops are gay>
Picrel with Tommy Gun at academy range. Inspectors were first feds to have them. >FBI seethes>
3 weeks ago
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>a fed agent in another agency doing PSD work
Are you allowed to tell us what agency?
3 weeks ago
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Sorry am retard. I meant that reply for the thread on USPS. I was a cop and then got hired as a contractor for the agency doing Intel stuff which is how I learned about the protective ops job. I was hired during a rare window where they wanted some non-Tier 1 guys to round out the teams. This is bc the operators like to operate but when you’re doing protection you don’t stick around and engage if you can evac. I was super Heckin’ lucky. A LOT of options are available once you are in regardless of job.
3 weeks ago
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>USPS
Who do you do personal protection for in the fucking Postal Service? Mailmen in the hood?
3 weeks ago
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>He doesn't know
?si=F4Quxomi-ocmMzrQ
My friend’s cousin was valedictorian and top athlete at his highschool and also learned flawless Spanish in his four years. I don’t know much about his college years, but he now has some sort of job he can’t even tell his wife about. He has to be some sort of glowie right?
3 weeks ago
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I did protection for the agency this thread is about. I left and went to the postal inspectors bc I wanted an 1811 gig. I mostly worked WMD/explosives and was on the marshals fugitive task force if that’s ok?
>He doesn't know
?si=F4Quxomi-ocmMzrQ[...]
They used to be called the Silent Service bc any publicity would be negative PR for big postal. That’s was before my time.
3 weeks ago
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>I mostly worked WMD/explosives
Wat?
3 weeks ago
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3 weeks ago
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This guy's job was to shake the packages flagged as "probably a pipe bomb"
3 weeks ago
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>shake package> ngmi
Retards mail some crazy shit.
3 weeks ago
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Of course you shake the package. How else are you supposed to know what's in there? It's just one of those things you do if you want it done right. You know, like twanging the strap you just cinched down and declaring definitively "that's not going anywhere."
3 weeks ago
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Or giving a couple taps on a precarious semi trailer before the driver pulls away.
3 weeks ago
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Of course you shake the package. How else are you supposed to know what's in there? It's just one of those things you do if you want it done right. You know, like twanging the strap you just cinched down and declaring definitively "that's not going anywhere."
these guys get it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
slightly off topic, but my local usps office is a total mess and they are too lazy to deliver packages, lose/steal mail, and are general shitbags (its pretty obvious why, but...) Is there anything I can do to get USPIS to come in and investigate them? we were thinking of sending gun to myself and when they dont deliver it, get ATF involved or something.
3 weeks ago
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USPS OIG would handle employee related matters except assault. Of you go there and ask to speak to the carrier supervisor you will do better than the 800 #.
3 weeks ago
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Hey anon I have some questions
There are some positions in the CIA that I have no real idea what they do. Those being
Targeting Officer
Specialized Skills Officer
Staff Operations Officer
Collection Management Officer
Support Integration Officer
What do these guys even do? Their descriptions are really vague.
3 weeks ago
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Which is the one I apply to if I want to be a professional gangstalker?
3 weeks ago
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That's the first patch I've ever seen that I actually want. Where'd you get it?
>I've been curious about doing DoD work as a civilian on some projects
It’s consistently rated as the worst/most toxic department of the government to work for. Also due to its size, the DOD has an especially slow/cumbersome bureaucracy even by federal government standards.
There is a reason the the turnover rate for civilian contractors is so high, and it isn't the pay.
If you like all the worst parts of corp work life coupled with all the worst parts of gov. work as well as having a new incompetent boss every 6 months you will fit right in.
Sometimes you get to stay in horrid 3rd world shitholes too, which is actually a highlight compared to stateside work.
Well also veteran's preference is such a huge factor in which people aren't automatically screened out that the pool of people who would actually fit the job is drastically reduced. I have always found that working for State is better.
Deployments in general get people. I worked for FEMA for a while too and it's pretty rough for married folks even when they're still stateside.
I will never be disappointed by the fact that majority of CIA agents are normal looking people in collared shirts that look like nerds. These are the same people that overthrow governments and get access to war plans from Russia's top military brass.
They renamed it the Special Activities Center back in 2016, I'm guessing they figured out that calling your ultra-spooky paramilitary unit SAD doesn't do wonders for morale
Yes I know they're defunct and running under a different name now, but if you tell someone about "SAC" they're going to think of nuclear holocaust, not spooky glowmoron shit.
>They renamed it the Special Activities Center back in 2016, I'm guessing they figured out that calling your ultra-spooky paramilitary unit SAD doesn't do wonders for morale
it was just because of a larger Agency wide reorganization
Ground Branch also got a new name and abbreviation too
I would never go so far as to say I love the cia but I do enjoy the fact that they drive terror into the hearts of muslims and other sordid third world shitholers.
