Tanks have been obsolete since infantry held AT weapons were invented, get over it, this is not WW2 anymore where thick metal = protection and infantry was totally shitless against tanks, times have chanced, even a grenade can blow up a tank now, it's over, tanks are literally deathboxes waiting to be sniped by some AT gun or plane.
The future is aviation and high speed strikes, stop being cringe trying to justify tanks failures in Ukraine (and Iran) due to bad commanders, tanks are outdated, Javelins, Mavericks and ATGMs were the final nail in the coffin.
>Planes have been obsolete since infantry held AA weapons were invented, get over it, this is not WW2 anymore where flying = protection and infantry was totally shitless against planes, times have chanced, even a granade can blow up a plane now, it's over, planes are literally deathboxes waiting to be sniped by some AA gun or gepards.
You are dumb as fuck, but thats to be expected on PrepHole. Airplanes still can stay out of range of man portable AA systems, tanks can not. It is time gay boomer brainwashed tankies understand that times have changed and there is absolutely no economic, strategic or tactical benefit to deploy a big oof gun on the battlefield that has to get up close and personal but is deleted by 12 year olds with fire and forget missiles.
It's a big change for boomer gays to make, but if boomer gays do not make that change and keep producing more Leo A12 or Challenger 6 or Abrams M9A17, they will keep losing wars against 3rd worlders with commercial grade equpipment.
The age of tank is over. The age of helicopters is over. The age of IFV is over. The age of Fighter jets is over. The age of trillion dollar military procurement disasters is over.
Yet boomers will keep that rotten system alive and pump more money into it, piling up more debt, forcing everyone into tax slavery so they can keep being wrong about everything. Pls kys.
So what is your take? Is it muh drone age and nothing else?
Battlefield is completely transparent now. Every side knows what the other is up to, either through drones, satellites or intelligence.
You need on demand, long range indirect fire capabilities, either with rockets or with shells. Ideally a drone/satellite picks up an enemy and you can just direct long range precision fire on it.
Also be able to spam long range missiles.
Infantry should be extremely mobile, 100% fire power and mobility, skip armor and other shit, it doesnt help against ATGM anyway.
Long range jammers and rockets that can down satellites are a must have to blind the enemy. Have nearly unlimited ammunition supply.
Area denial either to on demand fire or mines.
Also destroy infrastructure first. Skip bombers, fighter jets and all that other shit. Long range ballistic missiles are the way to go. Develop rockets with bigger, fatter boom, like ICBM with non-nuclear warheads.
It's more like 60% transparent and that's after you know where the battle is taking place. How do you know where the battle is taking place if infantry is "hypermobile" and all you're doing is spamming missiles?
So your hot take is „modern developments but moar” lmao. Russia is firing rockets, sending drones and spamming artillery for over a year and it didnt change much. Also you cant completely skip armor because you become an appetizer for cardboard drones
>ICBM with non-nuclear warheads
it will appear the same as a nuclear missile on long-range radar, you just started WW3
All the boomers have all their retirement funds and pensions invested in everything, so once they die the economy is going to literally fall apart, the government and banks are going to take most of their money through inheritance taxes, debt, or entirely and millennials and Gen X people will literally own nothing. Then the banks will flee to some country like India and China that let's them own slaves. They were already trying and the government told them to fuck off and stop using subsidized money to invest in China.
>they will keep losing wars against 3rd worlders with commercial grade equpipment.
I was ready to give your argument a chance despite your tone, but then you said this. If you think this is at all true or relevant you're a complete retard. Not even gonna finish reading the thread.
they hated him because he told the truth
look at ukraine retard
>look at ukraine retard
okay
>Ukraine is begging for any heavy armor they can get, however obsolete, Soviet or Western, in as large a quantity as they can get
>Russia is panic mobilizing T-62s because they're desperate for tanks
>airpower on both sides is completely mitigated GBAD and SEAD is a novelty
>Planes have been obsolete since infantry held AA weapons were invented
nothing can fly in ukraine because of the huge AA coverage
How will these infantry with AT guns assault fortified positions at more than 5 miles per hour
segway
But dipshit kun handheld AT was invented in WWII
But man held AT guns were already present during ww2. Your whole argument doesn't make sense.
I don't see how tanks are obsolete just because you say so on a Zimbabwean root beer brewing forum.
tanks are obsolete in ww1/2 sense but they will work as long they have protection through combined arms
ukraine and russia are bad at this
>infantry have been obsolete since weapons were invented, get over it, this is not roman legions anymore where thick metal = protection and infantry was totally invincible against savages, times have chanced, even a grenade can blow up a soldier now, it's over, infantry are literally meatbags waiting to be popped by some AT gun or plane.
this is why we did away with armor after firearms became prevalent on the battlefield
the problem is ukies and russians are retards and do tank charges like it's ww2
that's why the losses are so high