God I really hope these wagner gays continue to go buck wild to the point where we get another Kasham situation but on a larger scale. Like Putin decides these guys need to go so he gives the nod to the CIA that they're no longer "his" and are free game.
no, it was real - the fact that it was a poorly thought and impulsive shitshow that led to the death of yet more russian servicemen, the shooting down of aircraft, and finally made putin look like a massive fucking pussy is confirmation of that if anything, the whole episode basically just another example of russian ineptitude, an almost perfect illustration of their inability to do anything properly.
i do love the cope from ziggers and polbots about this shitshow though, the whole idea that it was somehow staged is lulzy af, so pls keep it coming lol.
if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
Its literally "reflexive management" psyop straight from soviet books.
And yes some collateral damage was acceptable. Russians are disposable.
Point was to make is as believable as possible for putin to snuff out unloyal generals. Thats why russian media went soft as fuck on it. Thats why entire russian internet wasnt shutdown. If it was real coup they would went nuclear on them.
>If it was real coup they would went nuclear on them.
With what army? Almost all their forces are committed to Ukraine and Wagner is better equipped than most of them too.
>why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
You are a schizo
>if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
>oh no I shit and pissed myself while in public and everyone is laughing >well actually I shit and pissed myself on purpose >Hahaha, don't you look foolish for thinking I accidentally shit and pissed myseld
>if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
least schizofrenic 4chantard
>And yes some collateral damage was acceptable. Russians are disposable.
Strategic airborne command posts and EWAR helicopters, however, are quite definitely NOT disposable. They are, in fact, completely fucking irreplaceable for the Russians now.
Muh disposable works when you blow up a rnadom apartment complex full of old russkie boomers. It don't apply when you blow up extremely expensive, rare military equipment your rusted-through shitshow of an industrial sector cannot even produce anymore.
>West already considers Wagner fair game. France has Wagner on their list of terrorist groups.
That's more for the purposes of sanctions than drone strikes.
Though this is France's backyard so they'd be in a position to do it.
Theater to what end, gay? To epicly own PrepHole and make us look dumb by making Putin look like a fucking bitch? Explain the 4D chess here, because what it looks like is that this gay got exiled to Africa by another gay and it's his last chance to prove his worth before he gets executed.
>haha, we trolled the laotian bronzesmithing tappatalk group epic style by staging a fake coup, making ourselves look like imotent old men and rats fleeing a sinking ship, killing our own pilots and losing aircraft we can't replace >trolled them epically!
Imagine viewing an armed conflict through the lens of internet antipathies.
Kek what advantage does faking a coup have? Maybe ziggers are behind putin harder now but the rest of world is collectively laughing.
They most likely staged this to catch anyone who wanted to actually coup Putin by tricking them into outing themselves. Any stupid cost incurred can be explained by Russian incompetence. Member pic rel?
>stage a fake coup and take real casualties to draw out real conspirators
anon this is retarded as fuck and you'd have to be high on your own bullshit to believe it.
What part of Russians are retarded have you not figured out? If you want to understand them you need to learn to think like a retard. Do better.
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That image is fake by the way.
Doesn't even having a crude drawing of Russian soldiers helping each other kiss icons.
1 month ago
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Damnit anon don't leak the plans.
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Then the most plausible analysis is that Wagner genuinely wanted to be paid $200 to fuck off and Putin took that deal, and calling it a “coup” was a western mislabeling. Putin organizing it as a fake coup makes zero fucking sense. If he senses theres an undercurrent of people looking to undermine him, why wouldn’t he just do what the russians always do and quietly shoot them in the basement?
no, youre right, having a public kayfabe fight showing that your supposedly loyal PMC is willing to bend you over a barrel for money with absolutely no intervention from anybody is a great show of strength and is pure 5D chessmaster shit.
>little to no casualties in exange of purging your country of traitors
seems like a good plan to me
Also all losses were people under surovikin who was arrested after that, so probably a traitor, not only they did a splendid operation but they even killed cospirators while doing it
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I think we found the official copium distributor. Stop hogging it all for yourself cocksucker.
If this were true, wouldn't they have made a big show of announcing who the traitors were? As far as I know it all just kinda fizzled out right before it would've come to a head and then they quietly shuffled some people around.
Utterly false. There was no cheering. There were some civilians who tried to block the highway with (empty) vehicles. I haven’t seen even ONE Russian social media post supporting it, they all called Prigo a traitor who should be killed. Obviously, publicly supporting a coup-like activity is not advisable in Russia. Why can’t you people just accept common sense?
This is the most laughably false narrative surrounding the coup. Wagner are regarded as war heroes, people were shaking hands and taking photos with Prigozhin as he was leaving Rostov like they were meeting a movie star.
>haha, we trolled the laotian bronzesmithing tappatalk group epic style by staging a fake coup, making ourselves look like imotent old men and rats fleeing a sinking ship, killing our own pilots and losing aircraft we can't replace >trolled them epically!
Imagine viewing an armed conflict through the lens of internet antipathies.
Cope. Russia cannot into 4D chess. They could have just sent him and claimed mission accomplished in Bahkmut, instead it made him look like a retard and Putin look like a cuck.
>muh fake theatre
Losing irreplaceable strategic assets for a "fake theatre" that achieves nothing of real strategic impact is arguably even more retarded than causing mercs working for you to mutiny.
Sigh. There is evidence ONE chopper and that unarmed specialty plane, whatever it was. Everything else was made up by the usual Ukrainian infowar channels. Meanwhile Russia runs hundreds of sorties a DAY against Ukraine yet not ONE of those units could find the time to hit this dire threat aimed at Moscow. At sone point you have to stop being a sucker if you want to discuss reality.
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>le sigh
Sorry to hear about your hyper AIDS.
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there's imagery and russian confirmation of all of it. you are far too stupid to be such a smug gay. you never looked, but you did check a poorly-documented wikipedia article's infobox to confirm your bias. which makes you epistemically cucked far beyond any low-information my-dad-can-beat-up-ur-dad nationalist moron on the internet.
Not one of those sources shows evidence. I was there when the threads hit, I was doing image searches and finding one fake after another. Also the second guy you linked mentions he thinks the rebellion was fake on the next post down.
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no, it's time for you to get your copes straight. these are distinct and completely separable arguments:
1. no visual evidence for x
2. it was all a ruse anyway
3. x was only claimed by group y (implying that le PrepHoleedditorz have been fucked by psyops)
i just shat on your face for 3 bc it only takes a minute to do. now you're shifting back to 1 and 2, trying to complicate the narrative further with a newly introduced bit of FUD about 3 (the second link is @milhelipilot. he does no such thing as claim that he believes the rebellion is fake on the next post down, as you have just claimed.)
how hard would you like to be spanked? that's the only variable here. i'll come back later and fulfill the requested spanking order.
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I don't know what the term is for people like that. But people who don't care about an explanation, they care about talking points. Same as the people who claim that Jan. 6 was both just peaceful tourists who didn't do anything wrong, and also actually just Antifa, and also an FBI plot.
They're contradictive narratives, but what matters is you've been given permission to dismiss why this event is problematic to your side. What's important isn't objective reality- in fact objective reality sometimes helps the other side so there's no real need to engage in it unless it helps your side. What matters is supporting the tribe, supporting the narrative.
The alternative in their mind is 'gay hegemony' or some other stupid shit.
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this guy just wants to feel better than the unwashed masses and derives pleasure/satisfaction from deluding himself into believing that he is. actual cognitive elites are depressed about how much the baseline human model sucks and most seek to improve it.
pseud × fractured ideology
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moreover >Sigh.
gay
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>Sigh
1. Thanks for immediately proving that you're a worthless gay whose opinions and claims can be safely dismissed as irrelevant.
2. Kys, gay.
1 month ago
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You know, just cheering for a regime who needs to destroy its own assets and kill its own people should be a red flag. >le september 11 was an inside job
Let's put it this way because I know that's what going to run in that brain of yours, me pissing over a dead man doesnt give you the right to shit over the corpse, both things are evil.
Only if it was on accident. They might get their ship sunk by an unarmed NATO-nation merchant vessel while trying to sink it though.
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No, no. That's too retarded. That'd be as if the Russians launched a tactical nuke in response to F-16's being deployed, but it ends up failing halfway into its flight and slamming into a major logistical hub.
They downed a US drone earlier. They didn't shoot at it, a Russian pilot was showboating and banged into it destroying the propellor.
Also-
-During the Russo-Japanese War they sent the Baltic fleet to reinforce the destroyed eastern fleet composed of russian peasants who'd never seen a boat before.
-These recruits were so green they were in constant fear of surprise Japanese attacks the moment they left the harbor
-This lead to several incidents- such as friendly fire in the night when they mistook one of their own ships for a Japanese one, shooting at a British fishing boat where again they suffered friendly fire and led to the UK closing off the Suez Canal to them, and a gun salute for an admiral that died of disease that again caused another round of friendly fire.
The details are even worse, so no I don't doubt the Russians bumblefucking their way into WW3.
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An unmanned robot is a far cry from targeting a NATO naval asset. the US doesn't seem to regard as losing drones as a "true" loss in the same way losing a real aircraft is, probably because the pilot is the part that is the hardest to replace morally, politically, and practically (training time).
We can afford to lose a lot of reapers to mild harassment. We can't afford to lose a lot of pilots.
>You're completely wrong. Russians would never be so retarded that they would try and sink a NATO ship guarding a Ukrainian cargo ship, right?
NATO would not do shit about it, they would just print another trillion to send to Ukraine and increase the size of the IRS. NATO isnt even in the war right now.
Like, you just don't get it man, it's like Artaudian theatre of cruelty, like a violent rejection of the fasle reality we have chained ourself to, man.
>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
Truth, but not played, spammed. Concorde Group the company wager money flowed through for a decade also ran the 'Internet Research Agency' and Glavset. You can tell what a narcissistic little halfwit Prigozhin is as he has these idiots spamming that 'They love this little guy' here in between some complete lies about his 'coup'. Wagner is and always has been finabcially part of the Russian state and is entirely a GRU Russian military intelligence asset. Their role in Africa is to increase the immigration caravans into Europe to try and destabilase Europe while the Russian embassies work with populists on both extremes of the political spectrum to destabilise, polarise, divide and create political paralysis. Most Russian embassies and associated bank and internet access accounts and financial and internet services should be shut down and the Russian staff expelled. They are the conduits for funding, media and shill farm direction as well as part of the Russian VPN networks for spamming shitholes like 4chan. The French Foreign Legion should be wiping the floor with 'Wagner'
>>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all. >Truth, but not played, spammed. Concorde Group the company wager money flowed through for a decade also ran the 'Internet Research Agency' and Glavset. You can tell what a narcissistic little halfwit Prigozhin is as he has these idiots spamming that 'They love this little guy' here in between some complete lies about his 'coup'. Wagner is and always has been finabcially part of the Russian state and is entirely a GRU Russian military intelligence asset. Their role in Africa is to increase the immigration caravans into Europe to try and destabilase Europe while the Russian embassies work with populists on both extremes of the political spectrum to destabilise, polarise, divide and create political paralysis. Most Russian embassies and associated bank and internet access accounts and financial and internet services should be shut down and the Russian staff expelled. They are the conduits for funding, media and shill farm direction as well as part of the Russian VPN networks for spamming shitholes like 4chan. The French Foreign Legion should be wiping the floor with 'Wagner'
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto said on Monday that the rising number of migrants crossing the Mediterranean is part of "hybrid warfare" waged by Russia using mercenaries as proxies on countries supporting Ukraine.
"I think it is now safe to say that the exponential increase in the migratory phenomenon departing from African shores is also, to a not insignificant extent, part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare that the Wagner division is implementing, using its considerable weight in some African countries," Crosetto said in a statement.
https://www.dw.com/en/italy-blames-russias-wagner-group-for-surge-in-migration/a-64974923
>>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all. >Truth, but not played, spammed. Concorde Group the company wager money flowed through for a decade also ran the 'Internet Research Agency' and Glavset. You can tell what a narcissistic little halfwit Prigozhin is as he has these idiots spamming that 'They love this little guy' here in between some complete lies about his 'coup'. Wagner is and always has been finabcially part of the Russian state and is entirely a GRU Russian military intelligence asset. Their role in Africa is to increase the immigration caravans into Europe to try and destabilase Europe while the Russian embassies work with populists on both extremes of the political spectrum to destabilise, polarise, divide and create political paralysis. Most Russian embassies and associated bank and internet access accounts and financial and internet services should be shut down and the Russian staff expelled. They are the conduits for funding, media and shill farm direction as well as part of the Russian VPN networks for spamming shitholes like 4chan. The French Foreign Legion should be wiping the floor with 'Wagner'
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto said on Monday that the rising number of migrants crossing the Mediterranean is part of "hybrid warfare" waged by Russia using mercenaries as proxies on countries supporting Ukraine.
