>lol it kinda looks like balls
Or like a traditional Georgian dish called khinkali - "meat dumplings".
Kinda ironic, given that the Georgian Legion is currently fighting in Bakhmut.
) tends to be a little behind on updates, but it's a pro-Ukrainian source, so if some grand Ukrainian victory isn't on there, I wager to guess it might not be real
The impartial side of me doesn't want to believe it until hard proven.. but Pajeets and Serbs went absolutely ballistic last night, so I suspect somethings up.
>the russopig squeals loudly in hysteric panic as the cauldron gets hot to the touch...but the master chef is here to finish the cooking and turns the heat higher
other is ukkie with same last name https://www.instagram.com/tomovyov/?hl=en
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
inb4 denial from these to fags
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>just starts making stuff up
This is what Russia is fighting for number 2, leader pf the Russian armed forces. No wonder Russians are getting slaughtered.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Forgot the fags video.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
geezus fuck, this guy was commander of the SSO for years
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nice anon do you have uncensored?
please
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I defer to your superior experience in gayry.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/rtpZTWm.jpg
>polchud instantly recognizes a chud and posts his insta
Holy shit you can’t make this up!
i just typed out the article from here and saw the correction
https://i.imgur.com/2oKjfV8.jpg
>denial
We are at stage 1
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>polchud instantly recognizes a chud and posts his insta
Holy shit you can’t make this up!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Bothering trying to disprive the sun of all tabloids
Why even bother lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>denial
We are at stage 1
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the sun
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I already posted that it's not the same guy retard
[...]
other is ukkie with same last name https://www.instagram.com/tomovyov/?hl=en
can that germ cuck off himself already? he's been concerntrolling all war with gibberish and it distracts from both fun vatnik screeching and actual reporting
Röpcke is also less informed. The guy literally started out his career as a "journalist" by reporting what different twitter accounts were posting about the Syrian war.
>TWITTER OFFENSIVE, NO PROOFS UKROPS CAULDRONED OUR BREAKTHROUGH
Is there proof that a breakthrough even happened? Is this some Ukrainian having a piss take off of vatnik propaganda, like the "Repelled SAS Amphibious Assault" vid from the summer/fall?
You discord chuds actually thought taking over PrepHole was some notable feat
But at the end of it all, you still can't even into meme
All you have is some low traffic echochamber board on PrepHole riddled with innefectual glowies
It's pathetic
CNN is more impactful than you fags
I occasionally make a meta thread asking the mods to ban all vatnik IPs, and also auto ban anyone who visits 4chan from all other boards for 3 days from their last visit. i think this will solve all of PrepHoles problems. 4chan will finally be a real containment board.
alas, my threads get deleted.
>Pole sources only >Source is t. my sources >A couple hours later already claimed it might not be successful
But >Wolski and some other accounts today said Ukies still have position on the road effectively still holding a salient
I have no idea what to think of it. Smelled like some bullshit that never happened before, but some people are still digging deeper into it. I am not expecting actual footage too fast, but if there isn't any in a couple of days it's definitely bullshit.
>vatnigs come up with some Twitter counter-offensive that Ukrainians are supposed to commence >no official sources/statements at all >The offensive doesn't happen and now it's our job to disprove the disinformation that vatnigs have started
PrepHole is more interested on the facts on the ground, because it's much more interesting to see how the weapon systems involved were implemented. Doesn't really matter about the ideologies of who's using them at the end of the day.
Ideologues, however, see the weaponry as incidental and, because of their autism, are anally devastated that some people don't immediately line up into one worldview or another. PrepHole wants to see who's kicking who's ass, and with what sized boot. And right now, the Ukies are doing a LOT of kicking.
PrepHole here, I want to see endless dead Russians after decades of "UNSTOPPABLE RUSSIA LISBON TWO WEEKS XAXAXA TONGO TONGO SU-57 BURY F22 WITH NUKE DICK"
Everyday citizens with squad weapons vs. mechanized columns bearing pillage, rape, and oppression. It really shouldn't have been hard to guess which side PrepHole would support.
>And right now, the Ukies are doing a LOT of kicking.
Delirious. Delusional. Convicts are materially refuting western weapons irl and you still think Ukraine is doing anything but being btfo werk after week?
Russia is advancing while showering the dwindling ukrainian defences with artillery, that's what's happening. Is that winning? Kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can you show me a map of all the gains Russia has made in the past 12 months? It couldn't be that they've actually lost territory!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>advancing slowly
yes, extremely slowly >dwindling ukranian defenses
if they were really doing that they'd be advancing a lot faster
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if they were really doing that they'd be advancing a lot faster
What do you mean? The Russians' rate of advance increased dramatically over the winter. They're up to nearly a kilometer per month in some places!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're absolutely right. But somehow, that's even worse.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
puccia is advancing backwards LOL
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I miss the times when readovka was posting daily maps of gains and stopped right before russians lost kherson
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>chudsistria is still red
They're asking for it!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Russia is advancing
Russia lost more than 60% of their post-February 24th gains last year. They currently only hold 13% of Ukraine--- and they started the war with 10%. >Is that winning?
I don't know, but I can tell you what's not winning: peaking 32 days into a 369 day war when you've been attacking the entire time.
>redditors parroting cringe one-liners
Exactly. They had better watch out because General Armageddon only has to raise his eyebrow and the roast piggies will get cauldroned.
>2nd army in the world >5 mass mobilizations >8 years of preparation >surprise-invading the poorest and the most corrupt country in Europe led by a literal comedian >second year into a three-day special operation >still lose
not like this zsisters
Oh no they taught them how to do jumping jacks and gave them 5 NLAWS and 3 Javelins oh no. Let's be real, NATO's involvement in Ukraine the past 8 years has been abismal.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then explain why russia is so goddamn bad at their job?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Russia is bad. That's independent of Ukraine getting some NATO sjts showing ukie soldiers how to do pushups properly. That being said, once the war started, yes NATO has been of invaluable help to Ukraine with intel, gear, supplies, and now heavy vehicles.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even more corruption than Ukraine, zero morale, zero ability to do anything besides rape
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Chechens didn't need outside help to clown on them. The 2008 invasion of Georgia wasn't a rousing success either. The Russian military just objectively sucks. It relies on mass, indiscriminate brutality, and a willingness to take casualties. If the war lasts longer than a few weeks, that combination leads to pyrrhic victories like Chechnya or catastrophic losses like Chechnya (again) or Afghanistan. There's no third outcome.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Chechens fought guerilla warfare, with charismatic fighters who could lead a platoon to make constant offensive operations. Ukrainians still fight in the rigid soviet fashion of a slugging match, which doesn't favor Ukraine in the long run. Yes, the bigger picture is Russia is also demographically destroying itself with this war, but that doesn't help Ukraine get its territory back in the medium term.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"Ukrainians still fight in the rigid soviet fashion of a slugging match" >Kharkiv offensive involved baiting troops to Kherson and exploiting the lower manpower concentration >Kherson offensive involved degrading enemy logistics to reduce their inherent defensive advantage
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA but I think he meant on the tactical level not the strategic level
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They believed their own propaganda.
