Taiwan

How will a future Chinese invasion of Taiwan go? Who will be the players? Will other countries take kinetic action or just implement sanctions? I think China will be more competent than Russia.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You what-if geopolitical scenario belongs on /misc/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      /k/ is probably less moronic than /misc/.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine, except it's just montages of the Moskva being sunk.

        >Will other countries take kinetic action or just implement sanctions?

        America would unironically face economic ruin since Taiwan is a leading producer of semi-conductors so yes, we would be going to war and yes, Chang's armada will end up like his last one.

        True lol, especially now with the influx of Z Black folk

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      /k/ is probably less moronic than /misc/.

      What if teenage Chinese girls all took a vacation to Taiwan at the same time and slept with taiwanese men because they are so much more masculine and superior to mainland bugmen?

      We should give Taiwan nuclear weapons.

      It will be VERY funny.

      MASSA MASSA! JA GOT JA HAND ON MAH ASS CHEEKS MASSA!

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        A fellow man of taste; I haven't seen a jarjar post in like a decade.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It literally doesn't.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're a fricking moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick ya muddah.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      newbie's first thread.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What if teenage Chinese girls all took a vacation to Taiwan at the same time and slept with taiwanese men because they are so much more masculine and superior to mainland bugmen?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >taiwanese men are so much more masculine
      LOL

      There's a reason ESLosers get laid so much. Taiwanese men have all the social skills of a 12yo, and their wieners are tiny. I have to bring condoms back from the U.S. whenever I go home, because the ones sold locally are too damn small -- and I'm exactly U.S. average in wiener size.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We should give Taiwan nuclear weapons.

    It will be VERY funny.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Its like Ukraine but with ocean, and Charlie dont surf

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Invasion
    Very unlikely to work, amphibious invasions are one of the hardest things a military can do

    >Blockade
    Might work

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      China isn't stopping the rest of the world from trading with Taiwan, that's just asking for every western power to sail better built and staffed warships through the waters to make China look as impotent as it did when a US senator flew to Taiwan.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The French and the Brits can send a couple of ships at most and even that's unlikely, by the world you mean the US.
        >China isn't stopping the rest of the world from trading with Taiwan
        It's funny that you imply that shutting off Taiwan from the world would prompt a huge show of force against China, so in your scenario pausing trade with Taiwan is this huge Cuban missile crisis type scenario with nations out to risk their own skin to solve it, but at the same time, no one would be inclined to standby and just watch instead of doing anything, because interfering would no trade with China?
        >as it did when a US senator flew to Taiwan
        The US didn't even have the balls to sail the strait like it did in the previous Taiwan crisis and Chinese excersises that intruded on Taiwan's waters were brushed under the carpet without any response, leaving Taiwan to fend for itself. Yet in the case of a blockade we would be seeing aircraft carriers in the straits or some shit, not just from the US but from Britain? lol

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They might as well invade Narnia.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    the chinese should forget about taiwan and focus on what they can easily steal from russia

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Look at it this way:
    Russia (up until very recently viewed as the second most powerful military in the world) is currently getting its ass kicked by a backwater Eastern European country that only really started to invest in its military 12-15 years ago. By contrast, the Republic of China (Taiwan) has been preparing for a PRC invasion ever since the KMT retreated there in 1949. They have a massive defense budget, and are constantly developing and being supplied with new and more powerful weapons. It is also significantly harder to attack an island than a country that you share a land border with. The PLA would have a hell of a time even establishing a beachhead, and that is assuming that the USA and other allies don't intervene.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    very lopsided for either side. It depends how resolved the Taiwanese military and government is and if we're willing to escalate into deploying at least a corps sized element to support Taiwan. If not china will inevitably win. China and Russia are similar in equipment and training, however China has vastly more precision guided munitions, and overall production of equipment than Russia. However, the big problem is also if the West closes the Strait of Malacca and if China can create a meaningful pipeline to Russia that mitigates it.