My understanding is that the cia works very closely with SOF units all over the world providing them with intel, mission sets, etc. Thus the agency wants guys who can integrate with sof units out on ops if need be.
>They run the Taliban >Believing Brownoid cope that was created when they got into a skirmish with Iran because they couldn't accept that their heckin wholesome multipolar world order isn't just everyone sucking each other off
A friend of mine got invited to an interview by some glowie because if his "unique" background. They want people who can blend in so a Sudanese/Hispanic guy passes for all sorts of brown and speaks Arabic, Spanish and Swahili is probably a catch. He took a banking job instead but man if that was me I would've taken it.
Mossad is better. Successful assassinations in developed countries while avoiding LEOs, successfully stealing multiple submarines from France (lol), tons of intel from the Soviets they gave to the US, infiltrated South Africa's nuclear program, got people inside Syria's nuclear reactor, multiple successful daylight assassinations inside Iran including off of motorcycles during rush hour.
And according to the Arabs, they did the entire Arab Spring. They also did the past year of riots in Iran. And they rigged the 2020 election and allegedly did both sides of the Ukraine War.
It's hard to argue that they aren't the best intelligence agency (not the same thing though) when their enemies are all so completely mind broken by them behind literally everything.
Well also veteran's preference is such a huge factor in which people aren't automatically screened out that the pool of people who would actually fit the job is drastically reduced. I have always found that working for State is better.
Deployments in general get people. I worked for FEMA for a while too and it's pretty rough for married folks even when they're still stateside.
deployments are a big reason why PSD/WPS turned me off was being away from so long, no DOS/DOD contracts had a schedule that appealed to me otherwise i would have done it more
I mean, if we're going by rent-free space occupied, the CIA's back in contention. Every lefty in the US, a fair number in Europe, and most of Central and South America blame them for everything "bad" that's happened since the end of WWII.
At least the US is a huge country with tons of economic heft and resources. Then fucking over Latin America is at least a bit more plausible than "da Joos!!!" who have the population of a single large city, secretly running world history.
I mean, "elites wanted migrants because they work for cheap and more people = the housing units they own are worth more," is a fairly obvious explanation of why the US embraced mass migration. But tons of people embrace "it was the garden gnomes seeking to destroy us," as the more logical explanation.
The funniest result of 4chanshit I've ever heard is that single Chinese women have been seeking out Ashkenazim sperm donors because all the 4chanshit and antisemitism throughout Western history has convinced them that garden gnomes are essentially a super race. Which, if you read 4chan as a dispassionate outsider, you would definitely come to that conclusion considering how magical they make them out to be lol.
What? Clandestine shit is suppose to be secret, the fact that everyone seems to know about mossad ops shows that they are not very good at being discrete.
>Every memoir I've read including the one pictured talks about how incompetent the CIA were.
I'm not saying they necessarily were or weren't, but consider the possibility of sampling bias: by definition, everything that got FUBARed enough that news of it leaked was, by definition, not among their most successful moments. Wasn't there a thing where covert agents who disliked each other would smile and say "I hope I read about you in the papers" as a classier version of "fuck you"?
>You sure what I've read suggests that there was usually one or two CIA guys on a ODA.
I've never read that, and I read a few books about the invasion of Afghanistan from both perspectives.
>Also attached doesn't mean it's a permanent thing.
When I think attached I think someone that goes on missions with the team for the entire deployment. For example the dog handler that was on Extortion 17 was attached to ST6 and went on every mission with them. They saw each other everyday, work together, ate together, slept together. That is attachment.
Some guy you see maybe once a week isn't attached.
>When I think attached I think someone that goes on missions with the team for the entire deployment
I don't think attached has to be for an entire deployment. It just means a member of a group works with a different group. Like JTACs or 24STS working with Rangers or SEALs.
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>Like JTACs or 24STS working with Rangers or SEALs.
They are on every mission together.
3 weeks ago
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>Like JTACs or 24STS
Those guys are the definition of attachment. They train with the unit they deploy with and they go on every mission. They even wear Army patches after a deployment.
>Billy on the left
So cool. Just read SOG by John L. Plaster and he's got some cool stories in there >Waugh conducted the first combat High Altitude, Low Opening (HALO) jump
Such a crazy life
I noticed how the anti cia people are
1. Vague
2. Schizophrenic and think we understand their weird tangents they never fully explain
3. Believe is crazy shit that was shown decades ago to be fake like ops statement
4. Green text everything
5. And have no idea how the cia actually works. Like at a basic level.
Who is in charge, how is it checked, how is it fundef, none of it they have no idea without looking it up mid argument
Which means they are brown or suburban white trash
how is this important to anyone whove they rotared in to be the face of the organization. If anything your argument is a classic distraction from the agency its peformance as a whole.
