No. That came with the T-55. And even that was a very rudimentary gun-stab. More like "the target stays somewhat in the gunner's field of view while moving, so he can faster lay the crosshair on it when the tank stops to fire".
And how is it bad exactly? It's a demonstration of Russian resourcefulness if anything >Hahahaha Russia is so pathetic because it's using military resources in clever ways loooooool
If I was forced to travel everywhere I went using a razor scooter because I crashed all of my previous ten cars in the last year in preventable accidents because I was drunk or reckless, you would not call me "resourceful", you would probably use other adjectives.
Shills say >Wow, how resourceful
None of them ask >Where'd all the other tanks go?
>what about cope cage
You had cope cage. >we had one cope cage, yes >but what about second cope cage?
In all seriousness, this is retarded. If you want to protect against drone drops, one will do the job.
If you want to protect against javelins you already failed.
>Those don't go 2 meters down
Unclassified data claims that, thanks to high precision machining, "modern" shaped charges can retain more than 90% of their penetration capabilities after 6 feet of standoff.
>UKRAINE IS A QUAGMIRE >YET TO DRAIN >FRENCH TANK DESTROYERS >SENT SERGEI UP IN FLAMES >ANDRUSHKA CALLED OUT >IN LOTS OF PAAAAAAIN >DELAYED RESERVISTS >AREN'T EVEN IN THE GAME
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T >THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T >DO MUCH FOR A DRONE >I MUST GOOOOOOO
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>I FEEL NAKED >NOTHING BUT A MOBIK, NO >BUT DID THEY FAKE IT >THE PROTECTION RATIO >AND WHAT DO YOU WANT? >I WANT A PASSAGE HOME >AND WHAT DO YOU GOT? >OH BLYAT IS THAT A DRONE?
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T >THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T >DO MUCH FOR A DRONE >BAKHMUT HOOOOOO!
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE >SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE >DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>TELL ME THERE IS ONLY ONE >TELL ME THERE'S NO OTHER ONE >JAVELINS NLAWS STORM SHADOW >LEOPARDS LOADING SABOT
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED >AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
Weren't these things designed to be manned by midgets? considering how people are much taller today than they were back in 50 & 60, I can only imagine how cramped they must feel for the average mobik
Obr. = obrazets = issue or make = year-specific variation
Obj. = object = production or design code of an experimental or non-serial vehicle or whatever
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
this was honestly the biggest assfucking since WW2, have we ever seen a bigger humiliation than 67? friendly reminder that israel expanded its size x3 by the end of the war that the arabs started lmfao
they also killed at least 25k shitskins in that time lmao
daily reminder that making your arty fly is 10000x better than having shit ton of mass produced armor staffed by monkeybrains
>Soviet note
You fucking telling me even in the 1960s the soviets communicated to each other in the Ministry of Defense in edgy commie political speeches in their actual official documents? Jesus...
Also source for the note I want to read more of it.
If in February 2022 you'd told me that T-54 Obr. 2023 would be a real thing I'd have laughed at you and yet here we are. I'm almost ready to wholeheartedly embrace Girkin's sarcastic doomposting as being a reliable vision of the future and am ready to witness the one working T-34 left in Russia going into battle, only to be immediately popped by an AT missile that probably cost several times more than it did when brand new.
I love him so much bros, I don't want to see him get windowed or spend the rest of his life in a cell in the Hague. He should just call up his old buddies, go full Outer Heaven and liveblog the whole thing. Go out in a blaze of glory.
I DO want Girkin to face justice for his role in the Second Chechen War, the Moscow apartment bombings, the MH-17 shootdown, etc. but I also want to shake his hand and tell him he's a magnificent bastard. Then I'd tell him he deserves this (I'm his executioner btw).
