I love how China supports Argentina in 'reclaiming the imperialistic grabbed territory of UK' in the Falklands, but if you go >Oh aren't you being imperialistic land grabbers with Taiwan?
They get super fucking angry.
They had their chance though and completely blew it. Its like saying the CSA is still the rightful ruler of the South, or the Turks are the rightful rulers of the Balkans and the Levant. the opportunity was there at one point but they lost it and there's no going back.
Taiwan has the highest IQ on earth and best health care system. It's the 2nd richest citizens in east Asia
China is a poor shithole
The Republic of Sun Yat-sen will be restored on the mainland
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>China is a poor shithole
20y ago sure. Not today.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Lol
1 month ago
Anonymous
Stop acting like 20 years old cctv videos are relevant today.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Cool, now show me the unemployment numbers.
1 month ago
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>Housing development market is allowed to list unsold merchandise as "sales"
1 month ago
Anonymous
Is that why more than 600 million chinsects still live on less than $1400/year, and live in extreme poverty? This is all according to the CCP Politburo. Are you telling me Xi's hand picked man is lying about 600 million chinsects living in extreme poverty?
1 month ago
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There are thirty million Chinese living in caves right now.
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>and best health care system.
It's one of the shittiest shit-tier "death care" systems outside of Africa. They literally lie to patients and tell them everything's fine when it isn't, just to avoid paying for treatment.
you said it backwards. Mainland China is Taiwan. Taiwan is the legitimate continuance government before the traitorous rebellion of the PRC happened. That Taiwan continues to exist continues to mandate by international law that the mainland Chinese government is illegitimate, and the equivalent of other countries and even the US dealing with a rebel warlord.
>taking the bait, going out of his way to post twice rather than side by side.
note:
>no US flag displayed on communist insurgent territory. >Republic of China flying F-16s >Republic of China using PAVE PAWS >Republic of China Army using AH-64s
I don't need to insult you, because I don't hate you. I just think that you have a corrupt government like many nations do, and your situation is that you either are of tribal mentality and support what surrounds you, or are coerced to do so out of concern for wellbeing.
P.S.: China will probably do what Russia did and invade Taiwan, in fact its a geopolitically favorable maneuver. They will spend a while wearing themselves down and exposing their military capability vs a second string force, while the US and Europe finish exporting the semi conductor industry, leaving Taiwan a mountainous island of little value. Thats all they really wanted.
Seethe Chang
Tibet should be free
Hong Kong should be free
China will never have Taiwan
1 month ago
Anonymous
Taiwan will be reunited with China. The US will not be able to control SE asia for another 10 years. China is too powerful, and Japan/Australia/S Korea are too weak.
1 month ago
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>CHING CHONG BING BONG CHING CHONG BING B-ACK
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>China is too powerful
Can't even take the Kinmen
1 month ago
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China can't even take control of a couple of wittle islands literally inside the harbor of one of their biggest cities and you expect anyone to believe they can invade an entire country across 100 miles of open ocean LMAO
1 month ago
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>China is too powerful
needs to eat bat, and spread flu, to affect western economics
1 month ago
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Ching chong ping pong Taiwan is not Hong Kong
1 month ago
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Why is everyone so mean to that wierd looking alien girl.
1 month ago
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>Why is everyone so mean to that wierd looking alien girl.
Chinks mad about having slant eyes
She is unconventionally attractive, but still attractive. Asian beauty standards are abhorrent
>She is unconventionally attractive, but still attractive
Imagine getting called a chink by Chinese, that poor woman
I think she's hot though
>that poor woman >I think she's hot though
https://i.imgur.com/nj3Zm3G.jpg
She actual looks cute af and better than 99% of the chinks women
>She actual looks cute af and better than 99% of the chinks women
She has some strong features, and what I would call an interesting face, which I find more attractive than conventional beauty. She's got some big dick sucking lips for a Chinese.
1 month ago
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She is unconventionally attractive, but still attractive. Asian beauty standards are abhorrent
1 month ago
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Imagine getting called a chink by Chinese, that poor woman
I think she's hot though
1 month ago
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She actual looks cute af and better than 99% of the chinks women
>What are devolved parliments
You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right, it wasn't by force, the UK literally bought them out, and then basically funded free higher education to them for decades.
Please stop talking like you have any knowledge of the complexities of politics.
1 month ago
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>You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right, it wasn't by force
Ehh...it was by trickery more than anything. Fuck Daniel DaFoe
1 month ago
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>You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right >Genocide the people who don't like you >"See, all the people remaining support me"
The eternal Anglo strikes again.
1 month ago
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>make the King of Scotland also the King of England >NOOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU DO THIS YOURE KILLING US AHHHHHHHHH
China just defines anyone living in China as Chinese. It isn’t actually an ethnic group any more than American is an ethnic group. If China imported 50 million Africans they would call them Han Chinese and 10 generations would pretend than dark-skinned Chinese with curly hair have always existed. Just look at the Jurchens and Yue the former of which are practically extinct and the latter of which are extinct as a separate ethnic group, yet the physical differences between North and South “Han” is easy to see even for the untrained eye.
It's really quite funny. Imagine if England never accepted their loss in the hundred years war and to this day, still keeps sending planes and ships into French waters, insisting France belongs to the English crown and threatening to use force to retake France.
>TSMC is the most important company in the world.
which the US has repeatedly and steadfastly stated it WILL DESTROY if taiwan attempts any "peace" or "hong-kong" esq agreement with China
>which the US has repeatedly and steadfastly stated it WILL DESTROY if taiwan attempts any "peace" or "hong-kong" esq agreement with China
May I see it?
A former National security advisor spotting off random bullshit is not the United States government.
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https://i.imgur.com/oLi1Bqk.jpg
>trump advisor >literally what would happen when chinese missiles were to hit Taiwan
Did all that benzene give you an extra chromosome?
you can cope however you want, but what I posted is what is presented to the American public on widely broadcast news
bitch about the source untill you go blue in the face
but the washington post, a literal mouthpiece for the government acknowledges detonated TSMC as the primary tactic to deny China access to lithography technology
anything you say to the contrary is meaningless horse shit, dog piss even
1 month ago
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>NOOOOO STOP QUESTIONING THE SOURCE AHHHHHHHHH
KEK
That's 2 of not what you said and a click bait piece full of conspiracy theories
You tried
1 month ago
Anonymous
Blocking sales of machines that use licensed American tech is unthinkable but bombing an allied country because they decided to sign a peace treaty isn't?