Imagine it's 2
1938
Some Indian or racist piece of shit from conservative states starts arguing with you
Says Nazis are great people and then rants about garden gnomes for an hour
So you ask
"Who is this Hitler fellow"
And
My friend’s cousin was valedictorian and top athlete at his highschool and also learned flawless Spanish in his four years. I don’t know much about his college years, but he now has some sort of job he can’t even tell his wife about. He has to be some sort of glowie right?
>have blank check to destabilize and otherwise fuck with foreign countries and your own citizenry >an hero your enemies >waterboard sand people >steal, destroy, sabotage, kill all the things >pump poor areas full of crack and other paraphernalia >troll midwit civilians and low level politicians with choreographed happenings >do it all just for the lulz
Based. I love the USA
I've noticed a recent effort in the astroturfed YouTube e-cleb world (i.e. propaganda platform) to soften the public's perception of the CIA. That clown Bustamante is making the rounds. They've also got some muscle man claiming to be a former shooter for them and I'm sure there are others. It's all mendacity. They're using applied linguistics (looking at you Chomsky) to attempt this. Nothing really new here. I'm not sure how well it's working. My best advice is that if it feels like a lie to your mind, it's probably best ignored. We were given the gift of perception for a reason.
I don't read him. I'm just aware of the existence of applied linguistics (lying) that he professes to be so well versed in. >why would they..blah blah blah >spooks
Nice strawman. I also didn't offer any theory on why they'd want to soften their perception. I also don't care. But I know when I see Company approved channels (Mike Glover, Shawn Ryan, etc) giving platforms to these people, it's best to tune out the messaging altogether. Do whatever you want man. Carry water for the clandestine services. Have a blast.
Having a positive reputation is necessary to for recruiting both employees and assets. That's why the SIS try to convince to work for them by telling people that their going to be like James Bond.
Gotta get those Berkeley, Yale, UCLA, and MIT recruits somehow. Hard to do that when you have a reputation for murdering people as high up as former DCI William Colby amirite? The message is clear: no loose ends. Pacification and Control is the name of the game. Can't be Pacified nor Controlled (or maybe you just got old and they're afraid you'll start dementia babbling)? Go to Bye-Bye Land motherfucker.
>Hard to do that when you have a reputation for murdering people as high up as former DCI William Colby amirite?
Your average normie who he is. Also he was like 76 years old when he died.
>doesn't know who he is
You're correct, I didn't consider that. They know who Charlie Miles Maddox (Manson), Abigail Folger, Leno LaBianca, and Sharon Tate were though. Oh yes they do. A few of those people were done in Gladio style (by the sword). Oh yes they were.
3 weeks ago
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>Bringing up Mason murders and Gladio
Keep on going I need to fill up my schizo bingo card
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The numbers, Mason. What do they mean???
3 weeks ago
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The sale numbers mean Treyarch will always be inferior to IW
Positive doesn't have to be soft. I'm pretty sure they want the glory seekers and the nerds, and everyone in between.
Would you suspect what looks like an elevator technician of being a spy? How about the bodybuilder at the gym? Or the geek squad wagie people ask to fix their porn infested tablets?
I don't read him. I'm just aware of the existence of applied linguistics (lying) that he professes to be so well versed in. >why would they..blah blah blah >spooks
Nice strawman. I also didn't offer any theory on why they'd want to soften their perception. I also don't care. But I know when I see Company approved channels (Mike Glover, Shawn Ryan, etc) giving platforms to these people, it's best to tune out the messaging altogether. Do whatever you want man. Carry water for the clandestine services. Have a blast.
I don't understand why it's hard for people to understand.
People like spook shit because it's cool and they want to LARP as James Bond or Snake. The shady shit just adds more mystery and intrigue.
Funny thing is spook shit I've encountered regardless of time period is always generic, cheap, crude, and janky looking since it's meant to be disposable and easy to destroy for maximum plausible deniability. It's also why it's so rare today.
No, the physical items part is what most LARPers get wrong. They think they get the gucciest of the gucci gear all the time, which isn't necessarily true. As a matter of fact military SF is more likely to get those than glowies. I mean look at the benghazi boomer that showed up in cheap 5.11 shit.
That's because people have been memed into thinking SAC is like some sort of tier 0 unit and now just case officers who are trained to deploy in warzones. Also the Benghazi guys were private contractors.
CIA spooks in reality: >hire the one or two intelligent special forces guys who somehow wind up in the fucking military every now and then >hire the one or two actually creative engineer types working for DoD contractors every now and then >use the massive reach of the state department to get the nastiest NSA electronics and their people overseas to do all sorts of mundane shit and every few years come up with some fulton recovery system-tier shit which will become public knowledge in 2-20 years
CIA spooks in gun dweebs' minds >muh 13 hours >muh delta recruitment pool >bullets solve international crises >look at this guy wearing a type 56 chest rig with his face censored lol based >I'm going MARSOC looking to get recruited in 5 years or so. What's that? Yes I'm 27 years old
They look like your typical fudd boomer at the range.
