>that one time the US military decided to create an entirely fictional country with separate uniforms, history, ranks and even language and dress uniforms all for an OPFOR exercise
>that one time the US military decided to create an entirely fictional country with separate uniforms, history, ranks and even language and dress u...
>that one time the US military decided to create an entirely fictional country with separate uniforms, history, ranks and even language and dress uniforms all for an OPFOR exercise
autism and realism
>start interesting premise
>refuse to post any details
google Circle Trigon party
These look like the old cringe Mexican presidential guard uniforms.
It looked better on paper.
Forgot the picrel.
Reminds me of "Invasion!" from 2000AD.
Ever since the Trigonists killed mee-maw and pee-paw, I've been greasing up the one thing I have left, my double-barreled shotgun... greased up for those dirty, twinkle-toed Trigonists!
Ooh, that's a deep cut. Personally the circle and triangle insignias were making me think of the Southers from Rogue Trooper.
So that's where Zion got their uniforms
i wish i could find that army manual in color.
The uniform looks like it came from one of the old civil defense corps.
>triangle man, triangle man, does everything i triangle can
>Circle Trigon party
Cool... getting cozy Mission Hill vibes from this.
What pisses me off about the bullshit surrounding MC2002 is that a ton of extremely practical lessons were learned and applied to the US military, but it wasn't flashy and cool stuff so nobody cares to discuss it. People will talk nonstop how Iran could totally destroy carriers by firing 999,999 missiles at once, nobody cares about improved BDA and fire support prioritization programs.
That’s because the people who know , well know, and everyone is thirdies who avoid anything positive about the military anyway
that's because you're getting your information from 'articles' that are the verbal equivalent of basedface. turns out when Generalissimo Autismo rule-lawyers so hard that teleporting motorbikes and magic detection are allowed, you don't actually learn anything all that useful.
Operation Longhorn. Those Trigonist bastards invaded Texas.
> Sir, they occupied the damned Piggly Wiggly
> Gentlemen, this will not stand. My meemaw buys her wonderbread there. Mount up.
looks just like the VNV flag
I'm more a Verdinaso man myself but still based
RAMIREZ, GRAB THAT BAR AND LIBERATE THE PIGGLY WIGGLY
Not the Piggly Wiggly! God damn those Trigomorons!
>Aw lordy they dam well took the Piggly Wiggly
I don’t even know what a Piggly Wiggly is but I will dam well fight to the last breath to retake it
Piggly wiggly was the first self serve grocery store.
The Piggly Wiggly is a strip club that's popular with the chubby chaser crowd.
I never heard about this until today, but I am filled with hate and demand revenge for the Piggly Wiggly.
REMEMBER PIGGLY WIGGLY!
Make them fucking triggers pay for turning the piggly wiggly into the cucking cow
Listen, if some dudes came around wearing strange uniforms and speaking Esperanto, I'm shooting
it blows my fucking mind that not only is piggly wiggly a real store. but it's also been around for-fucking-ever.
>ha ha, what a silly name for a store
>small town Texas sure doesn't take itself too seriously, that's nice to see
>look it up
What the actual fuck
Is this not a common knowledge? Closest I've ever been to Texas was Atlanta and I knew it was a thing.
We have Piggly Wigglys in Wisconsin
I wish I had a Wobbly Hog on this side of the River
We have a bunch in Alabama
we have a lot of them in south carolina
Used to have one where I lived in Arkansas but it closed a long time ago (like back in '05). Remember it as being unremarkable except for carrying more of the weird gross stuff, but I always appreciated seeing the kino pig sign as a kid.
The South in general doesn't take itself too seriously, it's why you'll see people flying the Stars and Bars alongside the American Flag on the 4th of July and other holidays. Marines would fly Old Dixie in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
Best to just roll with it, nobody means any harm. C'est la vie.
I unironically miss my local piggly wiggly
I want Aggressor Annie to talk dirty to me.
Now that's LARPing
Because strategic-level leadership in the USis very autistic and conversations and ideas can easily drift into /tg/ territory. I mean, they were playing absolute ‘tism simulators like C:MO but on a fucking board game with dice (original harpoon game). Not to mention if you replace “general xyz” with “dungeon master” it’s the exact same bullshit.
>hey! Brigadier gen. Anon you CANNOT put anti ship missiles on those fishing boats in this simulation, they weigh more than the boats themselves!!!