    There's a lot of factors, but idk as it stands with purely china vs taiwan. China by a landslide, they'll take 10 to 1 casualties but their population is 50 times bigger

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >China by a landslide, they'll take 10 to 1 casualties but their population is 50 times bigger
      More like 45, but they're also an average of 4 years younger than Taiwan.

      Taiwanese demographic collapse has been going on far longer than China's, and it's all been voluntary.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      China's military is also as corrupt as Russia's and more prone to lying.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but you don't realize that China has a valid reason for war with Taiwan, has the manufacturing industry to support said war, and has more precision guided missiles than Russia over a smaller operational environment. It is 100% silly to think they'd play out differently. In a 1 on 1 Taiwan is losing, but the world doesnt' work that way. Realistically china will be embargoed as a deterrent and then it'll be a race to see when China's war machine can stop. Conversely we could ramp up to sending support which we'd need to ferry in a corps to support them for a realistic success

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It will go poorly of they go pussyfooting like the Russians did at the start of the invasion. They should go full shock and awe (destroying critical infrastructure like Russia is starting to do right now from day 1 whilst also decapitating the Taiwanese military & civilian leadership) since china has the money to rebuild afterwards

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Shock and awe only really works when you have a land border with the country you are attacking. The ROC is an island, and they also hold other territories closer to the PRC, with the closest being Kinmen Island which is only 10km away from China. They would detect any attack very quickly.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How useful would kinmen be when the radio communications are jammed/destroyed alongside the other critical infrastructure and their C2? Shock and awe isn't about stealth but overwhelming firepower directed at key enemy assets in a short period of time to disable the enemy's capability to react command their troops whilst also creating a humanitarian crisis that the defenders have to deal with (destroying power plants, water) whilst facing a following attack of the aggressors.
        This is nothing new since It has been done by the US and NATO since Desert Storm, but somehow the Russians didn't get the memo and tried to do another "grey area/Crimean style" invasion without causing too much damage on Ukrainian infrastructure whilst leaving Ukrainian C2 intact thinking this would make them surrender more easily and got a bloody nose and humiliated instead.
        In fact the way Russia is now destroying Ukrainian power plants is very inefficient since graphite bombs are much more useful making repairs extremely difficult: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The very blocking of any radio traffic out of Kinmen would be a warning to Taiwan that an invasion is happening. Also consider that everyone in the ROC is on edge right now. They shot down a commercial drone over Kinmen just a week or so ago. An invasion force large enough to attack Taiwan would be detected by intelligence agencies long before the attack actually happened.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why would the PLA only jam Kinmen? The radio jamming would be affecting the entirety of ROCAs chain of command (Saddam's command centers were either destroyed or cut off from communicating with their large army that outnumbered the coalition forces from Desert Storm allowing the latter to do what they wanted and when they wanted). Which is another thing that Russia didn't do with their invasion of Ukraine thinking that if they did that It would be difficult for Ukrainian commanders to order their troops to surrender (they were actually thinking they would be received as liberators after seeing the Taliban take over of Afghanistan last August). Kinmen won't matter at all since PLARF SRBMs and long range GMLRS can already strike the entirety of Taiwan. So what matters in the end of the day is whether the CCP leadership has the guts to do what's necessary to win or they're cucked like the Russian leadership who thought that showing a soft hand would make their enemy surrender without a fight. If the CCP does the latter then their invasion of Taiwan will be a a total disaster which will lead to the destruction of PLAs entire invasion fleets whilst being humiliated international just like Russia

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Destroy infrastructure
      So this means Taiwan can destroy the Three Gorge Dam in retaliation and flood half of China?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's if Taiwan's cruise missiles can bypass PLAs IADS and AWACS flying above. Also since China uses Beidou, do you think they'll let American GPS to work properly to give guidance to Taiwanese missiles once they invade? Beidou is a full replacement of GPS unlike Russian GLONASS or the European Galileo. Who do you think the US Space Force was created to face against? Aliens?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >How will a future Chinese invasion of Taiwan go?
    Rapidly. Taiwanese talk up how they'll fight, but none of them have a clue beyond video game level fighting.