"I think it is now safe to say that the exponential increase in the migratory phenomenon departing from African shores is also, to a not insignificant extent, part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare that the Wagner division is implementing, using its considerable weight in some African countries," Crosetto said in a statement.
https://www.dw.com/en/italy-blames-russias-wagner-group-for-surge-in-migration/a-64974923
I think the clear solution is just to send them all to Russia.
What the fuck are the Russians going to do if we just heard thousands of the fuckers into their heartland through Georgia, Finland and (probably because they would like to keep Russia on the backfoot) Kazakhstan?
If they gun them down, then the West just spams thirdie Twitter and Facebook going "Hah, you dumb cunts. We told you Russia was evil" and that loses them the last bit of international good will they had.
They probably wouldn't even be able to shoot them anyway if they can't stop Ukies from just going on a roadtrip through Belgorod and bombing their capital every other day.
>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
Would be kinda fun so i'll believe it. The Ukraine war will end like the finish winter war anyway and everyone else saying otherwise is a bandwagon hand rubbing gay
This retard again. If you ask him what benefits Putin derived from making himself look weak he just spazzes out.
It’s normal for a regime like Russia’s. Everyone in the upper echelon are friends with Putin, or connected to a friend of Putin’s. There was a fight between two of Putin’s friends, Woody and Prigo which culminated in Prigo escalating to an open war against Woody. Things started to spiral out of control and Putin had to step in; that’s why Prigo instantly stood down and agreed to the deal with the convoy still on the road. That’s why Prigo’s reportedly seized gold was returned to him, why NONE of the Wagnerites got into trouble and why Prigo went back to Africa now apparently in business as if nothing happened. Putin settled a conflict between two of his friends, of course he isn’t going to kill anyone.
>NONE of the Wagnerites
Apart from Surovikin, who's getting an intimate knowledge of how much barbed wire can be stored in the human rectum right now.
moron, irreplaceable aircraft and pilots were killed. Roads towards Moscow were being destroyed with armed soldiers setting up makeshift defensive positions inside the city. There was nothing fake about it.
>the late-comer chuddie >pretending, at length, to be retarded enough to believe that russian elites and high command were pretending, at length, to be retarded enough to do a fake-coup was merely a ruse!!!
like pottery. no, spilling 10k words on your pet theory of how russia can still win isn't an ebic trole. it's being desperate for an angle.
With how this board looks like today, you have a big percentage of the shills butt blasted in this thread. They all sound like the same impotent angry chud nerd
>Theater just so Putin could be publicly humiliated all over Russia over being incapable of controlling his own mercenaries and needing Luka to reign them in.
Truly a Master Strategist.
I seriously belive this, though i'd never say it in public.
The reason for the 'coup' attempt was that Priggy sacrificed thousands of inmates in a useless battle like the cattle that they are. He had to perform that show that the families of the dead and the survivors wouldn't kill him. Im sure its easy to fake those downed planes. Inform their pilots that we will fire etc. But ofc he made russian army look fucking useless in the process wich got him killed now I guess.
>He had to perform that show that the families of the dead and the survivors wouldn't kill him.
What I find so amazing is that you say something so fucking fantastical immediately after >I seriously belive this, though i'd never say it in public.
Please, have a nice day you retarded chud.
>bombed by USA
USA isn't doing shit in Niger. If it doesn't care about Haiti, it doesn't care about Niger. Especially since EWOCAS or w/e the thing is is caring. Sort of.
Wagner is the one of the most effective fighting forces Russia has access to, and Prigozhin is the money behind it.
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Oops, meant for
>usurping your chain of command, fighting against your own countrymen, disregarding orders, moving to attack and seize your own country's cities
yeah that's not a coup like you can just do that whenever you want it's cool.
Honestly the most baffling thing to come out of this is that he's somehow still alive.
there are 1100 US troops in niger. the drone bases are operational. tongo tongo incident with 4 KIA preceded most of the drone ops.
>got stomped
they didn't really get stomped. they got disoriented and left behind, then gunned down on foot. the whole thing was retarded and incompetent.
lmao le Pussia monke had to take the massive rebellion L on the chin because Cuckner is pretty much Russia's foreign policy and he can't just get rid of them.
They already are. This trash fire didn't spontaneously erupt. These retards are stirring up shit wherever they can, hoping something falls out of the pot.
>Russia sees decades of US/UN involvement in the clusterfuck that is the African continent >Unironically thinks it's a good idea to jump in there itself.
Have fun, I guess.
wagner in particular gets paid in equity, so if they destabilize an area for a year or so, they can get permanent revenue streams (or at least as permanent as anything in africa can be while backed up with guns)
I bet anyone joining to slot Africans is getting sent to Ukraine while those with status in the organization get to cruise the desert sipping on vodka cocktails instead of dying in a real war
bone thru the nose and body paint, the whole thing.
Needs to be done
https://i.imgur.com/VqSi1W9.jpg
The Africa Arc is about to begin in earnest.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1693702652993954068
Is he not in the least bit worried about getting nabbed by Western intelligence? Even if the SBU don't have the assets to spare (which is a big if) I doubt the CIA, MI6, or the DGSE are above paying off some Tuaregs to haul him away into the desert and ship him to Ukraine. Back in Belarus all he had to worry about was Putin trying to backstab him, now he has to worry about that plus Western glowies and questionably loyal African soldiers and enemy militiamen and Al-Qaeda and a potential ECOWAS invasion, and if he suddenly disappears all of these groups have plausible deniability because of everyone else gunning for him. He'd have been better off sitting pretty in his little military base and waiting to see if someone else took another crack at Putin.
he's a dead man walking either way, you think no one in the russian government is gunning for him?
you think putin, the man who had spies killed in foreign countries with fucking polonium for revenge, isn't just waiting for the right moment to take his scalp?
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Putin's his biggest threat wherever he is, I guess I'm just operating on the logic that if you're going to have people coming after you it's better for there to be less of them. In Africa there's upwards of about half a dozen groups that might try to kidnap/murder him, but in Belarus and Russia there's only Putin and other political opponents, and it might be easier to see them coming.
It will be interesting to see what Wagner does if the West decides to intervene.
>Is he not in the least bit worried about getting nabbed by Western intelligence?
Prigozhin would be a goldmine of intelligence on Russia's military and government. The CIA/MI6/DGSE would probably offer him sanctuary in exchange for everything he knows.
The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody. It got out of control when some pilots lost their lives, civilians trying to block the convoy, municipality cutting up the highway, etc, so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
Lukashenko is the one who reportedly defused the situation. Putin was terrified. By several accounts, he was left seriously traumatized after seeing the video of Gaddafi being sodomized with a bayonet.
It's now been two months since the coup and I still have no fucking idea what was going on
There is no Occam's Razor explanation for it, every possible scenario has an unbelievably retarded detail derailing it
So I guess the Occam's Razor explanation is that sometimes incredibly retarded shit happens IRL, shit with no clear angle or benefit to anyone, shit that if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
And having seen "The Death of Stalin" apparently such events happen more often per capita in Russia than anywhere else on earth, a living Coen Brothers movie
You'd understand what was going on if you understood the prelude to it.
Basically Wagner was seen as a security risk by people in MoD, and were ordered to begin the process of integrating into the regular army. Prigozhin videotaped himself trying to deliver the necessary paperwork to the local MoD HQ, but was denied because all the desk ladies immediately went out to lunch the moment he arrived. He was being set up as a scapegoat for the war's failure, with his "refusal" to integrate Wagner into the Russian military as proof he was a traitor.
So instead of waiting to be arrested, he marched his army to Moscow in order to arrest members of the MoD. Hey, if they're going to accuse you of treason, might as well betray anyway. Obviously NOBODY involved wanted an actual downfall of Russia and overthrow of Putin (sad, I know), so when Putin began to panic that's when Wagner got cold feet - because they weren't after him, they were after MoD goons. So the coup was defused at the last minute by Potato Man, Prigozhin and Putin yelled at each other for a bit but Putin eventually realized Prigozhin was as loyal as a dog to him and thought he was helping the boss out by undermining his regime; and finally MoD got what they wanted while Prigozhin was exiled to Belarus, and now Africa.
This is correct but it’s worth noting that Putin was freaking the fuck out and was imagining himself being sodomized by a bayonet on live TV the whole time
Libya permanently scared him
The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody. It got out of control when some pilots lost their lives, civilians trying to block the convoy, municipality cutting up the highway, etc, so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
>The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody.
Imagine being proud to be part of a country where a mercenary group invades the capital to capture and execute the head of the ministry of defense.
>They thought that Wagner would take over and win it
I don't think anyone surveyed them on their exact beliefs about the war and a five point scale of disagree/agree about it.
They were definitely cheering on the convoy though and not blocking it.
Either way, the general psychology of a Russian is "Czar wants what is best for the country, evil boyars want to destroy it" and Wager was up against the Boyars sooooo...
Utterly false. There was no cheering. There were some civilians who tried to block the highway with (empty) vehicles. I haven’t seen even ONE Russian social media post supporting it, they all called Prigo a traitor who should be killed. Obviously, publicly supporting a coup-like activity is not advisable in Russia. Why can’t you people just accept common sense?
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>There was no cheering
We literally saw people cheering them.
Maybe Prigo's Joker rip-off was staged but we saw lots of street scenes with people waving and I don't think those were rent-a-crowds.
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There was a lot of cheering at the Wagner troops in Rostov-on-Don this was widely circulated at the time.
Now of course, I think people make too much of it. I think the Russian citizenry didn't really care, they just thought these were soldiers and far as they knew war-hero's, so I doubt they were supporting the overthrow of Putin, but just guys in uniform.
Plus- Putin tries to ensure apathy in Russians so they don't care about how shit the country is. Well that also translates into apathy that someones trying to overthrow the government too. Cuts both way. Also doesn't translate to real widespread support.
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Here a brave young Russian man blocks the barrel of the mutineer's tank at the risk of his own life.
>so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
Puyrin literally flew to the other side of the country, lmao.
It was Luka who deescalated the whole retarded parade.
You know how all the characters in The Sopranos are actually stupid and incompetent? That's the russian government and russians in general, they're just stupid criminals who have control over the government
>Prigo shit talks shoigu >Shoigu tries to take over wagner as punishment >Prigo cries to Putin >Putin gives him the cold shoulder >Prigo threatens to fuck over everyone with a coup >Putin bends over like a bitch >Now Prigo can have wagner and fuckoff to his usual safari adventures
Prigo wanted out of the Ukraine clusterfuck, that's all there is to it
>So I guess the Occam's Razor explanation is that sometimes incredibly retarded shit happens IRL, shit with no clear angle or benefit to anyone, shit that if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
That's how life is, yes.
>if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
Otherwise written by Mark Twain as: >It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.
They're more common throughout history than we tend to think. I mean think of Caligula and how he got the roman army to declare war on the ocean. It's just we don't make memes of him because he's a historical figure and that makes him feel somehow more important.
That said a lot of Russian history is characterized by rank incompetence. Also to note- Death of Stalin makes some weird mistakes: Firstly the government never fired on Russians coming for the funeral, they fired on East Germans who were protesting the USSR, which is an odd choice since that's a decent scandal as is. Second they portray the purges as ongoing up until Stalin's death, when they had all petered out by the 30's, another weird decision. I also find it weird they portray Molotov as a harmless old man when he was an infamously tough as nails diplomat.
It's a dark comedy: it makes a caricature of the USSR and compresses the worst part of stalinism into a single timeframe for comedic purposes, and I say it succeeds at that.
The Death of Stalin does the same thing with comparable results.
I just feel they could have stuck closer to the facts and gotten the same thing. It's ridiculous enough as is, and considering they do occasionally stop to go 'and also everyone involved here is pretty evil' I say they aren't just trying to go for the cheap laughs but trying to teach the audience a few things.
It was either fake theatre to cover for something (ie moving troops to Belarus) or an actual fight between Prigo and Woody. In either case Putin ended it the moment it starting going out of control with a chopper and plane going down. Anyone even a little knowledgeable about Russian politics knows Prigo is a CLOSE FRIEND of Putin’s. He would literally show up to MoD meetings referring to Putin as "papa", his fucking pet name for him. The thought he’d coup Putin is utterly absurd; he’s a petty crook who started doing stick-ups on the streets for women’s purses before getting into mob business after getting out of jail and then elevated after befriending Putin.
>It was either fake theatre to cover for something (ie moving troops to Belarus)
Retarded take by a retarded person. Why does Putin need to stage a show to move troops he commands? How fucking brain damaged are you? What the actual fuck is mentally wrong with you? Answer what your mother did to you, drink before you were born, drop you repeatedly, have sex with morons, what made you this fucking stupid? >The thought he’d coup Putin is utterly absurd;
Which is why him leading an army and pointing it towards moscow fighting against the Russian army as he went was absurd, but it happened you dumbfuck.
