It’s another example of perfectly fine open bolt designs getting cucked to close bolt by the gaytf. People here bitch about the hughes amendment but the atf ruling on open bolt semis is nearly as bad for how many designs it relegated to jamomatic status.
I think these days most people just have zero idea of the history there anon, that it started as an open bolt automatic, didn't get the government orders expected, so they did a semi for the US civilian market but then ATF said TOO EZ TO CONVERT ;^) with their usual stuff and then the design had to be fucked with.
Yeah I've heard that. I know there was an open bolt 10/22 which used the extractor as a firing pin. Bet it was a ton of fun. So I guess you can go the other way too?
Yes. The only thing you have to do is remove or file down the disconnecter, as a open bolt dosen't require timing due to a fixed firing pin and it only striking the primer when in battery.
Retard. Not all open bolts use a fixed firing pin.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why wouldn't you use a fixed firing pin on an open bolt gun?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you wanted to use something besides a straight blowback design.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>besides straight blowback
Yes anon, because everyone knows the loads of pistols that use open bolt roller delayed blowback.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
you know there are open bold guns other than pistols and SMGs right? BAR fires from an open bolt and is locked breech.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, but we're talking about pistol caliber open bolt guns.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
To prevent out of battery discharges.
A hammer on the bolt that hits the mouth of the barrel that pushes the firing forwards is a common safety mechanism on better quality SMGs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ooohhhh so thats how they do it
they use a fuckin transfer bar, how quaint. the star z-63s answer was a floating firing pin and a few detents to prevent accidental discharge and out of battery detonations
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It wasn't necessary on the thompson, which is why they got rid of it in the M1A1
There is no blanket ban on open bolt guns. ATF only declared a few specific open bolt pistols as machine guns. The only reason they aren't made is that the gun industry just assumes that ATF will ban any new designs submitted to them so they just don't make them. But no one has tried in a while.
TEC-9 can be reliable. The biggest problem is that 90% of the mags for them are all aftermarket and none of them work well. If you use it with actual factory mags they work a lot better.
>they advertise this tec-9 as the most popular gun in American crime >can you believe that shit? >it actually says that in the little booklet that comes with it >"the most popular gun in American crime" >like they proud of that shit
>banned as an assault weapon in 1994
Oh so they're talking about the semi -automatic version because the full auto was banned in 1986 >emptying a 50-shot magazine in seconds
lol wut? Did they not realize that full-auto was already banned before 1994?
>no external lock or safety system
did the retards really design an open bolt gun that you couldn't lock the bolt back? Does it not have a cut out like a sten or grease gun?
How is the trigger? Haven't thought about it until now. And why not go for different variations (eg. revisions, name changes) of the gun instead of the same model over and over?
I always wanted one because of CS:GO, but never enough to go out and buy one.
Especially because the only examples around me were beat to shit with cracked receivers going for ~$1k in 2014
The handgun portion of the 94 AWB was written specifically to target this gun. Feinstein got booty blasted when they slightly altered it and kept selling it as the "After Ban" AB-10.
This thing was popular as fuck on the NYC area streets back then. It was also quite the piece of shit and anyone who can would have chosen an UZI or MAC-10/11 instead.
Infographics like this always make the gun seem so cool
There was that documentary "Weapon of Choice" that tried to hate on glock and just made them look epic
I owned a DC9 and AB10 back when they were like $200 and with the standard mags they work ok I guess, they still jam but not like they do with stendos.
Aside from that they are about as accurate as any other pistol nothing special, they aren't particularly easy to shoot because they are extremely unbalanced. They also feel incredibly cheap even keltecs feel more durable than them.
There really is 0 reason to own one I sold mine years ago and don't regret it a bit, they aren't even that fun to shoot, maybe if it was full auto and had a stock it would be more fun but sadly unless you got an SOT you ain't doing that.
Basically just buy an Uzi, much more fun, reliable, accurate, and doesn't feel like shit in your hands.
I've owned 2 tec 9's and they were both total pieces of garbage. One was the first gen with the milled sights and the second had the more common stamped sights
Couldn't get either one to feed reliably. The newer model ended up having a crack in the plastic frame near the front pin. The old one would sometimes seperate the case from the bullet somehow during feeding and spray powder everywhere. I really wish they were functional guns because they have such a nice aesthetic but heed my warning unless you buy one as a wall hanger they are not fun guns.
>12-18" barrel
lmao
12-18cm maybe? Fuck gun grabbers are fuckwits.
>murder made easy
Pentagon: Would you like millions of dollars? Does it come in black?
Make it so it doesn't jam so much
It’s another example of perfectly fine open bolt designs getting cucked to close bolt by the gaytf. People here bitch about the hughes amendment but the atf ruling on open bolt semis is nearly as bad for how many designs it relegated to jamomatic status.
I think these days most people just have zero idea of the history there anon, that it started as an open bolt automatic, didn't get the government orders expected, so they did a semi for the US civilian market but then ATF said TOO EZ TO CONVERT ;^) with their usual stuff and then the design had to be fucked with.
I heard open bolt is fuck easy to convert to full auto, is that true ?
Yeah I've heard that. I know there was an open bolt 10/22 which used the extractor as a firing pin. Bet it was a ton of fun. So I guess you can go the other way too?
yes, usually just a bit of filing will do the trick
Yes. The only thing you have to do is remove or file down the disconnecter, as a open bolt dosen't require timing due to a fixed firing pin and it only striking the primer when in battery.