I'm guessing that's the point.
>DCU's
Based
>I love the CIA
Cringe
Dude. The CIA has never actually done anything wrong the more you dig into it. splinters pop up and get erased fast
Welcome to being an adult
>The CIA has never actually done anything wrong the more you dig into it.
What?
Their incompetence almost erased our planet, the mind control experiments, their meddling in Central American states, participation in petrodollar warfare, their torture camps.... nothing wrong?
No one cares gay I want to read about cool guys doing cool guy things like fucking Brownoids and Communists while expanding our sphere of influence
You are mentally ill if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen.
You are actively cheerleading the death of the democracy and rule of law.
You are either underage, a mentally ill freak or you are being paid to do this.
Maybe he's CIA himself
Maybe he is just a retard.
>bro that applies to literally every intelligence agency around the world
>>Oh no why isn't the government going to leak their top secret documents
Our intelligence agency has a yearly report on what have they been doing, they already admitted they have the capacity to listen in on a quarter of a million of our population.
Keep cheerleading the death of your country's ideology, freak.
Fuck off.
>if you support an organisation who's governing body states that looking into their work is against your own interests as a citizen
bro that applies to literally every intelligence agency around the world
>Oh no why isn't the government going to leak their top secret documents
Do you cum when your dad fists you?
Kinda based ngl
>Unironically recommending this
Blum is a socialist and Chomsky dick rider
NTA but I enjoy socialist seething over the DoD and CIA every now and then. The difference, of course, is they believe the world actually works like that and I fervently wish it were true.
>Their incompetence almost erased our planet
No I think that would be the guys that almost launched nukes do ti systems errors and whatnot
CIA is responsible for the build up of the nuclear weapons which lead to those situations.
When they were created, they were ran by utter retards that could not understand or infiltrate the Soviet Union so they lied to the President of the United States to indicate that they know more than the military that assessed the USSR's ICBM fleet to be no more than half a dozen.
Are you implying that if we didn't build nukes that Soviets who magically also stop making nukes? Also a decent amount of the close calls happened in the USSR.
Well anon
I see your Vague gay babble and raise you a "go fuck yourself and learn to be specific"
Go back to pol you bitch ass pussy
So you concede that you don't have arguments?
Is it really that bad?
At most it just sounds mildly uncomfortable
Replied to wrong post
Just ignore
Sounds like your diaper is full
>zogbots
Yawn.
But they are not fighting for russia
>Imperialism
:/
>Imperialism Russia
:O
>imperialism russia
8==D O:
>muh russia
You can hate both you know
Fuck amerimutts
Fuck russmutts
Post outlet war tourist
Based.
Fuck feds, garden gnomes and amerimutts who comply.
What does that have to do with this thread, you dysgenic freak crossposter?
Mossad is miles ahead of anything the CIA will ever produce sweety.
to kill people.
CIA is aight. I met some cool but frustrated dudes. Spookiest dudes I ever met were DOD civilians in boring or vaguely named projects.
What, you meet G-man or something?
tell me more, I've been curious about doing DoD work as a civilian on some projects
Well they were mostly DOD civilians who had formerly been take-your-pick-of-highspeed guys. They were on something like an Interoperability Assessment and Suggestion Team (not really what it was called, but the same level of jargon goobymoron).
On a deployed main FOB there actually are a lot of pencil pushing DOD civilians and pencil pushing contractors, so these guys showing up in khakis and stuff was not out of place. Except of course they were way in shape. I wasn’t on a mega-FOB and by the time they got out to our somewhat satellite FOB the compound I was in was their destination. They brought us up to speed on certain things they needed help on and then we went. When they got dressed up they had the most absolute pimped out gear. I mean, I’d been embedded to support SEALs and I was a bit taken aback by some of the gear.
When these dudes were off mission they were very chill and hung out with us. They didn’t act like to it h guys because they had nothing to prove to anybody and no military nonsense in their chain of bosses.
CIA dude was actually also super chill. He was basically a guy who linked up with locals or linked up with people who linked up with locals for intel or weapons buybacks. He was more frustrated with conventional military guys butting in on his operations and being hard headed than by anything else.
>DoD unit
Huh. Didnt imsgine that line of work being a thing
Nothing gets a friendly nod and clearance faster on a base than saying OGA.
SAD is comprised of multiple specific units. Agency org structure goes Directorate, comprised of Divisions, made up of Groups. What k/ommados always refer to as SAD usually is SAD/GB (Ground Branch), who are Paramilitary Officers not Case Officers like the typical spooks.
DIA has case officers like the CIA. DoD has multiple elements doing what GB does which is why Trump had prohibited the Agency from doing paramilitary ops independent of DoD. DoD always has provided support to agency ops like QRF’s, SOAR, etc.