>go fuck yourself General, it’s not my fault you didn’t properly world build before we started
Well, the OG war game (so old it was just called "The War Game") played by the Prussian Army ran off D6s so...
>two guys in the middle fighting over the rulebook and house rules
>guy on the far left who checked out twenty minutes ago and is getting wasted
>guy on the far right stealing all the snacks
>guy sitting at the table in the "why can't this just be a normal game night" posture while his buddy consoles him
mankind really doesn't change
>guy on the right lifting the back of his chair cause he's bored waiting for his turn and is probably ignoring what everyone else is doing
I still laugh at that shit-eating grin of the man that has succeed where so many have failed.
the guy looking in the mirror wondering where his life went wrong
omg they're just like me fr fr
I recall one of these sims had the Taliban/ISIS (I can't recall which) btfo the US forces because the scenario placed no limits on the number of motorbikes permitted to either side, and the bikes were assumed to travel essentially instantaneously from one base to another. US side just straight up never considered bikes whereas they formed the backbone of the Taliban/ISIS strategy in this scenario. I'm obviously grossly paraphrasing but it was along those lines.
You are talking about Millenium Challenge, which AYRT was also referencing
what happened was something like:
>General: okay so you're not allowed to intercept my comms
>General: I'm using motorcycle couriers
>GM: but you're actually using radios (since we don't have motorcycles in the exercise)
>General: just pretend they're motorcycles and don't simulate interception
>GM: but your couriers would be sending messages at the speed of radio
>General: you said I could use any unit I could imagine. I thought of motorcycle couriers.
>GM: no I can't allow that
>General: OMG THIS GAME SUCKS YOU'RE BEING SO TOTALLY UNFAIR TO ME I'M TELLING MUM
There was another exercise where an entire US fleet got wiped out by fireboats because the Navy forgot that ships under a certain size could only be targeted manually back then and the carriers had a significant blind spot.
Suicide VBIED speedboats "took out" three carriers.
I'm sure you can source that. Surely
That's also Millennium Challenge.
What happened is that Van Riper attacked the Navy with a wide variety of suicide boats, the worst of which was a hypothetical motorboat armed with antiship missiles, as well as his entire arsenal of shore antiship batteries and so on, in one single massive strike.
This scored fantastic results against the USN task force because they had turned off their automatic anti-missile defences so as not to engage every passing civilian ship in the exercise area. This is unrealistic because in a real shooting war, the Navy would declare an exclusion zone, and sink anything in the zone. But this is not possible in an exercise.
Actually one of his better tactics that didn't get publicised is planting a dummy container ship amongst the follow-up logistics waves. That was realistic and heavily damaging.
Which is why I hate Van Riper, the bullshit he spun overshadows the greater lessons learned from the exercise.
makes me wonder how tight security would be for the containers and port port facilities loading the logistic ships.
Seeing how much drugs gets smuggles out via containerships.
You wouldn't even need a lot of bang to take out a ship, just find if a ship is carrying explosives, find the container and fir them with a detenator.
Not easy peasy but some thing a determined nation state might be able to pull off.
Figgure out where the support logistics will be coming from, get to the containers with munitions, fit them with a timed detenator and get out.
If all goes well a decent chunk of the sea borne follow up logistics goes boom and blub at more or less the same time.
Naval instilations have security details. But commercial ports get infiltrated by drug and people smugglers every day/night. And if you need to charter civilian cargo you will probably have to use civilian instelations.
It's not just the weaker security but the extra cost for chartering replacements, compecating the owners, the blowback from civie losses (just think of a ammodump being held in a civiy port near a major city waiting to be shipped getting blow up) and the domestic mayham and panic it would cause.
I'm sure that anti drugs and anti terrorist services have a decent tap on the usual suspects trying to get into ports. But it would be a nation actor using non nation tactics and might be able to exploit a gap and/or rivalry between the various services
in finland's recent war game against notrussia, btrs rolled out of a civilian cargo ship and troops siezed and airport after landing in a passanger plane
That would had been more sensible then Russia's actual plan.