Good lord you people. Prigo himself said he wanted to Woody and MoD traitors to Justice, he NEVER referred to Putin, the Presidency or anything. The media turned it into a coup and you fucks ate it up as usual.
>usurping your chain of command, fighting against your own countrymen, disregarding orders, moving to attack and seize your own country's cities
yeah that's not a coup like you can just do that whenever you want it's cool.
Honestly the most baffling thing to come out of this is that he's somehow still alive.
It’s normal for a regime like Russia’s. Everyone in the upper echelon are friends with Putin, or connected to a friend of Putin’s. There was a fight between two of Putin’s friends, Woody and Prigo which culminated in Prigo escalating to an open war against Woody. Things started to spiral out of control and Putin had to step in; that’s why Prigo instantly stood down and agreed to the deal with the convoy still on the road. That’s why Prigo’s reportedly seized gold was returned to him, why NONE of the Wagnerites got into trouble and why Prigo went back to Africa now apparently in business as if nothing happened. Putin settled a conflict between two of his friends, of course he isn’t going to kill anyone.
this is the funniest dumb shit I've ever read like you think Russia is run like a manga or some shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>all according to KEIKAKU
Such is the mind of conspiracy theorists. It's all a part of some grand plan the rest of us are too stupid to see. Evidence that the people in power are actually stupid or incompetent are just evidence they're five steps ahead of us.
I mean consider the alternative- the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes. I mean of the two, which seems likelier to you?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes
ESPECIALLY in dictatorial regimes, its one of they key structural weaknesses that makes them less combat effective than democracies
1 month ago
Anonymous
>the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes
truer words have never been spoken
1 month ago
Anonymous
This. 'Cockup' theory has always seemed more grounded in reality then most conspiracy theories.
1 month ago
Anonymous
95% of conspiracies are attempts to cover up incompetence [citation: I made it up]
1 month ago
Anonymous
>the world is arbitrary
This is the reason why otherwise smart people can end up believing the most retarded shit. The insane lolrandumb arbitrariness of the world generates a visceral fear. The idea that everything beyond immediate daily existence is completely out of somebody's personal control is so utterly terrifying, that they invent coping mechanisms to delude themselves they can somehow "see behind the curtain", where there is none. This "special knowledge" makes them feel like they have wrested back even a minimum of control.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I just don't get that world view. It's the same as like pretending you believe in religion when you really don't. I'm concerned about reality, because reality isn't gonna conform to what I want, I want to survive it's gotta be the other way around. If the Universe is arbitrary we need to say 'okay how do we respond to that' and my answer would be try to ensure human society is not arbitrary cause we can control that. But it baffles me instead people go 'lets just pretend it's not'.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It has the same roots as religion does: the over-effectiveness of the human brain to see patterns, meaning, order, and intent where there is none. (i.e. schizophrenia, unironically)
The ancient caveman who offers food to the Spirits Of The Sky so that they won't burn down his forest is no different than the modern-day basement-man who is screaming about alien lizard people creating pacts with demons to burn down his state's national park.
They are different.
There’s been some attempts made to study schizophrenics in remote African villages where they believe voices in the head are normal and that biting into goats and drinking their blood is normal.
Talks about it at 50mins in and gives a great description of the African schizo.
Conclusion is that even in cultures like that schizos do not behave normally. They perform the rituals in the wrong way. They do not hear the voices like the normies hear the voices.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I mean consider the alternative- the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes. I mean of the two, which seems likelier to you?
Better question, which is scarier to you: That the world is run by evil people and everything is going according to plan, or the world is actually run by retards who think they're much smarter than they actually are and their ineptitude or hubris guides policy?
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's one of those moments that would result in endless bitching about being unrealistic if it were real.
>So the villain is willing to poison people who slight him in any way... but then this guy starts an armed coup and he just... lets him live???
1 month ago
Anonymous
Is Russia being run by the actual Mafia any better?
What you just described is still a coup.
Using your private army to remove a nation's military leadership and presenting the president with a fait accompli is like the definition of a coup.
If your pretorian guards haven't performed a lightning march on your capital, can you even call yourself truly democratic? Not understanding the necessity of having armed warlords in your country is why west is getting cucked by globohomo
You’ve been compromised by willful ignorance and propaganda consumption. Prigo is a minor mob figure who came out of the streets of Leningrad doing petty robbery, landed in jail, got out and into a restaurant business where he befriended Putin and got into his inner circle and made his fortune on government food contracts. His pet name for Putin is "Papa" which he likes to throw around to remind everyone who’s behind him. He owes everything he has and is to Putin, and if Putin ever falls he’ll be nothing but a minor mobster with some money. It’s absurd to think he’d run a coup against his big daddy friend, and in fact NEVER even suggested he wanted to coup Putin. It was always about his war with Woody, it was the media running a propaganda line about a coup and you people consumed it as usual. And early in the war I heard CNN fucking TALKING about the strategy of using Western media against Putin to try and drive a wedge into his inner circle — of course they were discussing it as a theoretical topic but in reality that’s exactly what the government has been using the media for. Stop being a sucker. A mark. A jabroni.
You really wanna go for the gangster analogy that's fine, since the Russian state functions similarly to an organized crime syndicate anyway; Prigo made a challenge to the don or the mob boss, greased a dozen or so mooks, and was finally convinced to fall into line by either threats, promises, or a combination of both, the whole episode smoothed over and peace conveniently facilitated by a neutral third party, some other fucking don - call it what you will, an attempted coup, insurrection, a botched revolution or whatever, it still was a massively draining event for the state as it showed how rickety the command structure actually is, how weak Putin is also in terms of guaranteeing stability or maintaining a grasp on power also.
The idea that this entire spectacle was somehow organized by the FSB, of benefit to the Russian state, or something that could make Putin look stronger is outright retarded.
My opinion at the time was that Priggo's aim was removing his rivals in the MoD, replacing them with his own stooges, gaining Putin's blessing after the fact (sort of like one of those 500 000 000 japanese interwar coups) and framing it like a patriotic act of removing bad boyars and saving the nation.
But fuck if I know now.
There's no reason to think that the Wagner Coup was faked when the Russians were shooting down their own helicopters unless you are just conditioned to believe everything in the news is some psyop. What most likely happened in Prigozhin thought he had more support that he did- either that he had backers in the upper circles that backed down, or he thought he was gonna start some popular uprising that never materialized (or both). The bigger question of course is why Putin continues to let him live of course.
Why the need for theater when Putin had already staged troops in Belarus on several occasions, already had Wagner in Africa and already has troops in Syria? It makes no sense. Occam's razor here is some gay tried a coup against another gay and a potato gay actually brokered a deal to prevent a civil conflict. They exiled the Wagner gays to Africa to do gay shit and that's it. It's straight up medieval politics.
But Ukraine is already defending an axis attack close to Kiev due to the tens of thousands of Russian troops in Belarus since the very first day the war started!
They've still got a shitload of former convicts in their ranks, so I imagine the prison rape traditions are still alive and well in Wagner.
https://i.imgur.com/G4vSvtg.png
You'd understand what was going on if you understood the prelude to it.
Basically Wagner was seen as a security risk by people in MoD, and were ordered to begin the process of integrating into the regular army. Prigozhin videotaped himself trying to deliver the necessary paperwork to the local MoD HQ, but was denied because all the desk ladies immediately went out to lunch the moment he arrived. He was being set up as a scapegoat for the war's failure, with his "refusal" to integrate Wagner into the Russian military as proof he was a traitor.
So instead of waiting to be arrested, he marched his army to Moscow in order to arrest members of the MoD. Hey, if they're going to accuse you of treason, might as well betray anyway. Obviously NOBODY involved wanted an actual downfall of Russia and overthrow of Putin (sad, I know), so when Putin began to panic that's when Wagner got cold feet - because they weren't after him, they were after MoD goons. So the coup was defused at the last minute by Potato Man, Prigozhin and Putin yelled at each other for a bit but Putin eventually realized Prigozhin was as loyal as a dog to him and thought he was helping the boss out by undermining his regime; and finally MoD got what they wanted while Prigozhin was exiled to Belarus, and now Africa.
STAY TUNED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE OF RUSSIA BALL Z!
The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody. It got out of control when some pilots lost their lives, civilians trying to block the convoy, municipality cutting up the highway, etc, so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
This is about right except you're forgetting the part where the FSB allegedly started threatening peoples families, possibly Utkin's, who was rumored to be leading the column to Moscow while Prigozhin hung out in Rostov.
>Does Wagner require participating in group homorape
Probably not, they consider themselves hardened professionals.
I don't know if there's a difference between old wagner and new wagner though, it's not clear how many losses they took from their core contractors as opposed to their penal battalions.
In a phone intercept published by Ukraine, some Wagner guy complained that they couldn't go into town for shopping because their unit was confined to their position and was told it was because someone raped a girl and they didn't know who it was so everyone was locked down to positions. The guy on the call didn't make fun of the rape or anything, just acknowledged the explanation.
>Does Wagner require participating in group homorape
Probably not, they consider themselves hardened professionals.
I don't know if there's a difference between old wagner and new wagner though, it's not clear how many losses they took from their core contractors as opposed to their penal battalions.
In a phone intercept published by Ukraine, some Wagner guy complained that they couldn't go into town for shopping because their unit was confined to their position and was told it was because someone raped a girl and they didn't know who it was so everyone was locked down to positions. The guy on the call didn't make fun of the rape or anything, just acknowledged the explanation.
Wagner, as a illegal mercenary syndicate owned by the Russian Mafia, does not get fucked, that's for the filthy undesirables below them. They will only rape if its them who are doing it to others.
Anyone who is claiming the coup was fake is ignoring everything leading up to the coup, as well as the various rivalries within the Russian military.
It was only a surprise in that modern first or second world countries don't experience these kind of putsches. Unless you are France. France is a very special boy.
The Second Congo War practically was WW3 with how many nations were involved and was the biggest conflict in human history since WW2 but no one really paid much attention because it was a black people war.
In 4 months time Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger will be mined to shit halting any progression and devolving into tribal nomads while the rest keep developing. Ecowas wins again
>it's not going to change the fact that post-Wagner Mutiny Russia is for all intents and purposes, a failed state with nuclear weapons. And everyone fucking know it.
My theory is that Prigozhin agreed to call things off because he would've just waltzed through Moscow with barely any resistance and it would've completely shattered the illusion for even the most die-hard Russian nationalists. At the end of the day he's still part of and reliant on the Russian state. At least we can take solace in the fact that, for now, the person most likely to lead a successful coup is out of the picture
why is he larping so hard with those mags he's definitely not going to ever use? Does he expect people to believe his fat ass is going out and shooting at armed combatants?
They were planning on running a massive pipeline from the Nigerian oil fields through Niger to Europe. this would provide an energy source to compete with Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pRdWs3VpFE8
>why does this matter
Putin's whole thing is energy. Its the lynchpin of his entire strategy for Russian regeneration as President since he got into power all those years ago is to leverage RU hydrocarbons to not only generate revenue for RU but also gain a political tool to use against Europe. He is such a big energy nerd he even wrote a thesis on the topic:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250171761_The_Putin_Thesis_and_Russian_Energy_Policy
You are now aware of the root causes for the following: >Syrian crisis? >proposed pipelines from Iraq and Qatar to Europe. Assad is in the way, US/EU tries to topple him, RU has to prop him up at all costs >Ukraine war? >26th biggest oil and gas reserve in the world is located in Eastern Ukraine, if outside RU control could pose a serious risk of competition.
You also now understand why Nigeria is gun-ho about going balls deep into Niger.
Note that Libya doesnt really fit into the picture of hydrocarbon wars, that whole episode was just Hillary and Obama being retards and Sarkozy getting rid of someone who *possibly* had dirt on him.
the main problem with the image you are creating is that
a) planning as in "people have proposed it and it is possible"
b) the current durka durka islamists means this will be starting anytime soon
c) the pipes connecting the southern and northern med are all for gas
this would take at least a decade to be build
so plenty of time to trow a wrench in the works then. But first this plan would need financing, the only one that could do this would be a European consortium and the EU wants to get rid of oil and gas. So why invest dousens of billions in laying a pipe to pipe things over that you are planning on no longer needing by the time the pipe is build?
Not everything is hybrocarbon war annon, Bush isn't in power and this isn't 2005
NTA but there have been times were democratically elected governments and even private corporations, not just autocracies, could plan decades ahead, that the current generation has become so used to "click for immediate results" is one of our biggest faults and the source to so many of our troubles.
No wonder why so many people have replaced children with lapdogs.
I saw a graph showing the number of civ deaths is 10x higher now with wagner than what it was with the french...