They thought their army was prepared to conduct an invasion of this scale.
And because they're dumb and corrupt.
>nato has been grooming the hohols for 8 years >When US and NATO are yelling at Zelensky that Russia is going to attack he decides to ignore it hoping they wouldn't
Great fucking grooming right there, guys
Really best argument against Ukraine being wholly controlled by NATO is that Poroshenko didn't get reelected, he's literally everything vatniks accuse Zelensky of being, as he was a nationalistic millionaire oligarch who presided over bombing of Donbass before it became a frozen conflict with occasional skirmishes
>globohomo >fighting against gay trench blowjob army with gay rape as a part of its official military doctrine >fighting against a country more multicultural than Sweden with a higher HIV rate than Somalia
hahahahahah russian localhomo is more homo than globohomo
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just so you know, the homo in globohomo means homogenisation, not gayry. It's just kindve a coincidence that globalists all avocate for universal acceptance of sodomy too.
But yes, russia is a den of buttfucking degenerates.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>posting same image again
https://i.imgur.com/h3Na7nf.png
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They probably all share same set provided by employee.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
they do it for free
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They probably all share same set provided by employee.
>posting same image again
[...]
>seething brown schizos so desperate they monitor every ukraine thread on PrepHole
do not redeem sirs hahahahaha
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They'll stop posting it when it stops being humiliating (i.e. never).
>yfw battle of bakmut ends with Russians getting encircled
>Putin: I want to be known for a great victory like Stalingrad! >*Monkey paw curls* >Putin: Huh. I wonder why I keep getting handcramps? I eat bananas every day.
>most corrupt country in Europe
Woah! Hey buddy! We dont talk about that here! All of that aid gets exactly where it needs to go and if you question that then your a fifth columnist vatmoron buddy!
considering the ukrainian corruption was russian in nature, you'd think russia could skim a little of the top instead of relying on iran, NK and china for their munitions shortages
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ukrainian corruption was russian in nature
Finally someone whos not a complete retard. >Because you can't come up with a good faith questioning
Everything you dont want to talk about is in bad faith conveniently. I can link you to articles that talk about rampant corruption in ukraine all you want. The ukrainians were soviets for a long time. They have way more in common with russian culture than anyone qants to admit. Refusing to talk about it because im "questioning in bad faith" is a way of dodging the question to obscure the truth "in bad faith"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Everything you dont want to talk about is in bad faith conveniently
Not really, is that you can't point to specifics. >I can link you to articles that talk about rampant corruption in ukraine all you want. The ukrainians were soviets for a long time. They have way more in common with russian culture than anyone qants to admit.
That is all fine. However, you want to talk about specifics and then walk back to generalities. Sure, Ukraine has corruption. But if they were corrupt to the point that they'd be selling the weapons they need, then they'd be losing pretty bad. They were Soviets for a long time. But this time the neo-Soviets have come for them. During the Soviet times you steal because everything is "not my problem". Now if you're in the Ukrainian military and stealing from your own stockpiles, you can get killed. Now it's your problem. >Refusing to talk about it because im "questioning in bad faith" is a way of dodging the question to obscure the truth "in bad faith"
Nobody is refusing to talk about anything. The problem is that "Ukraine is corrupt" is all you have. Okay, but can you actually point to all these weapons that are being shipped to other countries? Oh, a blurry video filmed by an Assadist pretending to be a Syrian "moderate rebel" showing FALs and M16A1s? Oh, the "Thief" photos where a piece of paper is photoshopped into screengrabs from the internet and posted on le ebil scawy deep web?
When this pattern of behavior is consistent and nobody ever deviates, we know it's a psyop rather than an actual conversation.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nobody is refusing to talk about anything. The problem is that "Ukraine is corrupt" is all you have.
Ok. Lets get specific.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/senior-ukrainian-officials-depart-amid-corruption-crackdown-96627588 >On Sunday, a deputy infrastructure minister, Vasyl Lozynsky, was fired for alleged participation in a network embezzling budget funds. Ukraine’s anti-corruption agency detained him while he was receiving a $400,000 bribe for helping to fix contracts for restoring facilities battered by Russian missile strikes, according to Infrastructure Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov. >“It’s very hard to save the country when there’s a lot of corruption,” Andrii Borovyk, the executive director of Transparency International Ukraine, a nonprofit organization that fights corruption, told The Associated Press. >Transparency International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136. >Entrenched corruption long has made foreign investors and governments wary of doing business with Ukraine.
Do I need to be more specific? I can google it again and find more examples. Just let me know when ive crossed the threshhold of "good faith" so we can talk about reality.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>$400,000 bribe for helping to fix contracts for restoring facilities
What does this have to do with where the aid goes? >Do I need to be more specific?
No, you need to stay on topic.
https://i.imgur.com/uK7qYpg.png
>most corrupt country in Europe
Woah! Hey buddy! We dont talk about that here! All of that aid gets exactly where it needs to go and if you question that then your a fifth columnist vatmoron buddy!
Suddenly we went from the weapons being diverted to bribery.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What does this have to do with where the aid goes?
You are aware that aid is supplied in not only weapons but also monetarily for the purpose of obtaining weaponry? Way to move the goalposts. I guess there is no ukrainian corruption after all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>aid is supplied in not only weapons but also monetarily for the purpose of obtaining weaponry?
They're not given bags of cash.
They are given a stipend that is used to purchase Western weapons. It's like store credit.
You think we're fucking stupid? >Way to move the goalposts
It wasn't me who who started talking about where aid is going and then switched to bribes.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They're not given bags of cash.
I guess they pay social security via watermelons
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It wasn't me who who started talking about where aid is going and then switched to bribes.
You dumb fucking ape. You bumbling fucking retard. aid is aid. At no point did I indicate that I was only reffering to weapon delivery part of the aid, as aid refers to anything given to ukraine to aid them in this war. Use a dictionary. >Transparency International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
I find it interesting that you dont want to address this. You really think one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the most corrupt country in europe has not misplaced anything weapon related at all? You think every single bullet is accounted for? You think im acting in bad faith by suggesting the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt? How much to you get paid to type like a retard on here?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>At no point did I indicate that I was only reffering to weapon delivery part of the aid
The vast majority of aid are goods (weapons) and services (the US writing itself a check for the training, operation of AWACS, etc). >Use a dictionary.
Does the dictionary somehow bend reality to turn a NLAW into digits in a bank account? >I find it interesting that you dont want to address this.
It is being addressed right now. Holy shit. >You really think one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the most corrupt country in europe has not misplaced anything weapon related at all?
This is an outright fallacy. The problem with weapons being misplaced is a) our aid is misused so we're wasting our money and b) the weapons can become a problem once they end up in the black market.
