Ive begun construction on my bunker frens. Ive excavated a 8x8x8 hole and will be building a waterproof 2x4 and 2x6 framed structure inside. From there i plan to continue my excavations. I will be adding tunnels, store rooms, bathroom, kitchen, etc. i will conduct all of this work underground after the initial structure is built. Once i am done i plan to live underground full time. I would also like to construct an underground farm. I will be growing some sort of fish, mushrooms, and various plants in a hydroponics system
>I will be growing some sort of fish
that's a neat trick
don't be idiot we know they are hiding the fish seeds
>paying for your own coffin
Bunkers even if lead laden don’t protect you from anything and the materials used to make bunkers prevent farming within and around the bunkers.
You have to live on an island.
Retard what are you talking about?
I had also considered growing some form of rodent like guinea pigs or gerbils
I’m talking about your retarded efforts
It's extra space. I'd love a bunker den. Are you even white?
The mold spores will kill your plants
Yeah you can dehumidfy a space...
People have been doing it with large grow ops here for decades.
Why does the israelite fear the basement dweller so much?
They are scared we will awaken something in the depths (the true hyperborean spirit)
You can’t dehumidify underground.
Well that's one of the dumbest thing's I've ever heard. I'm assuming he's going to have his ongoing digging section separated from his completed sections so absolutely you can do that.
No you can’t because it’s under soil. How you dig doesn’t even matter.
Its going to be waterproof sweety. Ill have a big piece of plastic tarping under the entire bottom folding and stapled up halfway of the main box room. Then ill drape another plastic one over the top to the bottom. No water will get in. Simple as. Id also like to install a wood burning stove which should keep it nice and dry inside
It's called a seal...
The room won't be exposed to the soil. I refuse to believe you're white.
Dude you’re legitimately retarded. Whole place heat up. Especially with your retard brain trying to work.
Holy fuck you're dumb. There's still climate control and air flow. It's just sealed off from the fucking exposed ground.
Retard israelite
You have a lot to say for a retard without a clue.
Based.
>I had also considered growing some form of rodent like guinea pigs or gerbils
Rabbits. They can be held indoors with chickens.
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Whitewash.
nagger are you for real this retarded?
It should be cozy frfr. Im gonna hotbox the fuck out of it
I'd dig it nice and deep and make a vaulted ceiling so it doesn't feel cramped. Do some nice wood work, halogen lighting, good airflow with filters. Cozy.
Vaulted ceiling is a really good idea fren. This would allow me to go deeper without such fear of cave ins and dying. It would be a miserable death being crushed in my new home. Definitely would not be bussin
With some high oxygen producing plants and decent airflow along with a dehumidifier it shouldn't be dank either, you want a large air mass, sort of the same idea behind big box stores.
Just grow some bugz
Depending on the size of my farm room(s) i may be able to have a self contained ecosystem. Bugs would be a part of that. I could feed them my gerbil and fish carcassi and then in turn feed the bugs to the animals
Welcome to bio-dome
Nigga, that's star fleet academy
How do I into star fleet academy tbh
You gotta pass the psych test.
>doesn’t know about pauly shore
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here
>implying the earth isn't also a bio-dome
nancy is cheating on you with the injun
are you trying to figure out a sustainable food source?
Yes wed discussed an ecosystem of gerbils bugs hydroponics mushrooms and fish
Why not chickens?
Let me guess, the gerbils are for your anal pleasure.
Don't be afraid of posts like these
These are bunker-israelites who try to fool you, they spout bunkers produce a false sense of security which is completely false.
This is for all my fellow Moles, water & lead is the most effective blocker of radiation, two inches of lead and a inch of water protects you.
Always keep your rooms separated by a vertical shaft or staircase, a meter difference is useful just keep it separated, when it eventually becomes flooded, its a lot less effort to drain a 13x13 instead of a 26x26
Good Luck Mole.
With radiation you're going to be worried about fallout, which should be solved by very high quality filters that pick up particles as small as viruses. Keep a lot of those in stock if you're actually planning on not getting cancer in such an event. Unless the core of the bomb particles literally drop on your house Chernobyl plume style though you're not dying quickly, or really anytime soon.