If I had to convert a T-54 into something that might do something useful on a battlefield it was never designed in, I would first weld the turret in place, I would then cover the turret and hull glacis in cement or concrete, effectively converting it into an armored casemate. I would remove the turret floor to increase space within the new casemate. I would have it assigned as an assault gun after redesignating it the T-54 obr.2023 (SU-100P). I would Stugmaxx
Problem with that is assault guns/casemate tanks were able to still traverse their guns (albeit within a limited arc) but youd have no such luck if starting from a turreted tank like the T-55.
>a T-54 into something that might do something useful on a battlefield it was never designed in,
Field reclamation vehicle only. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
The lower "cage" is obviously not a cage, but a sniper's perch from where he can comfortably pick off AT infantry. This is well known in the right circles and become a nasty surprise for our esteemed Western partners in due time.
I managed to get the armorer to give me 3 M72 LAWs when I went to get grenades for my team last week. Is that piece of shit old enough for a LAW to actually fuck it up?
In a strange way I'm kind of worried. Inflation is going crazy everything's cost so much now went to the grocery store and it was crazy. And the Russians are fighting this war cheaper and cheaper. Starting to understandthe Germans Felt in world war II. No matter how many killed they keep coming back cheaper and ragged. At this point they might as well start using hi points and cheap Chinese sneakers. They truly are goblins
Is the main gun even stabilized?
No. That came with the T-55. And even that was a very rudimentary gun-stab. More like "the target stays somewhat in the gunner's field of view while moving, so he can faster lay the crosshair on it when the tank stops to fire".
is that a cope cage for a cope cage lmao
And how is it bad exactly? It's a demonstration of Russian resourcefulness if anything
>Hahahaha Russia is so pathetic because it's using military resources in clever ways loooooool
If it is one resource they have in abundance, it is copium that’s for sure.
Anon do you honestly believe itll be effective in combat even as an arty piece?
Bro, the Soviets were taking these out of service 50 years
If I was forced to travel everywhere I went using a razor scooter because I crashed all of my previous ten cars in the last year in preventable accidents because I was drunk or reckless, you would not call me "resourceful", you would probably use other adjectives.
Shills say
>Wow, how resourceful
None of them ask
>Where'd all the other tanks go?
China the video
>what about cope cage
You had cope cage.
>we had one cope cage, yes
>but what about second cope cage?
In all seriousness, this is retarded. If you want to protect against drone drops, one will do the job.
If you want to protect against javelins you already failed.
Doesn't it protect simply by the distance? Javelin is still a HEAT penetrator, right? Those don't go 2 meters down
Warhead fuses have progressed since ww2.
>Those don't go 2 meters down
Unclassified data claims that, thanks to high precision machining, "modern" shaped charges can retain more than 90% of their penetration capabilities after 6 feet of standoff.
That's bullshit. Physics nerf when?
Is that just a weird angle of the photo or it that a mod. 1949 turret?
Nah the barrel is different than 1949 variant
>double cope cage
lmao
>Cope cage not working, wat do?
>Javelin have two warheads, go right through cage
>Then put second cage on!
>*spits vodka* BRILLIANT!
>UKRAINE IS A QUAGMIRE
>YET TO DRAIN
>FRENCH TANK DESTROYERS
>SENT SERGEI UP IN FLAMES
>ANDRUSHKA CALLED OUT
>IN LOTS OF PAAAAAAIN
>DELAYED RESERVISTS
>AREN'T EVEN IN THE GAME
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T
>THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T
>DO MUCH FOR A DRONE
>I MUST GOOOOOOO
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>I FEEL NAKED
>NOTHING BUT A MOBIK, NO
>BUT DID THEY FAKE IT
>THE PROTECTION RATIO
>AND WHAT DO YOU WANT?
>I WANT A PASSAGE HOME
>AND WHAT DO YOU GOT?
>OH BLYAT IS THAT A DRONE?
>EVEN THOUGH I DON'T
>THINK A MESH SCREEN WON'T
>DO MUCH FOR A DRONE
>BAKHMUT HOOOOOO!
