Look at where the fume extractor is on the barrel. Turret shape is a little harder to gauge under the BDD applique, but I'm confident that is a T55AM.
Not a big deal if you ask me. It's only marginally shittier than the T62M.
they at best had 5k workable tanks before the war, and by workable i mean they might run. Russia had a tiny fraction of that number operational when the war actually broke out.
>Didn't they have like a thousand mothballed T-80, T-72 and even T-90s in quite modern versions?
Theory is the t-72s all got sold or heavily stripped for parts, t-72 is still good enough to sell to 3rd world nations. Meanwhile no one wants t-62s so they sat there untouched.
Saddam, Assad and a bunch of African dictators got loads of tanks.
Even the battle in Ethiopia this year had Russian tanks appearing out of nowhere.
So much stuff has been sold and more tanks have been raided for selling spare parts while still on the books.
I remember guys in the 90s selling so much Russian equipment to African nations for spare change.
I remember tanks engines sold as large truck engines.
And since than they have been selling spares everywhere off the books.
Please remember that in the first or second month of this war one of the generals in charge of maintaining the old arsenals was "suicided" likely for very good reasons. But the real culprits are likely drinking champagne in the Bahamas since 10 years ago.
A former Russian big shot was running a casino resort on a tropical Cambodia and drowning in pussy, money and wine every day.
>Why are the pants always down
that's how they pray: one pulls down his pants and hold an icon and the other one kisses it repeatedly. it's traditional
At 1000m it looks like it has just enough to pen a T72 without ERA with a good shot and not enough to kill a T80 for the most part even without ERA. Never mind western tanks.
I'd personally avoid deploying them in combat where tank on tank is likely. A T55 and a T72 vs a modern ATGM are equally fricked
T-55 was never rated for any ATGM, and could be defeated frontally with handheld rockets like the LAW
T-72A was at least rated for the ITOW and the T-72B was rated against the TOW-2
and even in a penetration, thicker armor does reduce post-pen effect
so the thicker LoS caused by the NERA and textolite will sap the velocity of the metal jet a lot more than plain steel of a T-55
Evenly spaced roadwheels says t-62, but tbh it's no more embarrassing to say t-62 over t-55 when we're talking about a tank from the fricking 1960s being used on the frontline.
Chinese t-55s are still in use in many countries. See the t-59 Durjoy, which are kept in working order. But I doubt the Russian tanks get the same level of care.
Do they even have the ammo for these things? Everyone runs around with 120mm guns now so I assume that the older tanks would have some dated limited ammo. Considering how badly the older tanks themselves were treated in storage I wouldn't trust those rounds as they're probably chemically unstable
Soviet ammo is pretty reliable. Unlike a machine that will need periodic running and repair you can just hermetically seal ammo and stash it away until the end of time. Once upon a time when you could buy Russian surplus you could get sealed cans of ammo from the 50’s and 60’s (I’ve seen one from the late 40’s) that worked just fine. While tank ammo is obviously a bit more complicated, the same basic priniciple still applies.
Only issue I'd be worried about is the explosive filler in HE shells getting old. The propellant is probably fine but old explosives aren't something to frick with.
all the real T-34s were scrapped when the Soviets no longer needed them.
All the remaining T-34s you see that are underperforming in Ukraine are plants seeded into armories by western intelligence agencies.
>all the real T-34s were scrapped when the Soviets no longer needed them.
This is genuinely true, the T-34s they use as ww2 relics in parades were purchased back from Laos or somewhere
The thing is, Laos was actually using them in a military capacity.
Now, you can never underestimate a Russian's ability to frick up materiel, but they've only had those t34s for a couple of years, and demilling is expensive. I suspect that at least some of them still drive even if they haven't been maintained since Russia got them.
>all the real T-34s were scrapped when the Soviets no longer needed them.
This is genuinely true, the T-34s they use as ww2 relics in parades were purchased back from Laos or somewhere
Actually, a handful of them are original WW2-era T-34s who were used in the fighting, but those were all restorations from hulks dragged out of bogs.