Another useful tip is when building storage, keep it separated, don't put all your eggs in the same basket keep them separated and mixed so you never lose more then half of your items.
>Bunkers even if lead laden don’t protect you from anything and the materials used to make bunkers prevent farming within and around the bunkers.
If you know you know
e-boing at all of the clueless retard brokies
A bunker should be deeper than that. All you are making is an underground room
Its not designed for muh nukes bro. I just want to go underground like a hobbit or dwarf. Its my life dream
>not designed for fake nukes
Yikes. NGMI.
reinforce the roof and mound over it.
It's very unlikely OP would be in the actual blast radius of any bomb. Any hidden room that is not suHispanicious will protect from roaming naggers.
>man invents basement
>onlookers shocked
Won't that rust like crazy?
Dude who made that is in England so ya
It is buried in concrete. Its Colin Furze from YouTube.
> Once i am done i plan to live underground full time.
why
Its what i was born for
what are you gonna do down there
Everything i described itt. Ill continue my excavations, set up my self sustaining ecosystem, set up a fresh water well inside, and then live there. Simple as
Your well retard efforts are gonna poison the groundwater.
What are u talking about sweatums?
You know underground spaces are largely toxic, right? There isn't just moisture, but fungi and bacteria and gases and other microscopic dangers. Modern basements are constructed to have passageways underneath to handle water and even gases, if they become a problem. With those gone, the fungi and bacteria are held at bay, mostly. I recommend concrete on at least the bottom and sides, and build a sump system as well. If you're wise, you'll just go ahead and add gas evacuation in as well. Radon is just one of the things that seep into your air from the earth. Outside, it just blows away and mixes with air, but enclosed, they collect.
Radon is an issue in regular houses here just having a basement. Constant airflow is recommended, but who doesn't have central air with a constant fan running these days? The poor that's who.
>but who doesn't have central air with a constant fan running these days?
1. Running the fan constantly adds like $200 to the electric bill.
2. Central air doesn't displace radon. If anything, it just makes it circulate through the house so people upstairs can breathe it, too. A radon pump ventilates the sump and gravel bed under the slab, where it collects.
Explain to me how a 200W fan running all the time is going to add fucking $200 a month to an electric bill? Electricity is 16c a KW hour here. That's less than the vast majority of desktop computers which you really shouldn't turn off due to power cycles (expansion/contraction) damaging the ultra small circuitry.
I don't have a bill in front of me. It adds a shit ton.
Also unless the house is literally hermetically sealed taking outside air in, mixing it with the tiny bit of radon coming in and blowing it out will reduce the chance of it settling and causing cancer. Obviously the real solution is to get your basement sealed so it doesn't seep in to start with.
air conditioning doesn't exchange the air with outside air, you dumb nagger. It just circulates it. And yes, houses breathe naturally, but the amount isn't the same as ventilation.
>off-grid homesteading
>electric bill
anon..
Yup. Most of the work I've done so far has been excavating what will basically be the crawl space. Most of my cave is naturally formed, about 30k years old. Once all the important stuff is done I can start actually excavating extra rooms.
Cozy.
I saw a 160 acre property for sale in the ozarks yesterday for $500k with a massive sandstone cave mine. It was fucking huge they clearly had those bigass dump trucks that are like 100 feet tall driving in it. Thats the sort of cave i would want. You could just drive way down into the back of it and build a home inside
I mean if you feel like you need the space go for it, but my 25 acres with what will eventually be a 3200sqft cave (roughly 10-12ft ceilings) will be more than enough for the wife, myself, and our (one right now, eventually four we hope) kids. We currently live in a doublewide on a pad on the property, while I work on the cave. Have a well for water and solar for power.
I'm guessing rain runoff isn't an issue?
it was before I dug the drainage to redirect the runoff, that took a solid three weeks on its own.
$265k CAD after taxes and such. Had to put in the road access myself, and no electricity/water on the property thus well/solar. The doublewide and septic had to be brought in on a barge and the pad built closer to the water than I'd have liked, and more trees taken down than I wanted too.