We world in conflict now
I have always maintained that being in a peace time army is just extreme LARPing
>Anon you CANNOT put anti ship missiles on those fishing boats in this simulation, they weigh more than the boats themselves
Germans designed towed missile pods for the V-2s and up to 3 pods could be towed by single u-boat
>he doesn’t know about Robin Sage
I wish less people knew about Robin Sage because every time someone learns about Pineland they come here to start screeching about how the gubmint is training to kill them because the Q course happens within the US and not in some other country
FM 30-102 is a 400-page manual on the nation of Aggressor army and the Circle Trigon party's paramilitary forces.
There's also FM 30-101 ("Aggressor: The Maneuver Enemy"), FM 30-104 ("Handbook on Aggressor Insurgent War"), as well as rulebooks for the exercises themselves like FM 105-6-3 ("Nuclear Play Calculator: Aggressor"). The US Army also taught the soldiers playing the Opfor conversational Esperanto.
Sheer. Total. Autism.
Bro all those sound like names of fiction novels that you find at trucks stops. Makes me wonder if those generals go on to become those same larping military fiction novelists.
>Makes me wonder if those generals go on to become those same larping military fiction novelists.
who knows, they might be publishing under a pseudonym
come on, you know how the govt works
>Colonel X, go find somebody to write this thing
>yes Colonel X?
>I hear you've got a real gift of the gab. also that you had a Fanfiction.Net account in high school under the username xXMasterChief69Xx with 5 posted stories and an average of 17 reviews.
>wait where did you get
>never you mind. I have an assignment for you....
>they learned valuable lessons about the limits of international pressure and NGOs along the way, and why you can't just roll into a shithole country and fix everything overnight
My favourite undergraduate "game" example is the model UN my university hosted. Basically it was same old model UN, all talk, except each player was also handed a diplomatic position to argue for, and concessions their country would NOT accept. Things rapidly escalated of course.
>Makes me wonder if those generals go on to become those same larping military fiction novelists.
2034: A Novel of the Next World War was co-written by a retired US admiral. The plot is ridiculous and constantly crosses (and then re-crosses) the line between based-retard and regular-retard. If you're interested, there's at least one PrepHole thread about it out there somewhere.
you forgot they worked out all of the insignia so that you could tell from the eppilettes what division/regiment/brigade each soldier was from
>Ian Mccolum's Elbonia was long tradition
Ian stole Elbonia from Clott "Stay the Fuck away From Blacks" Adams
Elbonia is from Dilbert, zoomer
>Ian Mccolum's Elbonia
It's all so tiresome
Atropia has a baller flag.
>better borders than the real countries
Ukraine is Gorgas now
bro you dumb.
The Australians had something like that, it was kinda kino given the uniform they made for opfor turned out to be surprisingly good for parts of the desert.
Musorians and Kamarians are like fake SEA countries
You posted a pic with no context or linkage to the reasons why because you're an idiot.
>The Circle Trigon Party speaks Esperanto as their language
The US military has create several countries actually: the nation of Aggressor, the Republic of Pineland, the *People's* Republic of Pineland, Atropia, Krasnovia, Atlantica, Freedonia, and the former People's Republic of Danubia (now the independent nations of Sowenia, Vilslakia, and Juraland). Those are the ones I know of, but there's probably more.
Dirtland and Mainlandia are two I’ve seen.
>Mainlandia is an island.
That's some real fucking Greenland-tier false advertising bullshit, right there.
They're giving Project Aces a run for their money.
Those 8s....is that you <<<Buddy>>>?
My favorite fictional country created by our government has got to be Liberia.
Don't forget Afghanistan
for me it's Israel
This guy forgot about Limnadia and Nowheristan what a revisionist.
I'm kind of disappointed that Cowadooty never came up with a game based on one of these factions.
For me, it's Redland, Orangeland and the Sowhatki Gap.
war games are fun.
Is chud a foreign volunteer? Why do cobsons have the sun on their side?
Yet another Ukraine thread?
Actually pretty funny
There's a reason we call it wargames, in the end boys will be boys.
Peter Sellers is great in that movie.
That movie is so fucking kino
Funny how this basically predicted the Ukraine War.
LONG LIVE DONOVIA!
Are those dressed up M113?
Its smart, because one day that country you didn't see as a threat can charge its banner and become one EG USSR and Nazi Germany.
This is why I laugh when people say "they were all dummies pre 1990". No they really were not.
Look, man, I don't know but check out those helmets. The absolute drip on them mfers.
Everyone knows that playing OPFOR is the most fun thing you can do in the military. Why not make it more fun?
i think the U.S. military will be studied for centuries. unironically one of the greatest government institutions in the history of humanity.
