tactical advantage?

Yes 4chan has become a massive echo chamber

Not that guy but 4chan is split on the issue of Ukraine.
The main problem with 4chan is the rampant schizophrenia and mental illness which along with very low IQ causes the board to be unusable.
The board that is an echo chamber with reddit like moderation is PrepHole.

Again the fact that stating the obvious or putting down your Ukraine cheerleader pom poms make you "pro Russian" is an indictment of how much of an echo chamber this board is.

Like Ukraine being occupied?
This always causes a melt down.

Apparently it's a controversial statement around here.

can you post a tbh link to one of these meltdowns?

pic related is an example

Or even a trend for that matter

I accept your concession, you made the statement, if you can’t back it up then don’t bother.

>Nobody reconstructions are real dumbass
ESL moment

samefag and massive koper

you're the one desperate for internet wins. probably because your country is fucked in real life.

can you post a tbh link to one of these meltdowns?

Anon it proved jack shit

So you got shit on in every other part of the conversation so now your trying to eek out one win? Kek

So there’s two idiots, cool, but we’re just gonna keep on replying anyway, gotta get tg

I'm not saying we shouldn't cheer Ukraine, but there's no reason not to be objective about it.
Ukraine is hardly in an enviable position, is still the weak party and the gloating is truly out of place.

>Who’s gloating?
It's either your first hour on this board or so caught up in the gloating you don't even notice.
>All I’ve seen in pro Russians constantly gloating
I don't concern myself with the thoughts of simians and you should too.
>You continue to act like there’s two similes
Never did that.
I'm just able to accept the world is an unfair unjust piece of shit without having to cope relentlessly about it.

I replied to your post denying there being any gloating here.
What's so hard to understand?

>'m just able to accept the world is an unfair unjust piece of shit without having to cope relentlessly about it.
Coping about what? Yes Ukraine isn’t bulldozing Russia, no ones stupid enough to think that, yes Ukraine needs support, that’s been obvious since day one. I’m absolutely confused as to what point you’re even attempting to make here.

> no ones stupid enough to think that
You'd be surprised.
The point is that if you cut down the gloating and stop obsessing over obvious trolls the quality of the discussion would improve significantly.
But I'm afraid most people that come to this board don't really wanna talk about the war and come here to find comfort that the world isn't too bad and there's always a silver lining or cope in internet lingo

>“both sides are the problem”
Absolutely no pro Ukraine shilling and coping is the problem, they make discussing the war beyond obvious facts like Ukraine=good Russia=piece of shit that should be flattened into radioactive ashes, nearly impossible, as I stated before I don't concern myself with the thoughts of simians and you should too.

>quality of the discussion
First: No. It would not. Because vatmorons.

Second: vatmorons on Ukrainian clay get mulched into fertilizer. They have the option of leaving immediately if they aren't comfortable being fertilizer.

No further "discussion" will take place until that happens: evry single vatmoron is either gone or fertilizer. there are no other options available.

Right now we are working on the mulching & fertilizing portion of this clownshow. Once this phase is complete then:

1) All Ukrainians that have been abducted will be accounted for and returned to Ukraine. Immediately and without delay.

2) vatmoronstan pays for all of the damages. Every fucking penny. Non-negotiable.

3) vatmoronstan de-occupies all territory stolen by the USSR; it was never USSR clay, and vatmoronstan doesn't get to "inherit" the stolen clay of the failed Soviet state. (hint: picrel, 1914)

There isn't anything to discuss. vatmoronstan will obey or cease to exist.

>steal its natural resources
I doubt the natural resources were that big a selling point. Most realistic reason for the invasion was to secure the Dnipro river as a natural barrier, because other than that, the western area of Russia has very few natural features that could be used to fend off an invasion from the west. Putin may have thought this was his last change to secure a stronger border in the case that Ukraine ended up joining NATO.

Right didn't know about the natural gas potential of Ukraine, that's also a reason for Russia to invade.