Why not have a grey water area and incinerating toilets instead? Or composting? Aid you in your gardening endeavors.
The wife needed more normal comforts, and table scraps etc lead to plenty of composting.
Look into hydrocarbonization.
You can purify waste water and split any organic matter into its base elements under pressure and heat.
How do yall naggers afford that shit? Thats a crazy amount of money to me. Literally like two decades savings wtf
CAD is like, 100 real money
Couple years working hard and risky off shore and in the north. Can earn about $100k in 8 months if you know a good crew.
Id looked into working in the permian basin in texas but heard guys lose finger and shit and work 80 hour weeks so i decided not to. I wish everything wasnt so expensive this is fucked
Yeah I mean I nearly lost my arm first season out at sea. Don't fuck with the rigging if you don't have to. Honestly though gigs like that, oil, fish, mining, lumber... pretty much the only way to earn a good honest wage these days. Would is fucked, thats why I got away from it.
The game is over, as I am fond of saying.
The israelites won. They are in control of the Pikes Peak batholith and the multi-trillion-dollar granite tunnel system — a highly symbolic 40 miles west of Denver, Colorado in the Front Range. But they are in control of much more than the end-time survival apparatus. They control not only the military and government of the United States of America but through the power of major corporations and the corruptibility of businessmen and government officials, fiat currency manipulation by the WiΩards of Fiat Currency at the Federal Reserve System, a small army of propagandists and "hackers" (this is a technically incorrect use of the term) who are fighting to maintain control of the Frankenstein monster they created called the Internet (in a war I fear they are going to lose), and even the Republican form of government they created which inevitably—and I would argue by design—fosters centralized control and assures only a handful of "elected" officials must be compromised to control an entire country, they control the entire Western world.
How much was the 25 acres bro? All properties with caves here are expensive as fuck.
Properties with caves? Is this a search feature on zillow or something? How do I search for property/houses for sale with caves?
>anon..
You should at least read back a few posts if you're going to join a conversation so you don't say something totally unrelated like a dumbass.
Dumbass.
Radon is treated by blowers underneath your house, including basement. You don't put fans in your basement, you install a fan under your foundation so radon doesn't get into the basement
You just made all that shit up. You expect me to believe in my waterproof unerground box the evil boron and shit is going to gas me? That shits faker than anne franks diary
If you don't have a proper seal with the ground radon can be an issue. Many houses have to deal with this when they have exposed dirt in the basement or porous concrete or something.
Radon can even seep through cracks in the slab.
Yep that's true. They put down heavy gauge plastic before pouring now these days for that (and other) reasons.
Additionally, let's discuss why florida doesn't have basements. Let's say you build your box and put a foot of earth on it. And a heavy downpour fills the cavity around it. If the framing is really strong, you just might turn your hobbit hole into a dirty fucking boat. If it's not as strong as concrete, it'll simply cave in.
Also, if you don't care about bomb protection, build a shed on top of it to house the air exchange fans, water pumps, etc. You could add an entrance/exit in the shed, or just use it to disguise your underground lair.
My greenhouse will be above it
That works even better.
Drillers in DRG
Looks a lot like Charley and the NVC/NVA.
>tunnels won't work -- Cave-in
They dug many, many Tunnels, Big tunnels, long tunnels, over and under tunnels.
Drag artillery through tunnels.
Have HQ/Fort Tunnels.
Americans looking for WhereTF Charley is hiding, a company -
- inside tunnels!
because picrel
>waterproof
It won't be.
Water will always fuck your shit up in underground spaces.
always
You have to plan carefully to redirect it and also plan for the consequences of extra water in area you redirect it to. It can be done.
Ill waterproof it with plastic first off. I also plan on having a subfloor system with multiple sump pumps to get water out. Simple as
so what is this framing made from ? steel ? how long before it will rust away ?
What is best? What could withstand nukes and won't deteriorate?
>What could withstand nukes and won't deteriorate?
nukes are fake
as for what won't deteriorate, moonwood, old steel tools, roman concrene,biopolymer
I've begun excavating a sandstone cave for my family. Running water and electricity under the floorboards eventually, going to become our main home in a few years when its finished.