>who are Paramilitary Officers not Case Officers like the typical spooks.
Aren't PMOOs also case officers? It's literally in the name.
They are, they are just assigned to GB and do tacticool stuff. The closest thing to a direct action element. I wasn’t in SAD but worked with them at times. I knew a guy who was former SF/Arabic linguist and comms and he got direct hired into GB fast as fuck.
>I wasn’t in SAD but worked with them at times.
Are you allowed to to disclose what you did?
Not him but often its not that deep.
Sometimes you prepare for a mission with the guy who actually found out the reasons (along with other office workers) to conduct the mission. Having 1 guy on the ground during the mission you planned helps with contingencies.
I was a PSDfag. I was a declared employee bc I had to interact with other agencies and nations. I even had business cards.
I can suggest something in the $500k range (in GWOT Y2K dollars).
Forgot pic.
I started as a contractor on the ops side and was embedded full time with JSOC.
Operate operationally with the .mil. But also have useful things they look for in case officers like language, overseas living experience, special nerd skills.
I always thought the G-Class looked like they came armored stock, makes sense somebody actually did the work at some point.
Nope, I had a G55 AMG which did feel like a solid truck, but it did not have full armor including undercarriage. Many VIP type armored cars come from the factory with ballistic protection in doors and windows but not 360, not air sealed against germs and not rated for an undercarriage IED. The full armor package means the interior shrinks from all the room the armor takes (see windshield compared to my old pimpmobile).
So uh what pipeline did you go through?
I was a former cop and a fed agent in another agency doing PSD work but any Fed job where you have the clearance is a big up.
>inb4 cops are gay>
Picrel with Tommy Gun at academy range. Inspectors were first feds to have them.
>FBI seethes>
>a fed agent in another agency doing PSD work
Are you allowed to tell us what agency?
Sorry am retard. I meant that reply for the thread on USPS. I was a cop and then got hired as a contractor for the agency doing Intel stuff which is how I learned about the protective ops job. I was hired during a rare window where they wanted some non-Tier 1 guys to round out the teams. This is bc the operators like to operate but when you’re doing protection you don’t stick around and engage if you can evac. I was super Heckin’ lucky. A LOT of options are available once you are in regardless of job.
>USPS
Who do you do personal protection for in the fucking Postal Service? Mailmen in the hood?
>He doesn't know
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I did protection for the agency this thread is about. I left and went to the postal inspectors bc I wanted an 1811 gig. I mostly worked WMD/explosives and was on the marshals fugitive task force if that’s ok?
They used to be called the Silent Service bc any publicity would be negative PR for big postal. That’s was before my time.
>I mostly worked WMD/explosives
Wat?
This guy's job was to shake the packages flagged as "probably a pipe bomb"
>shake package> ngmi
Retards mail some crazy shit.
Of course you shake the package. How else are you supposed to know what's in there? It's just one of those things you do if you want it done right. You know, like twanging the strap you just cinched down and declaring definitively "that's not going anywhere."
Or giving a couple taps on a precarious semi trailer before the driver pulls away.
these guys get it
slightly off topic, but my local usps office is a total mess and they are too lazy to deliver packages, lose/steal mail, and are general shitbags (its pretty obvious why, but...) Is there anything I can do to get USPIS to come in and investigate them? we were thinking of sending gun to myself and when they dont deliver it, get ATF involved or something.
USPS OIG would handle employee related matters except assault. Of you go there and ask to speak to the carrier supervisor you will do better than the 800 #.
Hey anon I have some questions
There are some positions in the CIA that I have no real idea what they do. Those being
Targeting Officer
Specialized Skills Officer
Staff Operations Officer
Collection Management Officer
Support Integration Officer
What do these guys even do? Their descriptions are really vague.
Which is the one I apply to if I want to be a professional gangstalker?
That's the first patch I've ever seen that I actually want. Where'd you get it?
https://amaesingdecals.myshopify.com/products/postal-mailers-laser-cut-patches
I want that sign in my garage. And then I want an armored car to park under it.
>I've been curious about doing DoD work as a civilian on some projects
It’s consistently rated as the worst/most toxic department of the government to work for. Also due to its size, the DOD has an especially slow/cumbersome bureaucracy even by federal government standards.
t. fed
>It’s consistently rated as the worst/most toxic department of the government to work for.
DHS would like a word
There is a reason the the turnover rate for civilian contractors is so high, and it isn't the pay.
If you like all the worst parts of corp work life coupled with all the worst parts of gov. work as well as having a new incompetent boss every 6 months you will fit right in.
Sometimes you get to stay in horrid 3rd world shitholes too, which is actually a highlight compared to stateside work.
Well also veteran's preference is such a huge factor in which people aren't automatically screened out that the pool of people who would actually fit the job is drastically reduced. I have always found that working for State is better.
