Why do vatniks get so worked up over this? Even if it were fully autonomous and could hold 500 rounds, it's still just a tank. Why do some people act like it could single-handedly win wars?
T-14 hype
Why do vatniks get so worked up over this? Even if it were fully autonomous and could hold 500 rounds, it's still just a tank. Why do some people act like it could single-handedly win wars?
the rumor says its completely impervious to western tank cannons
Well that's fine since (like with most tank losses in this war) it won't be a tank cannon that will disable it
If it actually worked as intended and they could build them it would be a very nice tank. Conventional ATGMs get taken out by APS. Javelins and other passive top attack are detected by radar and blinded by auto smoke grenades. Frontally the crew is likely completely protected from opposing tanks. Any hit to the turret is likely be a mission kill but it's a relatively small target, other tanks would suffer mission kills if shot in the mantlet or optics anyway. With the t-72 autoloader limitations gone the 125mm can use long penetrators, if supplied with proper ammunition it's likely to have 800mm - 1000mm RHA penetration.
Of course none of this is worth anything when you can't build them due to being dependent on foreign components and corruption crippling all domestically produced systems.
Has the auto smoke defense ever been shown to actually protect from IIR top attack munitions? That radar has to identify and discern the threat really fucking quick to defeat a missile like that. Plus I have to imagine it takes some crazy effort to get the system to differentiate between incoming munitions. I wouldn’t trust the Russians to design a system like that that doesn’t pop every time the radar picks up an 81mm mortar lobbed horizontally in the tanks generally direction
Honestly it seems like a pure cope feature
If their active protection actually works as intended.
If their radar can actually distinguish targets and doesn't pop smoke whenever a bird flies over.
If they managed to finally produce an IR sensor that can actually see something at distance.
Apart from that it seems like a good design from the outside. Unmanned turrets seem like the natural evolution of tank design.
zamn that bro putin really got the halo 3 bubba shield
I want to play red alert again
Looks like something from a a vaporwave video
>~50 tons
>impervious to western tank guns
LMAO.
It was supposed to be the center piece of their military modernization along with Su-57. Turns out access to Western technology getting cut off after occupation of Crimea more than derailed development and production both systems. They might have next gen tank, fighter, IFV, APC and whatever else, but no industrial base to produce those in significant numbers. Assuming that all isn't a Potemkin village to impress tsar Vladimir the Monke, his court and masses of plebs on parades.
Front of hull and crew compartment might be, rest no if vehicle weight is what they claim. It is pretty huge, there simply isn't tonnage for lot of armor all the way around everything.
You might have problems fitting 3 man turret on T-72/80/90. Oh, they developed T-80 with auto loader containing the more volatile part of ammunition, propellant charges in bustle with blowout panels and grenades and sabot rounds in carousel under crew compartment. Sabots have nothing volatile and HEAT or HE rounds are far less volatile than propellant charges. That happened from late 80's and 90's. Then the first Chechen war happened. T-80's with its turbine engine turned out disaster to keep running on battlefield conditions due to fuel logistics. They just didn't consider it worth the cost over T-72B3's and T-90. Omsk tank plant probably didn't pay enough kickbacks to Putin and his cronies, so it was dissolved and design bureau was absorbed into Uralvagonzavod.
>You might have problems fitting 3 man turret on T-72/80/90
T-64 as well. As mentioned previously out off all the tanks they had the T-62 is the one with the most development potential, especially in the area of incremental improvement and turret upgrades.
I wonder if at some point in the decades long T-14 design project the engineers watched the latest Pokpung-ho variant rolling down the street and realized they had made a mistake.
>T-64 as well.
I don't think Russians have any in active service outside of handful pushed into service immediately after being captured. Entire supply chain is essentially in Ukraine, same applies to piston engine versions of T-80.
>As mentioned previously out off all the tanks they had the T-62 is the one with the most development potential, especially in the area of incremental improvement and turret upgrades.
No. I'd say best upgrade path would have been T-72/90 with same design approach as Object 640, previously mentioned T-80 with lesser chance of turret toss and crew loss. The massive irony is that after T-64 the Soviets remade it two times with T-72 and T-80, setting 3 mostly separate supply chains for essentially same tank. Yes, T-64 took more than decade to make reliable, T-72 might have been simpler and cheaper. At that point they might have completely switched to T-72, but lets introduce another with T-80. I don't count T-90 as separate entity, it just another upgraded T-72 that was given new designation for marketing purposes after Iraqi T-72's got curb stomped in Desert Storm.
I mentioned T-62 because it was already designed with a oversized turret/turret ring and if you move the internal ammo storage to the rear of the turret the hull has alot of internal space. There are existing engines that nearly double the HP without destroying the transmission.
We know for a absolute fact that you can put a non autoloading 125mm turret with bustle ammo storage on a T-62 turret ring, i can't think of a single example of that being done with a T-72 based hull.
Fun fact: When Kim visited Russia the route had to be hastily changed when Putin tried to show off a T-72 modernization factory and Kim wasn't interested, instead they went to a Mig-29 factory which the DPRK somehow produces in small numbers.
How about anti-tank mines?