The fact of the matter is that the aid seems to be put to good use and the weaponry is in high enough need that they're not ending up elsewhere. If aid succeeds in winning the war faster I support increasing aid for Ukraine. If aid for Ukraine is proven to be a problem, I'll revise my position.
If the US Army misplaces weapons, should it be disbanded? Because they do lose weapons once in a while. >You think im acting in bad faith by suggesting the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt?
You're acting in bad faith by weaving a narrative where your "suggestion" is meant to create a mountain out of a molehill to discourage Western aid.
The use of the "NoBoDy Is TaLkInG AbOuT tHiS!" while talking about it is the same exact playbook for other controversial topics like Yemen or the recent Ohio derailment. I can see the same old issues being brought up everywhere I look online but NOBODY is talking about it. Sure.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The vast majority of aid are goods (weapons) and services (the US writing itself a check for the training, operation of AWACS, etc).
So no ukrainians are receiving massive amounts of cash? May I see a source? >Does the dictionary somehow bend reality to turn a NLAW into digits in a bank account?
No but it does define the word aid which you clealry cant or are unwilling to so that you dont lose the argument. >It is being addressed right now. Holy shit.
Address this specifically
International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
And tell me why it doesnt matter and we shouldnt discuss corruption when it comes to ukraine. >The fact of the matter is that the aid seems to be put to good use and the weaponry is in high enough need that they're not ending up elsewhere.
Not one single bullet? You really want to hang your hat on that? >If the US Army misplaces weapons, should it be disbanded? Because they do lose weapons once in a while.
You are making a straw man to make me seem like some pro russian douchebag. Im not saying we should disband the ukrainian army or stop giving them aid because of corruption. I am saying they are undoubtably corrupt and pretending they arent when all facts suggest otherwise is a moronic hill to die on. You want to only talk about weapons deliveries specifically because thats the one area that there is no solid documentation of corruption... yet. And you want everybody to pretend that all the other corruption just magically stops when a weapon delivery is involved. >You're acting in bad faith by weaving a narrative where your "suggestion" is meant to create a mountain out of a molehill to discourage Western aid.
Im not trying to discourage western aid. Im trying talk about a country that is clearly corrupt being corrupt and your making strawmen to shut me down, im not the "bad faith" actor here.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Since 2014, Ukraine has improved its corruption rank by 30 or so places. Russia? Not improved at all. Russia is still the most corrupt nation in Europe. >b-b-but it isn't Europe
It is. 80% of the population is in the West.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>abc
So now the mainstream media is credible?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Did I say it wasnt?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
> corrupt man gets caught and imprisoned
Isn't yhis an example of their system working, as opposed to not?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Isn't yhis an example of their system working, as opposed to not?
Im not saying they arent trying to do something about it. > corrupt man gets caught and imprisoned
If ukraine wasnt corrupt to begin with then there would be no one to arrest for corruption.
International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
Explain why this doesnt matter and ukraine actually isnt corrupt at all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If ukraine wasnt corrupt to begin with then there would be no one to arrest for corruption
Countries where nobody is arrested for corruption are exactly where corruption is thriving.
Just like countries that always win their own wargames have shitty military forces.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Since 2014, Ukraine has improved its corruption rank by 30 or so places. Russia? Not improved at all. Russia is still the most corrupt nation in Europe. >b-b-but it isn't Europe
It is. 80% of the population is in the West.
More straw men. My entire point is that ukraine is corrupt. I have proven that it is. I never claimed they arent trying to improve. But you dont go from being 122nd in corruption to 1st in a year. To pretend that ukraine is not corrupt and it isnt a viable topic of discussion is the real propaganda.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How is my post a strawman? I explained that Ukraine has been improving its corruption problem. Which means it isn't the most corrupt nation any more. I'm not sure why that is a strawman. Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
And why would they need to be 1st in the corruption rankings? What a baffling statement. Now that is a strawman. You've made an argument (that Ukraine should be the least corruption nation in a year) and attacked that by stating it isn't possible. You made an objective statement that Ukraine is corrupt. Corruption is not an either or. It is a grade. Ukraine has improved. Russia hasn't. You stated here
https://i.imgur.com/nTyxaY7.png
>It wasn't me who who started talking about where aid is going and then switched to bribes.
You dumb fucking ape. You bumbling fucking retard. aid is aid. At no point did I indicate that I was only reffering to weapon delivery part of the aid, as aid refers to anything given to ukraine to aid them in this war. Use a dictionary. >Transparency International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
I find it interesting that you dont want to address this. You really think one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the most corrupt country in europe has not misplaced anything weapon related at all? You think every single bullet is accounted for? You think im acting in bad faith by suggesting the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt? How much to you get paid to type like a retard on here?
>the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt
This is objectively, empirically, factually untrue. You're now flustered and trying to backtrack. You made an incorrect statement. Russia is the most corrupt nation in Europe. Not Ukraine.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>And why would they need to be 1st in the corruption rankings? What a baffling statement. Now that is a strawman.
Lmao I was making a point. Not stating that they literally had to be 1st in the ranking. Nice straw man by the way. The point is that they didnt magically stop being corrupt as fuck over the course of a year. >Russia is the most corrupt nation in Europe. Not Ukraine.
I wasnt thinking of russia as part of europe but fair enough. I will amend my statement. Ukraine is the 2nd most corrupt nation in europe. I also clearly stated that russia was more corrupt than ukraine multiple times so im not sure why your trying to throw that in my face as if im defending russia. This is my point. You shills will go to any lengths to not talk about ukraines corruption and swing the discussion back to russia. But it wont make ukraine any less corrupt and doing the classic vatmoron whataboutisms isnt going to change that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>A former state of the USSR is making strides to be less like Russia >Still corrupt due to said legacy but has been spending a lot of effort in fixing corruption over the years >Has literally significantly improved its corruption rankings from the bottom to almost Europe tier
I mean, at this point you're just whiing they're not fixing their de-sovietisation fast enough.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>anon makes joke saying ukraine is most corrupt country in europe. >jokingly reply that you arent allowed to talk about that here. >instantly inundated with (you)s defending ukraine and implying that I am vatmoron 5th columnist for not providing proof. >Provide proof >"No not that kind of proof! You have to provide proof for this one specific thing that we already know there is no proof of!" >Say that yes there is no specific proof of thing we all know there is no proof of. But the evidence of corruption all around it makes it extremely likely that it is also corrupt to some extent. >"No that is in Bad Faith! You cant say that! Russia is way worse!" >The same paragraph I posted as proof of ukraines corruption also states that russia is even more corrupt. Indicating I am not doing this as some defense of russia since I easily could have left that part of the article out. >"Ukraine doesnt have to be the least corrupt country on the planet! Strawman!" >Never said it did. Another strawman to make me seem like a 5th columnist vatmoron for daring to remark on ukrainian corruption. >"Ukrainian corruption is bad but slowly improving! So all your doing is complaining that they arent improving fast enough!" >All i said was that they were corrupt. You read the rest into it. >???