Reminds me of how China's OPFOR- the Blue Wolves OPFOR Brigade- is basically GI Joe Cobras with all their blue tinged equipment and balaclavas.
Chinese OPFOR also has rectangle blocks on the tops of their helmets
they also put them in us marpat
it's so embarrassing when they give them an intentionally bad camo pattern. Almost like North Korea tier propaganda
Train how you fight, your enemies aren't going to be wearing bright blue or red uniforms
blue seems to be the traditional camo for opfor
but its probably the reason why the uk went from blue to grey
Yeah, who could be so stupid as to dress up in blue pajamas while antagonizing the west?
To be fair those are amphibious vehicles of the chinese marines. They decided the camo was for when they need it the most which would be an opposed beach landing. Which is sort of... defendable?
Then they made it standard... which is retarded but it's how every army works.
They're phasing it out btw and colors are no longer service based (which so far is smart, until a general decide it's not smart enough).
Chang Marines don't wear blue on deployment anymore.
See the big Chang marine base in Djibouti.
it helps people to take the exercise "seriously". it's the same reason why sports teams have uniforms to an extent. you could play a game of rugby using coloured ribbons around your arms but making it "look serious" makes people take it serious.
it's also a way to get people engaged. guys might not give a shit about exercise purple dragon cloudsparkle 2018 designed to test the BCS*1800347810 principle of strategic dynamic effect control tactic synergy network infrastructure, but getting to design lmao funny uniform is fun and getting to LARP is fun too.
i did a similar thing for a while doing mock diplomatic negotiation exercises and while the exercises themselves weren't that exciting for me after the 8 billionth time, getting to put on a massive cowboy hat and sunglasses and turn up in a hawaiian shirt and pretend to be the chain-smoking retardese-speaking dictator of some shitty post-apartheid white nationalist breakaway state in south africa was fun and funny as fuck and it was a way to make very dry and boring material engaging and fun for the students. i got to play the comically inept and evil "bad guy" and they got to "beat me" and they learned valuable lessons about the limits of international pressure and NGOs along the way, and why you can't just roll into a shithole country and fix everything overnight (they were undergrads, be gentle on them).
people learn through stories, and stories have characters. real life is boring.
of course it doesn't always work, but trust me if you've ever had to teach anything the hardest part is getting people engaged. anything that helps is worth doing.
>learned valuable lessons about the limits of international pressure and NGOs along the way, and why you can't just roll into a shithole country and fix everything overnight (they were undergrads, be gentle on them).
could you elaborate on 'why you cant'?
I would have LARPed the Dance Commander.
YOU MUST OBEY THE DANCE COMMANDER
>HE’S THE ONLY ONE
>who giiiiives the orders here
This, tbh, the potential to dress up funny and do silly voices does wonders for troop engagement and morale.
>massive cowboy hat and sunglasses and turn up in a hawaiian shirt and pretend to be the chain-smoking retardese-speaking dictator of some shitty post-apartheid white nationalist breakaway state in south africa
>it helps people to take the exercise "seriously"
The funny thing about that is when the lore book ballooned, participants stopped bothering to read it. "Aggressors" stopped trying to take ground and evade detection and started sabotaging the exercise so they could get back to real duties as quickly as possible.
yawn, obvious russian villains
Australians did this too with the "Kamarian" Auscam/DPCU
The Australians also called their opfor Musoria
dear god, the bants
i want the kamarian dpcu
>Aggressor Task Force SCHNEE
Never trust a native Esperanto speaker. These are clearly COMMIE-NAZIS
Hey, wasn't there an aggressor force involved in pen-testing that went rogue and kidnapped and tortured a civilian security guard?
I found it!
>On March 20, 1986, Red Cell team members kidnapped Ronald D. Sheridan, a civilian security guard who worked at Naval Weapons Station Seal Beach in Southern California as part of an exercise to test the defenses of the base. They took him to a nearby hotel where he was held for 30 hours and tortured: stripped, kicked, beaten, and repeatedly dunked into a bathtub filled with water and a flushing toilet. While in theory the kidnapping could prove a weakness, actually committing the torture served no useful purpose. In addition, the kidnapping was not even successful as a show of weakness; Sheridan's wife saw the suHispanicious men with a van and got the drop on them with her own pistol, and was only prevented from shooting the would-be kidnappers by her husband calling her off and insisting it was part of an exercise, as he thought at the time it would be a brief matter. Since Sheridan was not naval personnel, he sued the government afterward.
the fuck was wrong with them
>Navy officials, Pearlston said, have told the attorney that they consider Sheridan to have been a Navy employee. He said one official used the term “crybaby” to describe the security officer’s complaints.