I cant have any rational conversation here
US house of representative members have stated detonating TSMC as an option, National Security advisors under Trump have stated it
and you people wont accept the washington post, one of the most influential media-features of the current administration as "Fact" this has been floated as a response
there is nothing more to say to you people
its pointless
truly, utterly pointless
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Let me try to get this through your gutter oil-addled chink brain:
1. You stated the US would blow up TSMC if Taiwan was peacefully, willfully (lol, lmao) annexed by China
2. We asked for proof of this
3. Your proof consists of articles quoting former officials speaking about what might hypothetically happen in an invasion.
4. We point out that none of the articles are evidence to your assertion
5. You sperg out in microchong rage about the WaPo for some reason
So will you submit any evidence of these supposed plans to destroy the fabs during a peaceful handover or not?
1 month ago
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US bombing it's supposed ally would utterly destroy any credibility USA holds internationally.
1 month ago
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They blew up Nordstream and nothing happened.
1 month ago
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Source?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hey I'll believe in you, just post your gun with timestamp real quick.
Blocking sales of machines that use licensed American tech is unthinkable but bombing an allied country because they decided to sign a peace treaty isn't?
uh yeah? we just did it to china and set their industry back a decade according to the chinese themselves.
[...]
I cant have any rational conversation here
US house of representative members have stated detonating TSMC as an option, National Security advisors under Trump have stated it
and you people wont accept the washington post, one of the most influential media-features of the current administration as "Fact" this has been floated as a response
there is nothing more to say to you people
its pointless
truly, utterly pointless
members of the house of representatives and national security advisors say retarded shit all of the time and they said it in relation to a Chinese invasion, not a peaceful resolution of the conflict. Which at this point can only happen via China renouncing claims to the island because nobody in Taiwan is stupid enough to see the hong kong compromise as a solution anymore. Between 1 and 5% of Taiwanese want unification of any kind with the mainland. Taiwan has never been part of the people's republic and hasn't been controlled by the mainland since the 19th century.
If China wasn't being retarded and belligerent this never would have been an issue and there might still be a path to peaceful reunification.
Hey retard, who do you think made the chips that is hosting all your telecoms, including being able to post here? Or your phone? Don’t answer that, your next line will be something variably retarded and incorrect. Don’t try any gotcha’s like “you’re so smart” retard, you ain’t clever.
NTA but I’ll answer for that anon anyway.
All the manufacturing should have all been here in the US in the first place. Trade secrets and a workforce with the experience in the industry are also important national security concerns.
>taiwan is a nothingburger.
Taiwan produces almost two-thirds of the whole planet's share of semiconductors.
Cuba was only relevant because they were communists and they allowed the soviets to place nukes on the island. Other than that Cuba was absolutely irrelevant to most of the world.
Terrible analogy but I do want to see the timeline were the Confederates fed to the Caribbean at the end of the Civil War and just started a based New America there
If China has any critical thinking whatsoever they'd just ignore Taiwan until the USA has their own chip facilities of the same caliber. The reason the USA is REQUIRED at a live or die level to go to war over Taiwan is that they provide the chips for our high tech hardware and we simultaneously cannot allow China to deprive us of that, and we cannot allow China to take that over, as it would shift the balance of chip power to them. Ironically, this means that the power who ACTUALLY benefits most from a direct conflict between China and Taiwan as soon as possible is Taiwan, as they currently have America by the balls forcing them to defend them, but with time they will become irrelevant with the recent direction America is going with a heavy focus on domestic chip creation
The US will NEVER allow China to conquer Taiwan. Taiwan is the lynchpin of the first island chain that is containing Chinese aggression and expansionism. If Taiwan falls that allows the Chinese to further push their claims on the SCS and any surrounding territories and setup more of their shitty tofu dredge island bases to threaten the second island chains, Japan and the our ASEAN allies.
I think it's more that, considering the distance between China and Taiwan, if they throw enough shit at it (because god knows China isn't going to rely on quality to do the job instead of quantity) then obviously some shit will get through. And it's a good idea to have decent forces ready to meet them when it happens.
If Russia was even as powerful as 1990 America they would have bombed Ukraine flat inside of a month.
Every single second past that is a legendary, historical, epic embarrassment.
Imagine bragging that a ten year old "isn't doing much damage to you" in a boxing match when it's taken you five rounds so far and you haven't scored a knockdown.
Taiwan has been a historic ally since over 70 years
I still hope Abrams get traded so Taiwan can send their M60 and M48 variants to Ukraine, they use 105mm like leopard 1 and have night fighting capabilities
There’s so many things Taiwan needs before tanks it’s crazy. Meanwhile China has been making Javelin copies for a decade. Of course, the deal is probably just political in nature; America is their actual security guarantee so it’s very important to maintain a positive relationship.
The Bear of Kinmen ran over so many PLA infantrymen during the Battle of Guningtou that it threw a track from all the dead Chang bits squished in its sprockets. That's the best I can think of.
It makes amphibious landings that much harder. China would need to mount a massive naval landing and keep it going with a constant stream of supplies and reinforcements in order to realistically take Taiwan without spending months flattening it to the ground. If Taiwan can push that initial toehold back into the sea, then China won't be able to recover the momentum.
In reality there won’t be US intervention in an invasion scenario. Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
In fairness using gutter oil IS a crime in China because they know how bad it is for you, people have been put to death for knowingly using it. But it's so rarely enforced and widespread that it might as well not be a crime.
moron, it's fucking everywhere, and nobody goes to jail over it. Especially when they can just bride the local police, or get their CCP relatives to deal with it. Why lie?
In fairness using gutter oil IS a crime in China because they know how bad it is for you, people have been put to death for knowingly using it. But it's so rarely enforced and widespread that it might as well not be a crime.
moron, it's fucking everywhere, and nobody goes to jail over it. Especially when they can just bride the local police, or get their CCP relatives to deal with it. Why lie?
Even the Chinese government admits that people are consuming at least ten million gallons of sewage in the form of cooking oil every year.
Imagine how big the actual number is.
those are AI fakes.. some garden gnome from Russia uses new replacement and shadow AI to create this shit non stop because his shizo world cant live with chinese supporting russians..
>Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
What does mr. Xi think about the US singing a military pact with Taiwan a year ago?
