Zero chance for Su-57 to get captured if it is used only as a R-37 platform lobbing missiles from the Russian side of border, also near-zero chance of getting shot down. But a MBT? Use one in a real combat situation and there is always a very real risk for anything to happen to it.
Would matter less if Russia actually had more of them, but as long as Armatas are limited to an amount countable with one hand, the value they add to Russian combat capabilities is close to zero, while losing one would be a big propaganda hit. Again, the latter could be just shrugged off if there were enough of Armatas to make a difference, but we all know that there isn’t.
they're going to pony it around, get it a lil dirty in the russian backcountry, add some "battle damage" and voila, t14 is totally combat proven wunderpazer
Might be wise though. Combat tested is the best. See how it fails and fix it right in time before mass producing T-15. But knowing Russian hubris, they'll stamp 10k T-14 storage decorations that'll disintegrate on contact with next NLAW gen or something.
Also imagine the backlash if it gets destroyed or captured.
I imagine they'll film it firing at something in the distance in a ballistic arc and call it a day
Uhm didn't you know that the T-14 is cutting edge late 90s technology that can destroy 50 zillion T-72s? Ukraine is doomed, so are we. I, John of Idaho Oblast, say we cut our losses and don't supply ukraine anymore.
THE FIRST TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING GUN. THE SECOND TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING ENGINE. WHEN THE FIRST TANK IS DESTOYED IT WILL TOSS IT TURRET. THE SECOND TANK WILL TAKE IT'S GUN!
I kek'd at the thought of a bunch of turretless T-14s frantically circling around another T-14, trying to catch its tossed turret and going: >MINE! MINE! >MINE! >MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! >MINE! MINE! >MINE! *click* *BOOOM* (it was an actual mine) >MINE! >MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!
[...]
THE FIRST TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING GUN. THE SECOND TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING ENGINE. WHEN THE FIRST TANK IS DESTOYED IT WILL TOSS IT TURRET. THE SECOND TANK WILL TAKE IT'S GUN!
>I'll drive, You Shoot!
I can't believe they already made a movie based on this, starring Megan Fox. I guess Russia's war style can be accurately described as, BAYHEM!
Its all a ruse, there is no seperate crew compartment. Russki have continued the soviet super soldier program to make combat midgets to fit inside the turret
storage space for repair tools according to random russki infographics. too small for loot, washing machines wont fit there
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/wkivyPd.jpg
Wait a minute, the armata still has the circular autoloader under the turret?
Then why the fuck does it have that large rear section of the turret? To store loot?
It´s sad how gimped are their design bureaus because of corruption, I´m not even going into how without the crew more compact and simpler autoloaders can be used but I bet that shit doesnt even have blowout panels
Unlikely to be in Ukraine. That account is a full blown Russian desinformation / shill account. They’ve tried to pass videos of as being in Ukraine before.
Highly likely that we will see drone footage of a t 14 firing and then being cut to a leopard tank being disabled by an atgm/mine. Anything to attempt to reanimate the Russian MIC
>That account is a full blown Russian desinformation / shill account.
just cheap wonderwaffen bullshit then
>T-14 Armata has been exported with UA war markings, likely going to the war.
There have never been more than seven of these working, currently three. It is a dead project officially in Russia. If this relatively useless prototype(no parts or maintenance logistics destruction derby and done) is going to Ukraine all it says is Russia is critically short of running mbts which we knew already
scratch this even just vatmoron spam of this worthless non weapon
Wait, did they retool these for a different engine or are they going to YOLO all ten of them on the A-85-3? Because if it's the latter, I kind of wonder if they have enough spare engines.
10 of them on video and around 20 were build, I have also seen Bumerang in similar setup. I guess they are at level of Germany in 1945 where they were putting even prototypes into frontline
best bet they are going to use them like Terminators, small numbers in limited operations.
We have seen Terminators on beginning of the war and for half of the hear there was nothing but silence. I guess it's going to be the same but in the end it will explode on mine.
nothing because they simply wont deploy them, just like bumerangs spotted on a train earlier. its for yearly victory parade prep or photo ops on testing grounds
That's definitely the most logical takeaway. So if we actually DO see these briefly on the frontline someplace, I'd say it's clear evidence that the RF has hit the "just grab whatever you can" phase of terminal desperation.