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>SOMEONE MAY SAY NLAWS WON'T PENETRATE
>DESPITE ALL THE CAGE I AM STILL IN JAVELIN RANGE
>TELL ME THERE IS ONLY ONE
>TELL ME THERE'S NO OTHER ONE
>JAVELINS NLAWS STORM SHADOW
>LEOPARDS LOADING SABOT
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED
>Battleship Fuso except it's a pagoda made of cope cages
>2 caged 2 cope
Just think, the poor cunt that's going to step inside that as a loader, probably has a grandfather who WAS TOO FUCKING YOUNG to crew a T-54
Weren't these things designed to be manned by midgets? considering how people are much taller today than they were back in 50 & 60, I can only imagine how cramped they must feel for the average mobik
headroom is a bit tight but its fairly roomy otherwise
mobiks are just as malnourished as their ancestors, don't worry
obr.
This.
Obr. = obrazets = issue or make = year-specific variation
Obj. = object = production or design code of an experimental or non-serial vehicle or whatever
Are you calling the cuck cage not an experimental addition?
why does ukraine need 50,000 more graves?
Because ziggers aren't taken home *~~)
because putin refused to take away his dead vatniks
Dead vatnik storage
Lmao my grandfather served on these, and they were already old then.
t. Czechnyan boomer
Pls bro dont remind me of that czechia chechnia confusion
I deliberately try to spread that confusion ever since then.
Ha! Called it
Kek, my uncle was a commander in T-55, he's 70
t. Polebro
>obj. 2023
it's obr. for russian tech and zr. for ukrainian
>it's obr. for russian
yes it is.
Underrated comment
Guess we now know where the T-54 stolen from Mariuopol went kek
A fucking double decker? For what purpose?
Maximum cope
Russia bringing T-55s out of storage is in fact a really good sign for Russia, as much as NAFO trannies try to argue against it.
And you know what? I don't blame you them that much. See, the West and especially America has had their whole perception of war shaped by the last hundred years of foreign interventionist that they've lost sight of any other way of doing things. In WW2 the US had to ship everything across the world, and they shipped Shermans, from the North Africa campaign to Berlin. And they had to, since upgrading would cripple their supply chain. Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins. And that mindset of "you fight war with what you sent" persists today, which is why the US fights insurgents armed with rusty AKs with Abrams.
But they fail to realize that Russia has no global logistic hurdle. A few hour train ride is it. And Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrine to adapt to best fighting their enemy. In the opening days they used the good stuff to permit rapid gains, set the stage. A few months later they swap that out with less modern but still highly effective armor to support the grinding offensive. After all, why put the most modern tanks on the battlefield if arty is doing most of the work? And now, with the Ukrainian military on the verge of collapse, those tanks are being swapped out for T-55s, because what's about to commence is nothing more that a mopping up operation. And throughout it all, the best tanks is Russia won't be taking any losses at all. And that terrifies NATO.
is what I would say, if I was a vatnik shill
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
> Russia uses a form of dynamic equipment doctrin
Don’t give up your day job
Based retards
I'm not reading all that but your HRT prescription is ready
>Its why you saw Shermans being field modified to be anything more than rolling coffins.
Reminder that Yids using upgunned Shermans blew the fuck out of your beloved T-54s in 1967, zigger.
this was honestly the biggest assfucking since WW2, have we ever seen a bigger humiliation than 67? friendly reminder that israel expanded its size x3 by the end of the war that the arabs started lmfao
it should come as no surprise that the russians were (and still are) the arabs' biggest sponsors
Imagine the cope if 4chan had been around back then
It was around back then, newfag
Then post some screenshots from the good old times, retard
>the GGfags have been leasing out the time machine AGAIN
Billions (of gamer gurls) must die.
>israel expanded its size x3 by the end of the war
SIX (6) DAYS
they also killed at least 25k shitskins in that time lmao
daily reminder that making your arty fly is 10000x better than having shit ton of mass produced armor staffed by monkeybrains
This was a Soviet note after the Bekaa valley turkey shoot, notice any similarities?