Trying to use the tactic of screaming nukes if anyone tries to stop them just means that they MUST be stopped or there'll be no end to the fuckwits trying to emulate them.
>Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
Monke ook-ook-nuked for the last 18 months and now Ukraine is getting F-16s. Pooh Bear better not be relying on the same strategy.
Xi knows that America has enough nukes to turn everywhere people live in China into one giant radioactive crater. China does not have the ability to do the same to the US.
Xi is retarded but I like to think he's not THAT retarded.
Xi watches world events and has learned that the US backs off from nuclear threats. Biden wouldn’t even put weapon monitors in Ukraine. You’re out to lunch if you think the far more credible threat by China will just be called as a bluff. The US will decide it’s not worth the risk as usual.
Hmmmm, sure seems familiar... y'know, like with Russia making threat after threat of nuclear war if the West keeps sending aid to Ukraine and Russia never following through because they know that would mean instant death for their entire nation?
And China doesn't even have enough nukes to destroy NATO AND the US. So let's say they launched an all out strike on the US, well that just means Europe is going to launch everything they have at China AND Russia just to make sure. Meanwhile a significant portion of China's ICBM's get intercepted and the US ends up with maybe 20 or so cities that get hit.
Plus that ignores that like 90% of China's nukes are medium-range designed to keep people away and/or hit their immediate neighbors, they can't even reach the US.
Check the total yield dumbass. China doesn't use tactical nukes.
Plus that ignores that like 90% of China's nukes are medium-range designed to keep people away and/or hit their immediate neighbors, they can't even reach the US.
That's India most of China icbm are designed to hit the USA.
Nobody will have the balls to use nukes just like in Ukraine. It's going to be a conventional war and nobody fucking knows how it's going to go. US should win but Russia was supposed to win in a week too.
Yet Biden REFUSED to intervene, even as just a no-fly-zone. Not even to station weapon inspectors. THAT’S how adverse the US is to nuclear threats. China’s threat is MUCH more serious than Russia’s.
Taiwan is also 100x more important than Ukraine. Attack on Taiwan will mean war. China is supposedly already stockpiling electronic parts in case shit goes hot soon.
Yet Biden REFUSED to intervene, even as just a no-fly-zone. Not even to station weapon inspectors. THAT’S how adverse the US is to nuclear threats. China’s threat is MUCH more serious than Russia’s.
Ok, what are you gonna do if Xi takes too long to do something about Taiwan and the next US president says he'll glass China if they try? Biden has, at most, 5 more years.
Nice try Chang. But transition of power doesn't happen for months after the election. You would still be bombed back into the stone age and suffer 100 years of decisive Tang victories
>Mao: we can spare a few hundred million and still come out on top
Because every show of force in that vein (Lusitania, Pear Harbor) hasn't resulted in genocidal levels of attrition in retaliation. Xi can glass Taiwan and walk over the rubble and keep his hermit cargo cult kingdom + Taiwan or nothing at all.
nuclear terrorism didn't even work in 1945, at least not without the combined prospect of total encirclement by combined allied forces. stop crying wolf
>Nuke the three gorges dam >Half of China dies between the floods and the ensuing starvation >Nuke every major American city >America and the rest of the world actually is better off, you've saved the west.
>Whatifalthist is foreign propaganda
Retard, I've met the man.
It's not complicated, just look up the statistics of race and religion and political party by county, and wow, holy shit! Turns out the cities are where all the problems are!
>Turns out the cities are where all the problems are!
metro areas are where all of most things are. if you want to reduce america to a rural backwater, feel free to try, but nobody is with you but idiots
"reliant" =/= reliant
reliance is calculated by government spending.
This includes bases and post office.
Such a statistic is inherently biases toward rural areas where new buildings can be put up, compared to crowded metro areas.
>see where that gets you
Some production decline and then everything back to normal within ten years although with less crime and the average iq will also stop plummeting
>Blockades straits of Malacca >Everyone embargoes China >80% unemployment rate >Invasion stalls because China is a corrupt shithole with an incompetent military who hasn’t fought a war since the 70s and never engages in exercises with other countries
Also China lacks the arsenal to enforce MAD.
If a people don't want to join your country, and your way of showing your disagreement is to use force, then you're an imperialist invader plain and simple. >but what if Taiwan wants to join peacefully
You're right, that is another option. And that used to be a fairly popular option there. But judging by Taiwanese opinion polls, that ship sank after the Hong Kong security law was passed because it was made very clear that Beijing has no intention of honoring a "1 nation, 2 systems" policy and now the Taiwanese are firmly against it.
May as well just surrender. Clearly Taiwan military leadership is retarded and not interested in fighting the war in a smart way. They need missile launch pads literally every square meter and underwater mines, not tanks
All the wargames and simulations showed that any Taiwan invasion will be a missile spam shooting war. Wouldn't it be better to send Taiwan as many long range missiles as possible?
The wargames simulations don't take into account that China plans to angrily spam fishing boats packed with soldiers until it runs out of one or the other.
War games assume both sides are smart. Unfortunately representing China's strategies accurately would be "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people."
Tanks are necessary tools for any nation’s arsenal.
Even if a potential war is mostly the spamming of rockets, missiles, artillery, ships, and aircraft; heavy land assets are still important for any eventual ground fighting.
Not to mention the US as a ton of abrams collecting sand and dust and Taiwan’s armor assets are severely out of date.
So let me get this straight, deng xiaoping was doing good for china and being friendly, but after xi took over the modern "paper tiger" strongman china was in effect?
You guys know China is never going to actually do it, right? They've been doing this since Mao, every General Secretary says they're going to be the one that retakes Taiwan...and then they never actually even attempt it. >Mao said he would, never did >Deng said he would, never did >Jiang said he would, never did >Hu said he would, never did
And now we're at Xi. it's all just beating their chest so that they don't look like a spineless pussy in front of their countrymen because man...if they got serious, you wouldn't even be able to contain their powerlevel! It's all face culture bullshit.
>>Deng said he would, never did
said he would, never did >>Hu said he would, never did
These weren't fucking retarded like Xi is.
So unfortunately there is a chance they actually do this time now that they are a single digit number of years away from an irreparable demographic structure. Xi may say it's now or never, and unlike his predecessors besides Mao, nobody in the party would advise against his decisions.
Under Mao they were too busy killing themselves,with Deng,Jiang and Hu they were rearming.Now they got as strong as they ever gonna be,that is why Xi is gonna do it.