Take the underground pill, anons.
>don't need heating or cooling
>more secure against ~~*threats*~~ than traditional housing
>it was good enough for your European ancestors, its good enough for you
>women like the hobbit/cottagecore vibes
>
drainage excavations, dehumidifiers, sump pumps, proper weather proofing etc.
halogens are okay, but keep in mind they need more frequent replacing.
see the 1999 film "Blast From the Past" for details
Look into those sunken greenhouses, anon. I believe they have some fancy concept name, but whatever... you get it.
FYI fellow leafs looking into underground living, BC has some of the best laws for it.
>as long as a structural engineer signs off on it, you don't need to worry about it being "up to code" etc
>interior and mid to north coast has some relatively cheap land still
>great growing seasons for homesteading
>if you raise animals and crops there are many good tax breaks
>outside of vancouver and kelowna most towns are still white.
only need to worry about water table.
I live in the Okanagan. The mountains here couldn't be better for making underground spaces. Plains and coast people wouldn't understand.
If I had the money I'd build some sweet shit underground.
Brah the mountains are only good for collecting rain soil off of.
then it’s not sealed, which means you can’t dehumidify underground
The airflow is connected above ground, The hole has fresh air return to the outside. Are you brown? If so please stop talking.
Yeah because it’s not sealed and the mold spores will still kill your plants.
Are the radons and mold spores in the room with us right now??
So true
No because you can’t dehumidify underground. Or is the dirt separated
The box would be sealed airtight in thick plastic wrapping. I dont think radon or mold sporerinos will be getting in gassing me like a little chaim
Basically mold spores make humidity. They will kill everything in your box if you want to poison the local groundwater.
But it would be sealed, as much as any house with the similar airflow of a normal basement under a concrete slab, which is very common under garages etc in non poor areas with good drainage.
Yep. Order a geological survey on any land you're looking to buy, take note of rock that is easier to work with. Honestly though anon you don't even need much much money to start, you'd be surprised how far you can get with a pickaxe and a sledge out in the middle of some crown land.
the idea of whites homesteading and building for themselves scares the shit out of them, the same thing happens in NWF threads and any general positivity thread.
We have a shitload of hydrophobic clay up in the hills here, with rock pretty close beneath. Mostly limestone. I'd want to do it right, would buy a proper 8 ton excavator minimum and go to town on my own acreage. The land out in the ALR or bordering crown is pretty cheap. One day.
(Also holy shit why are there so many israelites so mad about this, what the fuck? You'd think you just said they did 911 or the earth is round).
So...let me get this straight. You just want to live underground. Not to prep, or do crime, or anything. You know there's a much quicker way to get what you want if you can forego the whole "living" thing...
I cant afford a home so im doing this in my parents backyard. My excavations will continue out inbetween the neighbords homes at a depth of 16 feet below ground until i get to the empty forest lands down the road then i will expand my rooms
Its illegal anyways. Hopefully your neighbors rat you out for your extremely retarded plan
I hope you have a nice day homosexual
You're building your own tomb, genius
The roof will be vaulted, retard. It also wont be deep underground. Maybe a foot of soil or two on the roof max
...but what about all the construction materials? The tools? The know-how? How can you have all the money and skills for those, but not be able to get a home?
Not trying to shit on your dreams, but they look like memes right now.
Ive built homes and shit before putting a waterproof box underground wont be difficult.
Yeah but a waterproof box in the ground a living space does not make. How will the mushrooms grow? The fish or rodents? They all have needs that you have to provide or they won't grow. I mean, if you've really built homes you should know better than most that they are much more than just boxes above ground, there's Plumbing, HVAC, Electrical stuff...
Again, if you're just looking for a box underground...
have a nice day you pretentious israelite
Go anon go! build an underground mansion over your lifetime, kidnap an aspie bride and expand it over generations into an underground city and civilization with your posterity of mole people and fresh blood that you kidnap from the surface as necessary to decrease inbreeding. Go forth and conquer!
How far above sea level should you be before building underground? Or is it just relevant to the water table in your area?
