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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally me
      >t. OC'd

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do women believe that they don't need a firearm to defend themselves because they carry pepper spray?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      go to cabelas tomorrow, and buy some. then spray yourself in the eyes. let me know how it works out.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        how well does this work in someone hopped up on meth?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I got squarted by a girl while I was super drunk and I can confirm it still fricked me up for like 15 minutes.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        And after that have a nice day with a 9mm and compare the results

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        i think range is a big problem if someones rushing you by the time theyre in range unless youre using bear spray theyll still be able to easily get to you

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I been sprayed. By the premium military OC spray. It wont stop me, just turn whatever I was planning into a murder

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because frankly, being forced to use a firearm in self defense is a pretty shockingly rare thing, and pepper spray is enough force to cause a break-in-contact in most encounters. I really can't blame women, or even most people, for carrying some pepper spray and being like "eh, good enough." It's far, FAR more likely that you'll use pepper spray to dispatch an aggressive homeless guy, belligerent drunk, or touchy-feely creep than use a gun to blast a mugger in a DGU.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >'s far, FAR more likely that you'll use pepper spray to dispatch an aggressive homeless guy, belligerent drunk, or touchy-feely creep than use a gun to blast a mugger in a DGU.
        Not unreasonable, also the aftermath to consider. If you shoot someone, even if it's a completely good shoot, it's going to be a pain. You're going to have to explain it, it's going to be public, even if most support you some will be mad etc. Cops are going to investigate, you'll probably want to pay a lawyer to at least be on hand. If you just took off that's going to be a big risk.

        Whereas if somebody "felt threatened" by something sketchy but common like you say, hits them with pepper spray and runs away it'll probably never even be reported and police aren't going to give a single shit if it is.
        >noooo the girl whose butt I was grabbing for burned my eyes you must find her and prosecute for asssaullllttt!!
        haha sure thing pal

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just carry both, moron. Mace for the methheads and a gun for the methheads high on meth

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          nta but was thinking about why more people don't just carry both. I wonder if fuddlore/legal fear is part of it, that people think
          >"if I have both lethal and less lethal, if I use the lethal people will blame me more for not using the other one regardless of circumstances then if I only had a gun"
          At least in my state that's not what the law says at all, legally justified homicide has absolutely zero to do with force type, it's a black&white situation justification or not. But not everyone will know the exact law.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          nta but was thinking about why more people don't just carry both. I wonder if fuddlore/legal fear is part of it, that people think
          >"if I have both lethal and less lethal, if I use the lethal people will blame me more for not using the other one regardless of circumstances then if I only had a gun"
          At least in my state that's not what the law says at all, legally justified homicide has absolutely zero to do with force type, it's a black&white situation justification or not. But not everyone will know the exact law.

          I am that anon, and I do carry both.

          Frankly, I think anon 2 is right. Fuddlore (really, hyperbolic legal fear) is a huge factor that affects gun owner's thinking about self defense and lawful use of force. Think about it: how many posts have you seen worded along the lines of, "Yeah, but if you ever shoot a black person in self defense, you're fricked anyways."

          Meanwhile, in reality, the majority of defensive shootings are against blacks (as they commit the most violent crime) and the majority of defensive shootings never result in prosecution.

          This is just one example of fuddlore/hyperbolic legal fear resulting in the acceptance of a falsehood, and it's kinda commonplace among gun owners. I get it: legal shit is perilous and expensive, but it eventually becomes a form of demoralization. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's a form of concern trolling.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of violence against women is commited by someone from their close surrounding so it's often not as simple as "just have a gun on your all the time and just shoot the guy lmao"

      Whether you are a woman or not, have a gun or not, some non-lethal option is always good to have to diffuse situations that wouldn't warrant using a gun, which in the western world are often more common than those that do

      Finally, quality pepper spray like Fox Labs or Sabre Red is WAY more reasonable than some bullshit self defense gadgets or "I'll just hold my keys like that and just stab the guy in the eye"

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most women hates the idea of harming another person.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have to be over 18 to post here.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        spotted the virgin

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Foolishness, unfettered naivete

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        They love beating children