Deployments in general get people. I worked for FEMA for a while too and it's pretty rough for married folks even when they're still stateside.
I will never be disappointed by the fact that majority of CIA agents are normal looking people in collared shirts that look like nerds. These are the same people that overthrow governments and get access to war plans from Russia's top military brass.
The CIA used to be the good guys in Vietnam.
What happened?
Phoenix Program - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
Did you miss the articles posted here around the time we withdrew from Afghanistan revealing that we'd essentially revived the Phoenix Program?
Unfortunately I missed it, do you have any links?
https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/
This is the exact one I remember reading.
>The Intercept
You mean the site that sacked it's CEO because he didn't have TDS and whose articles just consist of
>America bad Thrid World good
Thanks
>good guys
>Phoenix Program
Oh boy.
Muh poor communists and rice farmerinos!!!
>rape using eels
h-hot
They renamed it the Special Activities Center back in 2016, I'm guessing they figured out that calling your ultra-spooky paramilitary unit SAD doesn't do wonders for morale
SAD sounds infinitely more tactical than SAC
SOG was better
SAC's already taken tbh.
Yes I know they're defunct and running under a different name now, but if you tell someone about "SAC" they're going to think of nuclear holocaust, not spooky glowmoron shit.
>They renamed it the Special Activities Center back in 2016, I'm guessing they figured out that calling your ultra-spooky paramilitary unit SAD doesn't do wonders for morale
it was just because of a larger Agency wide reorganization
Ground Branch also got a new name and abbreviation too
Biggest meme unit of all time
> Neverserved Nancy
why would an intelligence agency need special forces?
Wouldn't you like to know?
I would never go so far as to say I love the cia but I do enjoy the fact that they drive terror into the hearts of muslims and other sordid third world shitholers.
My understanding is that the cia works very closely with SOF units all over the world providing them with intel, mission sets, etc. Thus the agency wants guys who can integrate with sof units out on ops if need be.
To kidnap innocent durkas and torture them at black sites, of course. All hail the great Satan.
I wouldn't worry about it
That's a pic of ODA 555
Why did the CIA stopped hiring midget to be special forces like during the Vietnam war?
Because they Aren't needed and the criteria to join the CIA to do espionage shit is more broader now.
they pay the malnourished nationals to crawl into the tunnel complexes now, anon.
They run the Taliban. It's pretty awesome and more or less open. That foreign aid lol
>They run the Taliban
>Believing Brownoid cope that was created when they got into a skirmish with Iran because they couldn't accept that their heckin wholesome multipolar world order isn't just everyone sucking each other off
Thread theme, best version (you're welcome):
All glowies deserve painful death. TGD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda
>haha yes fellow friend, check out this wojak
>haha yeah, look at this ebin in-group frugg :DDD
>t. salty FBI fag upset because Female Body Inspector is the coolest thing attributable to his organization
For me, it's Tiger Force; the most based of war crime artists.
Amazing book but they were basically just a recon unit larping as green berets within an airborne infantry unit
A friend of mine got invited to an interview by some glowie because if his "unique" background. They want people who can blend in so a Sudanese/Hispanic guy passes for all sorts of brown and speaks Arabic, Spanish and Swahili is probably a catch. He took a banking job instead but man if that was me I would've taken it.
Mossad is better. Successful assassinations in developed countries while avoiding LEOs, successfully stealing multiple submarines from France (lol), tons of intel from the Soviets they gave to the US, infiltrated South Africa's nuclear program, got people inside Syria's nuclear reactor, multiple successful daylight assassinations inside Iran including off of motorcycles during rush hour.
You're forgetting 9/11, their most successful op.
And according to the Arabs, they did the entire Arab Spring. They also did the past year of riots in Iran. And they rigged the 2020 election and allegedly did both sides of the Ukraine War.
It's hard to argue that they aren't the best intelligence agency (not the same thing though) when their enemies are all so completely mind broken by them behind literally everything.
mossad infiltrated my mother
deployments are a big reason why PSD/WPS turned me off was being away from so long, no DOS/DOD contracts had a schedule that appealed to me otherwise i would have done it more
I mean, if we're going by rent-free space occupied, the CIA's back in contention. Every lefty in the US, a fair number in Europe, and most of Central and South America blame them for everything "bad" that's happened since the end of WWII.
Don’t forget all the flat earth and Qanon retards
At least the US is a huge country with tons of economic heft and resources. Then fucking over Latin America is at least a bit more plausible than "da Joos!!!" who have the population of a single large city, secretly running world history.
I mean, "elites wanted migrants because they work for cheap and more people = the housing units they own are worth more," is a fairly obvious explanation of why the US embraced mass migration. But tons of people embrace "it was the garden gnomes seeking to destroy us," as the more logical explanation.