>I guess it's going to be the same but in the end it will explode on mine.
You're probably right, but I'd give even odds that more than one of them blows the engine after the crew has to open up the throttle in combat conditions. I just hope we get to see one clear video of a Jav testing out Malakhit ERA, damn.
I like how they've decided to censor the train and not the buildings, as if that is how people are geo-locating where these things have come from.
They also did it for a random lamp post at the end, because why not?
So what will get the first confirmed armata kill?
1 - mines
2 - Javelin
3 - artillery
4 - Stugna
5 - RPG/AT4/Matador
6 - drone
7 - western tank
8 - eastern tank
9 - abandooned
0 - GLSDB
dubs - that one ukie in the trench video
What i wonder is how high the turrets are going to fly on the Armatar, its turret is lighter than the T-72 and at the same time the ammo is packed closer and is in a smaller confined space. That got to add at least another 10m or so.
Put me down for "13 - The A-85-3 engine burns out before it can reach the front; crew forced to abandon."
Seriously, this thing can't upshift in a May Victory Day parade without needing repairs. And the V-92S2F won't fit in the chassis because they designed the tank around the engine.
I cannot believe that there will be footage of these anywhere near the frontline for anything other than posed propaganda photos.
nothing because they simply wont deploy them, just like bumerangs spotted on a train earlier. its for yearly victory parade prep or photo ops on testing grounds
Mines will get the first, but good odds it won't be confirmed. If it's anything other than a Stugna, we won't get video, just drone footage and a claim for what took it out.
they wont deploy one to the frontline
they have so little of them, material wise losing one is whatever for russia, but if one is destroyed and spammed on mass media the political damage it would cause would be catastrophic
There actually were Russian machines with more neat and tidy markings in the early stage of the war but they were quickly mulched and the handpainted markings have mostly been the norm ever since.
Its a very light and compact cannon for its class which offers no advantage whatsoever on the ground vehicles who use it, who knows maybe the original draft was for an airborne cannon but it ended on ground service, if the russians decided a few years later to change the action to long recoil and affix the thin barrel to the 100mm cannon on the BMP3 it would suggest that they realized early in its service life that it wobbled too much. Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
>Its a very light and compact cannon
Are they really this fucking retarded, I know the past year should have really shown that, but this is a fucking APC/IFV. Maybe you're right about the airborne cannon origination aspect.
Would explain the weight reduction.
> Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
THIS IS WHAT CONFUSES ME.
Look how JUICY that bitch is and they put like a tikka t3 light barrel setup in there.
Its a very light and compact cannon for its class which offers no advantage whatsoever on the ground vehicles who use it, who knows maybe the original draft was for an airborne cannon but it ended on ground service, if the russians decided a few years later to change the action to long recoil and affix the thin barrel to the 100mm cannon on the BMP3 it would suggest that they realized early in its service life that it wobbled too much. Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
some anon noted that the muzzle breaks blast into each other and cause the wobbles
>Its a very light and compact cannon
Are they really this fucking retarded, I know the past year should have really shown that, but this is a fucking APC/IFV. Maybe you're right about the airborne cannon origination aspect.
Would explain the weight reduction.
> Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
THIS IS WHAT CONFUSES ME.
Look how JUICY that bitch is and they put like a tikka t3 light barrel setup in there.
Thinking some more about this maybe the problem lies on the intended use vs the inept crews. I mean, on early videos of the invasion both the professional russian crews (rip) and in the case of ukrainians up until now are seen using either manual single shots or the slow rate firing setting. Maybe the problem is inexperienced crews using a fire mode only intended by the designers as some sort of desperate point blank measure or even to fill the dubious anti-helicopter capabilities were the insane spread would be an advantage
>T-14 Armata has been exported with UA war markings, likely going to the war.
There have never been more than seven of these working, currently three. It is a dead project officially in Russia. If this relatively useless prototype(no parts or maintenance logistics destruction derby and done) is going to Ukraine all it says is Russia is critically short of running mbts which we knew already
We're two months from the Victory Day parade, they're probably being moved and dolled up for that.