Honestly thank you Wagner and I hope you take over all Africa
million dead wagnerites can't bring the joy of one dead r3dditor and all the coping, tears, cringy puns and empty threats on /r/onkraine
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sar, this is not reddit. You won't get paid if you shill on the wrong website
1 month ago
Anonymous
>a life of a fagnerite is 1000 000 times less valuable than a life of a redditor
Based moderate.
1 month ago
Anonymous
In all honestly it's a life better spent to die on the battlefield than become 4ch poster or reddit upboater.
For every single post I see here I know there are disappointed parents with broken heart behind it.
>mostly middle aged Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Belorussians, etc
Yeah I'm sure they all had 100k karma, these clearly look like the typical reddit browsing demographic.
Those are Ukrainian foreign volunteers who died. 4chan being the schizos they assume all of them are glowies or redditors. Just like anyone who disagrees with them online.
>anyone remember how Putin did a televised address comparing Wagner's coup to fucking 1917?
"The answer to 1984 is 1917 if you take our firearms!" -- Dimitry Priggu
Where from does this man pull his energy? Like he's not young, looks quite out of shape yet he's fucking everywhere not to mention all the stress that comes with it. How can he do it?
he's only 62.
stimulants exist.
he's not the ops guy – utkin is.
he gets flown by private jet everywhere.
highly motivated because it all benefits him.
not all that complicated really.
In all honestly it's a life better spent to die on the battlefield than become 4ch poster or reddit upboater.
For every single post I see here I know there are disappointed parents with broken heart behind it.
>4ch poster
go back to your dvach interracial pornography thread
>And yes some collateral damage was acceptable. Russians are disposable.
Strategic airborne command posts and EWAR helicopters, however, are quite definitely NOT disposable. They are, in fact, completely fucking irreplaceable for the Russians now.
Muh disposable works when you blow up a rnadom apartment complex full of old russkie boomers. It don't apply when you blow up extremely expensive, rare military equipment your rusted-through shitshow of an industrial sector cannot even produce anymore.
notice how he completely gave up replying to any of us as soon as it became clear he was arguing with people who know more than him about the subject matter and aren't pol-tier pushover retards. wish there were mosh pits in every major city where you go to crush bugmen to death on your lunch break
>you have shit boomer / legacy taste in drugs >therefore i don't get out of the house
sure anon. extremely good eugeroics with few side effects exist now, and any geezer who needs to meet an energizer bunny warlord schedule is definitely using them in tandem with stimulants. meanwhile, people who want to have fun and not spend all their pocket money on a drug with completely ass effects for 30–45 minutes and an outsized comedown are taking entactogens like 3- and 4-fma, whatever interesting-lookin substituted tryptamines are grey market or otherwise easy to pick up in their local market, etc. let's hear about how you party hard with weak bullshit a high school student can synthesize in their bedroom though, right after they're done learning how to do aspirin.
Just declare them hostis humani generis and openly offer a bounty for any member of Wagner. Identifiable severed head + ID & documents. Increased bounty for live officers, then send them to the CIA black site in Morocco to be tortured until they die from the trauma.
>An Embraer Legacy 600 Business Jet going by RA-02795 which is Registered to Leader of the Wagner PMC Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin has reportedly Crashed in the Tver Region of Russia to the Northwest of Moscow resulting in the Death of all 4 who were Onboard; it is currently Unknown if Prigozhin was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1694393105355518089
>The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations has now stated that 10 Individuals were aboard the Aircraft when it Crashed and that there are No Survivors.
but >Prigozhin was last seen with Members of the Wagner Group a few days ago in the West African Nation of Mali so it is unlike that he was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
>Prigozhin was last seen with Members of the Wagner Group a few days ago in the West African Nation of Mali
Yea but anon did you know that planes can transport people aound the world in less than a a day?
oh fuck i would be 100% sadge if prigoo is kill he had the best story arch. generally a interesting guy that i would love to survive these times to write a book(s) about the last years
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1694397266641993955 >Russia, Tver Oblast: Evgeniy Prigozhin reportedly dead as a result of a plane crash.
place your bets
Netflix just announced the Africa arc was cancelled
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1694397266641993955 >Russia, Tver Oblast: Evgeniy Prigozhin reportedly dead as a result of a plane crash.
place your bets
have noticed this.
a thread querying the type of missile used to shoot down the plane just got erased also - too bad, since it was actually about weapons on a board that's also about weapons.
>russian space vessel crashes into the moon >go to sleep and wake up >ukies steal a russian transport helicopter with spare parts for jets >go cook some food >come back >pringles fucking dies
what the FUCK is going on
Would be kino if this happens >Putin exterminates civilians, priests, artists, schoolgirls, war heroes, glowies, veterans, celebrities... nobody bats an eye >Putin kills one war boss, the boiz are suddenly purging Moscow
Depends. Is Wagner more loyal to Priggy or the Russian state? I imagine every soldier involved in the mutiny is asking himself some serious questions right now.
>lose Robotyne >crash on moon and pajeets land without screwing up >helicopter defects >lose 2 Tu-22s >Crimea AA getting bombed >cope and seethe by shooting down Priggy instead of arresting and executing
Russia is weak
Wow, that's surprising! I just got a new neighbor today, his name is Gaskar Darwish, and I think he fought in the Syrian Civil War, he might now more about this should I ask him? >pic related, it's Gaskar
YES THERE WERE TIMES
I'M SURE YOU KNEW
I BIT OFF
MORE THAN I COULD CHEW
BUT THROUGH IT ALL
WHEN THERE WAS DOUBT
I ATE IT UP
AND SPIT IT OUT
I FACED IT ALL
AND I STOOD TALL
AND DID IT
MYYY WAAAAAYYYYY
>Ukraine offensive stalled and failing objectives >Prigo and Utkin removed from the equation >support waning in Europe and US, elections coming up in 2024
Zamn pudding might actually hold on
Not him but driving today they said something like 71% of Republican voters are against sending more aid. Granted, it's because these people being polled are retarded and don't understand that when we say we're sending another 40 billion to Ukraine, we're not sending them 40b DOLLARS, it's 40b worth in military equipment we already paid for 30 years ago,
If someone just sat down and articulated a pro right of center reason why sending our hand-me-downs to destroy Russia's future chances to chimp out ever the attitude would change overnight, but we are run by gay retards.
Forgot to add, it's somewhat of a pointless discussion as ultimately doesn't matter what the voters think as by design, the voting public doesn't have much say on foreign policies because the average voter is fickle and often doesn't see the big picture. And who the next president doesn't change that because the president doesn't control where our money goes, congress does and congress is solidly pro-Ukraine.
Because politicians are slaves to public opinion up until the point where they're actually elected (and re-elected), then they don't have to care because they already got it.
God I really hope these wagner gays continue to go buck wild to the point where we get another Kasham situation but on a larger scale. Like Putin decides these guys need to go so he gives the nod to the CIA that they're no longer "his" and are free game.
The revolt was fake, dude. You can admit it now.
>The revolt was fake, dude. You can admit it now.
no, it was real - the fact that it was a poorly thought and impulsive shitshow that led to the death of yet more russian servicemen, the shooting down of aircraft, and finally made putin look like a massive fucking pussy is confirmation of that if anything, the whole episode basically just another example of russian ineptitude, an almost perfect illustration of their inability to do anything properly.
i do love the cope from ziggers and polbots about this shitshow though, the whole idea that it was somehow staged is lulzy af, so pls keep it coming lol.
if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
Its literally "reflexive management" psyop straight from soviet books.
And yes some collateral damage was acceptable. Russians are disposable.
Point was to make is as believable as possible for putin to snuff out unloyal generals. Thats why russian media went soft as fuck on it. Thats why entire russian internet wasnt shutdown. If it was real coup they would went nuclear on them.
>If it was real coup they would went nuclear on them.
With what army? Almost all their forces are committed to Ukraine and Wagner is better equipped than most of them too.
>why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
You are a schizo
>if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
a regular Ө-anon
>oh no I shit and pissed myself while in public and everyone is laughing
>well actually I shit and pissed myself on purpose
>Hahaha, don't you look foolish for thinking I accidentally shit and pissed myseld
>if it wasnt staged, why the stroboscopic lights fired out at the biggest theatre in moscow in the evening before rostov occupation but after prigozhin started the whole thing? There werent any plays at the time, it was a signal/announcement that entire thing is a "play".
least schizofrenic 4chantard
>And yes some collateral damage was acceptable. Russians are disposable.
Strategic airborne command posts and EWAR helicopters, however, are quite definitely NOT disposable. They are, in fact, completely fucking irreplaceable for the Russians now.
Muh disposable works when you blow up a rnadom apartment complex full of old russkie boomers. It don't apply when you blow up extremely expensive, rare military equipment your rusted-through shitshow of an industrial sector cannot even produce anymore.
West already considers Wagner fair game. France has Wagner on their list of terrorist groups.
>West already considers Wagner fair game. France has Wagner on their list of terrorist groups.
That's more for the purposes of sanctions than drone strikes.
Though this is France's backyard so they'd be in a position to do it.
>the nod to the CIA that they're no longer "his"
Like if CIA can take them out, they would probably start blowing shit up inside US.
and then the triple stupid shit will start.
You have a boomer/normie understanding of the world
A close family member of yours is going to die soon and it’s because I manifested it through intense meditation.
He really did get exiled.
No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
Theater to what end, gay? To epicly own PrepHole and make us look dumb by making Putin look like a fucking bitch? Explain the 4D chess here, because what it looks like is that this gay got exiled to Africa by another gay and it's his last chance to prove his worth before he gets executed.
I guess that it was to distract from the real situation somehow being even worse than 'president flees from coup attempt by disgruntled chef'
>coup was fake theater
uh, so Putin did it solely to entertain me with how hilariously inept his military is? Mission accomplished then.
They most likely staged this to catch anyone who wanted to actually coup Putin by tricking them into outing themselves. Any stupid cost incurred can be explained by Russian incompetence. Member pic rel?
>stage a fake coup and take real casualties to draw out real conspirators
anon this is retarded as fuck and you'd have to be high on your own bullshit to believe it.
What part of Russians are retarded have you not figured out? If you want to understand them you need to learn to think like a retard. Do better.
That image is fake by the way.
Doesn't even having a crude drawing of Russian soldiers helping each other kiss icons.
Damnit anon don't leak the plans.
Then the most plausible analysis is that Wagner genuinely wanted to be paid $200 to fuck off and Putin took that deal, and calling it a “coup” was a western mislabeling. Putin organizing it as a fake coup makes zero fucking sense. If he senses theres an undercurrent of people looking to undermine him, why wouldn’t he just do what the russians always do and quietly shoot them in the basement?
no, youre right, having a public kayfabe fight showing that your supposedly loyal PMC is willing to bend you over a barrel for money with absolutely no intervention from anybody is a great show of strength and is pure 5D chessmaster shit.
How did you come about those battle plans?
>little to no casualties in exange of purging your country of traitors
seems like a good plan to me
Also all losses were people under surovikin who was arrested after that, so probably a traitor, not only they did a splendid operation but they even killed cospirators while doing it
I think we found the official copium distributor. Stop hogging it all for yourself cocksucker.
If this were true, wouldn't they have made a big show of announcing who the traitors were? As far as I know it all just kinda fizzled out right before it would've come to a head and then they quietly shuffled some people around.
This is the most laughably false narrative surrounding the coup. Wagner are regarded as war heroes, people were shaking hands and taking photos with Prigozhin as he was leaving Rostov like they were meeting a movie star.
There are no traitors in putin's regime
just arrested officers
>shoot down several aircraft
>JUST A PRANK, BRO!
Ebin, just ebin
>haha, we trolled the laotian bronzesmithing tappatalk group epic style by staging a fake coup, making ourselves look like imotent old men and rats fleeing a sinking ship, killing our own pilots and losing aircraft we can't replace
>trolled them epically!
Imagine viewing an armed conflict through the lens of internet antipathies.
Cope. Russia cannot into 4D chess. They could have just sent him and claimed mission accomplished in Bahkmut, instead it made him look like a retard and Putin look like a cuck.
Kek what advantage does faking a coup have? Maybe ziggers are behind putin harder now but the rest of world is collectively laughing.
Those helicopters and JET AIRCRAFT(!!!) were merely pawns in the epic theatre fake that trolled holhols epic style
Putin's theatre seems to only stage comedies.
>muh fake theatre
Losing irreplaceable strategic assets for a "fake theatre" that achieves nothing of real strategic impact is arguably even more retarded than causing mercs working for you to mutiny.
Things were running out of control. Usual Russian shit. That’s why it was ended so suddenly. If you recall PrepHole was mad with blue-balling.
Sure, it just ran out of control. To the tune of 3 specialised EWAR helicopters and a strategic airborne command post getting blapped.