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It can defuse rough situations and prevent a beating, but if it’s someone who’s going for the kill it won’t stop them.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's what I always recommend to people who don't own a gun/don't want to, or never will. Especially the people who have those handheld tasers, those things just hurt they don't stop someone since the prongs don't penetrate and many are much less powerful. I've tased myself with them in front of them to prove a point. Pepper spray is actually debilitating to 99% of people, and it will certainly ruin their sex drive if that's what was motivating them.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    this does not change my intentions, femoid

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >squirts it on your dick

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        that just means your puss is gonna be on fire in a few seconds

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous
  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    *advertises*

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pepper spray works well though as long as you don't draw it on someone with a gun already out like that boomer.
    Have you guys never seen that livestream troller who peppers guys trying to fight him? He's had multiple incidents even.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had a 20 year old keychain pepper spray can burst on me in a hot garage. It was super spicy in there for a while!
    >Made expose skin tingle and your lungs felt like you just smoked a Newport! But no worse then Durkis Red-Hot Sauce

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      In highschool a girl sprayed some mace into the air during english class and everybody's eyes were swollen by the end of class.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was dumb enough to leave my FoxLabs in my hot car several times and, while it didn’t explode, the pressure in the can is all fricked and now it sprays like half-stream/half-spray if that makes sense. Tested it out once and gave myself a minor coughing fit and spicy eyes, didn’t even spray myself or anything, the spray is just that bad. Might have to get another one but I can never find it in any local stores so I’ll have to order it in Grabagun again

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    AAAAAAAHHHHHH

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    she squirts are bad cause you want an aerosol for them to breathe in

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know remember THAT thread where Europeans were foaming at the mouth trying to rationalize pepper spray being a regulated item as dangerous as firearms

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >its a 'gun owners seethe about pepper spray' thread

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's so bizarre that pepper spray is the logical middle-ground between guns and knives yet autists will defend and fetishize knives to the point of absurdity while foaming at the mouth to disparage pepper spray as worse than useless or even claim that you're a pussy if you carry it

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pepper spray is absolutely worthless. An attacker on adrenaline will not be deterred at all. A police chief in the 1960s sprayed himself to show how humane it is. It is not sufficient for self defense purposes. If someone gets deterred with pepper spray you didn't need the spray at all.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tell that to the three separate meth heads I sprayed with pic rel who immediately went from fighting stance to walking away while holding their face and cursing. It's definitely no replacement for a gun, but it's not a mild annoyance either.

          It definitely has a different manual of arms than a gun, when you spray someone you leave immediately. Although what's nice about that is that since it's completely silent you don't have to report anything to the police if you don't know the Black person you sprayed since there are no shell casings or fingerprints to trace back to you.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >since there are no shell casings or fingerprints to trace back to you.
            There is the UV dye from the spray, which is apparently pretty hard to get off and lasts long after the pepper spray has been "rinsed off".

            Not that it can be traced back to you ofc, but you could, ostensibly, get some on your hands or something. It's not meant to incriminate you. It's really just meant to increase the odds of identifying a perp after he's been sprayed.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              All that means is that the Black person was pepper sprayed, they would still then have to prove that it was your specific pepper spray that did it. Much more difficult than matching shell casings to chamber marks/firing pin indentations or fingerprints.

              They're also doing DNA swabs on shell casings now, so unless you loaded it with gloves on and never touched the casings once they can to link it to you that way

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                They can figure out the manufacturer's specific formula and tie it to you that way if you've still got the spray can around. Or they could run your hands/clothing under a UV light from the backspray and dribble out of the can.
                It's a bit harder to prove than swabbing for gunshot residue, but if you've fricked up badly enough that the cops are having to do any of this you should probably be reevaluating your life choices.
                t. Investigator

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not carrying spray and a knife

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't carry a knife at all times you're either a prison guard or a massive homosexual, obviously

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >not carrying a knife, mace, and a gun and then beating the dude to death with your bare fists anyway
          I shygddt