Interestingly enough, I took a look at the Russo-Georgian war from 2008 and what the outcome of the conflict was. South Ossetia, and Abkhazia are currently occupied by Russian forces, although not officially recognized by the rest of the world as Russian territories.
Point being that south Ossetia is an area in which two roads pass through the mountains into southern Russia, Abkhazia has a coastal road into southern Russia. The two entry points from the south other than Azerbaijan are now under guard by Russia, so there is the potential for Russia to continue invading into the caucuses for whatever reason.
Azerbaijan has fairly friendly relations with Russia at the moment but who knows if they'll be the next target if Putin truly is trying to secure Russia's borders.

I'd be watching my back too if I bordered Russia. Kazakhstan might be next on the hit list as well, although there's been no talk from them in regards to joining NATO.

Even yesterday anons were arguing that Cuba and Venezuela are more relevant than Russia and that Europe totally isn't drawn to Russia resources and that decades down the line Europe would procure its resources from all around the world rather the gas station next door.
People's hate boner for Russia just doesn't let them think clearly.

the exchange the vatnik is referring to was him whinging about how russia is irreplaceable.
It was pointed out that outside of the gas, they don't provide a hell of a lot that the other three countries provide, or could be sourced elsewhere. He left out the third because it made his straw man look worse.
tl;dr he's being a dishonest pussy because he'd rather suck ruskie dick

>Gas

>me win u lose
glad we understand russmoron
>Whatever you're a baby
you're as tattered as your military over this lmao!
>Nobody even said that.
You did , vatnik pussy, but you thought we'd forget you baby tirade. No honey, the world will spin better without you.

>Ukraine is hardly in an enviable position, is still the weak party and the gloating is truly out of place.
The gloating is from the world who is collectively sick of Russia's shit and is glad to see it die. I don't think any "world power" has ever thoroughly embarrassed themselves on the world stage like this while also removing their status as a world player quite like this.

>'m just able to accept the world is an unfair unjust piece of shit without having to cope relentlessly about it.
Coping about what? Yes Ukraine isn’t bulldozing Russia, no ones stupid enough to think that, yes Ukraine needs support, that’s been obvious since day one. I’m absolutely confused as to what point you’re even attempting to make here.

>Coping about what? Yes Ukraine isn’t bulldozing Russia, no ones stupid enough to think that
How are they not? Sure Ukraine's not in a great spot, but they also managed to destroy almost all of Russia's military might, sans conscripts.
That's fucking insane, no tanks, jets, or boats, all their special ops and trained soldiers destroyed, no way to reproduce lost assets, reduced to drafting fleeing ruskies who then get thrown into irradiated trenches.

I was of the thought Russia might have a semi competent military before the war, and thought their nuclear threats held water before this debacle. I expected them to roll Ukraine with their early war gains, but with a few dozen HIMARS, the ukies were able to completely repel and take back much of the lost land, and drive Rusia into a money losing stalemate.

>They aren’t bulldozing through their defensive lines* sorry needed to be more specific I guess.
Yeah, that makes sense, but I don't think they need to with how badly they've crippled the kremlin. So what if they have donbasa, might as well be their tomb, let them hold it, constantly attack it, reduce their forces to dust. Russia can't do shit to them with their current fortified positions.
If I were them, I'd just keep the lines as is and keep liquidating their human wave bullshit till Putin copped a coronary.

>Well that’s certainly what NATO wants to happen, I imagine Ukraine probably just wants it over, though there’s definitely a revenge element to this by now
That's the thing though, Ukraine might want it over, but it'll never be over as long as Russia is alive. They've pulled this shit what, three times in the last 20 years? How many people died? Fuck that, just keep dry fucking the ruskies till they cease to exist.
This is the only way they'll ever be over with the war. If those natural gas and oil stores they recently found really are that lucrative, maybe they could take some of the profits from that and fortify themselves for future generations.