The festivals come from one region of china, but dog meat restaurants can be found in every city in the country, you just need to know the chinese name for it.
To be fair:
People thought that Russia wouldn't be ready for years and yet Russia still invaded far sooner than expected.
What makes you think that the Chinamen are any much better?
If nothing else, watching Russia go first and fall flat on their faces is probably going to give them some pause. It unfortunately might actually make them more cautious and thus less likely to do retarded shit like Russia did at the start.
>Abrams are fuel inefficient
Irrelevant with supply lines that short. >not ideal for mountains either
Because of the weight? It should be able to cross all the bridges it needs to.
>Irrelevant with supply lines that short.
You mean very relevant given that Taiwan is an island without its own hydrocarbon resources. It all has to be shipped.
>And the cities are to the west. If you’re fighting in the mountains it’s already over.
Tanks wouldn't effective against PLA ships and aircraft including UAVs anyways.
Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
Like if the PLA/PLAN have gotten to the point that they are offloading heavy brigades onto the island it's probably game over.
Wouldn't the resources spent on this be better invested into more standoff weapons, air defence, shore defence ect.
You could put a lot of harpoon and hellfire systems around for the same cost.
> Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
Not just yes, but also it would be the best counter. One of the big, glaring weaknesses of light infantry is that, by definition, they have to be pretty light on anti-armor. Or rather, they’re light on persistent anti-armor, since the only things they have access to is what can be carried on Peng’s back. And while you can theoretically airdrop a tank out of an aircraft, it’s a very, very inefficient use of strategic airlift.
you don't need an abrams to overmatch light infantry though that's the point, against a javelin analogue or a loitering munition there is little difference between an M60A1 and an M1A2
>Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
use the abrams as a mobile anti-naval gun battery, it will take care of any retard marine infantry trying amphibious bullshit that's for sure
Australia has already proven you can dump 60t behemoths in island cunts.
Pic related, military exercises in the Philippines.
ADF command BTFO anti-MBT lobbyists in the Philippine military establishment, the US Army (who always refused to bring their Abrams in island countries even in Japan) and the USMC (who dumped all of their M1A2s for more Humvees and HIMARS)
taiwan is a nothingburger. imagine if american neocons kept drumbeating about invading cuba to this day
I love how China supports Argentina in 'reclaiming the imperialistic grabbed territory of UK' in the Falklands, but if you go
>Oh aren't you being imperialistic land grabbers with Taiwan?
They get super fucking angry.
Taiwan is actually Chinese though
They are being imperialistic of course.
The Falklands is inhabited with, almost entirely, British people, not Latin Americans.
Yeah. Thanks for not contradicting my post.
and parts of ukraine are almost entirely inhabited by russians.
I guess we didn't bomb their children enough
Yes bilhorod will be cleansed
>Taiwan is actually Chinese though
That's correct. Taiwan is the rightful ruler of China.
Indeed. That is an option too.
They had their chance though and completely blew it. Its like saying the CSA is still the rightful ruler of the South, or the Turks are the rightful rulers of the Balkans and the Levant. the opportunity was there at one point but they lost it and there's no going back.
Taiwan has the highest IQ on earth and best health care system. It's the 2nd richest citizens in east Asia
China is a poor shithole
The Republic of Sun Yat-sen will be restored on the mainland
>China is a poor shithole
20y ago sure. Not today.
Lol
Stop acting like 20 years old cctv videos are relevant today.
Cool, now show me the unemployment numbers.
>Housing development market is allowed to list unsold merchandise as "sales"
Is that why more than 600 million chinsects still live on less than $1400/year, and live in extreme poverty? This is all according to the CCP Politburo. Are you telling me Xi's hand picked man is lying about 600 million chinsects living in extreme poverty?
There are thirty million Chinese living in caves right now.
>and best health care system.
It's one of the shittiest shit-tier "death care" systems outside of Africa. They literally lie to patients and tell them everything's fine when it isn't, just to avoid paying for treatment.
you said it backwards. Mainland China is Taiwan. Taiwan is the legitimate continuance government before the traitorous rebellion of the PRC happened. That Taiwan continues to exist continues to mandate by international law that the mainland Chinese government is illegitimate, and the equivalent of other countries and even the US dealing with a rebel warlord.
Just....so you know.
US embassy in Taiwan…
>taking the bait, going out of his way to post twice rather than side by side.
note:
>no US flag displayed on communist insurgent territory.
>Republic of China flying F-16s
>Republic of China using PAVE PAWS
>Republic of China Army using AH-64s
I don't need to insult you, because I don't hate you. I just think that you have a corrupt government like many nations do, and your situation is that you either are of tribal mentality and support what surrounds you, or are coerced to do so out of concern for wellbeing.
P.S.: China will probably do what Russia did and invade Taiwan, in fact its a geopolitically favorable maneuver. They will spend a while wearing themselves down and exposing their military capability vs a second string force, while the US and Europe finish exporting the semi conductor industry, leaving Taiwan a mountainous island of little value. Thats all they really wanted.
kek. those bulletproof windows.. looks like locals are very welcoming the americans there..
….and the US embassy in China.
Just so you know.
Yeah, as opposed to a foreign colonial-impressed ideology like Communism. And we're trying to keep it that way.
east ukraine is actually russian though
wdym? the malvinas are rightful argentinian clay, just like taiwan is to china.
Just like China is to Taiwan
China is rightful British clay just like the Falklands
britain is the definition of an empire
scotland should be independent, and northern ireland belongs to ireland
Seethe Chang
Tibet should be free
Hong Kong should be free
China will never have Taiwan
Taiwan will be reunited with China. The US will not be able to control SE asia for another 10 years. China is too powerful, and Japan/Australia/S Korea are too weak.
>CHING CHONG BING BONG CHING CHONG BING B-ACK
>China is too powerful
Can't even take the Kinmen
China can't even take control of a couple of wittle islands literally inside the harbor of one of their biggest cities and you expect anyone to believe they can invade an entire country across 100 miles of open ocean LMAO
>China is too powerful
needs to eat bat, and spread flu, to affect western economics
Ching chong ping pong Taiwan is not Hong Kong
Why is everyone so mean to that wierd looking alien girl.
>Why is everyone so mean to that wierd looking alien girl.