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >logical middle-ground between guns and knives
        >close range lethal weapon
        >slightly more ranged nonlethal deterrent
        >ranged lethal weapon
        Huh?
        Anyway, if I need a nonlethal deterrent, I can put a laser sight on my pistol. Before lighting him up, I'll shine it directly into his pupils and blind him. If he keeps attacking after I've permanently fried his corneas, then I can shoot him easily since my gun's already trained on his face. No need to fiddle with a can of spray and then try to grab my gun after that fails, everything's already rolled into one package.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          if you dont shoot him after pointing a gun at him that is "brandishing" and youll go to jail for it, and some israelite lawyer will sue the shit out of you for blinding a man who clearly wasnt a threat to you since you didnt need to shoot him. moron.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            tons of states either explicitly allow brandishing for self defense or have precedent supporting it

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Name them

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                VA, PA has no law for it, Ohio, Indiana, etc

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Name them

                michigan does, or at least the lawyer (circa 8 years ago now so laws may have changed) mentioned in my CC course, something i latched onto because
                >if you dont shoot him after pointing a gun at him that is "brandishing" and youll go to jail for it, and some israelite lawyer will sue the shit out of you for blinding a man who clearly wasnt a threat to you since you didnt need to shoot him. moron.
                was what i heard and assumed the baseline was as well.

                but nah, MI totally allows "brandishing as a means to de-escalate"

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright so consider the following:
            >Black attacks me, charges with a weapon in hand
            >pull out gun
            >Black sees gun and panics, drops his weapon, turns around and runs before shots can be fired
            In your expert opinion of the law, am I meant to shoot him in the back because otherwise it was brandishing or is it illegal because the threat has ended and I've just executed a man in cold blood? What exactly are you supposed to do? Further, how would the court prove that it was brandishing if we assume it's not legal to open fire on a retreating/surrendered foe, as opposed to me accepting his surrender/retreat?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              blink in front of the groid with your saiyan nofap powers and pistol whip it to death

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              dome the Black amd leave, no one will investigate a single dead druggie

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                What if there are witnesses?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                then you shoot him before he could react, brandishing is not only dangerous legally but also physically since the Black person will be galvanized by the encounter and will do thay shit again if he thinks he can get away with it scot free just by running away.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              You guys are so goofy

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unless your laser pointer is pic rel you ain't deterring shit with it

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        gun people are compelled to hate pepper spray because it is the most sensible and politically correct form of deterrance.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pepper spray doesn't work against 10% of people and the % increases if the subjects are under the influence of drugs/alcohol.
        During my conscription we had army grade pepper spray which is unavailable to civilians and a lot stronger than the average pepper spray. During an exercise they gave us the choice to use the real ones instead of the watered down version we usually use against each other and while it fricked me up, it didn't do jack against a couple of guys.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSH>

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      how much DPS is that rated for?

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just urine.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dive goggles
    >piss-soaked bandana
    >bear spray
    >baseball bat
    Become unstoppable. Who needs guns?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does the bandana need to be piss soaked

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        You gotta suck air through the piss bandana to filter out the pepper spray before it gets in your nose and lungs. This plus the goggles means you can use the spray with impunity with no worry about blowback.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Uhhh
          Can I use something else?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it has to be pee. The ammonia neutralizes the pepper molecules. It works via the same biological mechanism as treating jellyfish stings by peeing on them.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Urine does not help jellyfish stings and can even make them worse.. myth needs to die.
              I'm less sure about ammonia helping but I'm doubtful.
              Baking soda and water has been shown to help as per the protests in HK. They also suggest sucking lemon wedges if it gets in your mouth/throat as it stimulates your saliva glands and helps clear out the irritants.

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    formic acid, pepper extract and bromoacetone or bromoacetophenone solution in ethanol in a hand sanitizer spray bottle, one less knife wielding bike thief with eye sight. the screams were delightful.

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I carry POM pepper spray. I think it's smart to have various levels and options for self defense. Bright pocket flashlight, pepper spray, knife, gun. Sometimes a bright light and loud voice is enough, but it's good to have an option between that and having to kill a fricker.

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have an annoying neighbor who has been spraying something outside that is causing a mild burning sensation and it feels a little warm around my lips and nose. I cant locate where its coming form but its been going on for 3 days.
    >What can be dont to prove he doing this? Call cops? What are the charges if he is caught?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean, you can notice it on your own property? Also
      - Have you tried, you know, talking to your neighbor, telling them the problem and asking them to change?
      - Next step after that if it's truly bad would be looking at town ordinances.
      - Probably threatening a civil lawsuit. Following through if necessary but a letter from a lawyer would probably be enough.