Anon you do realize that rebuilding Ukraine would make the west trillions right? They’d get another ally, a bread basket AND a friendly source of gas and oil, it’s literally all positive, especially considering the US would want a moral victory like that after Afghanistan

Probably, the US alone spent trillions in the Middle East, now that there’s proof they WANT to defend themselves, all the better

>You don't understand how the economy works. A job for the sake of being a job doesn't mean anything. Who's going to pay for all of this, reconstructing after a war is a cost not a profit

You're absolutely wrong about how the economy works.

Everything Russia has to offer can be provided by Ukraine after they btfo of the invaders.

>destined
Now who’s being retarded

>Yes, of course.
Ukraine had a dying population before the invasion how the fuck are they going to be anything other than a German car colony

And again why would Ukrainians want to come back to their country if they are already in Europe

No I don’t? And why are you suddenly saying Poland and the EU are? No they aren’t?

>if I say what’s happening in Russia, I win
Kek

>large number of those young people who left are being trained as soldiers in Europe
Sure

He's probably sexually frustrated because no woman wants to be near him.

You're PrepHoleoping in this very post by make believing I'm Russian, when chances are my country is far superior than yours.

You don't need to be Russian to be a vatnig. The fact you're cheering on the invasion of an independent country is fucking disgusting

>He actually fucking believes that ukraine women are trad and will have children
[...]
What kinda retard for fight for a garden gnome lmfao
[...]
Brain drain doesnt exist?

>What kinda retard for fight for a garden gnome lmfao
>for fight for a
>retard

Indian calling the tea making utensil a moron

>Ukraine had a dying population before the invasion how the fuck are they going to be anything other than a German car colony
you got btfo with this last thread sputnik, baby booms after a war, and it'll be BOOMIN when russia's finally dead!

>garden gnome
And the mask slips
Kek

>Yeah I'm gnomish, so?
Shalom!

[...]
>it's a buckbroken black pilled incxel tankie spamming pro russian spunk because he's so dumb he thinks Ukranians are garden gnomes
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH what a fucking LOSER! Fuck off and stay fucked off until you research what the bolsheviks are and grow some chest hair you massive pussy!

>black pilled incxel tankie
>Literally contradictory ideology's

Did I finally break the shills lmao

>I live in America
[...]

>Yeah I'm gnomish, so?
Shalom!
[...]
>black pilled incxel tankie
>Literally contradictory ideology's

Did I finally break the shills lmao

>blackpiulled incel spergs out further, and still can't prove he lives in America
EL EM AY OH
get fucked kid, I look forward to seeing you smeared across a Ukraine APC, remember to think of my glorious American ass laughing at you from my property!

>Cant respond to anything am saying
>Hes a jeet
>No a commie
>no an incel
Holy shit who knew how buckbroken shill are, I guess blackrock is not paying you enough kek

>nobody said that you blackpilled incel failure lol. you don't need to be trad to have kids, guess a fathreless fuckup like you wouldn't know!
You they do you dumb moron also the "muh incel" shit was funny because ukraine is fucked as is tell me how they are going to revover 10mill people plus the 100k dead?
>Russia has brain drain
Its actually a lot of students in Ukraine and Belarus end up going to big university's in Moscow

That hit hard eh?

>nobody said that you blackpilled incel failure lol. you don't need to be trad to have kids, guess a fathreless fuckup like you wouldn't know!
You they do you dumb moron also the "muh incel" shit was funny because ukraine is fucked as is tell me how they are going to revover 10mill people plus the 100k dead?
>Russia has brain drain
Its actually a lot of students in Ukraine and Belarus end up going to big university's in Moscow

>The majority will return when it's safe to do so
Why in gods name would they ever retrun

Like holy shit use your brain poland has like double the gdp of ukraine and so does most of the eu

>patriotism
You sound like a true mutt nobody cares about their country's to willing put themselves in a worse position