Wow, these guys are actual subhumans.
>be guard at naval base
>a position where you may in fact be kidnapped or shot, if the balloon does go up
>know there's a base defence hardening exercise
>base defenders are supposed to be tested
>they run the ol mock interrogation routine on you
>whine that you can't take it and sue
yes, I'd say he's a fucking crybaby
shit like this happens
the SEALs themselves would have undergone it during their training
>how dare you complain about being tortured and denied medical attention
hmm yes very compelling
Come to think about it, Why don't they use actual bullets to shoot at soldiers during exercises? They are soldiers: getting shot at and dying is literally part of their job. They knew that when they signed up so why not test them, what gives?
Maybe the army is full of crybabies as well...
>Maybe the army is full of crybabies as well...
It is. Live fire exercises used to be a thing, like ducking out of the way from MG firing overhead staying in your pit as grenades/sims explosives goes around. If you acted like a retard you could very well die.
>If you acted like a retard you could very well die.
but now that's the only demographic they can convince to enlist, and an army that kills itself before battle isn't very useful.
>inb4 41%er joke
(not that I disagree, but it's too obvious)
I see you missed the point where the SEALS didn't get ventilated by his wife because he called them off.
most people going through the army's SERE twig before long that it's not real
they go through it all the same
how many lawsuits have come out of that, other than this fellow?
Is the SERE conducted by professionals who know what they're doing or a bunch of frat bros with guns? Why should he have stopped his wife from giving the SEALs some extra breathing holes if they were trying to be realistic to the point of inflicting harm during the exercise? Having a member of the OPFOR dead on the ground and others bleeding out would surely make for some interesting training.
Imagine the absolute seething from SEALs if she ventilated one of those fuckers. There would be a shitpost about it on here everyday until eternity kek
should've told her to pretend shoot them and if they wouldn't have let him go shoot them for real
I just want to hear them get bullied for being bested by a woman. How tf did she get the drop on them anyways?
He was a civvie though
Cool, so there'd be nothing with letting the wife shoot them. Getting shot is something all soldiers are expected to experience after all, right?
Sure no problem, if you let them shoot her, and they extract his teeth and electrocute him as per IRL interrogations
They were the ones unarmed and being held at gunpoint you dumb moron
Who is "they"?
Learn to communicate clearly.
go be illiterate somewhere else esl
Either way, you're still wrong, because the employee was the only one unarmed, shit for brains
doesn't matter your speshul forces were crying and pissing their pants while begging for their life, because a housewife go the drop on them
Why say anything if you don't even know the details of the incident? Because you're shitskin? Learn to poo in loo then
who the fuck cares? the red cell chudgays got btfo by women and took it out on her husband like the low t incels they are
>who the fuck cares, said the deluded shitskin imagining things that never happened
>n-n-no ur deluded, said the turdie
>a-a-and chud, he added, his mind instantly jumping to the taste of cock
seethe. your heroes are getting assraped in prison as we speak
>inevitably, the turdie's fantasies always revolved around assrape
get over it you lost
I lost a fantasy war of playground insults with no relation whatsoever to real life? wow that is such a bummer
Is this some weird schzio samefagging or am i just getting too old to understand why an internet arguement can ruin your day and magically turn you into a homosexual?
You both are wrong and gays, and probably brown too. Definately underage. Fuck offz
Wasn't Marcinko a total fucking liar?
the uk seems to have moved from Blue DPM to grey DPM for it's opfor, probably as its more realistic, i presume the blue uniforms stuck out
before they adopted the blue they used desert dpm and the found this was the problem, the desert dpm stuck out too much
Love me saracens, simple as
luv me fake russian tanks
Don't lie, you know just as well as I do this picture was taken three days ago somewhere in Luhansk
>nobody mentioning the dwarf
its what people mean when they say little green men
cold war polish opfor
Rembecki for tenth time shoe polish not of necessary kurwa mac
janich you get to play the squad Black
wasnt the only one
I get the feeling they weren't taking it very seriously.
the french use blue flecktarn
Total Trigger Death
>all these cool OPFORs
We just give them some flecktarn jackets or whatever we happen to have in the box and call it a day.