    >Who will be the players?
    China, Taiwan.

    >Will other countries take kinetic action or just implement sanctions?
    Depends on who's in charge in the U.S. Trump would instantly send the military into action to blow up everything China sends. Biden would eventually impose sanctions and send Hunter to negotiate more business deals. Probably demand 20% instead of his usual 10%.

    >I think China will be more competent than Russia.
    I don't think they have the experience for it, and their rock-chucking fights with India are pretty laughable. But they have a million men to throw away on it, and that's even before they start any sort of draft. They can fill the Taiwan Strait with dead bodies and still have men left to invade with.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >But they have a million men to throw away on it, and that's even before they start any sort of draft. They can fill the Taiwan Strait with dead bodies and still have men left to invade with.
      If there's anything that the Ukrainian invasion has proven, it's that numbers don't mean shit without the proper support and logistics for them.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Russia has been suffering from sending too few men for a country the size of Ukraine since Day 1 and has been lacking in numbers for the vast majority of the war if not the whole conflict when we consider the entire picture. Their crutch has been being able to attain localized air superiority again and again and huge advantage in artillery which is why the ukies haven't simply steamrolled them yet. Taiwan doesn't have the numbers, the tech or the equipment to have any sort of edge over China, China would be invading with proper numbers and Taiwan itself is very small compared to Ukraine, the biggest advantage they have going for them is simple geography.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unknown, but China's capability is superior to Russian for sure.

    >Air Power
    China has like 150+ delivered J-20s while Russians barely have 16, of which 10 are just test articles. Chinese engine WS-15 seems similar to the latest Russian engines as well now, since they've reveresed engineer the Russian/French/German/American/Dutch engines in the past, they probably have learned some tricks. J-16s multirole are also in the 200+ atleast as well.
    >Missiles
    Russia people has an advantage here, but the capabilities are similar enough with China adopting more tech/advanced missiles vs Russians adopting more dumb rockets.
    >Air Defenses
    Probably similar too.
    >Naval
    China has lot more naval capability and growing rapidly, most of them are modernized.

    The biggest difference between Ukraine and Taiwan is Island vs land gives Taiwan a very advantageous defensive position. As long as they can shoot down Chinese aircrafts, drones, ships, subs and missiles.

    The problem is Taiwan lacks the air defenses that Ukraine has. Taiwan needs lot of rapid firing air defenses too because China can missile spam just like Russia to a smaller extent.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, a Type 03. You don't see those everyday. Also love how the Chinese just straight up ripped off the M9 bayonet.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Almost all of their gear is rip offs of Russian or American equipment.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Like how the US ripped off everything British and French until it established itself as numbah one? Curious.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Taiwan's military and defenses are a joke. Good thing for them, though, that the PLA is thoroughly corrupt and can only do parades and propaganda exercises. If China takes over the island it'll be through soft power.

    Ultimately the reason why the US stopped running a base there is because it wasn't actually needed. Even if something, somehow, does kick off the 7th Fleet is right across the street. Normally I'd be more critical of a country like Taiwan having such a bad military but in this specific case I can't really hate on them as they're not in serious danger to begin with.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you repost the same thread every day. Why do you never come up with any better excuse to samegay and spam cope post about China. Why dont you bugmen get a real job? Why do Amerimutt shills do this?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >I think China will be more competent than Russia.
    I doubt it.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >How will a future Chinese invasion of Taiwan go?
    To the bottom of the pacific with all hands

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there's only two beaches where the chinese can land
    the island is a natural fortress

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    China has been imminently about to commence am occasion if Taiwan for 70 years.
    I'm sure they can chicken out of it for 70 more.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      *An invasion of
      Holy frick I mangled that

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's a reason the ROC has not fallen. Good luck Chang

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