You do realise that this makes the Russkies even more retarded than it jsut being a mutiny and Priggie getting cold feet, right?
Sigh. There is evidence ONE chopper and that unarmed specialty plane, whatever it was. Everything else was made up by the usual Ukrainian infowar channels. Meanwhile Russia runs hundreds of sorties a DAY against Ukraine yet not ONE of those units could find the time to hit this dire threat aimed at Moscow. At sone point you have to stop being a sucker if you want to discuss reality.
>le sigh
Sorry to hear about your hyper AIDS.
there's imagery and russian confirmation of all of it. you are far too stupid to be such a smug gay. you never looked, but you did check a poorly-documented wikipedia article's infobox to confirm your bias. which makes you epistemically cucked far beyond any low-information my-dad-can-beat-up-ur-dad nationalist moron on the internet.
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/12898
https://t.me/milhelipilot/1281
https://t.me/rybar/48990
https://janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/russian-air-force-suffers-significant-losses-in-wagner-mutiny
Not one of those sources shows evidence. I was there when the threads hit, I was doing image searches and finding one fake after another. Also the second guy you linked mentions he thinks the rebellion was fake on the next post down.
no, it's time for you to get your copes straight. these are distinct and completely separable arguments:
1. no visual evidence for x
2. it was all a ruse anyway
3. x was only claimed by group y (implying that le PrepHoleedditorz have been fucked by psyops)
i just shat on your face for 3 bc it only takes a minute to do. now you're shifting back to 1 and 2, trying to complicate the narrative further with a newly introduced bit of FUD about 3 (the second link is @milhelipilot. he does no such thing as claim that he believes the rebellion is fake on the next post down, as you have just claimed.)
how hard would you like to be spanked? that's the only variable here. i'll come back later and fulfill the requested spanking order.
I don't know what the term is for people like that. But people who don't care about an explanation, they care about talking points. Same as the people who claim that Jan. 6 was both just peaceful tourists who didn't do anything wrong, and also actually just Antifa, and also an FBI plot.
They're contradictive narratives, but what matters is you've been given permission to dismiss why this event is problematic to your side. What's important isn't objective reality- in fact objective reality sometimes helps the other side so there's no real need to engage in it unless it helps your side. What matters is supporting the tribe, supporting the narrative.
The alternative in their mind is 'gay hegemony' or some other stupid shit.
this guy just wants to feel better than the unwashed masses and derives pleasure/satisfaction from deluding himself into believing that he is. actual cognitive elites are depressed about how much the baseline human model sucks and most seek to improve it.
pseud × fractured ideology
moreover
>Sigh.
gay
>Sigh
1. Thanks for immediately proving that you're a worthless gay whose opinions and claims can be safely dismissed as irrelevant.
2. Kys, gay.
You know, just cheering for a regime who needs to destroy its own assets and kill its own people should be a red flag.
>le september 11 was an inside job
Let's put it this way because I know that's what going to run in that brain of yours, me pissing over a dead man doesnt give you the right to shit over the corpse, both things are evil.
>muh inside job
kys shitter
F A G G O T.
>Russians are retarded
You find this hard to believe?
Hey hear me out,
Everytime that someone assumes something is too retarded to do the russians actually do it.
So its entirely possible.
You're completely wrong. Russians would never be so retarded that they would try and sink a NATO ship guarding a Ukrainian cargo ship, right?
Only if it was on accident. They might get their ship sunk by an unarmed NATO-nation merchant vessel while trying to sink it though.
No, no. That's too retarded. That'd be as if the Russians launched a tactical nuke in response to F-16's being deployed, but it ends up failing halfway into its flight and slamming into a major logistical hub.
They downed a US drone earlier. They didn't shoot at it, a Russian pilot was showboating and banged into it destroying the propellor.
Also-
-During the Russo-Japanese War they sent the Baltic fleet to reinforce the destroyed eastern fleet composed of russian peasants who'd never seen a boat before.
-These recruits were so green they were in constant fear of surprise Japanese attacks the moment they left the harbor
-This lead to several incidents- such as friendly fire in the night when they mistook one of their own ships for a Japanese one, shooting at a British fishing boat where again they suffered friendly fire and led to the UK closing off the Suez Canal to them, and a gun salute for an admiral that died of disease that again caused another round of friendly fire.
The details are even worse, so no I don't doubt the Russians bumblefucking their way into WW3.
An unmanned robot is a far cry from targeting a NATO naval asset. the US doesn't seem to regard as losing drones as a "true" loss in the same way losing a real aircraft is, probably because the pilot is the part that is the hardest to replace morally, politically, and practically (training time).
We can afford to lose a lot of reapers to mild harassment. We can't afford to lose a lot of pilots.
>You're completely wrong. Russians would never be so retarded that they would try and sink a NATO ship guarding a Ukrainian cargo ship, right?
NATO would not do shit about it, they would just print another trillion to send to Ukraine and increase the size of the IRS. NATO isnt even in the war right now.
Like, you just don't get it man, it's like Artaudian theatre of cruelty, like a violent rejection of the fasle reality we have chained ourself to, man.
>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
Truth, but not played, spammed. Concorde Group the company wager money flowed through for a decade also ran the 'Internet Research Agency' and Glavset. You can tell what a narcissistic little halfwit Prigozhin is as he has these idiots spamming that 'They love this little guy' here in between some complete lies about his 'coup'. Wagner is and always has been finabcially part of the Russian state and is entirely a GRU Russian military intelligence asset. Their role in Africa is to increase the immigration caravans into Europe to try and destabilase Europe while the Russian embassies work with populists on both extremes of the political spectrum to destabilise, polarise, divide and create political paralysis. Most Russian embassies and associated bank and internet access accounts and financial and internet services should be shut down and the Russian staff expelled. They are the conduits for funding, media and shill farm direction as well as part of the Russian VPN networks for spamming shitholes like 4chan. The French Foreign Legion should be wiping the floor with 'Wagner'
>>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
>Truth, but not played, spammed. Concorde Group the company wager money flowed through for a decade also ran the 'Internet Research Agency' and Glavset. You can tell what a narcissistic little halfwit Prigozhin is as he has these idiots spamming that 'They love this little guy' here in between some complete lies about his 'coup'. Wagner is and always has been finabcially part of the Russian state and is entirely a GRU Russian military intelligence asset. Their role in Africa is to increase the immigration caravans into Europe to try and destabilase Europe while the Russian embassies work with populists on both extremes of the political spectrum to destabilise, polarise, divide and create political paralysis. Most Russian embassies and associated bank and internet access accounts and financial and internet services should be shut down and the Russian staff expelled. They are the conduits for funding, media and shill farm direction as well as part of the Russian VPN networks for spamming shitholes like 4chan. The French Foreign Legion should be wiping the floor with 'Wagner'
Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto said on Monday that the rising number of migrants crossing the Mediterranean is part of "hybrid warfare" waged by Russia using mercenaries as proxies on countries supporting Ukraine.
"I think it is now safe to say that the exponential increase in the migratory phenomenon departing from African shores is also, to a not insignificant extent, part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare that the Wagner division is implementing, using its considerable weight in some African countries," Crosetto said in a statement.
https://www.dw.com/en/italy-blames-russias-wagner-group-for-surge-in-migration/a-64974923
I think the clear solution is just to send them all to Russia.
What the fuck are the Russians going to do if we just heard thousands of the fuckers into their heartland through Georgia, Finland and (probably because they would like to keep Russia on the backfoot) Kazakhstan?
If they gun them down, then the West just spams thirdie Twitter and Facebook going "Hah, you dumb cunts. We told you Russia was evil" and that loses them the last bit of international good will they had.
They probably wouldn't even be able to shoot them anyway if they can't stop Ukies from just going on a roadtrip through Belgorod and bombing their capital every other day.
Putin got clowned in front of his entire country.
He planned it.
Clowned in front of his entire country? HE WAS CLOWNED IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE PLANET!
>No, he returned to Africa to continue operations there. The "coup" was fake theatre and PrepHole got played hard, that’s all.
Would be kinda fun so i'll believe it. The Ukraine war will end like the finish winter war anyway and everyone else saying otherwise is a bandwagon hand rubbing gay
It looks a lot more the polish-soviet war, so I'm expecting it to end like that.
Was making Russia look even more retarded and incompetent than normal part of Putin's 5D interdimensional monke business?
This fucking gay took Putin's money and fucked off and left his men to be slaughtered. Fucking dumb gay bitch.
It's almost as if Prigozhin is and has always been a malignant narcissist or something...
Theatre to what end?
This retard again. If you ask him what benefits Putin derived from making himself look weak he just spazzes out.
>NONE of the Wagnerites
Apart from Surovikin, who's getting an intimate knowledge of how much barbed wire can be stored in the human rectum right now.
>Merely pretending to be a failed state!
>Returned to Africa under his own power
What's their next hilarious prank? Sink their own submarines to make fun of PrepHole?
moron, irreplaceable aircraft and pilots were killed. Roads towards Moscow were being destroyed with armed soldiers setting up makeshift defensive positions inside the city. There was nothing fake about it.
christ PrepHole is getting too easy to bait
>the late-comer chuddie
>pretending, at length, to be retarded enough to believe that russian elites and high command were pretending, at length, to be retarded enough to do a fake-coup was merely a ruse!!!
like pottery. no, spilling 10k words on your pet theory of how russia can still win isn't an ebic trole. it's being desperate for an angle.
now get in the cube and fucking dilate
With how this board looks like today, you have a big percentage of the shills butt blasted in this thread. They all sound like the same impotent angry chud nerd
>Theater just so Putin could be publicly humiliated all over Russia over being incapable of controlling his own mercenaries and needing Luka to reign them in.
Truly a Master Strategist.
>theatre
In that it's the comedy of the century, yes
I seriously belive this, though i'd never say it in public.
The reason for the 'coup' attempt was that Priggy sacrificed thousands of inmates in a useless battle like the cattle that they are. He had to perform that show that the families of the dead and the survivors wouldn't kill him. Im sure its easy to fake those downed planes. Inform their pilots that we will fire etc. But ofc he made russian army look fucking useless in the process wich got him killed now I guess.
So you're an absolute idiot, is what you're saying.
>muh fake downed planes
The plane and helicopters were less replaceable for Russia than the crews, dipshit. And said crews died to a man.
>He had to perform that show that the families of the dead and the survivors wouldn't kill him.
What I find so amazing is that you say something so fucking fantastical immediately after
>I seriously belive this, though i'd never say it in public.
Please, have a nice day you retarded chud.
Remember, you will live with the embarrassment for the rest of your life.
The only way you can escape it is by killing yourself.
ZISTERS QUICK WE NEED A NEW NARRATIVE
Pivot bro!
Anon... you might need to sit down for what I'm about to tell you.
OH NO NO NO NO
banan
how do we tell him
Bro if you're that good at jinxing things, how about you tell us where DB Cooper's money definitely isn't?
Bazinga.
Is this "fake theater" in this room right now ?
I am once again asking for your personnel support.
funny
SEVERELY underrated comment.
The rebellious yet cowardly garden gnome has to live with Blacks while his family is under FSB threat in the capital. Kino
they are retarded, somebody will break opsec with posting shit to instagram and they will get bombed by usaf
>Wagner getting bombed by USA in Niger
Ayy lmao
>bombed by USA
USA isn't doing shit in Niger. If it doesn't care about Haiti, it doesn't care about Niger. Especially since EWOCAS or w/e the thing is is caring. Sort of.
US drone strike could kill him, it worked for killing Qasem Soleiman and it will work here too.
That would be an act of war.
not if the missile is polonium tipped, then it's just a prank between friends
>Radiological Hellfire
I’m erect thinking about it, put some of those R9X blades (but made out of uranium) and I will cum
I was thinking of a storm shadow with a cup of radioactive tea where the warhead should be, but that also works
Chill bro it's just a special military operation
Against?
But I thought Wagner had no affiliation with the Russian government, as a private military corporation? :3
Wagner is the one of the most effective fighting forces Russia has access to, and Prigozhin is the money behind it.
Oops, meant for
Against what retard Russia claims Wagner isn’t owned by the state
>Russia claims
Who cares what they claim? Russian truth is never what they claim.
Soon.
We no longer operate in Niger ever since those Green berets got stomped by those African ISIS larpers
there are 1100 US troops in niger. the drone bases are operational. tongo tongo incident with 4 KIA preceded most of the drone ops.
>got stomped
they didn't really get stomped. they got disoriented and left behind, then gunned down on foot. the whole thing was retarded and incompetent.
New wagner soldiers just dropped
SAS operatives ready for pickup
lmao le Pussia monke had to take the massive rebellion L on the chin because Cuckner is pretty much Russia's foreign policy and he can't just get rid of them.
What are the chances they get directly involved with the African intervention in Niger?