Now what?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The problem is that you're conflating multiple concepts at the same time.
"Ukraine is corrupt" and "aid is being diverted" isn't the same claim. You say you have proof, but the proof is that some guy got arrested for accepting bribes. Was the bribe money coming from aid? The fact that the guy got arrested is also indicative that Ukraine is willing to fight corruption rather than let it happen.
You get called a 5th columnist vatmoron because you act like one.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>The problem is that you're conflating multiple concepts at the same time.
I really dont think I am. I am saying that ukraine is a notoriously corrupt country. I have proven this so surely you are not disputing this. >"Ukraine is corrupt" and "aid is being diverted" isn't the same claim.
Ukraine is corrupt therefore it is not unreasonable to assume that atleast some aid is being misappropriated. When I say aid I am reffering to any and all aid including clothing, money, food, weapons etc. I will throw you a bone here and say that I am sure that armored vehicles and anti tank weapons and other high value items are likely getting where they are supposed to go. But the idea that not one single rifle, mag, hand grenade, or box of ammo has fallen off of a truck in a country like ukraine is absurd, but of course I have no documentation to prove that, how would I? I also dont have documentation that every can of beans got where it was supposed to so fucking what? >You say you have proof, but the proof is that some guy got arrested for accepting bribes. Was the bribe money coming from aid?
Im going to leave the burden of proof to you on that one. My point was to prove ukraine is a corrupt country by providing examples and statistics, not to provide nonexistent evidence to satisfy your bizarrely specific requirement that it involves weapon systems. I dont understand why your trying to box me into this when I have been clear from the beggining that I am speaking broadly about all aid. >The fact that the guy got arrested is also indicative that Ukraine is willing to fight corruption rather than let it happen.
Thats all well and good. This has nothing to do with my point that ukraine is a corrupt country, just because they may have improved isnt the point. Why dont you provide proof of how much less corrupt they are? >You get called a 5th columnist vatmoron because you act like one.
I pointed out that ukraine has corruption issues, an objective fact, you got ass mad
>All of that aid gets exactly where it needs to go and if you question that then your a fifth columnist vatmoron buddy!
Because you can't come up with a good faith questioning, all you can do is the "I'm just asking questions shtick" where the point isn't to find the truth but just cast doubt.
Have you looked into it yet since you're so curious, or does just posting online already accomplish the goal of making people second-guess the aid?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>"This regime is full of retards, the war is a shitshow, whatever meager "victory" it will bring will be made meaningless by everything that it took to achieve it and the subsequent reckoning and that's ASSUMING we win and don't get humiliated and damaged further. Whatever comes after Putin's regime will either send my ass to the Hague or disappear me themselves. Oh well, I had a good run, might as well just watch the fireworks and delight in the smugness of being right at least."
Bribes and corruption tend to loose popularity when a war breaks out.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Bribes and corruption tend to loose popularity when a war breaks out.
Does this mean that russia is also less corrupt now than it was before the war?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah probably. At least some portion of the defenestrations are probably scrambling to find someone competent to replace them rather than just loyalty plays.
>most corrupt country
That would be Russia.
Perception of Corruption Index proves it
Sorry. If you have some other benchmark to present, I am listening.
I still don't understand why people thinking a town that was meant to hold 1 (ONE) week so Ukraine could make a second defensive line on the high ground is actually not super vital.
lol it kinda looks like balls
Two thumbs popping a zit.
>lol it kinda looks like balls
Or like a traditional Georgian dish called khinkali - "meat dumplings".
Kinda ironic, given that the Georgian Legion is currently fighting in Bakhmut.
hinkali are fucking amazing and georgian wine is to die for
Thank you Laserpig.
this is anon is a true patrician of fine culture
>t. knower
I believe wine was 'invented' in georgia, even
I've only had wine made by georgians here from amador county i'll have to try the imported stuff if I can ever find it on shelves
>lol it kinda looks like balls
No, it's a Happy Cauldroner, get your shit right!
he's giving a thumbs up 😀
Kinda looks like a glowie with a fedora giving a thumbs up
If there's anything the schizoposters are good at by now, it's definitely psuedo-rorschach tests. Nice find
Scizoposters might be better at pseudo-rorschach tests, but autists are the best when it comes to decoding.
Whatever happened to decode posting? It just sort of disappeared a few months ago.
First thing I thought of
it is
I'll believe it when I see it
cope arrows vs cope arrows
who will win?
Deepstate (
) tends to be a little behind on updates, but it's a pro-Ukrainian source, so if some grand Ukrainian victory isn't on there, I wager to guess it might not be real
Stalingrad redux - mega kino
The impartial side of me doesn't want to believe it until hard proven.. but Pajeets and Serbs went absolutely ballistic last night, so I suspect somethings up.
nah they went full autismo because they lost one of their only AWACS plane in fucking Belarus to some airsofting partisans
The Russians are strict adherents to Murphy's Law, so long as the shills saying that it didn't happen, it probably did happen.
God I fucking hate Serbs, I hope after Russia falls, Serbia is next
Is it a pincer maneuver of a pincer manuever? We went too far with our recursive cauldrons.
Will we FINALLY see a cauldron this war? Please anons i've been blueballed for so long
>PrepHole still doesnt know
>posts falseflag on PrepHole
>saves it for their "epig PrepHole is dum compilation"
Fuck off.
Not a single screenshot of trannies taking over PrepHole exists. Stay in your containment general filled with actual chud in 4chan
if anything there's fewer trannies these days, used to get girldick posts all the time.
Gee, I wonder what happened, 41% of them just stopped posting for some reason
>winning
>3-18-2022
Where have you been?
The present, that's why those Russian gains on that map have vanished
>the russopig squeals loudly in hysteric panic as the cauldron gets hot to the touch...but the master chef is here to finish the cooking and turns the heat higher
The toning is so off that I thought that was the Lithuanian flag.
I havent seen any confirmation of this beyond a coupla polish guys, seems like bs though it would be funny seeing the ziggers get CAULDROONED
pottery
A sign of a successful offensive
Can't forget a classic
I hope we get SOVL like this again.
kherson was also funny
>Ukraine chud supporter
>Literally cannot stop thinking about dicks
pottery
>Ukraine chud supporter
This is what Russia is fighting for
its not the same guy
Yeah, its TWO fucking femboys, both are Russian
other is ukkie with same last name https://www.instagram.com/tomovyov/?hl=en
inb4 denial from these to fags
>just starts making stuff up
This is what Russia is fighting for number 2, leader pf the Russian armed forces. No wonder Russians are getting slaughtered.
Forgot the fags video.
geezus fuck, this guy was commander of the SSO for years
nice anon do you have uncensored?
please
I defer to your superior experience in gayry.
i just typed out the article from here and saw the correction
>polchud instantly recognizes a chud and posts his insta
Holy shit you can’t make this up!