>only striking the primer when in battery
That's not how open bolt guns work though.
Retard. Not all open bolts use a fixed firing pin.
Why wouldn't you use a fixed firing pin on an open bolt gun?
If you wanted to use something besides a straight blowback design.
>besides straight blowback
Yes anon, because everyone knows the loads of pistols that use open bolt roller delayed blowback.
you know there are open bold guns other than pistols and SMGs right? BAR fires from an open bolt and is locked breech.
Yeah, but we're talking about pistol caliber open bolt guns.
To prevent out of battery discharges.
A hammer on the bolt that hits the mouth of the barrel that pushes the firing forwards is a common safety mechanism on better quality SMGs.
>ooohhhh so thats how they do it
they use a fuckin transfer bar, how quaint. the star z-63s answer was a floating firing pin and a few detents to prevent accidental discharge and out of battery detonations
It wasn't necessary on the thompson, which is why they got rid of it in the M1A1
I read the closed bolt is relatively easy to convert too
Although it will become even less reliable
There is no blanket ban on open bolt guns. ATF only declared a few specific open bolt pistols as machine guns. The only reason they aren't made is that the gun industry just assumes that ATF will ban any new designs submitted to them so they just don't make them. But no one has tried in a while.
My grandma had one for years, she sold it because magazines are hard to find and almost all of them fucking suck and jam all the time.
Was this your grandma?
when is she going to start raping faster than eminem?
TEC-9 can be reliable. The biggest problem is that 90% of the mags for them are all aftermarket and none of them work well. If you use it with actual factory mags they work a lot better.
>the stealthy N under the 13 in 50 isn't part of the edit
>Murder made easy
this would be the coolest gun ad headline, really
Ngl if the tec 9 gets rebooted they should unironically use that news ad for inpsiration
>they advertise this tec-9 as the most popular gun in American crime
>can you believe that shit?
>it actually says that in the little booklet that comes with it
>"the most popular gun in American crime"
>like they proud of that shit
>banned as an assault weapon in 1994
Oh so they're talking about the semi -automatic version because the full auto was banned in 1986
>emptying a 50-shot magazine in seconds
lol wut? Did they not realize that full-auto was already banned before 1994?
They take pride in knowing nothing about guns or how they work
>Muh external lock or safety system!
How does this feature prevent crime?
it doesn't, but it sounds scary to anyone who doesn't know much about firearms
>no external lock or safety system
did the retards really design an open bolt gun that you couldn't lock the bolt back? Does it not have a cut out like a sten or grease gun?
External lock would be something like a Hillary hole
On second thought that's retarded since that would be an internal lock, it probably just didn't ship with a cable lock like every gun now does.
I buy these up every chance I get, redo the internals and they run fine.
Just shoot steel-cased and you're good
>Anon that as 9 tec-9's and 1 AP-9
How is the trigger? Haven't thought about it until now. And why not go for different variations (eg. revisions, name changes) of the gun instead of the same model over and over?
I always wanted one because of CS:GO, but never enough to go out and buy one.
Especially because the only examples around me were beat to shit with cracked receivers going for ~$1k in 2014
>1 AP-9
I have one of those and it is without a doubt the biggest turd I've ever shot.
The handgun portion of the 94 AWB was written specifically to target this gun. Feinstein got booty blasted when they slightly altered it and kept selling it as the "After Ban" AB-10.
I fell in love with the ab10 as a kid and got one
did they make a full auto version?
>is capable of emptying a 50 shot magazine in seconds
a tec 9 has never emptied a full mag without malfunction
ever
When did the fortnite gun become that long?
Its not a flash suppressor it is a heat shield
It was designed by a swede so it's a master piece by default.
>shroud allows user to hold hot barrel during rapid fire
This is the worst lie I've ever heard
Hispanicy bug
This thing was popular as fuck on the NYC area streets back then. It was also quite the piece of shit and anyone who can would have chosen an UZI or MAC-10/11 instead.
Infographics like this always make the gun seem so cool
There was that documentary "Weapon of Choice" that tried to hate on glock and just made them look epic
I owned a DC9 and AB10 back when they were like $200 and with the standard mags they work ok I guess, they still jam but not like they do with stendos.
Aside from that they are about as accurate as any other pistol nothing special, they aren't particularly easy to shoot because they are extremely unbalanced. They also feel incredibly cheap even keltecs feel more durable than them.
There really is 0 reason to own one I sold mine years ago and don't regret it a bit, they aren't even that fun to shoot, maybe if it was full auto and had a stock it would be more fun but sadly unless you got an SOT you ain't doing that.
Basically just buy an Uzi, much more fun, reliable, accurate, and doesn't feel like shit in your hands.
I've owned 2 tec 9's and they were both total pieces of garbage. One was the first gen with the milled sights and the second had the more common stamped sights
Couldn't get either one to feed reliably. The newer model ended up having a crack in the plastic frame near the front pin. The old one would sometimes seperate the case from the bullet somehow during feeding and spray powder everywhere. I really wish they were functional guns because they have such a nice aesthetic but heed my warning unless you buy one as a wall hanger they are not fun guns.
>18" tec-9
holy moly
Reject the jam-o-matic and embrace the shit box bullet hose.
you look like the columbine kids