      I highly that there is any criminal statute being violated anon. Not fricking everything means calling the police and there being "charges" jesus christ.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Couldnt you extract caroline reaper peppers and use them as a base for pepper sprays?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can also buy them in most retail stores for like five bucks, anon

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Commercial pepper sprays use peppers and capsicum extracts that are way hotter than the caroline reaper since they're for spraying.

      nta but was thinking about why more people don't just carry both. I wonder if fuddlore/legal fear is part of it, that people think
      >"if I have both lethal and less lethal, if I use the lethal people will blame me more for not using the other one regardless of circumstances then if I only had a gun"
      At least in my state that's not what the law says at all, legally justified homicide has absolutely zero to do with force type, it's a black&white situation justification or not. But not everyone will know the exact law.

      https://i.imgur.com/ROcvJYz.jpg

      [...]
      I am that anon, and I do carry both.

      Frankly, I think anon 2 is right. Fuddlore (really, hyperbolic legal fear) is a huge factor that affects gun owner's thinking about self defense and lawful use of force. Think about it: how many posts have you seen worded along the lines of, "Yeah, but if you ever shoot a black person in self defense, you're fricked anyways."

      Meanwhile, in reality, the majority of defensive shootings are against blacks (as they commit the most violent crime) and the majority of defensive shootings never result in prosecution.

      This is just one example of fuddlore/hyperbolic legal fear resulting in the acceptance of a falsehood, and it's kinda commonplace among gun owners. I get it: legal shit is perilous and expensive, but it eventually becomes a form of demoralization. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's a form of concern trolling.

      Most people on /k/ don't think the force continuum is real and that you should use a gun for everything.

      >people have died from punches so that means I can shoot every one who tries to punch me
      >if I get pepper sprayed then that means they can take my gun and shoot me, so I can shoot every one with pepper spray

      There are times when a shoot would be justified like Zim-zam, but anons think you can instantly jump to lethal force.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of people base their world off of fuddlore, video games, or youtube reviews or something. Like "oh yeah anyone can just totally shrug off pepper spray", not that they've ever had even a 10% "see what it feels like a little very safely" sprayed at them before. I feel like that'd be one of those useful highschool experiences that the public would never go for, let every single student get a taste of diluted mace (enough to ensure 0% chance of permanent blindness obviously), tased, etc which will be bad enough then told the real thing is worse. It'd be a good experience and perspective.

        Of course I'm a freak that also thinks one month of gun classes should be a mandatory part of public schooling as well so everyone has a very basic level of knowledge of them and some hands on experience, and they aren't this complete mystery learned about solely through Hollywood.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently cops get tased at least once during training.
          I can't carry a gun so i carry pepper spray. I had some of the same brand i carry sprayed on me and let me tell you, even in a controlled environment with milk, water and tissues nearby it was awful. I have no idea what kind of drugs you have to be on to shrug it off. And even then your sight will be compromised because your eyes will water up constantly.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Most people on /k/ don't think the force continuum is real and that you should use a gun for everything.

        It's not quite that. There's shades of meaning that are lost with /k/ users sometimes. Even with the two examples you gave, there are definite situations where shooting might be justified.

        Is it acceptable to shoot someone for punching you? Well what do you mean? Did an angry homeless guy sock you one time before shambling away? Well, shooting him in the back would be moronic. Or by "someone punching you" are you referring to one of those Black person suckerpunch-beatdown type attacks? Because frick yeah you can shoot someone for that shit.

        >if I get pepper sprayed then that means they can take my gun and shoot me, so I can shoot every one with pepper spray
        Ngl tbh senpai, if I was minding my own business walking down the street and some random dude ran up to me and pepper sprayed me, I'd probably assume it was a robbery or something and my CCW would probably make an appearance.