Chinks mad about having slant eyes
>She is unconventionally attractive, but still attractive
>that poor woman
>I think she's hot though
>She actual looks cute af and better than 99% of the chinks women
She has some strong features, and what I would call an interesting face, which I find more attractive than conventional beauty. She's got some big dick sucking lips for a Chinese.
She is unconventionally attractive, but still attractive. Asian beauty standards are abhorrent
Imagine getting called a chink by Chinese, that poor woman
I think she's hot though
She actual looks cute af and better than 99% of the chinks women
>What are devolved parliments
You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right, it wasn't by force, the UK literally bought them out, and then basically funded free higher education to them for decades.
Please stop talking like you have any knowledge of the complexities of politics.
>You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right, it wasn't by force
Ehh...it was by trickery more than anything. Fuck Daniel DaFoe
>You do realise Scotland agreed to the union right
>Genocide the people who don't like you
>"See, all the people remaining support me"
The eternal Anglo strikes again.
>make the King of Scotland also the King of England
>NOOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU DO THIS YOURE KILLING US AHHHHHHHHH
>Oh aren't you being imperialistic land grabbers with Taiwan?
>and Inner Mongolia
>and Tibet
China just defines anyone living in China as Chinese. It isn’t actually an ethnic group any more than American is an ethnic group. If China imported 50 million Africans they would call them Han Chinese and 10 generations would pretend than dark-skinned Chinese with curly hair have always existed. Just look at the Jurchens and Yue the former of which are practically extinct and the latter of which are extinct as a separate ethnic group, yet the physical differences between North and South “Han” is easy to see even for the untrained eye.
You're dumb. China also claims all Chinese diaspora as Chinese wherever they live.
It's really quite funny. Imagine if England never accepted their loss in the hundred years war and to this day, still keeps sending planes and ships into French waters, insisting France belongs to the English crown and threatening to use force to retake France.
That's just how retarded it is.
>Imagine if americans
Third world anthem
Taiwan controlls electronic industry. TSMC is the most important company in the world.
Comparing this to a worthless shithole like Cuba is idiotic.
>TSMC is the most important company in the world.
which the US has repeatedly and steadfastly stated it WILL DESTROY if taiwan attempts any "peace" or "hong-kong" esq agreement with China
>which the US has repeatedly and steadfastly stated it WILL DESTROY if taiwan attempts any "peace" or "hong-kong" esq agreement with China
May I see it?
>May I see it?
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-would-destroy-taiwan-semiconductor-factories-avoid-china-trump-adviser-2023-3
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-threatens-to-blow-up-taiwans-semiconductor-manufacturing/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/12/microchips-us-taiwan-strategy/
This is an easily searchable, widely distributed topic. you shouldnt need "me" to give you a source
next time do your own work
Yet China will still lose if it ever tries to invade
1 and 3: Literally about what would happen if China invades
2: >eurasian times
Why do you changs always lie?
A former National security advisor spotting off random bullshit is not the United States government.
you can cope however you want, but what I posted is what is presented to the American public on widely broadcast news
bitch about the source untill you go blue in the face
but the washington post, a literal mouthpiece for the government acknowledges detonated TSMC as the primary tactic to deny China access to lithography technology
anything you say to the contrary is meaningless horse shit, dog piss even
>NOOOOO STOP QUESTIONING THE SOURCE AHHHHHHHHH
KEK
>trump advisor
>literally what would happen when chinese missiles were to hit Taiwan
Did all that benzene give you an extra chromosome?
That's 2 of not what you said and a click bait piece full of conspiracy theories
You tried
I cant have any rational conversation here
US house of representative members have stated detonating TSMC as an option, National Security advisors under Trump have stated it
and you people wont accept the washington post, one of the most influential media-features of the current administration as "Fact" this has been floated as a response
there is nothing more to say to you people
its pointless
truly, utterly pointless
Let me try to get this through your gutter oil-addled chink brain:
1. You stated the US would blow up TSMC if Taiwan was peacefully, willfully (lol, lmao) annexed by China
2. We asked for proof of this
3. Your proof consists of articles quoting former officials speaking about what might hypothetically happen in an invasion.
4. We point out that none of the articles are evidence to your assertion
5. You sperg out in microchong rage about the WaPo for some reason
So will you submit any evidence of these supposed plans to destroy the fabs during a peaceful handover or not?
US bombing it's supposed ally would utterly destroy any credibility USA holds internationally.
They blew up Nordstream and nothing happened.
Source?
Hey I'll believe in you, just post your gun with timestamp real quick.
True. And they also couldn't service or run the facilities even if captured in situ. lol lmao.
Would they even need to? They can simply block exports of ASML tech
>Would they even need to? They can simply block exports of ASML tech
you think something so valuable could be simply "blocked"?
are you brain damaged?
Blocking sales of machines that use licensed American tech is unthinkable but bombing an allied country because they decided to sign a peace treaty isn't?
uh yeah? we just did it to china and set their industry back a decade according to the chinese themselves.
members of the house of representatives and national security advisors say retarded shit all of the time and they said it in relation to a Chinese invasion, not a peaceful resolution of the conflict. Which at this point can only happen via China renouncing claims to the island because nobody in Taiwan is stupid enough to see the hong kong compromise as a solution anymore. Between 1 and 5% of Taiwanese want unification of any kind with the mainland. Taiwan has never been part of the people's republic and hasn't been controlled by the mainland since the 19th century.
If China wasn't being retarded and belligerent this never would have been an issue and there might still be a path to peaceful reunification.
If anyone moved on Taiwan TSMC would get popped almost immediately. They're the leading chip fab in the world and make stuff nobody else can.
>neocons
Saying this here won't get people on your side
Hey retard, who do you think made the chips that is hosting all your telecoms, including being able to post here? Or your phone? Don’t answer that, your next line will be something variably retarded and incorrect. Don’t try any gotcha’s like “you’re so smart” retard, you ain’t clever.
NTA but I’ll answer for that anon anyway.
All the manufacturing should have all been here in the US in the first place. Trade secrets and a workforce with the experience in the industry are also important national security concerns.
What would, US gain from invading latina shithole? I would rather believe annexing parts of Russia for sweet resources.
>invading latina shithole
>invading latina shithole
>What would, US gain from invading latina shithole?
Anal sex, one would think
>invading latina shithole
Si, me gusta culo
>invading latina shithole
ping poing ching chong bong
nice. We should be funding Taiwan and not piggies in ukraine
>taiwan is a nothingburger.