>Bothering trying to disprive the sun of all tabloids
Why even bother lmao
>denial
We are at stage 1
>the sun
I already posted that it's not the same guy retard
Would
Those memes were clearly made by tops.
the happy merchant sold wagner some rope i see
4chan WAS RIGHT TRANNIES ARE EVERYWHERE
Trannies aren't real
two more incoming
>Benis
Oy vey
General Syrsky was in Bakhmut two days ago... He has a plan... #IWantToBelieve
Dude on the left looks like picrel
the kotlet is sizzling. the eyebrows are coming off... 2 more weeks and russia will win the war.
fuck off
it didn't happen og source said "wagner counter attacked and frontline returned to previous level" also known as lying
Surely they've got to have a master-plan if theyre not evacuating Bakhmut. I wish agonizing death on wagmorons but it looks like they won this one
its over
>garden gnomelian RopeKe
I like him
can that germ cuck off himself already? he's been concerntrolling all war with gibberish and it distracts from both fun vatnik screeching and actual reporting
he is 99% right, i know he makes you seethe
didn't ask your opinion gaylord I'm looking for a timer
ok chud, post your penis
post tummy first and I will
fag
Jihadi Julian hasn't been right once since Syria kicked off. He's the ukie version of doomer girkin.
ironically enough, the only person that believes that blue checkmark twitter loser is /chug/tards... really makes you think.
fuck off with that bald fraud
he is more brave than you
Why post this? Let PrepHole embarrass itself even more with this latest twitter offensive
>latest twitter offensive
Post Kherson
Röpcke is just like Girkin in terms of doomposting, only that he's less credible and less warcrimey.
Röpcke is also less informed. The guy literally started out his career as a "journalist" by reporting what different twitter accounts were posting about the Syrian war.
>Julian Ropcke.
>jihadi Julian
Just to check: has Julian been right even once before?
yes now
>TWITTER OFFENSIVE, NO PROOFS UKROPS CAULDRONED OUR BREAKTHROUGH
Is there proof that a breakthrough even happened? Is this some Ukrainian having a piss take off of vatnik propaganda, like the "Repelled SAS Amphibious Assault" vid from the summer/fall?
its the neighborhood watch hat guy giving a thumbs up
EYEBROW STATUS: SHAVED
>PrepHoleeddit is now posting full blown schizo propaganda hahahaha
go back polmoron
lol, a single pol post that you made it compared to the screenshots of trannies on discord taking over this place, hahaha PrepHoleeddit moment
/k/eddit
Sounds like you don't belong in this place.
You discord chuds actually thought taking over PrepHole was some notable feat
But at the end of it all, you still can't even into meme
All you have is some low traffic echochamber board on PrepHole riddled with innefectual glowies
It's pathetic
CNN is more impactful than you fags
>CNN is more impactful
why would you watch CNN? look, if CNN has more impact for you then go ahead and watch that
just stay away from this board
>4chan taken over by NazBols
I’m so glad I left that place.
You were never there summerfag
>from april 2022
you fags are so pathetic
People like you are why I stopped browsing 4chan
>People like you are why I stopped browsing 4chan
why don't you show flag on pol i wonder
>PrepHoleeddit
Lmao
No kidding, this place is so gay now
I occasionally make a meta thread asking the mods to ban all vatnik IPs, and also auto ban anyone who visits 4chan from all other boards for 3 days from their last visit. i think this will solve all of PrepHoles problems. 4chan will finally be a real containment board.
alas, my threads get deleted.
Use the feedback function at the bottom of the page and select the category "feature suggestion".
>Pole sources only
>Source is t. my sources
>A couple hours later already claimed it might not be successful
But
>Wolski and some other accounts today said Ukies still have position on the road effectively still holding a salient
I have no idea what to think of it. Smelled like some bullshit that never happened before, but some people are still digging deeper into it. I am not expecting actual footage too fast, but if there isn't any in a couple of days it's definitely bullshit.
Wolski is a confirmed PrepHole poster
It's 100% bullshit, how are you people even doubting this?
CHEF PRIGHOZIN IS COOKING
Looks like some guy wearing a cloak and hat walking away, giving you a thumbs up.
How can you guys post pro russian trannies without posting this guy?
Oh yeah, that dipshit
>polish copium
holy war on poland
>vatnigs come up with some Twitter counter-offensive that Ukrainians are supposed to commence
>no official sources/statements at all
>The offensive doesn't happen and now it's our job to disprove the disinformation that vatnigs have started
POP
THE
ZIT
any updates? ukrain heroes claimed they killed 3000 wagnerites today, looks like our counter offensive is looking super good
HAHAHAHAHAHA PrepHoleopers fell for this shit. The desperation is real.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
ok I'm headed back to 4chan have fun you retards
hehehehe
mad
Why does 4chan seethe at PrepHole nonstop?
PrepHole is more interested on the facts on the ground, because it's much more interesting to see how the weapon systems involved were implemented. Doesn't really matter about the ideologies of who's using them at the end of the day.
Ideologues, however, see the weaponry as incidental and, because of their autism, are anally devastated that some people don't immediately line up into one worldview or another. PrepHole wants to see who's kicking who's ass, and with what sized boot. And right now, the Ukies are doing a LOT of kicking.
Horrible take. PrepHole supports freedom, because that and gun rights go hand in hand.
PrepHole here, I want to see endless dead Russians after decades of "UNSTOPPABLE RUSSIA LISBON TWO WEEKS XAXAXA TONGO TONGO SU-57 BURY F22 WITH NUKE DICK"
Everyday citizens with squad weapons vs. mechanized columns bearing pillage, rape, and oppression. It really shouldn't have been hard to guess which side PrepHole would support.
>And right now, the Ukies are doing a LOT of kicking.
Delirious. Delusional. Convicts are materially refuting western weapons irl and you still think Ukraine is doing anything but being btfo werk after week?
Nothing happening means the defender is winning.
Russia is advancing while showering the dwindling ukrainian defences with artillery, that's what's happening. Is that winning? Kek
Can you show me a map of all the gains Russia has made in the past 12 months? It couldn't be that they've actually lost territory!
>advancing slowly
yes, extremely slowly
>dwindling ukranian defenses
if they were really doing that they'd be advancing a lot faster
>if they were really doing that they'd be advancing a lot faster
What do you mean? The Russians' rate of advance increased dramatically over the winter. They're up to nearly a kilometer per month in some places!
You're absolutely right. But somehow, that's even worse.
puccia is advancing backwards LOL
I miss the times when readovka was posting daily maps of gains and stopped right before russians lost kherson
>chudsistria is still red
They're asking for it!
>Russia is advancing
Russia lost more than 60% of their post-February 24th gains last year. They currently only hold 13% of Ukraine--- and they started the war with 10%.
>Is that winning?
I don't know, but I can tell you what's not winning: peaking 32 days into a 369 day war when you've been attacking the entire time.