They already are. This trash fire didn't spontaneously erupt. These retards are stirring up shit wherever they can, hoping something falls out of the pot.
>Russia sees decades of US/UN involvement in the clusterfuck that is the African continent
>Unironically thinks it's a good idea to jump in there itself.
Have fun, I guess.
Wagner has been stirring shit in Africa for close to a decade at this point.
Strategically speaking, if Russia can eject European powers from Europe then their Chinese masters can fill the void.
wagner in particular gets paid in equity, so if they destabilize an area for a year or so, they can get permanent revenue streams (or at least as permanent as anything in africa can be while backed up with guns)
Wow he literally escaped to africa, where will his wacky antics take him next?
Los angeles, maybe even new york in a comedic road trip across the US.
I bet anyone joining to slot Africans is getting sent to Ukraine while those with status in the organization get to cruise the desert sipping on vodka cocktails instead of dying in a real war
BEGGING for selfies of him in blackface
The world needs this
bone thru the nose and body paint, the whole thing.
Needs to be done
Is he not in the least bit worried about getting nabbed by Western intelligence? Even if the SBU don't have the assets to spare (which is a big if) I doubt the CIA, MI6, or the DGSE are above paying off some Tuaregs to haul him away into the desert and ship him to Ukraine. Back in Belarus all he had to worry about was Putin trying to backstab him, now he has to worry about that plus Western glowies and questionably loyal African soldiers and enemy militiamen and Al-Qaeda and a potential ECOWAS invasion, and if he suddenly disappears all of these groups have plausible deniability because of everyone else gunning for him. He'd have been better off sitting pretty in his little military base and waiting to see if someone else took another crack at Putin.
he's a dead man walking either way, you think no one in the russian government is gunning for him?
you think putin, the man who had spies killed in foreign countries with fucking polonium for revenge, isn't just waiting for the right moment to take his scalp?
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Putin's his biggest threat wherever he is, I guess I'm just operating on the logic that if you're going to have people coming after you it's better for there to be less of them. In Africa there's upwards of about half a dozen groups that might try to kidnap/murder him, but in Belarus and Russia there's only Putin and other political opponents, and it might be easier to see them coming.
>paying off some Tuaregs to haul him away into the desert
He does have a private army around him.
It will be interesting to see what Wagner does if the West decides to intervene.
>Is he not in the least bit worried about getting nabbed by Western intelligence?
Prigozhin would be a goldmine of intelligence on Russia's military and government. The CIA/MI6/DGSE would probably offer him sanctuary in exchange for everything he knows.
Lukashenko is the one who reportedly defused the situation. Putin was terrified. By several accounts, he was left seriously traumatized after seeing the video of Gaddafi being sodomized with a bayonet.
Wagner vs ECOWAS is gonna be kino
It's now been two months since the coup and I still have no fucking idea what was going on
There is no Occam's Razor explanation for it, every possible scenario has an unbelievably retarded detail derailing it
So I guess the Occam's Razor explanation is that sometimes incredibly retarded shit happens IRL, shit with no clear angle or benefit to anyone, shit that if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
And having seen "The Death of Stalin" apparently such events happen more often per capita in Russia than anywhere else on earth, a living Coen Brothers movie
they played chicken and everybody blinked
You'd understand what was going on if you understood the prelude to it.
Basically Wagner was seen as a security risk by people in MoD, and were ordered to begin the process of integrating into the regular army. Prigozhin videotaped himself trying to deliver the necessary paperwork to the local MoD HQ, but was denied because all the desk ladies immediately went out to lunch the moment he arrived. He was being set up as a scapegoat for the war's failure, with his "refusal" to integrate Wagner into the Russian military as proof he was a traitor.
So instead of waiting to be arrested, he marched his army to Moscow in order to arrest members of the MoD. Hey, if they're going to accuse you of treason, might as well betray anyway. Obviously NOBODY involved wanted an actual downfall of Russia and overthrow of Putin (sad, I know), so when Putin began to panic that's when Wagner got cold feet - because they weren't after him, they were after MoD goons. So the coup was defused at the last minute by Potato Man, Prigozhin and Putin yelled at each other for a bit but Putin eventually realized Prigozhin was as loyal as a dog to him and thought he was helping the boss out by undermining his regime; and finally MoD got what they wanted while Prigozhin was exiled to Belarus, and now Africa.
STAY TUNED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE OF RUSSIA BALL Z!
This is correct but it’s worth noting that Putin was freaking the fuck out and was imagining himself being sodomized by a bayonet on live TV the whole time
Libya permanently scared him
The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody. It got out of control when some pilots lost their lives, civilians trying to block the convoy, municipality cutting up the highway, etc, so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
>The Occam’s explanation is EXACTLY what Prigo said it was: a March on the MoD HQ to get Woody.
Imagine being proud to be part of a country where a mercenary group invades the capital to capture and execute the head of the ministry of defense.
> so Putin stepped in to end the situation
You mean Lukashenko, Putin ran like a bitch
>civilians trying to block the convoy
Dude, the civilians were cheering it on because they thought he was going to depose Putin and end the war.
That can't have been a comforting sight for the Kremlin.
Other way round. They thought that Wagner would take over and win it.
>They thought that Wagner would take over and win it
I don't think anyone surveyed them on their exact beliefs about the war and a five point scale of disagree/agree about it.
They were definitely cheering on the convoy though and not blocking it.
Either way, the general psychology of a Russian is "Czar wants what is best for the country, evil boyars want to destroy it" and Wager was up against the Boyars sooooo...
Utterly false. There was no cheering. There were some civilians who tried to block the highway with (empty) vehicles. I haven’t seen even ONE Russian social media post supporting it, they all called Prigo a traitor who should be killed. Obviously, publicly supporting a coup-like activity is not advisable in Russia. Why can’t you people just accept common sense?
>There was no cheering
We literally saw people cheering them.
Maybe Prigo's Joker rip-off was staged but we saw lots of street scenes with people waving and I don't think those were rent-a-crowds.
There was a lot of cheering at the Wagner troops in Rostov-on-Don this was widely circulated at the time.
Now of course, I think people make too much of it. I think the Russian citizenry didn't really care, they just thought these were soldiers and far as they knew war-hero's, so I doubt they were supporting the overthrow of Putin, but just guys in uniform.
Plus- Putin tries to ensure apathy in Russians so they don't care about how shit the country is. Well that also translates into apathy that someones trying to overthrow the government too. Cuts both way. Also doesn't translate to real widespread support.
Here a brave young Russian man blocks the barrel of the mutineer's tank at the risk of his own life.
>Stepped in
>By fleeing the capital like a moron
>so Putin stepped in to end the situation.
Puyrin literally flew to the other side of the country, lmao.
It was Luka who deescalated the whole retarded parade.
Just assume they are retards. It explains why not one but two of their nuclear delivery assets got taken out by fucking quadcopter drones
You know how all the characters in The Sopranos are actually stupid and incompetent? That's the russian government and russians in general, they're just stupid criminals who have control over the government
>Prigo shit talks shoigu
>Shoigu tries to take over wagner as punishment
>Prigo cries to Putin
>Putin gives him the cold shoulder
>Prigo threatens to fuck over everyone with a coup
>Putin bends over like a bitch
>Now Prigo can have wagner and fuckoff to his usual safari adventures
Prigo wanted out of the Ukraine clusterfuck, that's all there is to it
>So I guess the Occam's Razor explanation is that sometimes incredibly retarded shit happens IRL, shit with no clear angle or benefit to anyone, shit that if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
That's how life is, yes.
>if you wrote it in a movie somebody would say "Wow you're a fucking terrible writer"
Otherwise written by Mark Twain as:
>It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.
>sometimes incredibly retarded shit happens IRL
>sometimes
Anon...
They're more common throughout history than we tend to think. I mean think of Caligula and how he got the roman army to declare war on the ocean. It's just we don't make memes of him because he's a historical figure and that makes him feel somehow more important.
That said a lot of Russian history is characterized by rank incompetence. Also to note- Death of Stalin makes some weird mistakes: Firstly the government never fired on Russians coming for the funeral, they fired on East Germans who were protesting the USSR, which is an odd choice since that's a decent scandal as is. Second they portray the purges as ongoing up until Stalin's death, when they had all petered out by the 30's, another weird decision. I also find it weird they portray Molotov as a harmless old man when he was an infamously tough as nails diplomat.
The war against the sea thing was to humiliate his legion for failure in a battle, Caligula was slandered by the senate after he died
It's a dark comedy: it makes a caricature of the USSR and compresses the worst part of stalinism into a single timeframe for comedic purposes, and I say it succeeds at that.
The Death of Stalin does the same thing with comparable results.
I just feel they could have stuck closer to the facts and gotten the same thing. It's ridiculous enough as is, and considering they do occasionally stop to go 'and also everyone involved here is pretty evil' I say they aren't just trying to go for the cheap laughs but trying to teach the audience a few things.
>There is no Occam's Razor explanation for it
Running political interference against Western will/support,
>"see look how WEAK we are, we would TOTALLY negotiate if only Ukraine was REASONABLE and not REVANCHIST."
Whatever the authenticity that's the spin they want; it can serve dual purposes.
You are interpreting Occam’s razor as if everyone involved are rational actors, the true simple explanation is that everyone involved suffers from FAS
> In the meantime the universe will continue to subvert expectations. Expect the unexpected.
I just want to see potato in Rhodesia style shorts, is that too much to ask?
It was either fake theatre to cover for something (ie moving troops to Belarus) or an actual fight between Prigo and Woody. In either case Putin ended it the moment it starting going out of control with a chopper and plane going down. Anyone even a little knowledgeable about Russian politics knows Prigo is a CLOSE FRIEND of Putin’s. He would literally show up to MoD meetings referring to Putin as "papa", his fucking pet name for him. The thought he’d coup Putin is utterly absurd; he’s a petty crook who started doing stick-ups on the streets for women’s purses before getting into mob business after getting out of jail and then elevated after befriending Putin.
>It was either fake theatre to cover for something (ie moving troops to Belarus)
Retarded take by a retarded person. Why does Putin need to stage a show to move troops he commands? How fucking brain damaged are you? What the actual fuck is mentally wrong with you? Answer what your mother did to you, drink before you were born, drop you repeatedly, have sex with morons, what made you this fucking stupid?
>The thought he’d coup Putin is utterly absurd;
Which is why him leading an army and pointing it towards moscow fighting against the Russian army as he went was absurd, but it happened you dumbfuck.
Good lord you people. Prigo himself said he wanted to Woody and MoD traitors to Justice, he NEVER referred to Putin, the Presidency or anything. The media turned it into a coup and you fucks ate it up as usual.
This. It's perfectly normal for paramilitary forces to march on your nation's capital.
>usurping your chain of command, fighting against your own countrymen, disregarding orders, moving to attack and seize your own country's cities
yeah that's not a coup like you can just do that whenever you want it's cool.
Honestly the most baffling thing to come out of this is that he's somehow still alive.
It’s normal for a regime like Russia’s. Everyone in the upper echelon are friends with Putin, or connected to a friend of Putin’s. There was a fight between two of Putin’s friends, Woody and Prigo which culminated in Prigo escalating to an open war against Woody. Things started to spiral out of control and Putin had to step in; that’s why Prigo instantly stood down and agreed to the deal with the convoy still on the road. That’s why Prigo’s reportedly seized gold was returned to him, why NONE of the Wagnerites got into trouble and why Prigo went back to Africa now apparently in business as if nothing happened. Putin settled a conflict between two of his friends, of course he isn’t going to kill anyone.
this is the funniest dumb shit I've ever read like you think Russia is run like a manga or some shit.
>all according to KEIKAKU
Such is the mind of conspiracy theorists. It's all a part of some grand plan the rest of us are too stupid to see. Evidence that the people in power are actually stupid or incompetent are just evidence they're five steps ahead of us.
I mean consider the alternative- the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes. I mean of the two, which seems likelier to you?
>people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes
ESPECIALLY in dictatorial regimes, its one of they key structural weaknesses that makes them less combat effective than democracies
>the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes
truer words have never been spoken
This. 'Cockup' theory has always seemed more grounded in reality then most conspiracy theories.
95% of conspiracies are attempts to cover up incompetence [citation: I made it up]
>the world is arbitrary
This is the reason why otherwise smart people can end up believing the most retarded shit. The insane lolrandumb arbitrariness of the world generates a visceral fear. The idea that everything beyond immediate daily existence is completely out of somebody's personal control is so utterly terrifying, that they invent coping mechanisms to delude themselves they can somehow "see behind the curtain", where there is none. This "special knowledge" makes them feel like they have wrested back even a minimum of control.