Idk im 200 feet up on a big plateau so the water should drain away
So you're building underground and haven't considered the biggest obstacle? Right on. Will you be building it yourself or contracting most of the work out?
Myself of course it should only take about a week for the main structure
anon, not to discourage you because I really do believe in this stuff, but you're vastly underestimating the work. I've been working on my cave-home for about two years now and I'm barely past 1000 sqft.
good choices but I'd be concerned with the structural safety of clay, especially as long-term habitation could lead to it getting warmer and more brittle.
correct, which is why you need basic ventilation.. and basic cleaning. things you'd have in a normal home.
I think he wants to be self-contained underground full time, which is dumb, having a homestead on the surface is far preferable.
With the clay you need to make sure it's not shifting too much, would have it surveyed. You also have to go deep and heavy with the foundations (how homes are built here).
Yeah living underground full time would suck balls. As extra completely climate controlled space with consistent temperature it would be great even as a heat sink for the house. Homes with large basements are much, much cheaper to cool and heat, much like a heat pump.
This thread is full of israelites and morons.
Lmfao you're so retarded
this is pretty cool OP. I think like leaf anon, theres loads of people who master hydropondic growing underground. you can use fish to fertilize the hydropondic setup too, like tilapia. the question is how you power everything to keep it dry and running. if SHTF then you might want something discreet and renewable.
>I would also like to construct an underground farm.
It's ogre. Anon is never coming out of his hole again...
did you get this idea from Hamas? Are tunnels really the best way to escape the zionists?
You Can't Dehumidify Underground (YCDU)
America flag. Thus freedom units. 2 feet by 6 feet. Are you digging your own grave?
Do you have any models for the 2x6 or 2x4 framing required to hold up the ground ?
Just curious, I want to build some kind of cellar.
No i was really planning on just winging it no cap
Don't do this, model it out and consult the books if it collapses on you or you die of Co2, it would be a loss for mole-kind.
If you're building a box underground, neither 2x4 nor 2x6 will hold the earth back.
I figured that would be cheaper and easier than the concrete and rebar route but maybe i should just do it the right way
You need concrete.
There are alternatives, if you have access to a shitload of 1/2" stainless steel sheets and can weld like a boss, that would be perfect.
If you are serious and want it to last more then a decade, purchase good concrete not the cheap shit chinks use, use industrial piping & techniques, You keep it dry it will last a lifetime.
>Once i am done i plan to live underground full time.
godamit u made me piss myself in lols i cant stop loooool
also based dwarvenkin tread
How deep are you going? This isn't the best way to hollow earth.
This bong building the DUMB on his property is pretty based.
No you won't.
Nice, thanks for the info. When SHTF, I will be looting you and murdering your family first
you'll die in the first raid you go on homosexual
Endgame will be expanding your tunnel network all the way to connect to the Hamas tunnels
>normal life but under 2 feet of dirt!
wow so efficient and warranted
Can you build a bunker under a small (3meters x 6m)pool that's only about 3 meters deep?
>look at me I have stuff
eat a dick OP
>building a waterproof 2x4 and 2x6 framed structure inside
If you don't know what you're doing you're gonna be digging your grave. kek. I know this is a halfass fantasy post but it's a cool topic. Burying domes is where it's at
what happens when one of those domes cracks? you're fucked
Why would it crack if you're a competent planner who understands its load-bearing properties?
I just moved to Paraguay, a place nobody cares about that is geographically safe from a nuclear war. Bought a large villa in a gated community for 200k and retired at 28 banging latinas 24/7. Good luck with your dumb bunker
>that is geographically safe from a nuclear war
you are nowhere safe from the upcoming Micronova.
you better dont live anywhere near water because thats basically instadeath.
>Ive begun construction on my bunker frens.
No you haven't. i'm so sick of the constant shitty threads of made up bullshit stories.
Based but never leak location only to close family members, also no contractors.
>builds underground drug lab
>spins it as apocolyptus bunker
nobody cares if you just grow your weed in the closet anon you don't have to go to all that effort.
>blank untreated sheet iron in contact with soil
That shit will rust through and collapse in 20 years.
Will you pick me a few fish off the vine anon?