Looks like they went from 7% to 14% of Ukraine
>BTFO
>Russia is getting pushed out
Russian cope is next level
Two more werks, then?
>materially refuting
I haven't heard this euphemism before. I like it though. "80,000 Hiroshimans materially refuted the atomic bomb".
Because it’s overrun with retarded redditors parroting cringe one-liners, as well as obviously paid shills.
>normie NPCs are fucking awful
Then stop coming here?
You sound upset. Maybe you should stay in your echo chamber then.
You certainly stay in yours.
>redditors parroting cringe one-liners
Exactly. They had better watch out because General Armageddon only has to raise his eyebrow and the roast piggies will get cauldroned.
LOOOOOOOOL
i knew immediately when i recognized that shape that that had to be fake or some unbelievable coincidence
perfect ammo to shut the wolskifag up, proper OSINT tards never bothered with this
What's the tactical advantage of making yourself look like habitual liar to the people you are trying to redpill?
Commence operation Oy Vey
it's actually over bros
oh no just 2 more months till its over what will we do now???
imaginary counter attack got BTFO
>2nd army in the world focues on capturing a small town 20km from the borders
>7 months and counting
Only 50 more Bakhmuts before Kiev
>Bakhmuts
Whole globohomo can't against one cook and couple of his crooks.
Let that sink in.
>2nd army in the world
>5 mass mobilizations
>8 years of preparation
>surprise-invading the poorest and the most corrupt country in Europe led by a literal comedian
>second year into a three-day special operation
>still lose
not like this zsisters
>nato has been grooming the hohols for 8 years but let's ignore that
/k/chud moment
Oh no they taught them how to do jumping jacks and gave them 5 NLAWS and 3 Javelins oh no. Let's be real, NATO's involvement in Ukraine the past 8 years has been abismal.
Then explain why russia is so goddamn bad at their job?
Because Russia is bad. That's independent of Ukraine getting some NATO sjts showing ukie soldiers how to do pushups properly. That being said, once the war started, yes NATO has been of invaluable help to Ukraine with intel, gear, supplies, and now heavy vehicles.
Even more corruption than Ukraine, zero morale, zero ability to do anything besides rape
The Chechens didn't need outside help to clown on them. The 2008 invasion of Georgia wasn't a rousing success either. The Russian military just objectively sucks. It relies on mass, indiscriminate brutality, and a willingness to take casualties. If the war lasts longer than a few weeks, that combination leads to pyrrhic victories like Chechnya or catastrophic losses like Chechnya (again) or Afghanistan. There's no third outcome.
The Chechens fought guerilla warfare, with charismatic fighters who could lead a platoon to make constant offensive operations. Ukrainians still fight in the rigid soviet fashion of a slugging match, which doesn't favor Ukraine in the long run. Yes, the bigger picture is Russia is also demographically destroying itself with this war, but that doesn't help Ukraine get its territory back in the medium term.
>"Ukrainians still fight in the rigid soviet fashion of a slugging match"
>Kharkiv offensive involved baiting troops to Kherson and exploiting the lower manpower concentration
>Kherson offensive involved degrading enemy logistics to reduce their inherent defensive advantage
NTA but I think he meant on the tactical level not the strategic level
They believed their own propaganda.
They thought their army was prepared to conduct an invasion of this scale.
And because they're dumb and corrupt.
>nato has been grooming the hohols for 8 years
>When US and NATO are yelling at Zelensky that Russia is going to attack he decides to ignore it hoping they wouldn't
Great fucking grooming right there, guys
Really best argument against Ukraine being wholly controlled by NATO is that Poroshenko didn't get reelected, he's literally everything vatniks accuse Zelensky of being, as he was a nationalistic millionaire oligarch who presided over bombing of Donbass before it became a frozen conflict with occasional skirmishes
>>2nd army in the world
Ukrainian separatists with help of Russia fighting illegitimate Kiev govt that receives help from globohomo.
As simple as.
>globohomo
>fighting against gay trench blowjob army with gay rape as a part of its official military doctrine
>fighting against a country more multicultural than Sweden with a higher HIV rate than Somalia
hahahahahah russian localhomo is more homo than globohomo
Just so you know, the homo in globohomo means homogenisation, not gayry. It's just kindve a coincidence that globalists all avocate for universal acceptance of sodomy too.
But yes, russia is a den of buttfucking degenerates.
>posting same image again
They probably all share same set provided by employee.
they do it for free
>seething brown schizos so desperate they monitor every ukraine thread on PrepHole
do not redeem sirs hahahahaha
They'll stop posting it when it stops being humiliating (i.e. never).
>Putin: I want to be known for a great victory like Stalingrad!
>*Monkey paw curls*
>Putin: Huh. I wonder why I keep getting handcramps? I eat bananas every day.
>globohomo
Hello zister. Do you still find taking power and resources from EU and giving it China, India and morons comfy?
this images existence is a direct product of eve eating that apple
Fuck you, anon. I was only a second or two away from having a mouth full of soda when I read this.
You forgot to mention the biolabs.
>most corrupt country in Europe
Woah! Hey buddy! We dont talk about that here! All of that aid gets exactly where it needs to go and if you question that then your a fifth columnist vatmoron buddy!
considering the ukrainian corruption was russian in nature, you'd think russia could skim a little of the top instead of relying on iran, NK and china for their munitions shortages
>ukrainian corruption was russian in nature
Finally someone whos not a complete retard.
>Because you can't come up with a good faith questioning
Everything you dont want to talk about is in bad faith conveniently. I can link you to articles that talk about rampant corruption in ukraine all you want. The ukrainians were soviets for a long time. They have way more in common with russian culture than anyone qants to admit. Refusing to talk about it because im "questioning in bad faith" is a way of dodging the question to obscure the truth "in bad faith"
>Everything you dont want to talk about is in bad faith conveniently
Not really, is that you can't point to specifics.
>I can link you to articles that talk about rampant corruption in ukraine all you want. The ukrainians were soviets for a long time. They have way more in common with russian culture than anyone qants to admit.
That is all fine. However, you want to talk about specifics and then walk back to generalities. Sure, Ukraine has corruption. But if they were corrupt to the point that they'd be selling the weapons they need, then they'd be losing pretty bad. They were Soviets for a long time. But this time the neo-Soviets have come for them. During the Soviet times you steal because everything is "not my problem". Now if you're in the Ukrainian military and stealing from your own stockpiles, you can get killed. Now it's your problem.
>Refusing to talk about it because im "questioning in bad faith" is a way of dodging the question to obscure the truth "in bad faith"
Nobody is refusing to talk about anything. The problem is that "Ukraine is corrupt" is all you have. Okay, but can you actually point to all these weapons that are being shipped to other countries? Oh, a blurry video filmed by an Assadist pretending to be a Syrian "moderate rebel" showing FALs and M16A1s? Oh, the "Thief" photos where a piece of paper is photoshopped into screengrabs from the internet and posted on le ebil scawy deep web?