The bulk of the wartime tanks had such shit quality control that maintaining them meant in essence rebuilding them from scratch entirely.
russians sold off their T-55s and T-34s pretty much as fast as they could
the only reason they still have T-62s in their armory at all is because nobody wanted to buy them
for a slight increase in firepower and armor, you had to buy into an entirely new vehicle over the T-55, and 100mm APFSDS meant T-55s closed the firepower gap very well
so only a few countries like egypt and iraq really wanted the T-62s, since they wanted every advantage they could get over the israelis
russians are probably secretly glad they sold those things off
so it means no one has to actually try and fight a modern ATGM with a mere 300mm of steel armor and maybe some ERA if they were lucky enough to get the modernized versions
>don't see a problem here >barely moves >cant see anything to shoot at
thats a big problem there
without thermal sights, you need to rely on the mk1 eyeball, which means getting up close and personal with what you want to shoot
but with armor only rated for the M72 LAW, getting close is a bad idea as the enemy can now easily hit you on the return fire
it is incredibly difficult to tell bait from actual vatniks these days
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Actually, a handful of them are original WW2-era T-34s who were used in the fighting, but those were all restorations from hulks dragged out of bogs.
The bulk of the wartime tanks had such shit quality control that maintaining them meant in essence rebuilding them from scratch entirely.
post war T-34-85s made under license were made to higher standards too
and have a lot less abuse in the engine too
It's a T-62. Russia scraped their T-55. Still Lmao
Look at where the fume extractor is on the barrel. Turret shape is a little harder to gauge under the BDD applique, but I'm confident that is a T55AM.
Not a big deal if you ask me. It's only marginally shittier than the T62M.
Nah bro, look at the roadwheel spacing, no gap between the 2 front wheels.
I refuse to believe it.
Didn't they have like a thousand mothballed T-80, T-72 and even T-90s in quite modern versions?
On paper. The construction money went elsewhere apparently.
Mothballed is a bold word.
they at best had 5k workable tanks before the war, and by workable i mean they might run. Russia had a tiny fraction of that number operational when the war actually broke out.
Yes but Russia has not produced much for decades and whatever is in storage has been heavily cannibalized
>motheaten
ftfy
>Didn't they have like a thousand mothballed T-80, T-72 and even T-90s in quite modern versions?
Theory is the t-72s all got sold or heavily stripped for parts, t-72 is still good enough to sell to 3rd world nations. Meanwhile no one wants t-62s so they sat there untouched.
Saddam, Assad and a bunch of African dictators got loads of tanks.
Even the battle in Ethiopia this year had Russian tanks appearing out of nowhere.
So much stuff has been sold and more tanks have been raided for selling spare parts while still on the books.
I remember guys in the 90s selling so much Russian equipment to African nations for spare change.
I remember tanks engines sold as large truck engines.
And since than they have been selling spares everywhere off the books.
Please remember that in the first or second month of this war one of the generals in charge of maintaining the old arsenals was "suicided" likely for very good reasons. But the real culprits are likely drinking champagne in the Bahamas since 10 years ago.
A former Russian big shot was running a casino resort on a tropical Cambodia and drowning in pussy, money and wine every day.
Why are the pants always down? I thought Russia getting butt fricked was only metaphorical?
>Why are the pants always down
that's how they pray: one pulls down his pants and hold an icon and the other one kisses it repeatedly. it's traditional
happens when you get blown up
Russians don't use western underwear. They use butt wraps. They are easier to dry and they are warmer in the snow.
100mm HE is pretty potent.
Modern kinetic 100mm will frick up anything at 1000-1500m
https://www.armscom.net/products/100mm_tk_apfsds_t_m1000a1
At 1000m it looks like it has just enough to pen a T72 without ERA with a good shot and not enough to kill a T80 for the most part even without ERA. Never mind western tanks.
I'd personally avoid deploying them in combat where tank on tank is likely. A T55 and a T72 vs a modern ATGM are equally fricked
T-55 was never rated for any ATGM, and could be defeated frontally with handheld rockets like the LAW
T-72A was at least rated for the ITOW and the T-72B was rated against the TOW-2
and even in a penetration, thicker armor does reduce post-pen effect
so the thicker LoS caused by the NERA and textolite will sap the velocity of the metal jet a lot more than plain steel of a T-55
Evenly spaced roadwheels says t-62, but tbh it's no more embarrassing to say t-62 over t-55 when we're talking about a tank from the fricking 1960s being used on the frontline.