>Soviet note
You fucking telling me even in the 1960s the soviets communicated to each other in the Ministry of Defense in edgy commie political speeches in their actual official documents? Jesus...
Also source for the note I want to read more of it.
It's more of lessons learned paper, but the amount of cope is pretty funny.
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2007/R3000.pdf
You got me.
Girkin Doomposting lol
If in February 2022 you'd told me that T-54 Obr. 2023 would be a real thing I'd have laughed at you and yet here we are. I'm almost ready to wholeheartedly embrace Girkin's sarcastic doomposting as being a reliable vision of the future and am ready to witness the one working T-34 left in Russia going into battle, only to be immediately popped by an AT missile that probably cost several times more than it did when brand new.
I love him so much bros, I don't want to see him get windowed or spend the rest of his life in a cell in the Hague. He should just call up his old buddies, go full Outer Heaven and liveblog the whole thing. Go out in a blaze of glory.
I DO want Girkin to face justice for his role in the Second Chechen War, the Moscow apartment bombings, the MH-17 shootdown, etc. but I also want to shake his hand and tell him he's a magnificent bastard. Then I'd tell him he deserves this (I'm his executioner btw).
>Speed - Mach 26 in dense layers of the atmosphere
Kek
the elusive 2-tiered duplex cope cage. Specially designed to attract Chechen BVLLs
If I had to convert a T-54 into something that might do something useful on a battlefield it was never designed in, I would first weld the turret in place, I would then cover the turret and hull glacis in cement or concrete, effectively converting it into an armored casemate. I would remove the turret floor to increase space within the new casemate. I would have it assigned as an assault gun after redesignating it the T-54 obr.2023 (SU-100P). I would Stugmaxx
I think the Ukrainians capture the outdated Russian equipment and turn them into IFV or APCs. I haven't seen what they do with T-54's though.
Anyone have the webm of the MTLB that the Ukrainians had converted into an SPG?
Use them for training?
Problem with that is assault guns/casemate tanks were able to still traverse their guns (albeit within a limited arc) but youd have no such luck if starting from a turreted tank like the T-55.
>horizontal = full hull movement
>vertical = normal turret things
But given the retarded transmission configuration it's not gonna be any better.
>a T-54 into something that might do something useful on a battlefield it was never designed in,
Field reclamation vehicle only. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
>Tabletop wargamers will have to ruin their models with these retarded cuckhats if they want to play a "Historically accurate Ukraine War campaign"
>Wargame: Blyatkreig scenario comes out
>Boasts of "dynamic ERA distribution technology" which gives all vehicles a random scattering of ERA bricks
It'll be fun to paint all the anime bullshit on em tho
The lower "cage" is obviously not a cage, but a sniper's perch from where he can comfortably pick off AT infantry. This is well known in the right circles and become a nasty surprise for our esteemed Western partners in due time.
I managed to get the armorer to give me 3 M72 LAWs when I went to get grenades for my team last week. Is that piece of shit old enough for a LAW to actually fuck it up?
A Super Bazooka would be enough
? a tank is a tank.. it did not really matter
>ft17 is the same as a leo2
Yeah ok anon
>Top "protected" from AT warheads
>LAW goes through steel front armor
How long until these are on the front lines?
>under own power
oh nonono, not the magic words
>WAGIE WAGIE
>GET IN THE CAGIE
>TIME TO FIGHT (DIE) IN UKRAINE
In a strange way I'm kind of worried. Inflation is going crazy everything's cost so much now went to the grocery store and it was crazy. And the Russians are fighting this war cheaper and cheaper. Starting to understandthe Germans Felt in world war II. No matter how many killed they keep coming back cheaper and ragged. At this point they might as well start using hi points and cheap Chinese sneakers. They truly are goblins
This needs to be in World of Tanks. 10/10 would use for sui-scout missions