When this pattern of behavior is consistent and nobody ever deviates, we know it's a psyop rather than an actual conversation.
>Nobody is refusing to talk about anything. The problem is that "Ukraine is corrupt" is all you have.
Ok. Lets get specific.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/senior-ukrainian-officials-depart-amid-corruption-crackdown-96627588
>On Sunday, a deputy infrastructure minister, Vasyl Lozynsky, was fired for alleged participation in a network embezzling budget funds. Ukraine’s anti-corruption agency detained him while he was receiving a $400,000 bribe for helping to fix contracts for restoring facilities battered by Russian missile strikes, according to Infrastructure Minister Oleksandr Kubrakov.
>“It’s very hard to save the country when there’s a lot of corruption,” Andrii Borovyk, the executive director of Transparency International Ukraine, a nonprofit organization that fights corruption, told The Associated Press.
>Transparency International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
>Entrenched corruption long has made foreign investors and governments wary of doing business with Ukraine.
Do I need to be more specific? I can google it again and find more examples. Just let me know when ive crossed the threshhold of "good faith" so we can talk about reality.
>$400,000 bribe for helping to fix contracts for restoring facilities
What does this have to do with where the aid goes?
>Do I need to be more specific?
No, you need to stay on topic.
Suddenly we went from the weapons being diverted to bribery.
>What does this have to do with where the aid goes?
You are aware that aid is supplied in not only weapons but also monetarily for the purpose of obtaining weaponry? Way to move the goalposts. I guess there is no ukrainian corruption after all.
>aid is supplied in not only weapons but also monetarily for the purpose of obtaining weaponry?
They're not given bags of cash.
They are given a stipend that is used to purchase Western weapons. It's like store credit.
You think we're fucking stupid?
>Way to move the goalposts
It wasn't me who who started talking about where aid is going and then switched to bribes.
>They're not given bags of cash.
I guess they pay social security via watermelons
>It wasn't me who who started talking about where aid is going and then switched to bribes.
You dumb fucking ape. You bumbling fucking retard. aid is aid. At no point did I indicate that I was only reffering to weapon delivery part of the aid, as aid refers to anything given to ukraine to aid them in this war. Use a dictionary.
>Transparency International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
I find it interesting that you dont want to address this. You really think one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the most corrupt country in europe has not misplaced anything weapon related at all? You think every single bullet is accounted for? You think im acting in bad faith by suggesting the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt? How much to you get paid to type like a retard on here?
>At no point did I indicate that I was only reffering to weapon delivery part of the aid
The vast majority of aid are goods (weapons) and services (the US writing itself a check for the training, operation of AWACS, etc).
>Use a dictionary.
Does the dictionary somehow bend reality to turn a NLAW into digits in a bank account?
>I find it interesting that you dont want to address this.
It is being addressed right now. Holy shit.
>You really think one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the most corrupt country in europe has not misplaced anything weapon related at all?
This is an outright fallacy. The problem with weapons being misplaced is a) our aid is misused so we're wasting our money and b) the weapons can become a problem once they end up in the black market.
The fact of the matter is that the aid seems to be put to good use and the weaponry is in high enough need that they're not ending up elsewhere. If aid succeeds in winning the war faster I support increasing aid for Ukraine. If aid for Ukraine is proven to be a problem, I'll revise my position.
If the US Army misplaces weapons, should it be disbanded? Because they do lose weapons once in a while.
>You think im acting in bad faith by suggesting the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt?
You're acting in bad faith by weaving a narrative where your "suggestion" is meant to create a mountain out of a molehill to discourage Western aid.
The use of the "NoBoDy Is TaLkInG AbOuT tHiS!" while talking about it is the same exact playbook for other controversial topics like Yemen or the recent Ohio derailment. I can see the same old issues being brought up everywhere I look online but NOBODY is talking about it. Sure.
>The vast majority of aid are goods (weapons) and services (the US writing itself a check for the training, operation of AWACS, etc).
So no ukrainians are receiving massive amounts of cash? May I see a source?
>Does the dictionary somehow bend reality to turn a NLAW into digits in a bank account?
No but it does define the word aid which you clealry cant or are unwilling to so that you dont lose the argument.
>It is being addressed right now. Holy shit.
Address this specifically
International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
And tell me why it doesnt matter and we shouldnt discuss corruption when it comes to ukraine.
>The fact of the matter is that the aid seems to be put to good use and the weaponry is in high enough need that they're not ending up elsewhere.
Not one single bullet? You really want to hang your hat on that?
>If the US Army misplaces weapons, should it be disbanded? Because they do lose weapons once in a while.
You are making a straw man to make me seem like some pro russian douchebag. Im not saying we should disband the ukrainian army or stop giving them aid because of corruption. I am saying they are undoubtably corrupt and pretending they arent when all facts suggest otherwise is a moronic hill to die on. You want to only talk about weapons deliveries specifically because thats the one area that there is no solid documentation of corruption... yet. And you want everybody to pretend that all the other corruption just magically stops when a weapon delivery is involved.
>You're acting in bad faith by weaving a narrative where your "suggestion" is meant to create a mountain out of a molehill to discourage Western aid.
Im not trying to discourage western aid. Im trying talk about a country that is clearly corrupt being corrupt and your making strawmen to shut me down, im not the "bad faith" actor here.
Since 2014, Ukraine has improved its corruption rank by 30 or so places. Russia? Not improved at all. Russia is still the most corrupt nation in Europe.
>b-b-but it isn't Europe
It is. 80% of the population is in the West.
>abc
So now the mainstream media is credible?
Did I say it wasnt?
> corrupt man gets caught and imprisoned
Isn't yhis an example of their system working, as opposed to not?
>Isn't yhis an example of their system working, as opposed to not?
Im not saying they arent trying to do something about it.
> corrupt man gets caught and imprisoned
If ukraine wasnt corrupt to begin with then there would be no one to arrest for corruption.
International, in its 2021 report on worldwide corruption, ranked Ukraine 122 out of 180 countries, with 180 representing the most corrupt. Russia ranked even lower, 136.
Explain why this doesnt matter and ukraine actually isnt corrupt at all.
>If ukraine wasnt corrupt to begin with then there would be no one to arrest for corruption
Countries where nobody is arrested for corruption are exactly where corruption is thriving.
Just like countries that always win their own wargames have shitty military forces.
More straw men. My entire point is that ukraine is corrupt. I have proven that it is. I never claimed they arent trying to improve. But you dont go from being 122nd in corruption to 1st in a year. To pretend that ukraine is not corrupt and it isnt a viable topic of discussion is the real propaganda.
How is my post a strawman? I explained that Ukraine has been improving its corruption problem. Which means it isn't the most corrupt nation any more. I'm not sure why that is a strawman. Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.