I just don't get that world view. It's the same as like pretending you believe in religion when you really don't. I'm concerned about reality, because reality isn't gonna conform to what I want, I want to survive it's gotta be the other way around. If the Universe is arbitrary we need to say 'okay how do we respond to that' and my answer would be try to ensure human society is not arbitrary cause we can control that. But it baffles me instead people go 'lets just pretend it's not'.
It has the same roots as religion does: the over-effectiveness of the human brain to see patterns, meaning, order, and intent where there is none. (i.e. schizophrenia, unironically)
The ancient caveman who offers food to the Spirits Of The Sky so that they won't burn down his forest is no different than the modern-day basement-man who is screaming about alien lizard people creating pacts with demons to burn down his state's national park.
The world is indeed chaos, and their (involuntary) answer is "no, no, this was no accident, it's all part of The Plan™©®, see?"
They are different.
There’s been some attempts made to study schizophrenics in remote African villages where they believe voices in the head are normal and that biting into goats and drinking their blood is normal.
Talks about it at 50mins in and gives a great description of the African schizo.
Conclusion is that even in cultures like that schizos do not behave normally. They perform the rituals in the wrong way. They do not hear the voices like the normies hear the voices.
>I mean consider the alternative- the world is arbitrary and stupid and incompetent people can rise to the highest echelons of power even in dictatorial regimes. I mean of the two, which seems likelier to you?
Better question, which is scarier to you: That the world is run by evil people and everything is going according to plan, or the world is actually run by retards who think they're much smarter than they actually are and their ineptitude or hubris guides policy?
It's one of those moments that would result in endless bitching about being unrealistic if it were real.
>So the villain is willing to poison people who slight him in any way... but then this guy starts an armed coup and he just... lets him live???
Is Russia being run by the actual Mafia any better?
What about the 'traitor' wagnerites who were filmed having dey throats slit?
I haven’t heard of that happening.
What you just described is still a coup.
Using your private army to remove a nation's military leadership and presenting the president with a fait accompli is like the definition of a coup.
bros forgot how to use the word putsch
If your pretorian guards haven't performed a lightning march on your capital, can you even call yourself truly democratic? Not understanding the necessity of having armed warlords in your country is why west is getting cucked by globohomo
You’ve been compromised by willful ignorance and propaganda consumption. Prigo is a minor mob figure who came out of the streets of Leningrad doing petty robbery, landed in jail, got out and into a restaurant business where he befriended Putin and got into his inner circle and made his fortune on government food contracts. His pet name for Putin is "Papa" which he likes to throw around to remind everyone who’s behind him. He owes everything he has and is to Putin, and if Putin ever falls he’ll be nothing but a minor mobster with some money. It’s absurd to think he’d run a coup against his big daddy friend, and in fact NEVER even suggested he wanted to coup Putin. It was always about his war with Woody, it was the media running a propaganda line about a coup and you people consumed it as usual. And early in the war I heard CNN fucking TALKING about the strategy of using Western media against Putin to try and drive a wedge into his inner circle — of course they were discussing it as a theoretical topic but in reality that’s exactly what the government has been using the media for. Stop being a sucker. A mark. A jabroni.
Seems like Putin fell for it too seeing as he ran like a bitch.
He did? Proof?
He and his staff left Moscow. This is news to you?
Flight tracker of Russia’s version of airforce one running away
You really wanna go for the gangster analogy that's fine, since the Russian state functions similarly to an organized crime syndicate anyway; Prigo made a challenge to the don or the mob boss, greased a dozen or so mooks, and was finally convinced to fall into line by either threats, promises, or a combination of both, the whole episode smoothed over and peace conveniently facilitated by a neutral third party, some other fucking don - call it what you will, an attempted coup, insurrection, a botched revolution or whatever, it still was a massively draining event for the state as it showed how rickety the command structure actually is, how weak Putin is also in terms of guaranteeing stability or maintaining a grasp on power also.
The idea that this entire spectacle was somehow organized by the FSB, of benefit to the Russian state, or something that could make Putin look stronger is outright retarded.
My opinion at the time was that Priggo's aim was removing his rivals in the MoD, replacing them with his own stooges, gaining Putin's blessing after the fact (sort of like one of those 500 000 000 japanese interwar coups) and framing it like a patriotic act of removing bad boyars and saving the nation.
But fuck if I know now.
There's no reason to think that the Wagner Coup was faked when the Russians were shooting down their own helicopters unless you are just conditioned to believe everything in the news is some psyop. What most likely happened in Prigozhin thought he had more support that he did- either that he had backers in the upper circles that backed down, or he thought he was gonna start some popular uprising that never materialized (or both). The bigger question of course is why Putin continues to let him live of course.
Why the need for theater when Putin had already staged troops in Belarus on several occasions, already had Wagner in Africa and already has troops in Syria? It makes no sense. Occam's razor here is some gay tried a coup against another gay and a potato gay actually brokered a deal to prevent a civil conflict. They exiled the Wagner gays to Africa to do gay shit and that's it. It's straight up medieval politics.
To give them a cover story as exiled so Ukraine won’t be defending against an axis attack close to Kiev.
But Ukraine is already defending an axis attack close to Kiev due to the tens of thousands of Russian troops in Belarus since the very first day the war started!
That’s retarded. Do they think US satellites don’t work over Belarus?
Family betrayal among politicians isn't that uncommon through human history.
oh you sweet sweet child. just take a tiny peek at human history.
Does Wagner require participating in group homorape, or is that strictly a RU Army practice?
captcha: DPRNV
They've still got a shitload of former convicts in their ranks, so I imagine the prison rape traditions are still alive and well in Wagner.
This is about right except you're forgetting the part where the FSB allegedly started threatening peoples families, possibly Utkin's, who was rumored to be leading the column to Moscow while Prigozhin hung out in Rostov.
>Does Wagner require participating in group homorape
Probably not, they consider themselves hardened professionals.
I don't know if there's a difference between old wagner and new wagner though, it's not clear how many losses they took from their core contractors as opposed to their penal battalions.
In a phone intercept published by Ukraine, some Wagner guy complained that they couldn't go into town for shopping because their unit was confined to their position and was told it was because someone raped a girl and they didn't know who it was so everyone was locked down to positions. The guy on the call didn't make fun of the rape or anything, just acknowledged the explanation.
Wagner, as a illegal mercenary syndicate owned by the Russian Mafia, does not get fucked, that's for the filthy undesirables below them. They will only rape if its them who are doing it to others.
Read the center of the flag in English!
>For those too stupid it reads All garden gnomeS 2050
Anyone who is claiming the coup was fake is ignoring everything leading up to the coup, as well as the various rivalries within the Russian military.
It was only a surprise in that modern first or second world countries don't experience these kind of putsches. Unless you are France. France is a very special boy.
>first or second world countries don't experience these kind of putsches. Unless you are France
That hasn't happened in years.
True. However, France is still a very special boy.
will WW3 be in Africa?
>will WW3 be in Africa?
I mean, WW1 and WW2 already were...
God I love the Panzer III so much bros
The Second Congo War practically was WW3 with how many nations were involved and was the biggest conflict in human history since WW2 but no one really paid much attention because it was a black people war.
In 4 months time Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger will be mined to shit halting any progression and devolving into tribal nomads while the rest keep developing. Ecowas wins again
>it's not going to change the fact that post-Wagner Mutiny Russia is for all intents and purposes, a failed state with nuclear weapons. And everyone fucking know it.
My theory is that Prigozhin agreed to call things off because he would've just waltzed through Moscow with barely any resistance and it would've completely shattered the illusion for even the most die-hard Russian nationalists. At the end of the day he's still part of and reliant on the Russian state. At least we can take solace in the fact that, for now, the person most likely to lead a successful coup is out of the picture
>world war
>limited to one continent
anon...
why is he larping so hard with those mags he's definitely not going to ever use? Does he expect people to believe his fat ass is going out and shooting at armed combatants?
For any anons wondering what this is about.
They were planning on running a massive pipeline from the Nigerian oil fields through Niger to Europe. this would provide an energy source to compete with Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pRdWs3VpFE8
>why does this matter
Putin's whole thing is energy. Its the lynchpin of his entire strategy for Russian regeneration as President since he got into power all those years ago is to leverage RU hydrocarbons to not only generate revenue for RU but also gain a political tool to use against Europe. He is such a big energy nerd he even wrote a thesis on the topic:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250171761_The_Putin_Thesis_and_Russian_Energy_Policy
You are now aware of the root causes for the following:
>Syrian crisis?
>proposed pipelines from Iraq and Qatar to Europe. Assad is in the way, US/EU tries to topple him, RU has to prop him up at all costs
>Ukraine war?
>26th biggest oil and gas reserve in the world is located in Eastern Ukraine, if outside RU control could pose a serious risk of competition.
You also now understand why Nigeria is gun-ho about going balls deep into Niger.
Note that Libya doesnt really fit into the picture of hydrocarbon wars, that whole episode was just Hillary and Obama being retards and Sarkozy getting rid of someone who *possibly* had dirt on him.
the main problem with the image you are creating is that
a) planning as in "people have proposed it and it is possible"
b) the current durka durka islamists means this will be starting anytime soon
c) the pipes connecting the southern and northern med are all for gas
this would take at least a decade to be build
so plenty of time to trow a wrench in the works then. But first this plan would need financing, the only one that could do this would be a European consortium and the EU wants to get rid of oil and gas. So why invest dousens of billions in laying a pipe to pipe things over that you are planning on no longer needing by the time the pipe is build?
Not everything is hybrocarbon war annon, Bush isn't in power and this isn't 2005
NTA but there have been times were democratically elected governments and even private corporations, not just autocracies, could plan decades ahead, that the current generation has become so used to "click for immediate results" is one of our biggest faults and the source to so many of our troubles.
No wonder why so many people have replaced children with lapdogs.
and because I forgot it in my reply
this map is from 2006, if a project is "in planning" for 17 years it's never getting build
Look at how well Africa is doing with Wagner
they're going to get that multipolar ass in ass alright
I saw a graph showing the number of civ deaths is 10x higher now with wagner than what it was with the french...
Honestly thank you Wagner and I hope you take over all Africa
Well deserved.
I find this absolute mad lad endlessly amusing. I really hope someone makes a movie about this guy one day
theres a pretty good chance i reckon he would fund one himself someday, he seems to enjoy the spotlight a bit too much for his own good
From marching to Moscow to sniffing sweaty, smelly AIDS infested morons assess, haha, he's such a winner.
beats killing shitty polacks and redditors in onkraine
He's looking for more retards, to join him in Africa, why don't you join him gay?
Why are you so obsessed with Poland?
Can't stand their butthurt, bootlicking and inferiority complexes.
Cringiest of all slavs.
simmer down russoid, they're definitely far, far above you on the Slav hierarchy.
Considering the ratio of losses it was rather "participating in a socially dangerous form of a group suicide" than "killing".
Amen on that my man. Doubt any of initial famous r3ddit volunteers are alive today.
Sir. It's 7:00 PM.
Not the time, as it were, to wish anyone a good morning.
It's 7pm in Warsaw, time to attend a church mass and not shitpost here bezimenny
It's 7pm everywhere following CET.
Including the small Swedish town I live in, Hamjeet Pingh.
The poland ball will raise a rectum and russian prolapse will understand everything.
LMAO. Wagner lost well over 200 guys for every one in that pic of yours. And that's just in Bakhmut alone.
>100 dead fagnerites for 1 dead redditor by conservative estimates
million dead wagnerites can't bring the joy of one dead r3dditor and all the coping, tears, cringy puns and empty threats on /r/onkraine
Sar, this is not reddit. You won't get paid if you shill on the wrong website
>a life of a fagnerite is 1000 000 times less valuable than a life of a redditor
Based moderate.
In all honestly it's a life better spent to die on the battlefield than become 4ch poster or reddit upboater.
For every single post I see here I know there are disappointed parents with broken heart behind it.
then go enlist to join the frontline, pussy
>mostly middle aged Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Belorussians, etc
Yeah I'm sure they all had 100k karma, these clearly look like the typical reddit browsing demographic.
Those are Ukrainian foreign volunteers who died. 4chan being the schizos they assume all of them are glowies or redditors. Just like anyone who disagrees with them online.
anyone remember how Putin did a televised address comparing Wagner's coup to fucking 1917?
No you memoryhole that shit.
It's what George Orwell predicted. He was basing all that off of dealing with Stalinists in the Spanish Civil War.
Party lines are ditched as they become inconvenient.
i dont get it. only vatniks memoryholed the coup
No we're not allowed to watch russian media here, it's censored and blocked bcause of free speech I guess.
>anyone remember how Putin did a televised address comparing Wagner's coup to fucking 1917?
"The answer to 1984 is 1917 if you take our firearms!" -- Dimitry Priggu
I really want to see who ends up being more incompetent between wagner nigs and ecowas nigs. Will be an interesting fight for sure.
>https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1693702652993954068
WEBM.