        >so I can shoot every one with pepper spray
        I've never really seen anyone say that here. The demoralization shit I was talking about in my post is much more common.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's more that anything that doesn't justify lethal force doesn't justify shit like pepper or batons or tasers or whatnot anyways. If it doesn't justify shooting them, then you should be talking them down. There may be a brief moment between words and bullets where using your fists may be more acceptable, but that's probably about it.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Teehee! *squirt squirt*

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's what your mom said last night.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. My intentions were to humorously mock the lack of masculinity in carrying weapons like pepper spray while sparking some conversation. Perhaps, even mock the mocking of lack of masculinity.
    I need more malt liquor, but if I nace anyone from here to the gas station and back, I will be sure to give you the details.
    P.S. does the technology really mimic the real experience?

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pepper spray is only a thing if you got a fire extinguisher sized "Riot Controller's Choice" one. And even then pepper spray should only be used in situations that don't require/allow drawing a firearm (yet) in the first place.

    >Shady dude just knocking your door and talking shady shit but not actively threatening you: Blast him with pepper
    >Shady dude at your door ranting, banging, yelling, kicking and/or being visibly armed: Shoot until threat is gone.

    >Road rager standing next to your window yelling at you like a moron: Blast him with pepper
    >Road rager standing next to your window, trying to open the door, destroying the window etc.: Give him a volley

    Pepper spray is NOT an alternative to guns. It's a tool for lower levels of confrontations. Just like cops, for example, might use tasers instead of guns but draw guns as soon as tasers are not enough anymore, any civilian should employ pepper spray the same way.

    >It he don't need no killin' use pepper, if he needs killin' use gun

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Shady dude just knocking your door and talking shady shit but not actively threatening you: Blast him with pepper
      >Road rager standing next to your window yelling at you like a moron: Blast him with pepper
      These two are how you cop an assault charge.
      If you don't need to kill it, then don't fricking attack it. For this one
      >Shady dude just knocking your door and talking shady shit but not actively threatening you
      Call the police
      For this one
      >Road rager standing next to your window yelling at you like a moron
      Literally just drive away
      This is why pepper spray is a meme. These situations do not warrant that amount of force and you will be charged for assault for spraying someone in them, and anything that justifies pepper spray as a civilian justifies a gun anyways.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This is why pepper spray is a meme. These situations do not warrant that amount of force and you will be charged for assault for spraying someone in them, and anything that justifies pepper spray as a civilian justifies a gun anyways.

        Dumbest /k/ post. This subreddit's gone down hill.
        See

        Most of violence against women is commited by someone from their close surrounding so it's often not as simple as "just have a gun on your all the time and just shoot the guy lmao"

        Whether you are a woman or not, have a gun or not, some non-lethal option is always good to have to diffuse situations that wouldn't warrant using a gun, which in the western world are often more common than those that do

        Finally, quality pepper spray like Fox Labs or Sabre Red is WAY more reasonable than some bullshit self defense gadgets or "I'll just hold my keys like that and just stab the guy in the eye"

        https://i.imgur.com/mmtHP6V.jpg

        Tell that to the three separate meth heads I sprayed with pic rel who immediately went from fighting stance to walking away while holding their face and cursing. It's definitely no replacement for a gun, but it's not a mild annoyance either.

        It definitely has a different manual of arms than a gun, when you spray someone you leave immediately. Although what's nice about that is that since it's completely silent you don't have to report anything to the police if you don't know the Black person you sprayed since there are no shell casings or fingerprints to trace back to you.

        >'s far, FAR more likely that you'll use pepper spray to dispatch an aggressive homeless guy, belligerent drunk, or touchy-feely creep than use a gun to blast a mugger in a DGU.
        Not unreasonable, also the aftermath to consider. If you shoot someone, even if it's a completely good shoot, it's going to be a pain. You're going to have to explain it, it's going to be public, even if most support you some will be mad etc. Cops are going to investigate, you'll probably want to pay a lawyer to at least be on hand. If you just took off that's going to be a big risk.

        Whereas if somebody "felt threatened" by something sketchy but common like you say, hits them with pepper spray and runs away it'll probably never even be reported and police aren't going to give a single shit if it is.
        >noooo the girl whose butt I was grabbing for burned my eyes you must find her and prosecute for asssaullllttt!!
        haha sure thing pal

        https://i.imgur.com/xKVqYAQ.png

        Because frankly, being forced to use a firearm in self defense is a pretty shockingly rare thing, and pepper spray is enough force to cause a break-in-contact in most encounters. I really can't blame women, or even most people, for carrying some pepper spray and being like "eh, good enough." It's far, FAR more likely that you'll use pepper spray to dispatch an aggressive homeless guy, belligerent drunk, or touchy-feely creep than use a gun to blast a mugger in a DGU.