Meds
The funniest result of 4chanshit I've ever heard is that single Chinese women have been seeking out Ashkenazim sperm donors because all the 4chanshit and antisemitism throughout Western history has convinced them that garden gnomes are essentially a super race. Which, if you read 4chan as a dispassionate outsider, you would definitely come to that conclusion considering how magical they make them out to be lol.
South Africa's nuclear program
>implying they didn't jumpstart South Africa's nuclear program
>garden gnomes working with Apartheid South Africa to help them nuke commies in Africa
What I love Israel now
You didn't know this? Why do you think South Africa is one of the only other countries to use the Galil as their primary infantry rifle?
I do know about it I was just making a joke
My bad. Humor's can be hard to gauge in text.
>mossad is better
>look at all these examples that are public knowledge
Lol, mossad is sloppy as fuck
You’ll have to bait harder or Gurion will visit in your sleep
What? Clandestine shit is suppose to be secret, the fact that everyone seems to know about mossad ops shows that they are not very good at being discrete.
Most of their work is only "known" by inference and assumption. Actual details of their operations are usually only spilled decades later.
>Ghost of Zionists Past haunts you if you don't post quality antisemitic bait
Spooky.
Plus 9/11
It wasn't submarines, it was fast attack boats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherbourg_Project
Also it relied heavily on the premise that France would just let the boats go rather than just sink them in the Mediterranean?
how many Marines would one of them destroy in unarmed CQC?
>CIA so cool you guys
>posts a pic of SF
It's both
During the invasion of Afghanistan you had ODA's that had some CIA guys attached to them
Every memoir I've read including the one pictured talks about how incompetent the CIA were.
>Every memoir I've read including the one pictured talks about how incompetent the CIA were.
I'm not saying they necessarily were or weren't, but consider the possibility of sampling bias: by definition, everything that got FUBARed enough that news of it leaked was, by definition, not among their most successful moments. Wasn't there a thing where covert agents who disliked each other would smile and say "I hope I read about you in the papers" as a classier version of "fuck you"?
>ODA's that had some CIA guys attached to them
I wouldn't say meeting up every once in a while to be "attached".
You sure what I've read suggests that there was usually one or two CIA guys on a ODA. Also attached doesn't mean it's a permanent thing.
>You sure what I've read suggests that there was usually one or two CIA guys on a ODA.
I've never read that, and I read a few books about the invasion of Afghanistan from both perspectives.
>Also attached doesn't mean it's a permanent thing.
When I think attached I think someone that goes on missions with the team for the entire deployment. For example the dog handler that was on Extortion 17 was attached to ST6 and went on every mission with them. They saw each other everyday, work together, ate together, slept together. That is attachment.
Some guy you see maybe once a week isn't attached.
>slept together
ghey
>When I think attached I think someone that goes on missions with the team for the entire deployment
I don't think attached has to be for an entire deployment. It just means a member of a group works with a different group. Like JTACs or 24STS working with Rangers or SEALs.
>Like JTACs or 24STS working with Rangers or SEALs.
They are on every mission together.
>Like JTACs or 24STS
Those guys are the definition of attachment. They train with the unit they deploy with and they go on every mission. They even wear Army patches after a deployment.
24th sts and CCT/TACP's are the real kings
why does the smalles twink get the biggest rifle and the dog
>Billy on the left
So cool. Just read SOG by John L. Plaster and he's got some cool stories in there
>Waugh conducted the first combat High Altitude, Low Opening (HALO) jump
Such a crazy life
This is pretty much what I wear at the construction site, barring the Afghan hats and keffiyeh bandanas.
green berets and construction guys are cut from the same flannel
How does one become an operator in the CIA SAD?
Go SERE school
>Rape every instructor
I noticed how the anti cia people are
1. Vague
2. Schizophrenic and think we understand their weird tangents they never fully explain
3. Believe is crazy shit that was shown decades ago to be fake like ops statement
4. Green text everything
5. And have no idea how the cia actually works. Like at a basic level.
Who is in charge, how is it checked, how is it fundef, none of it they have no idea without looking it up mid argument
Which means they are brown or suburban white trash
Quick you anti cia people
Without looking it up
Who is their top official
....... You don't know
how is this important to anyone whove they rotared in to be the face of the organization. If anything your argument is a classic distraction from the agency its peformance as a whole.
Imagine it's 2
1938
Some Indian or racist piece of shit from conservative states starts arguing with you
Says Nazis are great people and then rants about garden gnomes for an hour
So you ask
"Who is this Hitler fellow"
And
They don't know.....
That's this thread.
With magapede and browns
My friend’s cousin was valedictorian and top athlete at his highschool and also learned flawless Spanish in his four years. I don’t know much about his college years, but he now has some sort of job he can’t even tell his wife about. He has to be some sort of glowie right?