Taiwan produces almost two-thirds of the whole planet's share of semiconductors.
Cuba was only relevant because they were communists and they allowed the soviets to place nukes on the island. Other than that Cuba was absolutely irrelevant to most of the world.
Terrible analogy but I do want to see the timeline were the Confederates fed to the Caribbean at the end of the Civil War and just started a based New America there
>neocons
Go back to plebbit, retard.
If China has any critical thinking whatsoever they'd just ignore Taiwan until the USA has their own chip facilities of the same caliber. The reason the USA is REQUIRED at a live or die level to go to war over Taiwan is that they provide the chips for our high tech hardware and we simultaneously cannot allow China to deprive us of that, and we cannot allow China to take that over, as it would shift the balance of chip power to them. Ironically, this means that the power who ACTUALLY benefits most from a direct conflict between China and Taiwan as soon as possible is Taiwan, as they currently have America by the balls forcing them to defend them, but with time they will become irrelevant with the recent direction America is going with a heavy focus on domestic chip creation
The US will NEVER allow China to conquer Taiwan. Taiwan is the lynchpin of the first island chain that is containing Chinese aggression and expansionism. If Taiwan falls that allows the Chinese to further push their claims on the SCS and any surrounding territories and setup more of their shitty tofu dredge island bases to threaten the second island chains, Japan and the our ASEAN allies.
Which means they've decided that the USN is unable - or unwilling - to prevent the PLN from landing their army in force.
Funny how everything is a Chinese victory, kinda like how Russians are telling themselves they are winning in Ukraine.
I think it's more that, considering the distance between China and Taiwan, if they throw enough shit at it (because god knows China isn't going to rely on quality to do the job instead of quantity) then obviously some shit will get through. And it's a good idea to have decent forces ready to meet them when it happens.
Taiwan will get Abraham tanks before Ukrainians
Ukes are doing fine without Abrams.
making very little to no progress on your much hyped counter offensive is doing fine? I'll have the cope this yuropoor is having lmao
If Russia was even as powerful as 1990 America they would have bombed Ukraine flat inside of a month.
Every single second past that is a legendary, historical, epic embarrassment.
Imagine bragging that a ten year old "isn't doing much damage to you" in a boxing match when it's taken you five rounds so far and you haven't scored a knockdown.
>was even as powerful as 1990 America
America isn't as powerful as 1990 America.
>Noooo you aren't taking territory fast enough while inflicting triple the losses on the defenders!!!!
Taiwan has been a historic ally since over 70 years
I still hope Abrams get traded so Taiwan can send their M60 and M48 variants to Ukraine, they use 105mm like leopard 1 and have night fighting capabilities
such a historic ally that the current regime insists it does not recognize their existence?
There’s so many things Taiwan needs before tanks it’s crazy. Meanwhile China has been making Javelin copies for a decade. Of course, the deal is probably just political in nature; America is their actual security guarantee so it’s very important to maintain a positive relationship.
>Meanwhile China has been making Javelin copies for a decade
Has a Chinese infantryman ever actually destroyed a manned tank in history?
The Bear of Kinmen ran over so many PLA infantrymen during the Battle of Guningtou that it threw a track from all the dead Chang bits squished in its sprockets. That's the best I can think of.
Surely that money would be better spent on either air, or coastal, defenses?
They probably want an invasion of Taiwan, they saw all the attention Ukraine is getting and felt left-out.
That always was a top priority their land forces are hilariously outdated. And they do need at least some of them.
They need more anti-ship missiles than armor.
What does Taiwan require Abrams for? It's a small island.
It makes amphibious landings that much harder. China would need to mount a massive naval landing and keep it going with a constant stream of supplies and reinforcements in order to realistically take Taiwan without spending months flattening it to the ground. If Taiwan can push that initial toehold back into the sea, then China won't be able to recover the momentum.
Gaijin paid off someone so they can add a new premium Abrams for China
>Taiwan
>Abrams
What the actual fuck...
Why would Taiwan be acquiring tanks?
Are they planning to claim the mainland?
Do you think Taiwan is building landing platforms for nothing?
In reality there won’t be US intervention in an invasion scenario. Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
>the US calls china's bluff
What now? China isn't going to end the world because of a "province" they've never controlled in the first place
>chinese nukes
>chinese missiles
i'd take those odds
You think the US would fall for that bluff when we literally have thousands of more nukes?
CHING CHONG BING BONG
I can't believe how many videos there are of China doing this. It makes me gag just thinking about eating within the borders of that shithole
In fairness using gutter oil IS a crime in China because they know how bad it is for you, people have been put to death for knowingly using it. But it's so rarely enforced and widespread that it might as well not be a crime.
moron, it's fucking everywhere, and nobody goes to jail over it. Especially when they can just bride the local police, or get their CCP relatives to deal with it. Why lie?
Did you not read what I said? I said it is a crime but it might as well not be because no one enforces it and everyone uses it
Even the Chinese government admits that people are consuming at least ten million gallons of sewage in the form of cooking oil every year.
Imagine how big the actual number is.
those are AI fakes.. some garden gnome from Russia uses new replacement and shadow AI to create this shit non stop because his shizo world cant live with chinese supporting russians..
>Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
What does mr. Xi think about the US singing a military pact with Taiwan a year ago?
Trying to use the tactic of screaming nukes if anyone tries to stop them just means that they MUST be stopped or there'll be no end to the fuckwits trying to emulate them.
>Xi will declare nuclear retaliation on anyone firing on Chinese forces and that EFFECTIVELY shuts down US intervention.
Monke ook-ook-nuked for the last 18 months and now Ukraine is getting F-16s. Pooh Bear better not be relying on the same strategy.
Xi knows that America has enough nukes to turn everywhere people live in China into one giant radioactive crater. China does not have the ability to do the same to the US.
Xi is retarded but I like to think he's not THAT retarded.
Xi watches world events and has learned that the US backs off from nuclear threats. Biden wouldn’t even put weapon monitors in Ukraine. You’re out to lunch if you think the far more credible threat by China will just be called as a bluff. The US will decide it’s not worth the risk as usual.
Hmmmm, sure seems familiar... y'know, like with Russia making threat after threat of nuclear war if the West keeps sending aid to Ukraine and Russia never following through because they know that would mean instant death for their entire nation?