I'll be shocked if they risk it's supposed future export prospects by sending it to be destroyed in war, even if it turns out to not be a screaming pile of junk, no weapon is invincible.
"Z" markings for the parade is new but not surprising.
I'm sure it will never see Frontline combat
They don't have alot of these lying around
They're using one of their Su-57s, so why not 4 of their T-14s.
Because only 3 works
those are some big numbers you got a source for that
Which one will they use? The one that l moves, the one that shoots or the one that doesn't do either?
>They're using
>launch long-range antiaircraft rockets from Russian territory
Zero chance for Su-57 to get captured if it is used only as a R-37 platform lobbing missiles from the Russian side of border, also near-zero chance of getting shot down. But a MBT? Use one in a real combat situation and there is always a very real risk for anything to happen to it.
Would matter less if Russia actually had more of them, but as long as Armatas are limited to an amount countable with one hand, the value they add to Russian combat capabilities is close to zero, while losing one would be a big propaganda hit. Again, the latter could be just shrugged off if there were enough of Armatas to make a difference, but we all know that there isn’t.
This. It simply doesn’t make sense to send parade queen shit to frontlines, more risk than rewards.
they're going to pony it around, get it a lil dirty in the russian backcountry, add some "battle damage" and voila, t14 is totally combat proven wunderpazer
Might be wise though. Combat tested is the best. See how it fails and fix it right in time before mass producing T-15. But knowing Russian hubris, they'll stamp 10k T-14 storage decorations that'll disintegrate on contact with next NLAW gen or something.
Also imagine the backlash if it gets destroyed or captured.
I imagine they'll film it firing at something in the distance in a ballistic arc and call it a day
Uhm didn't you know that the T-14 is cutting edge late 90s technology that can destroy 50 zillion T-72s? Ukraine is doomed, so are we. I, John of Idaho Oblast, say we cut our losses and don't supply ukraine anymore.
The best we probably gonna see is some russian drone footage of a T-14 shooting at nothing in some unknown forrest.
> Forrest
Pole spotted
Forrest Gump is a Vietnam war hero
Or shooting down rubble in mariupol.
>implying it would actually be filmed in Ukraine
Looks like you were right, Anon.
poccnr is also deploying the unicorn brigade and the Squonk units.
I hope a Leopard 1 knocks it out.
Are they sending the one that moves or the one that shoot ?
>THE TWO TANKS GET CONNECTED
>THE ONE THAT CAN MOVE GOES IN THE FRONT
>IT PULLS THE TANK THAT CAN SHOOT
ffs forgot the picture
THE FIRST TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING GUN. THE SECOND TANK WILL HAVE A WORKING ENGINE. WHEN THE FIRST TANK IS DESTOYED IT WILL TOSS IT TURRET. THE SECOND TANK WILL TAKE IT'S GUN!
I kek'd at the thought of a bunch of turretless T-14s frantically circling around another T-14, trying to catch its tossed turret and going:
>MINE! MINE!
>MINE!
>MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!
>MINE! MINE!
>MINE! *click* *BOOOM* (it was an actual mine)
>MINE!
>MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!
10/10
>I'll drive, You Shoot!
I can't believe they already made a movie based on this, starring Megan Fox. I guess Russia's war style can be accurately described as, BAYHEM!
>>THE TWO TANKS GET CONNECTED
>>THE ONE THAT CAN MOVE GOES IN THE FRONT
>>IT PULLS THE TANK THAT CAN SHOOT
its real
>they STILL haven't fixed the recoil wobbling
What recoil wobbling?
https://twitter.com/warmonitors/status/1623764030992130049
What wobble? Immediately after the shot, the barrel goes into horizontal position to commence the autoloading procedure. T-64/72/80 do the same thing.
Someone make the gif
Why are the crew drawn like they're piloting some scifi super tank or something? Fucking oxygen masks seriously?
Wait a minute, the armata still has the circular autoloader under the turret?
Then why the fuck does it have that large rear section of the turret? To store loot?
Counterweight for the gun since the rest of the turret is tiny.