>some people act like
>the rumor says
Why do glavset hookers always start their false statements like this? That's just poor training and makes them easy to identify and ridicule. There's the hilarious clown show they're pulling at the frontlines, but the online trolling is fucking baffling.
yeah cant get hit if you cant get to the front line
The would have legitimately been better off making a new T-62/T-72 turret with a non autoloading 125mm with bustle ammo storage and retrofitting their existing fleet, basically a Russian Pokpung-ho IV.
Can you make a multiple crew turret for the t72 platform that Russian men could actually fit in?
It would difficult but probably not impossible, a great irony is that the T-62 platform is far more upgradable than the T-72 because it has more internal space and a very large turret ring.
You could legitimately make a better tank with a T-62 hull than one from a T72.
they can just raise the turret up a bit and call it a day. a bowl instead of a frying pan kind of reshaping
Because of the schizophrenic relations vatniks have to the Soviet Union, which combines pride at its achievements and insecurity at the fact that they are still living in its shadow. The Armata was really the first all-Russian tank, rather than a modernised Soviet model. It was meant to prove that all that was good about the USSR was Russia, and Russia still has it. Hence the burning need for the Armata, against all evidence and good sense, to be actually good.
Gotta admit it has a cool name, and it looks cool. Imagine if we get a drone shot of a T14 engaging a Leo2 or Abrams before the war ends.
A 5 second video of a T14 getting turret-tossed while screaming holds no appeal.
T14?
No tanks
Carry over from cold war and Soviet ideals on them being more advanced than the barbaric west. It's wunderwaffle for the 21st century
That's a staple of russian psyche - craving for impunity and invulnerability in doing your petty gopnik deeds.
Everything that lulls them into this infantilistic dreamy comfort of slaughtering and plundering their neighbors and "the West" with absolute impunity, would receive a cult-like reverence status, be it God's blessing and protection, some mythical Satan ICBMs, nuclear Poseidon torpedo, impenetrable T-14 supertank, etc.
This can be traced even to their old fairytales which are a goddamn drooling over 2 archetypes - the superhero-esque Marvel style BOGATYR champion-warriors with god-given superhuman strength, and IVAN-DURAK, as a super lucky trickster that would be rained upon with divine interventions, help and assistance from supernatural sources.
Feeling deep inside the flimsiness and childishness of their cravings, russians shill and project hysterically and relentlessly at their foes by mocking ukies as infantilistic "axaxaxa muh marvel avengers superheroes, ghost of kyyeeeeeeef" believers, calling euro and us militaries effeminate coward zoomerfags while being scared and servile cocksleeves to chechens themselves, etc.
It has anti-air capability I heard.
I can't wait for it to turn up in war thunder and one shot everything while being invincible
>Go to weapons board
>Ask why people are excited about seeing a highly-anticipated weapon's combat debut
go back to r/ukraine
It’s one of the few copes they have left. As their terminator Wunder waffle turned out to be shit.
What do they have left that hasn't been destroyed? T-14 and Su-57? Imagine if one of then gets btfo this year lmao
All the Russian posting making fun of Westerners caring so much about wunderwaffe was actually just projection, after all.
They thought the Iranian drones would be wunderwaffe, same with this. They're just upset they have no advanced weapon systems, let alone something 20 or so years old that performs well. The fucking HIMARS is an old system yet practically top tier wunderwaffe to the Russians. That's WITHOUT atacms either.
>bringing up trannies out of nowhere
>starts spamming your folder
>wondering why people start to wonder about it being your fetish or you projecting
Also, yes, russia is more gay than the west, at least physically. Pretty sure one of their popular porn searches was trans.
T-14 COULD win wars.....if the Ukrainians were the ones driving it, lol.
Damn, there are eleven trannies in Keef? I want ukropiggies to lose now.
It gives them copium which validates the theory that russia is still holding back
>parade with orchestra
>flag is on freshly chopped stick from a nearby bush
she just doesn't look right without a 152. They got it right with the Object 195 and 477.
Why doesn't it have a bore evacuator? After a few rounds the wiring in that unmanned turret will start rotting and leeking smoke from every crevice..
>immediately deflect to idpol bullshit when cornered
Such is the life of the kacap.
Not just vatniks tbh, im also p pumped
Can't wait to see the shitposts when they lose one of these to a fucking alibaba drone
>Why do some people act like it could single-handedly win wars?
do they? Or is it just the work of your imagination?
they would get destroyed like any other tank
The real issue is that of the three that have ever been seen moving one broke down, one was in the process of destroying it's gear box and the other one caught fire yet somehow Russians are proud of that.
they can't even mass produce it, what is there to be proud of
the uncrewed turret is a nice concept which is not novel, good on them for trying to go through with it but it won't matter if they lack the means to produce them in sufficient numbers
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>what is there to be proud of
Nothing.
Meanwhile in North Korea....
The Donbas will rise back to life as an industrial hub, the Russia of 2030 will be much better supplied and benefit from all the R&D done for the Su75, T14, and various projects.
It's coming
Russia has been hyping this thing as a wunderwaffe and the best tank in the world for years. I just want to see this thing in the field so we can hear its engine scream in pain one last time when some Leo 2A4 dumpsters it
wonder what armatard thinks of all this. Haven't seen him mentioned for a while.