The best Ear Pro.

What's the best ear pro for Arty dudes?

Those friggin things are 183 dB at the ear, so I'm gonna need to double up (ie. plugs + muffs). I fear I'm gonna lose my hearing because even if you take away let's say 40 dB, it's still 140+ dB.

A lotta Arty guys don't wear ear pro or don't buy any gear, so they end up totally deaf. I have good hearing.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they don't because of blast pressure can blow out your ears. open you mouth and turn your back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's complete bullshit, OP don't listen to trolls.

      3m or Howard leight worked fine for me, but you have to know how to put in earplugs the right way. Roll them up really tight, maybe even lick them I am not joking, and then pull your ear up with one hand while you put the ear plug in with the other. I did and enlistment as an assaultman and got out without any hearing loss because I was autistic about wearing earplugs. And the SMAW is 175 at the ear, not as bad but I want to say it's the second loudest thing in the Marine Corps behind the Almighty m777.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I'm going 0811. I was looking to maximize protection. I'm not gonna stay in forever, but it's cool and after college I'm going for jets. Pilots can't have hearing problems.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Was an 0811 for a while. Realistically you’re going to be wearing foamies under comtacs. This is more than enough, lower charges aren’t even that loud.

          If you have any questions I’ll be around to answer them ITT

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was thinking of getting some 3M E-A-R Classic Plus plugs (33 dB NRR), the yellow ones. And some active earmuffs. The fattest ones are Howard Leight (30 dB) but usually do 20 - 23 dB on average. I'm just really scared of the sound level.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You will more than likely be issued Comtacs, and will likely be required to wear them. Those buds are solid though.
              I’m also being 100% sincere about the noise level not being that bad, I still have all of my hearing data and would post proofs if it wasn’t a hard doxx. The noise level increases exponentially with every increase in charge, so for example a 1L will be very quiet in comparison to a 5H. But you will not be shooting 5Hs all that often so you don’t have to worry about every mission being incredibly loud.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Peltors? Those were 28 dB NRR right?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t know, you are overthinking this lol. Don’t worry about the sound, it’s completely safe if you double up with foamies and the provided Peltors. Worry about learning your job and not being a retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Rah.

                Gunny: Hey Sgt, you see that mountain?
                Sgt: Yes, sir.
                Gunny: I don't like it there.
                Sgt: ...Proceeds to load the M777 with malicious intent...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Not wanting to shoot an m47
                NGMI

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > Gunny
                > Yes sir
                Fucking neverserves

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Foamies are why I can still hear after being a jet mech. Then and now I toss them in a shirt pocket since they're washable. I have bags in my shops too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            WHAT? ROASTIES IN CONTACT? WHO WAS LOST AND FOUND?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unrelated fast forward question: If I ever decide to keep a gig in the Corps (ie. reserves after AD), how's 5/14?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I could not say, don’t have any experience with the reserves.

              Was a 2131 years ago in mid gwot. Where the fuck is my nitrogen??

              Fell out of the truck :~~*

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Was a 2131 years ago in mid gwot. Where the fuck is my nitrogen??

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is more than enough
            Yea, see, I would never take this chance. Foamies aren't bad but a nice pair of earplugs cost like $25. It's worth it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Such as?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh another thing, you’ll do semi regular hearing tests and you’ll be able to see any change in your hearing. I can personally tell you that I was lazy about wearing earpro near the end of my time in. I had no hearing loss whatsoever, the memes about all artilleryman being deaf aren’t true at all. The only people that suffer hearing damage we’re egregiously retarded about not wearing ear pro. Also your chief is going to force you to wear it so don’t even worry about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Dunno, a lot of instructors have hearing aids. Maybe some Motor Ts are retarded and don't wear earpro too. I've heard stories of section chiefs not allowing muffs.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I can tell you with 100% certainty that a section chief that doesn’t allow earmuffs is a bad section chief. I never heard or experienced that as wearing PPE is both required and encouraged.

              https://i.imgur.com/jvSx1uL.png

              >What's the best ear pro for Arty dudes?
              Some sort of full head wraparound thing if you're allowed, like what aircraft carrier pit crew guys use.
              >I fear I'm gonna lose my hearing because even if you take away let's say 40 dB, it's still 140+ dB.
              This is correct. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FULLY PROTECT YOUR HEARING FROM ARTILLERY FIRE WITH JUST EARPRO. All there is to it, sorry anon. Definitely do the best you can if that's all there is so hopefully you don't go 100% deaf but you will start losing your hearing in high frequencies from the very first shot unless you have full worn gear.

              So again, ideally you'd have something like pic related, that can beat the earpro limit and give you >40dB of reduction. Whether that's something your unit will allow I have zero idea, no arty experience. See "Protecting beyond the bone-conduction limit"
              >https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51694410_Protecting_beyond_the_bone-conduction_limit

              This is bullshit lol, you are also not at the muzzle so the sound data for all of this is flawed. The brake directs the sound away from the crew. If your battery is competent then you won’t be in the blast radius of friendly pieces as well.
              Some of the instructors at Sill are violently retarded. Going deaf in artillery is 100% a choice.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Double up.
    Each time.
    Does not matter which models.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Double up. Foam inserts inside and electronic ear pro with sound cranked up.
    I don’t know how bad the concusive blast wave is though.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AMPs with NFMI ear plugs

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you were already given answers gay

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All you need comrade.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The absolute best ear pro you can get? Probably those helmets you see flight deck dudes wearing because after a certain point, you’ll literally just get sound and concussion reverberating straight through your skull no matter how much earpro you have, so something that helps mitigate that is ideal. Maybe the helmet that the dude in OP’s pic is wearing might help serve that role some too.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What's the best ear pro for Arty dudes?
    Some sort of full head wraparound thing if you're allowed, like what aircraft carrier pit crew guys use.
    >I fear I'm gonna lose my hearing because even if you take away let's say 40 dB, it's still 140+ dB.
    This is correct. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO FULLY PROTECT YOUR HEARING FROM ARTILLERY FIRE WITH JUST EARPRO. All there is to it, sorry anon. Definitely do the best you can if that's all there is so hopefully you don't go 100% deaf but you will start losing your hearing in high frequencies from the very first shot unless you have full worn gear.

    So again, ideally you'd have something like pic related, that can beat the earpro limit and give you >40dB of reduction. Whether that's something your unit will allow I have zero idea, no arty experience. See "Protecting beyond the bone-conduction limit"
    >https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51694410_Protecting_beyond_the_bone-conduction_limit

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dB is rated in a logarithmic scale. 10 dB is considered to be, to humans with a non linear sense of amplitude, a doubling of apparent loudness. so even a 40db reduction is extremely significant.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Consider this: The 183 dB of an M777 are closer to the threshold of 195 dB where sound waves become shockwaves, than it is from the 140 dB damage threshold.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        At the muzzle on a C5H. C5Hs will shatter windshields and cell phone screens that are too close but in all actuality you will be rarely shooting these and there is a hard cap on how many a crew can fire in 24 hours.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A lotta Arty guys don't wear ear pro or don't buy any gear

    this is real fuckin retarded. especially retarded. Wear two forms of earpro, the army should be telling you to do this and issuing you both. it's 183 at the barrel, stand behind the piece and it's 140-150.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Wear two forms of earpro
      I wear earplugs under earmuffs even shooting regular firearms much less firing fucking arty. What kind of neanderthal doesn't wear earpro?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be me
      >artillery FDC
      >shooting about to start
      >put in ear pro
      >feel a hand on my shoulder
      >"take your fucking ear pro out"
      Now I am deaf.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No you fucking aren’t but whatever.

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