Its all a ruse, there is no seperate crew compartment. Russki have continued the soviet super soldier program to make combat midgets to fit inside the turret
storage space for repair tools according to random russki infographics. too small for loot, washing machines wont fit there
It´s sad how gimped are their design bureaus because of corruption, I´m not even going into how without the crew more compact and simpler autoloaders can be used but I bet that shit doesnt even have blowout panels
Wait so what it is? Does the T14 have the T64 style autoloader or that weird 2 storey T72 style and if thats the case how the fuck it even works?
So... if that thing gets hit the turret will still fly up in the air... right?
You can literally hear the autoloadr working at the end of the video.
Genuinely retarded.
This is the gun going to it's loading detent
90 IQ
Unlikely to be in Ukraine. That account is a full blown Russian desinformation / shill account. They’ve tried to pass videos of as being in Ukraine before.
Highly likely that we will see drone footage of a t 14 firing and then being cut to a leopard tank being disabled by an atgm/mine. Anything to attempt to reanimate the Russian MIC
>That account is a full blown Russian desinformation / shill account.
just cheap wonderwaffen bullshit then
scratch this even just vatmoron spam of this worthless non weapon
>wobbling
the porpoise strikes again
>then change your fucking tank!
That could just be a bit of orbital wobble.
https://twitter.com/warmonitors/status/1630937083547140096?s=46&t=JBgZ2cmFnQXFHkPkxZm-sg
Full video. I finally found the source. (I'm OP)
>like 10 of them
damn i didnt expect this
Because PrepHole said it didn't enter service?
Allah willing, the first one eats a Panzerfaust and disintegrates for shitposting reasons.
>german extendo-cock
never fails to make me giggle
Preferably an OG WW2 one some grandpa had stashed in the barn after the war.
Wait, did they retool these for a different engine or are they going to YOLO all ten of them on the A-85-3? Because if it's the latter, I kind of wonder if they have enough spare engines.
10 of them on video and around 20 were build, I have also seen Bumerang in similar setup. I guess they are at level of Germany in 1945 where they were putting even prototypes into frontline
If you're correct, then this is going to be like the whole "German Tiger electrical shortout, entire tank is a write-off" thing from WWII, only worse.
best bet they are going to use them like Terminators, small numbers in limited operations.
We have seen Terminators on beginning of the war and for half of the hear there was nothing but silence. I guess it's going to be the same but in the end it will explode on mine.
not saying that they will field tank that will need specialized parts, in logistical nightmare.
That's definitely the most logical takeaway. So if we actually DO see these briefly on the frontline someplace, I'd say it's clear evidence that the RF has hit the "just grab whatever you can" phase of terminal desperation.
>I guess it's going to be the same but in the end it will explode on mine.
You're probably right, but I'd give even odds that more than one of them blows the engine after the crew has to open up the throttle in combat conditions. I just hope we get to see one clear video of a Jav testing out Malakhit ERA, damn.
Would be funnier if a mango goes through it. It'd be unlikely that corruption got *that* bad but boy do they keep trying to lower that bar.
Don't underestimate a mango, Anon.
Those things are dangerous.
I like how they've decided to censor the train and not the buildings, as if that is how people are geo-locating where these things have come from.
They also did it for a random lamp post at the end, because why not?
Theyre propably gonna ship it to front and then ship it back to safety like they did with that mi26
Zisters, we still got some left for the Victory Day Parade right!?
Does its engine work now?
I'm starting to really look forward to the "victory day" parade this year..!
>May 9th
>Two months to make it even more underwhelming than the last one
If you were a betting man, Anon, what would you say the odds were of a bicycle brigade taking centre stage this year?
The fabled sneedmarta...
Are the gloves coming off at last?
Cringe anon
So what will get the first confirmed armata kill?
1 - mines
2 - Javelin
3 - artillery
4 - Stugna
5 - RPG/AT4/Matador
6 - drone
7 - western tank
8 - eastern tank
9 - abandooned
0 - GLSDB
dubs - that one ukie in the trench video
Very likely mines, if it really gets to roll that is.
I hope it's a Leopard 1 with a Balkenkreuz painted onto its side.