And China doesn't even have enough nukes to destroy NATO AND the US. So let's say they launched an all out strike on the US, well that just means Europe is going to launch everything they have at China AND Russia just to make sure. Meanwhile a significant portion of China's ICBM's get intercepted and the US ends up with maybe 20 or so cities that get hit.
Plus that ignores that like 90% of China's nukes are medium-range designed to keep people away and/or hit their immediate neighbors, they can't even reach the US.
Check the total yield dumbass. China doesn't use tactical nukes.
That's India most of China icbm are designed to hit the USA.
China just showed a year or two ago that their top of the line super duper missile system had a margin of error measured in dozens of miles.
>Check the total yield dumbas
Doesn't matter if you drop ten kilotons or ten megatons on every US city. It won't be enough.
Oh no, not CHINA'S FINAL WARNING!
Nobody will have the balls to use nukes just like in Ukraine. It's going to be a conventional war and nobody fucking knows how it's going to go. US should win but Russia was supposed to win in a week too.
Yet Biden REFUSED to intervene, even as just a no-fly-zone. Not even to station weapon inspectors. THAT’S how adverse the US is to nuclear threats. China’s threat is MUCH more serious than Russia’s.
Taiwan is also 100x more important than Ukraine. Attack on Taiwan will mean war. China is supposedly already stockpiling electronic parts in case shit goes hot soon.
Ok, what are you gonna do if Xi takes too long to do something about Taiwan and the next US president says he'll glass China if they try? Biden has, at most, 5 more years.
If China attacks they are going to do it in the middle of US presidential campaign. Most likely on the voting day to delay response.
Nice try Chang. But transition of power doesn't happen for months after the election. You would still be bombed back into the stone age and suffer 100 years of decisive Tang victories
i am throbbing, i cannot wait to murder you chink chicom gays
>Mao: we can spare a few hundred million and still come out on top
Because every show of force in that vein (Lusitania, Pear Harbor) hasn't resulted in genocidal levels of attrition in retaliation. Xi can glass Taiwan and walk over the rubble and keep his hermit cargo cult kingdom + Taiwan or nothing at all.
You stupid chink gay the chinks only have 300 warheads to the US's 5000.
nuclear terrorism didn't even work in 1945, at least not without the combined prospect of total encirclement by combined allied forces. stop crying wolf
>Nuke the three gorges dam
>Half of China dies between the floods and the ensuing starvation
>Nuke every major American city
>America and the rest of the world actually is better off, you've saved the west.
it's funny that there are americans dumb enough to believe foreign propaganda stating that they'll be better off nuked out of existence
>Whatifalthist is foreign propaganda
Retard, I've met the man.
It's not complicated, just look up the statistics of race and religion and political party by county, and wow, holy shit! Turns out the cities are where all the problems are!
>Turns out the cities are where all the problems are!
metro areas are where all of most things are. if you want to reduce america to a rural backwater, feel free to try, but nobody is with you but idiots
>Turns out the cities are where all the problems are!
It's where all of everything is.
Go ahead, nuke America's top 20 cities. See where that would take you.
https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-urban-or-rural-is-your-state-and-what-does-that-mean-for-the-2020-election/
"reliant" =/= reliant
reliance is calculated by government spending.
This includes bases and post office.
Such a statistic is inherently biases toward rural areas where new buildings can be put up, compared to crowded metro areas.
>see where that gets you
Some production decline and then everything back to normal within ten years although with less crime and the average iq will also stop plummeting
>cities are where all the problems are
also the money and innovation for some reason you dumb fuck
>Blockades straits of Malacca
>Everyone embargoes China
>80% unemployment rate
>Invasion stalls because China is a corrupt shithole with an incompetent military who hasn’t fought a war since the 70s and never engages in exercises with other countries
Also China lacks the arsenal to enforce MAD.
Please don't upset the neocons. They're still stuck in a time when it was ridiculous to think that the US could lose in Afghanistan
>M1A2T
Monke model?
Why the T?
Taiwan
what the fuck is taiwan going to do with tanks? they're a small island
Small island nations don’t have the space for defense in depth, and need to contest their beaches, or at least the routes off their beaches.
It's 14,000 square miles. You really don't think land forces are needed for battle in that much space?
Why is China such a shithole when Taiwan is so amazing?
The PRC will be returned to the ROC.
The people of the mainland will be free from the communist dystopia that has enslaved them.
If a people don't want to join your country, and your way of showing your disagreement is to use force, then you're an imperialist invader plain and simple.
>but what if Taiwan wants to join peacefully
You're right, that is another option. And that used to be a fairly popular option there. But judging by Taiwanese opinion polls, that ship sank after the Hong Kong security law was passed because it was made very clear that Beijing has no intention of honoring a "1 nation, 2 systems" policy and now the Taiwanese are firmly against it.
>get taken out by suicide drones.
Tanks is an outdated concept
>China moves landing fleet into position
>Taiwan idles Abrams tanks in anticipation
>China stalls for 12 hours
>Taiwan runs out of fuel
>China invades
Terrible tanks for taiwan, far too big and heavy. They would be better of with more anti-tank missiles, suicide drones and some semi-modern jap tanks.
May as well just surrender. Clearly Taiwan military leadership is retarded and not interested in fighting the war in a smart way. They need missile launch pads literally every square meter and underwater mines, not tanks
>taiwan liberated by m2 bradley fighting vehicles
its only a matter of time
War will start in November next year better get ready.
Better do it before next August, that's when China will invade. Screencap this.
I don't understand this purchase.
All the wargames and simulations showed that any Taiwan invasion will be a missile spam shooting war. Wouldn't it be better to send Taiwan as many long range missiles as possible?
The wargames simulations don't take into account that China plans to angrily spam fishing boats packed with soldiers until it runs out of one or the other.
War games assume both sides are smart. Unfortunately representing China's strategies accurately would be "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people."
Tanks are necessary tools for any nation’s arsenal.
Even if a potential war is mostly the spamming of rockets, missiles, artillery, ships, and aircraft; heavy land assets are still important for any eventual ground fighting.
Not to mention the US as a ton of abrams collecting sand and dust and Taiwan’s armor assets are severely out of date.
So let me get this straight, deng xiaoping was doing good for china and being friendly, but after xi took over the modern "paper tiger" strongman china was in effect?
You kinda missed a 20-year period where neither Deng nor Xi was in charge
You guys know China is never going to actually do it, right? They've been doing this since Mao, every General Secretary says they're going to be the one that retakes Taiwan...and then they never actually even attempt it.