And why would they need to be 1st in the corruption rankings? What a baffling statement. Now that is a strawman. You've made an argument (that Ukraine should be the least corruption nation in a year) and attacked that by stating it isn't possible. You made an objective statement that Ukraine is corrupt. Corruption is not an either or. It is a grade. Ukraine has improved. Russia hasn't. You stated here
>the most corrupt country in europe may be corrupt
This is objectively, empirically, factually untrue. You're now flustered and trying to backtrack. You made an incorrect statement. Russia is the most corrupt nation in Europe. Not Ukraine.
>And why would they need to be 1st in the corruption rankings? What a baffling statement. Now that is a strawman.
Lmao I was making a point. Not stating that they literally had to be 1st in the ranking. Nice straw man by the way. The point is that they didnt magically stop being corrupt as fuck over the course of a year.
>Russia is the most corrupt nation in Europe. Not Ukraine.
I wasnt thinking of russia as part of europe but fair enough. I will amend my statement. Ukraine is the 2nd most corrupt nation in europe. I also clearly stated that russia was more corrupt than ukraine multiple times so im not sure why your trying to throw that in my face as if im defending russia. This is my point. You shills will go to any lengths to not talk about ukraines corruption and swing the discussion back to russia. But it wont make ukraine any less corrupt and doing the classic vatmoron whataboutisms isnt going to change that.
>A former state of the USSR is making strides to be less like Russia
>Still corrupt due to said legacy but has been spending a lot of effort in fixing corruption over the years
>Has literally significantly improved its corruption rankings from the bottom to almost Europe tier
I mean, at this point you're just whiing they're not fixing their de-sovietisation fast enough.
>anon makes joke saying ukraine is most corrupt country in europe.
>jokingly reply that you arent allowed to talk about that here.
>instantly inundated with (you)s defending ukraine and implying that I am vatmoron 5th columnist for not providing proof.
>Provide proof
>"No not that kind of proof! You have to provide proof for this one specific thing that we already know there is no proof of!"
>Say that yes there is no specific proof of thing we all know there is no proof of. But the evidence of corruption all around it makes it extremely likely that it is also corrupt to some extent.
>"No that is in Bad Faith! You cant say that! Russia is way worse!"
>The same paragraph I posted as proof of ukraines corruption also states that russia is even more corrupt. Indicating I am not doing this as some defense of russia since I easily could have left that part of the article out.
>"Ukraine doesnt have to be the least corrupt country on the planet! Strawman!"
>Never said it did. Another strawman to make me seem like a 5th columnist vatmoron for daring to remark on ukrainian corruption.
>"Ukrainian corruption is bad but slowly improving! So all your doing is complaining that they arent improving fast enough!"
>All i said was that they were corrupt. You read the rest into it.
>???
Now what?
The problem is that you're conflating multiple concepts at the same time.
"Ukraine is corrupt" and "aid is being diverted" isn't the same claim. You say you have proof, but the proof is that some guy got arrested for accepting bribes. Was the bribe money coming from aid? The fact that the guy got arrested is also indicative that Ukraine is willing to fight corruption rather than let it happen.
You get called a 5th columnist vatmoron because you act like one.
>The problem is that you're conflating multiple concepts at the same time.
I really dont think I am. I am saying that ukraine is a notoriously corrupt country. I have proven this so surely you are not disputing this.
>"Ukraine is corrupt" and "aid is being diverted" isn't the same claim.
Ukraine is corrupt therefore it is not unreasonable to assume that atleast some aid is being misappropriated. When I say aid I am reffering to any and all aid including clothing, money, food, weapons etc. I will throw you a bone here and say that I am sure that armored vehicles and anti tank weapons and other high value items are likely getting where they are supposed to go. But the idea that not one single rifle, mag, hand grenade, or box of ammo has fallen off of a truck in a country like ukraine is absurd, but of course I have no documentation to prove that, how would I? I also dont have documentation that every can of beans got where it was supposed to so fucking what?
>You say you have proof, but the proof is that some guy got arrested for accepting bribes. Was the bribe money coming from aid?
Im going to leave the burden of proof to you on that one. My point was to prove ukraine is a corrupt country by providing examples and statistics, not to provide nonexistent evidence to satisfy your bizarrely specific requirement that it involves weapon systems. I dont understand why your trying to box me into this when I have been clear from the beggining that I am speaking broadly about all aid.
>The fact that the guy got arrested is also indicative that Ukraine is willing to fight corruption rather than let it happen.
Thats all well and good. This has nothing to do with my point that ukraine is a corrupt country, just because they may have improved isnt the point. Why dont you provide proof of how much less corrupt they are?
>You get called a 5th columnist vatmoron because you act like one.
I pointed out that ukraine has corruption issues, an objective fact, you got ass mad
>All of that aid gets exactly where it needs to go and if you question that then your a fifth columnist vatmoron buddy!
Because you can't come up with a good faith questioning, all you can do is the "I'm just asking questions shtick" where the point isn't to find the truth but just cast doubt.
Have you looked into it yet since you're so curious, or does just posting online already accomplish the goal of making people second-guess the aid?
>"This regime is full of retards, the war is a shitshow, whatever meager "victory" it will bring will be made meaningless by everything that it took to achieve it and the subsequent reckoning and that's ASSUMING we win and don't get humiliated and damaged further. Whatever comes after Putin's regime will either send my ass to the Hague or disappear me themselves. Oh well, I had a good run, might as well just watch the fireworks and delight in the smugness of being right at least."
Bribes and corruption tend to loose popularity when a war breaks out.
>Bribes and corruption tend to loose popularity when a war breaks out.
Does this mean that russia is also less corrupt now than it was before the war?
Yeah probably. At least some portion of the defenestrations are probably scrambling to find someone competent to replace them rather than just loyalty plays.
>most corrupt country
That would be Russia.
Perception of Corruption Index proves it
Sorry. If you have some other benchmark to present, I am listening.
>NATO has 3.3 million active duty military personnel.
>None point none of them are in Ukraine.
>Hahaha entire globohomo can't stop Russia.
How do you expect us to believe Russia is winning when those red arrows are so thin?
>yfw battle of bakmut ends with Russians getting encircled
Ffs stop generating antisemitic AI art already!
Is this actualy happening? I haven't heard news from bahkmut since yesterday, I'am assuming it hasan't fallen yet since the vatniks would be gloating
So what happens when Russia breaks through? Urban warfare? Or is that not worth it?
Imagine the cope if Wagner gets encircled and destroyed here.
meanwhile, in the real world...
>@Russ_warrior
23 million wasn't enough on god
I still don't understand why people thinking a town that was meant to hold 1 (ONE) week so Ukraine could make a second defensive line on the high ground is actually not super vital.
>the most important military victory since the start of the conflict
I love it
>the end game
oh my fucking sides
That tweet reads like "Trouble in River City".
It's over
It's not too late to join the good side (Russia), PrepHole. Even Elon has.
fedora trenchcoat thumbs up
Oy Vey
Literally Stalingrad 7.5