T-62s are basically T-55s with upgrades guns and a small amount of improved armor anyways
The T-55M's upgrades are also very similar to the T-62M's. Both are from around 1983 I think.
"The tank is fine, get in comrade"
"Da comrade, but why welding torch comrade?"
Save this for the next inevitable
>RUSSIANS USING T-55!
thread.
These have been too common lately.
Chinese t-55s are still in use in many countries. See the t-59 Durjoy, which are kept in working order. But I doubt the Russian tanks get the same level of care.
Romania still operates a highly modernized t55 also.
that doesn’t look highly modernized
It's not really a T-55 even if it's performance is similar to one but with more armor.
The running gear and engine are illegal copies of Leopard 1
Do they even have the ammo for these things? Everyone runs around with 120mm guns now so I assume that the older tanks would have some dated limited ammo. Considering how badly the older tanks themselves were treated in storage I wouldn't trust those rounds as they're probably chemically unstable
Soviet ammo is pretty reliable. Unlike a machine that will need periodic running and repair you can just hermetically seal ammo and stash it away until the end of time. Once upon a time when you could buy Russian surplus you could get sealed cans of ammo from the 50’s and 60’s (I’ve seen one from the late 40’s) that worked just fine. While tank ammo is obviously a bit more complicated, the same basic priniciple still applies.
Old ammo is overgased because of chemical processes and can blow up the barrel
Only issue I'd be worried about is the explosive filler in HE shells getting old. The propellant is probably fine but old explosives aren't something to frick with.
all the real T-34s were scrapped when the Soviets no longer needed them.
All the remaining T-34s you see that are underperforming in Ukraine are plants seeded into armories by western intelligence agencies.
>all the real T-34s were scrapped when the Soviets no longer needed them.
This is genuinely true, the T-34s they use as ww2 relics in parades were purchased back from Laos or somewhere
The thing is, Laos was actually using them in a military capacity.
Now, you can never underestimate a Russian's ability to frick up materiel, but they've only had those t34s for a couple of years, and demilling is expensive. I suspect that at least some of them still drive even if they haven't been maintained since Russia got them.
Actually, a handful of them are original WW2-era T-34s who were used in the fighting, but those were all restorations from hulks dragged out of bogs.
The bulk of the wartime tanks had such shit quality control that maintaining them meant in essence rebuilding them from scratch entirely.
You know, apparently they called those add-on armour plates on the turret 'Brezhnev's Eyebrows'.
russians sold off their T-55s and T-34s pretty much as fast as they could
the only reason they still have T-62s in their armory at all is because nobody wanted to buy them
for a slight increase in firepower and armor, you had to buy into an entirely new vehicle over the T-55, and 100mm APFSDS meant T-55s closed the firepower gap very well
so only a few countries like egypt and iraq really wanted the T-62s, since they wanted every advantage they could get over the israelis
russians are probably secretly glad they sold those things off
so it means no one has to actually try and fight a modern ATGM with a mere 300mm of steel armor and maybe some ERA if they were lucky enough to get the modernized versions
thats a T-62M, you can tell by the angular armor in front of the turret
come on dude, work on your vehicle id
They had to import T34-85s from Laos for a parade. I really doubt they have any more of them than what you see at parades on Red Square
>it moves
>it shoots
don't see a problem here
>don't see a problem here
>barely moves
>cant see anything to shoot at
thats a big problem there
without thermal sights, you need to rely on the mk1 eyeball, which means getting up close and personal with what you want to shoot
but with armor only rated for the M72 LAW, getting close is a bad idea as the enemy can now easily hit you on the return fire
Look like losing them without regret is the only tactical advantage
Its tank.
Even old tank better than shitty HATO tanks.
Tik tok piggies.
it is incredibly difficult to tell bait from actual vatniks these days
post war T-34-85s made under license were made to higher standards too
and have a lot less abuse in the engine too