>Mao said he would, never did
>Deng said he would, never did
>Jiang said he would, never did
>Hu said he would, never did
And now we're at Xi. it's all just beating their chest so that they don't look like a spineless pussy in front of their countrymen because man...if they got serious, you wouldn't even be able to contain their powerlevel! It's all face culture bullshit.
>>Deng said he would, never did
said he would, never did
>>Hu said he would, never did
These weren't fucking retarded like Xi is.
So unfortunately there is a chance they actually do this time now that they are a single digit number of years away from an irreparable demographic structure. Xi may say it's now or never, and unlike his predecessors besides Mao, nobody in the party would advise against his decisions.
>These weren't fucking retarded like Xi is.
Mao definitely was
Yes, that's why I didn't meme arrow him. He actually tried (shelling the Kinmen Islands, not actual Taiwan).
Under Mao they were too busy killing themselves,with Deng,Jiang and Hu they were rearming.Now they got as strong as they ever gonna be,that is why Xi is gonna do it.
STILL A FAR DISTANCE FROM STRONG ENOUGH
What's even going to be left of China in 2030?
Is it true China still has dog eating festivals?
The festivals come from one region of china, but dog meat restaurants can be found in every city in the country, you just need to know the chinese name for it.
f you reincarnate as a dog in Asia, you must try to be born in Japan.
Pretty much, they're the only ones that see them as pets instead of food
out of touch fed post
When do you guys think that the Ching Chongs will try to invade Taiwan:
2024, 2028, or 2032?
They wont be ready pre 2030
>but muh 2027
They wont be ready before the 2030s
To be fair:
People thought that Russia wouldn't be ready for years and yet Russia still invaded far sooner than expected.
What makes you think that the Chinamen are any much better?
If nothing else, watching Russia go first and fall flat on their faces is probably going to give them some pause. It unfortunately might actually make them more cautious and thus less likely to do retarded shit like Russia did at the start.
I think china won’t outright invade Taiwan.
They have too much at stake.
Soft power is their best way to go.
But why?
It would be more effective for Taiwan to invest in nukes and minefields.
500 ICBMs in silos and submarines and large sea and minefields around the island and China (nor any other country) could touch Taiwan
*sea and land minefields
Taiwan plans to invade the mainland, and liberate china from the communists.
How are Abrams supposed to be helpful?
They need to have some armor at least. Their current tanks are hilariously old.
Abrams are fuel inefficient and not ideal for mountains either. Taiwan is mostly mountains in the center.
>Abrams are fuel inefficient
Irrelevant with supply lines that short.
>not ideal for mountains either
Because of the weight? It should be able to cross all the bridges it needs to.
>Irrelevant with supply lines that short.
You mean very relevant given that Taiwan is an island without its own hydrocarbon resources. It all has to be shipped.
It is small island country, strategic movement is going to be tiny and thus fuel economy isn't going to matter that much.
And the cities are to the west. If you’re fighting in the mountains it’s already over.
>And the cities are to the west. If you’re fighting in the mountains it’s already over.
Tanks wouldn't effective against PLA ships and aircraft including UAVs anyways.
wouldnt tanks be effective to counter attack the beaches?
If they can make it to the beaches intact they're gonna absolutely fuck up the landing craft.
>liberty?
>democracy?
>nah, authoritarian dictators can do whatever they want as long as we get our chips
Our ancestors would be ashamed
Gtfo commie, this is Kuomintang neighborhood.
Classic ESL reading comprehension.
Can't wait for them to be deployed on the beaches (literal ROCA doctrine) to then be targeted by chink GMLRS from the other side of the strait
Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
Like if the PLA/PLAN have gotten to the point that they are offloading heavy brigades onto the island it's probably game over.
Wouldn't the resources spent on this be better invested into more standoff weapons, air defence, shore defence ect.
You could put a lot of harpoon and hellfire systems around for the same cost.
> Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
Not just yes, but also it would be the best counter. One of the big, glaring weaknesses of light infantry is that, by definition, they have to be pretty light on anti-armor. Or rather, they’re light on persistent anti-armor, since the only things they have access to is what can be carried on Peng’s back. And while you can theoretically airdrop a tank out of an aircraft, it’s a very, very inefficient use of strategic airlift.
nono anon, using strategic heavy cargo lifting planes above the most heavily defended island bristling with modern western AA is VERY good idea
We shall write this strategy down and use it for our 4-day victory parade over Taiwan!
Su-li, grab the flags
you don't need an abrams to overmatch light infantry though that's the point, against a javelin analogue or a loitering munition there is little difference between an M60A1 and an M1A2
Sure.
But the US isn’t producing Abrams. And I don’t think they have any M60’s left in storage.
Wait. I’m retarded.
The US isn’t producing M60’s
Aren't most chinese tanks air mobile?
No
>Is heavy armor really an efficient force to use against marine infantry, paratroopers and helicopter assault forces?
use the abrams as a mobile anti-naval gun battery, it will take care of any retard marine infantry trying amphibious bullshit that's for sure
I have come to the point where I wish China would just shut the hell up and get on with it
I want to see them do the stupidest thing they could ever do and lose, well, everything
I want to see the beaches of Taiwan run red with lies given form
Australia has already proven you can dump 60t behemoths in island cunts.
Pic related, military exercises in the Philippines.
ADF command BTFO anti-MBT lobbyists in the Philippine military establishment, the US Army (who always refused to bring their Abrams in island countries even in Japan) and the USMC (who dumped all of their M1A2s for more Humvees and HIMARS)
Make Formosa Dutch again! Reclaim rightful burgher clay!
taiwan
baltic states
ukraine
those are peak reddit
>I oppose the current thing
Back to Facebook gramps
Reddit is when not contrarian
why arent those going to ukraine?
Why don’t foreigners realize the president doesn’t spend our money but congress does?
im american and the biden regime is the one requeting congress for funding retard
why dont foreigners read their own master's garden gnomeshill propaganda?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/10/politics/ukraine-funding-supplemental-joe-biden/index.html
>asks
Why dont you poos read your own links?
>https://defence-blog.com/taiwan-expects-to-receive-its-first-m1a2t-abrams-tanks-next-year/
hahahaha.. inbfore chinese building own lancet drones capable to sport those tanks by the sound of their engines..