        There's almost a consensus that you're a stupid Black person who will shoot someone for no reason.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          See

          It's more that anything that doesn't justify lethal force doesn't justify shit like pepper or batons or tasers or whatnot anyways. If it doesn't justify shooting them, then you should be talking them down. There may be a brief moment between words and bullets where using your fists may be more acceptable, but that's probably about it.

          and shut the frick up, the fact that you're the one insisting that me not wanting to wear Batman's gadget belt makes me a Black person tells me you're the moron here. Anything that doesn't require a gun, I can handle with my words or maybe my fists (big maybe because if you actually need to resort to that, you may need a gun, situation varies) because I'm a fit white male that can actually think logically about these situations.
          If I'm not being threatened, then I don't need a gun. If I don't need a gun, I don't need any of that other dumb crap. What do you not understand? Alternatively, what do you think I'm not getting? Explain to me why I need your jalapeno eyedrop spray when I can just push a dude over or tell him to back off?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's more that anything that doesn't justify lethal force doesn't justify shit like pepper

          moronic. You're totally wrong. There are myriad situations in which the lesser force provided by pepper spray is legal, but the lethal force provided by a fire arm would be either downright illegal, or highly legally scrutinized (especially in the aftermath of the shooting).
          You morons think it's lethal or nothing, which is the type of logic that gets douche bags sent to prison.

          See [...] and shut the frick up, the fact that you're the one insisting that me not wanting to wear Batman's gadget belt makes me a Black person tells me you're the moron here. Anything that doesn't require a gun, I can handle with my words or maybe my fists (big maybe because if you actually need to resort to that, you may need a gun, situation varies) because I'm a fit white male that can actually think logically about these situations.
          If I'm not being threatened, then I don't need a gun. If I don't need a gun, I don't need any of that other dumb crap. What do you not understand? Alternatively, what do you think I'm not getting? Explain to me why I need your jalapeno eyedrop spray when I can just push a dude over or tell him to back off?

          bait or moronic.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There are myriad situations in which the lesser force provided by pepper spray is legal, but the lethal force provided by a fire arm would be either downright illegal, or highly legally scrutinized
            So you should have no trouble providing an example then?
            >You morons think it's lethal or nothing
            Deescalation is nothing? Using your fist like a man is nothing? Why are you saying that I think you should shoot everything that appears potentially threatening, which is not at all what I've been saying?
            Can you argue in a way that doesn't sound like the world's most desperate pepper spray salesman?

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              We had an entire thread about this, dude. Almost every """"""point""""" you made has been addressed earlier.

              >So you should have no trouble providing an example then?

              Most of violence against women is commited by someone from their close surrounding so it's often not as simple as "just have a gun on your all the time and just shoot the guy lmao"

              Whether you are a woman or not, have a gun or not, some non-lethal option is always good to have to diffuse situations that wouldn't warrant using a gun, which in the western world are often more common than those that do

              Finally, quality pepper spray like Fox Labs or Sabre Red is WAY more reasonable than some bullshit self defense gadgets or "I'll just hold my keys like that and just stab the guy in the eye"

              https://i.imgur.com/xKVqYAQ.png

              Because frankly, being forced to use a firearm in self defense is a pretty shockingly rare thing, and pepper spray is enough force to cause a break-in-contact in most encounters. I really can't blame women, or even most people, for carrying some pepper spray and being like "eh, good enough." It's far, FAR more likely that you'll use pepper spray to dispatch an aggressive homeless guy, belligerent drunk, or touchy-feely creep than use a gun to blast a mugger in a DGU.

              Remember when I linked all of those relevant posts that BTFO every moronic claim you made?

              https://i.imgur.com/jg8UxyU.png

              >This is why pepper spray is a meme. These situations do not warrant that amount of force and you will be charged for assault for spraying someone in them, and anything that justifies pepper spray as a civilian justifies a gun anyways.