Hey at least Clancy Brown's still workin.
us army opfor
usmc opfor, allegedly
That's CADPAT with USMC insignia.
didnt this map cause a minidiplomatic incident?
as one or two of the real world countries not like it at all
I can’t believe the US military made Strangereal, real
That flag is pretty rad.
It looks like Donovia now stretches to Moscow lol
A Donovian BMP. For OpFor exercises, it’s just a Bradley with a hat. A tank with ERA is spotted in the background, likely to emulate a T-72/80/90 series Donovian tank
>it’s just a Bradley with a hat
>a Bradley with a hat
best thing I've read this week
that's actually a M113 with a Bradley Turret
the circle trigon also had their own hannoi hannah broadcasting to us troops during the excersise
What the fuck?
It's the fucking Magic Eightball!
I knew I didn't trust that thing.
I didn't know we are fictional.
American OPFOR in Germany
Total fags for blurring out their faces. "Hrr we're opfor so tacticool"
gays. We all made fun of you fags at NTC.
>all these people who think the Trigonians weren't real
BLUEFOR cannot triforce
White people, who rule the world, are more intelligent than morons like yourself. This is why you have $2.15 in your bank account and are addicted to a substance, whereas the white man has crafted the entire globe to suit his purpose. It's not up to you to judge the white man's methods. You can't even judge your own.
Kill Trigons. Behead Trigons. Roundhouse kick a Trigon into the concrete. Slam dunk a Trigon baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Trigons. Defecate in a Trigon's food. Launch Trigons into the sun. Stir fry Trigons in a wok. Toss Trigons into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Trigons gas tank. Judo throw Trigons into a wood chipper. Twist Trigon's heads off. Report Trigons to the IRS. Karate chop Trigons in half. Curb stomp pregnant Trigons. Trap Trigons in quicksand. Crush Trigons in the trash compactor. Liquefy Trigons in a vat of acid. Eat Trigons. Dissect Trigons. Exterminate Trigons in the gas chamber. Stomp Trigons skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Trigons in the oven. Lobotomize Trigons. Mandatory abortions for Trigons. Grind Trigon fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Trigons in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Trigons with a ray gun. Kick old Trigons down the stairs. Feed Trigons to alligators. Slice Trigons with a katana.
I guess for the same reason you guys have fuck huge comic conventions and cosplayers and and obscene generation of fanfiction.
for me its veyshnoria
In the Swiss Army we use desert DPM uniforms. They always call the enemy country "Elbonia" and insurgent groups "FEPs".
Picrel is me playing OPFOR.
interesting to know thanks anon
Are those jungle style mags standard issue or just something for OPFOR? They look pretty cool, but I've never heard of them being ready made rather than just taped together.
They are standard issue. SG550 mags have hooks to put them together.
It looks cool but I find it unpractical. It's bulky and if you ever have a malfunction (which are common with blanks) you might lose 3 mags instead of one. If you practice your mags changes enough you don't need jungle mags.
In this specific situation I used it because as OPFOR I wasn't wearing any type of webbing or chestrig to carry my mags.
>triple jungle mags
just when you thought shit couldn't get any more tactical
>that one time the US decided to create an entirely fictional country with separate uniforms, history, ranks and even language and dress uniforms all for
Se vi nur scius kiom bonaj aferoj vere estas
And a ching chong to you too
fellow agressors i found an american
I wonder if an OPFOR unit will ever go rogue and actually become hostile for real, led by an officer who refuses do drop the LARP.
I read a novel like that, a special forces guy hiding in a coyote den on an aggressor mission against an American city gets buried alive, goes nuts, then escapes a military asylum and tries to complete the "Mission"...
they still do! Hail Torrike/North Torbia!
>t. Bad Geronimo
I'm US Army OPFOR at JRTC in Louisiana, we've got about 4 different countries we play around with. Picrel, my unholy "BMP" that's actually a M113 with a Bradley turret stuck in it
Well we had to make a buffer state between Germany and England, and the "French" people needed a state so they could stop fucking with everyone else
anon that's no way to treat the french after all they did for you
to spend your hard earned tax dollars