Where from does this man pull his energy? Like he's not young, looks quite out of shape yet he's fucking everywhere not to mention all the stress that comes with it. How can he do it?
>Where from does this man pull his energy?
"Go" pills.
It's how Alex Jones hypes himself up for his shows.
he's only 62.
stimulants exist.
he's not the ops guy – utkin is.
he gets flown by private jet everywhere.
highly motivated because it all benefits him.
not all that complicated really.
>4ch poster
go back to your dvach interracial pornography thread
notice how he completely gave up replying to any of us as soon as it became clear he was arguing with people who know more than him about the subject matter and aren't pol-tier pushover retards. wish there were mosh pits in every major city where you go to crush bugmen to death on your lunch break
Super Male Vitality
He probably doesn't eat like total shit I'd guess.
Cocaine, he's a mobster after all.
coke is a club drug. and even for that purpose, it pales in comparison to modern alternatives. it's got a half-life of literally 30 minutes.
>coke is a club drug
You don't get out of the house.
>you have shit boomer / legacy taste in drugs
>therefore i don't get out of the house
sure anon. extremely good eugeroics with few side effects exist now, and any geezer who needs to meet an energizer bunny warlord schedule is definitely using them in tandem with stimulants. meanwhile, people who want to have fun and not spend all their pocket money on a drug with completely ass effects for 30–45 minutes and an outsized comedown are taking entactogens like 3- and 4-fma, whatever interesting-lookin substituted tryptamines are grey market or otherwise easy to pick up in their local market, etc. let's hear about how you party hard with weak bullshit a high school student can synthesize in their bedroom though, right after they're done learning how to do aspirin.
Time to get bayraktared again.
Couldn't the US just drone wagner in Africa? What are the Russians gunna do?
I think it's more about the US not wanting to swing it's dick around. That pisses people off.
Now if a war breaks out in Niger, and we back people invading them, well then it's fair game.
>a wise man denied his homeland
Oh thank god he's back, Priggy is an endless source of laughs for PrepHole
>Niger With Nukes
Just declare them hostis humani generis and openly offer a bounty for any member of Wagner. Identifiable severed head + ID & documents. Increased bounty for live officers, then send them to the CIA black site in Morocco to be tortured until they die from the trauma.
Shut the fuck up moderate hippie
>IA black site in Morocco to be tortured until they die from the trauma.
> Violent torture and gore fantasies
You must be a moron.
So, when will the French Emp-Republic restore control.
>An Embraer Legacy 600 Business Jet going by RA-02795 which is Registered to Leader of the Wagner PMC Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin has reportedly Crashed in the Tver Region of Russia to the Northwest of Moscow resulting in the Death of all 4 who were Onboard; it is currently Unknown if Prigozhin was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1694393105355518089
>The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations has now stated that 10 Individuals were aboard the Aircraft when it Crashed and that there are No Survivors.
but
>Prigozhin was last seen with Members of the Wagner Group a few days ago in the West African Nation of Mali so it is unlike that he was on the Aircraft when it Crashed.
>Prigozhin was last seen with Members of the Wagner Group a few days ago in the West African Nation of Mali
Yea but anon did you know that planes can transport people aound the world in less than a a day?
prigozhin mutiny was exactly 2 months ago
it's so over
Told ya this moron was never in Africa. 50+C in full gear, with no sweat. Bullshit
oh fuck i would be 100% sadge if prigoo is kill he had the best story arch. generally a interesting guy that i would love to survive these times to write a book(s) about the last years
Can we get a shop of priggy pointing out the window of a plane towards an oncoming missile?
Best I can do is paint
Gem
Here's an alternative I salvaged from a thread before it got scrapped.
evasive maneuvers blyad
>plane accident
LMAO HAHAHAHAHA THEY AREN'T EVEN TRYING TO BE SUBTLE THAT THEY KILLED HIM
They don't really need to
i cant believe the brazilians would do this
lulu get your security services in check
Our drunk mafia wanna-be dictator has plenty of experiences with plane accidents of inconvenient people if you get what I'm saying...
>IT'S OVER
Netflix just announced the Africa arc was cancelled
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1694397266641993955
>Russia, Tver Oblast: Evgeniy Prigozhin reportedly dead as a result of a plane crash.
place your bets
>shot down by Russian air defense
Hilarious if true.
But also sad.
Boy that was a short arc. He should've wrote it as a tournament arc to drag things out
Man this guy is just the king of fucking nothingburgers. Anticlimax after anticlimax.
it's so fucking over
Bce кoнчeнo
>Ended Coup arc with a wet fart
>Africa arc barely started and he just got blown up near Moscow
Fucking hell
This is probably the shortest training arc I've ever seen.
OH REALLY?
Wait, was he in Africa or not?
all the best characters are dead or gone now... time to wrap this show
WHY ARE THREAD PURGED? WHO'S HIDING WHAT?
>10 different threads for the most minor of war dramas on the log at all times
>CEO of wagner purged isnt good enuff
Lately jannies have been more vatnik-esque.
have noticed this.
a thread querying the type of missile used to shoot down the plane just got erased also - too bad, since it was actually about weapons on a board that's also about weapons.
The chud jannies took down the damn prigo death thread what's wrong with these bros
vatnik-sympathizing jannies
They just ban any post that gets reported pretty much. I was banned a few days ago for posting pictures if destroyed Russian vehicles I took in Kyiv.
>I take a nap
>Pringles fucking dies
holy fuck
>russian space vessel crashes into the moon
>go to sleep and wake up
>ukies steal a russian transport helicopter with spare parts for jets
>go cook some food
>come back
>pringles fucking dies
what the FUCK is going on
When it rains, it pours.
>crash it
OR PERHAPS HE'S WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WOULD DELETE A THREAD AFTER PRIGGY DIES IN A PLANE
Footage of the crash.
Plane's missing a wing.
https://files.catbox.moe/g7rx92.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/feemew.MP4
>its largely intact as it falls
damn sucks to be them
Missing a wing? I've seen this before, he's not dead.
>didn't age well, the thread
>Mods are starting to delete Priggy threads
gays
who is Priggy? he never existed. no such person.
FUCKING DAMNIT,
I LOVED THAT FUNNY LIL bro
Utkin had a bomb his in his boipussy, it's Venom Snake time.
Mmm roasted priggies*~~*~~
Wagner says they will avenge Priggy with a second coup. Massive plot twist, this has the potential to be way better than Africa.
With what weapons? They handed iver all of their heavy equipment to the Russian Army and are all inside of Belarus.
Plot twist, Lukashenko is going for that promotion.
>SHOOOIGUUU!!!
He is likely in Thailand already tho wearing one of his wigs and holding one of his fake passports.
There's NO chance. It was always the inevitable outcome of him pussying out of the storm on moscow.
If he really is ded, Wagnerites will not accept it easily
is the No 3 any good, I hear Utkin was also on it.
They’re not taking it well
Without a leadership? People don't learn, don't they.
>russians
>protesting
Lmao
says nothing about any protests there
To be fair Priggy’s trip to Moscow had the streets full of people cheering him on
Dumb fuck could've seized power but he cucked out paid it with his life.
they gave up all their heavy equipment they wont and cant do shit
Would be kino if this happens
>Putin exterminates civilians, priests, artists, schoolgirls, war heroes, glowies, veterans, celebrities... nobody bats an eye
>Putin kills one war boss, the boiz are suddenly purging Moscow
they confirmed multiple times that he's dead, march on mosqueow when?
How much do they really care? They're a mercenary group after all, their loyalty is to a paycheck.
>Wagnerites will not accept it easily
what are they going to do about it? go attack moscow?
They accepted easily being sent into a meat grinder without proper artillery and air support.
They won't do anything.
The 100 or so wagnerites with a spine will be rounded up and shot behind a shed if Prigo is dead.
well, still better than catching random katana hellfire in africa
Another anime cancelled after a single episode
So that's where the S-400 were
I always kinda expected him to fall off a window anytime soon, but this window is a bit too tall don't you think ?
>africa arc was cancelled forever
in returns, we got the most hilarious week ever
How long until Prigozhin’s body double runs Wagner in Africa?
I guess Shoigu won after all
>Returned to Russia under his own power
THE VKS SENDS THEIR REGARDS
>I will never see a mass battle between the Russian Armed Forces VS Wagner Insurgent Mercenary Army
It's so fucking over.
we might see it now actually
Can you elaborate?
Wagner is pissed on telegram. Don't know if the rest of the army cares about the Wagner decapitation strike.
Depends. Is Wagner more loyal to Priggy or the Russian state? I imagine every soldier involved in the mutiny is asking himself some serious questions right now.
Yeah depends how much they've managed to throw them in the meat grinder and spread them amongst other units. They haven't been paid in a while either
What a fat retard. He should have known once he started it that it was either Putin hanging from a streetlight or death.
a lot of loyalty for a former coup leader
so much for that
Imagine having a one in a century chance to fight for your freedom and then squandering it.
The Prigger moron has gotten Balbo'd. 🙁
he’s in a better place…
But his plane crashed in Russia
Yeah but he doesn't have to live in Russia anymore
SHOIGU
GERRRRRRASIMOV
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP OF THE FUCKING MASTER PLAN
I doubt Wagner is going to do anything on behalf of a leader that literally can't lead anymore.
If there's somebody wanting the monke dead they could find themselves with unexpected allies in Russia.
>back out of coup
>get killed for it anyway
might as well have actually tried if this was gonna be the result
>fade to black
>this starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
>credits roll
>"in memory of Prigo"
>directed by dick wolf
10/10
Launch.
>lose Robotyne
>crash on moon and pajeets land without screwing up
>helicopter defects
>lose 2 Tu-22s
>Crimea AA getting bombed
>cope and seethe by shooting down Priggy instead of arresting and executing
Russia is weak
Rip bozo
Owari Da
Well that was a short arc
It’s been almost a year
I meant the african arc
How stupid do you have to believe you will get away with a coup attempt, back out last minute and then pretend that nothing happened
its mindboggling
You jinxed it, OP
Wow, that's surprising! I just got a new neighbor today, his name is Gaskar Darwish, and I think he fought in the Syrian Civil War, he might now more about this should I ask him?
>pic related, it's Gaskar
what the fuck happened in the past hour, what's going on
Prigozhin's plane has been shot down. (allegedly)
>second plane from the same flight just landed in Moscow
who's up for the next silly russian reveal?
What if it was a bait switcheroo and Priggy was on the second plane with a team of wagner commandos to assassinate Pudding?
Did... Did he make it to Outer Heaven?
He's stabilized, but it took too long. He's in a coma.
>bro got MH17'ed
this fucking clownshow never ends
Mr. President... there was a second plane...
YES THERE WERE TIMES
I'M SURE YOU KNEW
I BIT OFF
MORE THAN I COULD CHEW
BUT THROUGH IT ALL
WHEN THERE WAS DOUBT
I ATE IT UP
AND SPIT IT OUT
I FACED IT ALL
AND I STOOD TALL
AND DID IT
MYYY WAAAAAYYYYY
TO THINK
I DID ALL THAT
what air defense doing?
This thread aged poorly, even before it gets pruned.
Captcha: JP00PG
YOOOO
it was a body double
Prigozhin is in Africa gathering strength
Apparently, Utkin Also died. Large if factual.
They expect all of us in the wreckage and proofs brother
there were 10 listed on that plane
they've only found 8 bodies.....
2 might have fallen out
>Ukraine offensive stalled and failing objectives
>Prigo and Utkin removed from the equation
>support waning in Europe and US, elections coming up in 2024
Zamn pudding might actually hold on
>Support waning
According to whomst exactly my brown skinned Hindu friend
RT said so, India Times corroborates.
You're not that anon but I appreciate the effort
Not him but driving today they said something like 71% of Republican voters are against sending more aid. Granted, it's because these people being polled are retarded and don't understand that when we say we're sending another 40 billion to Ukraine, we're not sending them 40b DOLLARS, it's 40b worth in military equipment we already paid for 30 years ago,
If someone just sat down and articulated a pro right of center reason why sending our hand-me-downs to destroy Russia's future chances to chimp out ever the attitude would change overnight, but we are run by gay retards.
Forgot to add, it's somewhat of a pointless discussion as ultimately doesn't matter what the voters think as by design, the voting public doesn't have much say on foreign policies because the average voter is fickle and often doesn't see the big picture. And who the next president doesn't change that because the president doesn't control where our money goes, congress does and congress is solidly pro-Ukraine.
Why do you people all that these opinion polls so seriously they get things wrong all the time
Because politicians are slaves to public opinion up until the point where they're actually elected (and re-elected), then they don't have to care because they already got it.
whoops nevermind!
here's a magazine
Is that guy okay?
he's napping, he'll be fine
Tis but a scratch
Yeah, Putin just found a higher window for Prigo to fall out of...