              Dumbest /k/ post. This subreddit's gone down hill.
              See
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              There's almost a consensus that you're a stupid Black person who will shoot someone for no reason.

              I didn't do that for no reason moronic Black person. There's an entire thread of people who think you're a moron. Peace, Black person.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Most of violence against women is commited by someone from their close surrounding
                Not a woman and women won't do shit to defend themselves, they need a male guardian for a reason.
                >some non-lethal option is always good to have to diffuse situations that wouldn't warrant using a gun
                Such as?
                >an aggressive homeless guy
                Is he coming at me with a weapon? No? Then I don't need to use a weapon on him. If he tries to hit me, knock his homeless ass out. At the most, throw some loose change at his face, he'll be too busy picking up every penny off the ground to continue
                >belligerent drunk
                Again, is he coming at me with a weapon? No? Then I don't need to use a weapon on him. I've dealt with drunks without needing to shoot them so far, you forget they're literally intoxicated. They're uncoordinated, push the homosexual over or knock him out cold if he's getting physical.
                >touchy-feely creep
                I am a man as previously stated, this is a non-issue. But for the sake of thoroughness: is he coming at me with a weapon? No? Then I don't need to use a weapon on him. As long as you don't eat or drink anything he gives you like a moron, you should be able to handle yourself as an adult man. These types are weaklings.
                >Remember when I linked all of those relevant posts that BTFO every moronic claim you made?
                Nope, apparently not given that I've debunked them in a single post. I do not need pepper spray.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they need a male guardian for a reason
                No they don't, they just need to be armed with multiple weapons and trained in their use. Your big manly incel ass will die just as well to my wife's .380 as anything else.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                They need one because it doesn't matter what you give them, they refuse to use it. They feel guilt for killing a violent attacker for some fricking reason, to the point they'd rather lay down and die to them than take any fricking action for themselves.
                >muh inkwells
                Insecurity noted. You should probably give this hypothetical wife a .32 instead, .380 is too snappy for women. I've tested, they still complain about the recoil. Revolvers are also idiot-proof, can't limp-wrist one. Best of luck.

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                Brown, sand encrusted fingers typed these posts.

                Nope, just a realist. While it would certainly be nice to live in a world where women can be as logical as men, we sadly aren't living in one. Not like women don't share my sentiment, they see you and me as tools or weapons rather than human beings. The same dumbass that chooses to marry a wife-beating Black person and doesn't see anyone else as a man can't be expected to reliably be able to defend herself, that's just facts.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

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                If we're talking about women then obviously it doesn't matter. Fighting is for men, women don't partake in it. If you're concerned for a woman, what she really needs is the protection of her boyfriend/husband or male family member.

                Brown, sand encrusted fingers typed these posts.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >So you should have no trouble providing an example then?
              Like other anon said tons of examples were provided earlier in the thread. If some unarmed bum gets a bit pushy or grabby and a chick panics/legit worries, peppers him and runs away, that is never going to get the slightest further notice. Technically/legally there could be some argument around whether it'd be "assault" or not, but as a practical matter the authorities aren't going to spend a single iota of effort on that. Nobody permanently hurt, no one else at any risk, no other serious crime committed, guy probably had it coming, book closed.

              If she shoots the guy it's going to be a big mess of subjectives and public judgement and inevitably politics. If it's not clear cut self defense decent chance it might go to court, and then even if she wins it'll still cost a lot and suck.

              If you're in legit fear for your life and they're armed or keep after you obviously you shoot them. But particularly for people physically much weaker there's going to be gray area for a lot of them. Having something to fill that hole makes them more likely to defend themselves vs hesitating which is a good thing. If someone isn't deterred by pepper spray and keeps after you now it's ultra clear cut.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Using your fist like a man is nothing?
                how exactly is my 14 year old niece supposed to "use her fist like a man" you absolutely insufferable fricking homosexual

                If we're talking about women then obviously it doesn't matter. Fighting is for men, women don't partake in it. If you're concerned for a woman, what she really needs is the protection of her boyfriend/husband or male family member.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Using your fist like a man is nothing?
              how exactly is my 14 year old niece supposed to "use her fist like a man" you absolutely insufferable fricking homosexual

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gets shot 59 times

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