Do you really think the arabs from 2016 are going back to Syria

>You they do you dumb moron also the "muh incel" shit was funny
AHAHAHAHA you ARE one of those dumb blackpilled incel tankies! fuckin LOSER
>because ukraine is fucked as is tell me how they are going to revover 10mill people plus the 100k dead?
They are being trained to fuck your precious bolshevik bitches as we speak, the ones that arne't will return once the vatniks are dead. It's like you think all of us are as dumb and impressionable as you that we haven't picked up a history book and seen how wars unfold, pathetic!
>Its actually a lot of students in Ukraine and Belarus end up going to big university's in Moscow
no they don't spunknik, you've got no source for this, I however have a source of all of the Russian military getting assfucked to death by a bunch of highmars!
100k casualties in ukrained, it's what, 5 times that in Russia and still climbing? Bunch of fucking losers you are!

>They are being trained
What kinda cope is this they are off working in germen factory's nobody in their right mind is going to Europe to "train"
>SOURCE
Look it up you will find it

Can u stop the cope? It's embarrassing for the rest of us.

>rest of us

It's just you

[...]
unironically yes. I'm not even a russia-boo, I'm being realistic. How else are they going to rebuild their country, they will have to take loans out from the IMF. The west isn't so altruistic that it'll shell out for reconstruction, not without some massive concessions from Ukraine.
Right now all the weaponry and machinery the US is supplying is under a lend lease program which will either have to be repayed or the gear returned.

That's how lend lease works, yes.

Ukraine has a vast amount of natural resources which will be exported. These are resources the west currently imports from Russia. Do you get it yet mother fucker

>Ukraine has a vast amount of natural resources which will be exported
It's not that vast and the infrastructure doesn't exist. You're a retard.

>after what happened russia is unironically destined to be a shithole
ftfy

>larger population
Yeah thats why india is a superpower lmfao

Yeah and Ukraine has the lowest iq in Europe next to Albania

The majority are Ukrainians and Russia has the highest iq in Asia next to japan

Tbh the only thing keeping Ukraine above Albania is Russians kek

retard

they've got to be above serbia

The majority are Ukrainians and Russia has the highest iq in Asia next to japan

Tbh the only thing keeping Ukraine above Albania is Russians kek

>and Russia has the highest iq in Asia next to japan
?? lol

Ukraine had a population of 44 million in January 2022. About 5 million left during the first three to four months of the invasion. Mostly, it was a huge effort to secure the safety of the most vulnerable women, children, and elderly. Almost immediately, most of the men returned. After that, a large percentage of the women returned. In total, about 50% of the Ukrainians who left in the first half of 2022 have returned to Ukraine by the end of 2022.

That's about 41 to 42 million Ukrainians currently living in Ukraine, with most of the war refugees waiting until it's safe to return. Between 91% and 95% of Ukrainians live in Ukraine right now. They have one driving purpose: kill vatniks, purge Ukrainian clay of the vatnik cancer.

You are delusional if you don't think almost all of Ukraine currently lives in Ukraine. Currently, there are between 6 million and 8 million Ukrainians who are displaced internally .. .because they refuse to leave even though the entire EU has offered to house them and help them for free. they would rather live and fight in their own country than accept free food and housing somewhere else.

> tl;dr -- vatmoronstan is fucked

> * incoherent poojeeting intensifies *

Nta but pretty much yes. The amount of jobs the rebuilding will create for Ukrainians and westerners will be a huge boom for our economies

Lol no

>pro Russians once again failing to understand anything other than slave/serf mentality

Who are you quoting sperg?
>impotent hoooping
That's about what can be expected from you.

You probably forgot that Ukraine is occupied and civilians hundreds of km from the frontline are getting bombed despite being furious

Being mad is not a superpower, also I'm not Russian you sperg.

>thinking Israel are the good guys
Kek

>implying your brain isn't occupied territory

10/10

Maybe if you could make a 5×5 grid you'd actually be able to hit things.

Can you make a 5×5 grid Anon?

not the 9 Donetsks!!!!

you're not a mutt but desperately trying to pass as one (fat fucking chance with that broen english) in every thread. it's embarrassing

>deflects

enough about your fetishes

>I live in America

post passport