>have blank check to destabilize and otherwise fuck with foreign countries and your own citizenry
>an hero your enemies
>waterboard sand people
>steal, destroy, sabotage, kill all the things
>pump poor areas full of crack and other paraphernalia
>troll midwit civilians and low level politicians with choreographed happenings
>do it all just for the lulz
Based. I love the USA
I've noticed a recent effort in the astroturfed YouTube e-cleb world (i.e. propaganda platform) to soften the public's perception of the CIA. That clown Bustamante is making the rounds. They've also got some muscle man claiming to be a former shooter for them and I'm sure there are others. It's all mendacity. They're using applied linguistics (looking at you Chomsky) to attempt this. Nothing really new here. I'm not sure how well it's working. My best advice is that if it feels like a lie to your mind, it's probably best ignored. We were given the gift of perception for a reason.
>Unironically reads Chomsky
I don't read him. I'm just aware of the existence of applied linguistics (lying) that he professes to be so well versed in.
>why would they..blah blah blah
>spooks
Nice strawman. I also didn't offer any theory on why they'd want to soften their perception. I also don't care. But I know when I see Company approved channels (Mike Glover, Shawn Ryan, etc) giving platforms to these people, it's best to tune out the messaging altogether. Do whatever you want man. Carry water for the clandestine services. Have a blast.
Why would they want to soften the perception of the CIA. Being called spooks is an asset.
Having a positive reputation is necessary to for recruiting both employees and assets. That's why the SIS try to convince to work for them by telling people that their going to be like James Bond.
Gotta get those Berkeley, Yale, UCLA, and MIT recruits somehow. Hard to do that when you have a reputation for murdering people as high up as former DCI William Colby amirite? The message is clear: no loose ends. Pacification and Control is the name of the game. Can't be Pacified nor Controlled (or maybe you just got old and they're afraid you'll start dementia babbling)? Go to Bye-Bye Land motherfucker.
>Hard to do that when you have a reputation for murdering people as high up as former DCI William Colby amirite?
Your average normie who he is. Also he was like 76 years old when he died.
> who he is
*has no idea who he is
>doesn't know who he is
You're correct, I didn't consider that. They know who Charlie Miles Maddox (Manson), Abigail Folger, Leno LaBianca, and Sharon Tate were though. Oh yes they do. A few of those people were done in Gladio style (by the sword). Oh yes they were.
>Bringing up Mason murders and Gladio
Keep on going I need to fill up my schizo bingo card
The numbers, Mason. What do they mean???
The sale numbers mean Treyarch will always be inferior to IW
Positive doesn't have to be soft. I'm pretty sure they want the glory seekers and the nerds, and everyone in between.
Would you suspect what looks like an elevator technician of being a spy? How about the bodybuilder at the gym? Or the geek squad wagie people ask to fix their porn infested tablets?
Sorry new recruit. I meant to quote you in
I don't understand why it's hard for people to understand.
People like spook shit because it's cool and they want to LARP as James Bond or Snake. The shady shit just adds more mystery and intrigue.
Funny thing is spook shit I've encountered regardless of time period is always generic, cheap, crude, and janky looking since it's meant to be disposable and easy to destroy for maximum plausible deniability. It's also why it's so rare today.
I'm not talking about physical items
No, the physical items part is what most LARPers get wrong. They think they get the gucciest of the gucci gear all the time, which isn't necessarily true. As a matter of fact military SF is more likely to get those than glowies. I mean look at the benghazi boomer that showed up in cheap 5.11 shit.
That's because people have been memed into thinking SAC is like some sort of tier 0 unit and now just case officers who are trained to deploy in warzones. Also the Benghazi guys were private contractors.
> now
*not
CIA spooks in reality:
>hire the one or two intelligent special forces guys who somehow wind up in the fucking military every now and then
>hire the one or two actually creative engineer types working for DoD contractors every now and then
>use the massive reach of the state department to get the nastiest NSA electronics and their people overseas to do all sorts of mundane shit and every few years come up with some fulton recovery system-tier shit which will become public knowledge in 2-20 years
CIA spooks in gun dweebs' minds
>muh 13 hours
>muh delta recruitment pool
>bullets solve international crises
>look at this guy wearing a type 56 chest rig with his face censored lol based
>I'm going MARSOC looking to get recruited in 5 years or so. What's that? Yes I'm 27 years old
Whats the matter gay, recruitment numbers down? CIA are subhuman traitor gays, and every one of them that dies is a benefit for the nation.
How’s Robotyne doing?
>Canadian
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/571kKK8bs2f8ImWE4_90ag/
Those are some really hard hitting replies anon. I'm not sure how military personnel will recover from this
Here's an actual pic of some SAD guys with some military, the fisherman's vest was kinda their thing for awhile.
What if I am a business/finance guy who has the ability to get access to other governments via said business - can I join the CIA part time?