First it will break down several times before even coming anywhere close to the fighting, then it will be abandooooned
For me, it is:
>88 - Azov dude with a Panzerfaust
What i wonder is how high the turrets are going to fly on the Armatar, its turret is lighter than the T-72 and at the same time the ammo is packed closer and is in a smaller confined space. That got to add at least another 10m or so.
Bradley with a TOW missile
Azov tankist with a leopard1A5
Absolutely hilarious
Put me down for "13 - The A-85-3 engine burns out before it can reach the front; crew forced to abandon."
Seriously, this thing can't upshift in a May Victory Day parade without needing repairs. And the V-92S2F won't fit in the chassis because they designed the tank around the engine.
I cannot believe that there will be footage of these anywhere near the frontline for anything other than posed propaganda photos.
Nah I am going for
"Abandoned in favor of any other Tank"
why?
because of picrel
hopefully it will be an ukie with a komar or some other small launcher
nothing because they simply wont deploy them, just like bumerangs spotted on a train earlier. its for yearly victory parade prep or photo ops on testing grounds
TOW from a Bradley.
84mm Carl gustav
or some Azov guys who somehow found a Flak88 in their grandpa's barn and restored it to working order.
Are there any in Ukraine? I was literally just thinking about them
Carl Gustavs are in Ukraine
and was even responsible for the First T-90M kill
>and was even responsible for the First T-90M kill
No it wasn't. Stop spreading Fuddlore. The T-90M was immobilized and taken out by a sister tank.
There are Gustafs in Ukraine tho.
a few, i think there's a video from some time ago of a T-90 getting whacked and people saying it was a CG
If they actually deploy them in the near term I hope a javelin for the seething. In the far term an Abrams for the same reason.
Abandoned just like the fabled Terminator BMP that got knocked out
mud
>9 - abandooned
That would be the greatest thing
8
It'll be a 60 year old T-64
ABANDOOON
Rolling for the great and powerful abandooner
Roll
check'd. What do trips get? Stolen by Australians? There's about the same number of T14s as there were A7Vs
High metal prices :DDDDDDDDDDDD
Stolen by gypsies/random farmer.
Polish PT-91, resulting in Poles cancelling all tank orders and producing more T-72s because they can easily destroy the best Russian tank.
Most likely artillery, that has gotten the most tank kills this war
Mulched by autocannon because the turret has >30mm of protection
Going for the good old abandooners here.
You got a 7.But the most likely outcome is it never going to Ukraine.
Mines will get the first, but good odds it won't be confirmed. If it's anything other than a Stugna, we won't get video, just drone footage and a claim for what took it out.
My money is on a Carl Gustav like the t90m got killed by, for extra humiliation factor
Blue on blue from another T-14.
Rolling
rolling for abandoon!
Rolling rolling rolling
Good, I was tired of waiting for them to be blown up too.
new cammies
there are thousands of civ cars in russia with "UA war markings", do you think any of them are going to the war?
Given how the war is going atleast some of them probably will
The Russian military should just start "appropriating" Z blazened cars imo.
I'm sure the patriots wont mind.
they are dragging around that piece of shit mock-up, like they drag the corpse of that TB-2, aren't they?
Again? how many more weeks until the Train arrives on the front line?
It will just be blown up and left to rust in a matter of weeks.
Any day now.
Are you sure it’s not getting sent back home for repairs?
Meh. 🙂
they wont deploy one to the frontline
they have so little of them, material wise losing one is whatever for russia, but if one is destroyed and spammed on mass media the political damage it would cause would be catastrophic
>we will see the T-14 Cuckmata getting BTFO by a Bradley very soon
>Gunner, Missile, tank! Traverse right.
>supposed top of the line wunderwaffe
>still has the shitty hand painted "Z"s
Do vatniks not understand stencils? Why is this so hard for them?
There actually were Russian machines with more neat and tidy markings in the early stage of the war but they were quickly mulched and the handpainted markings have mostly been the norm ever since.
Bro they haven't even figured out to use a spray bottle and a cardboard mask. They are dumber than teenagers.
He looks so sad
Man this is just weird to me, is this just weak barrel lockup and/or lack of thickness in the receiver/barrel?
They way it's oscillating like that is fucking wild and a massive engineering oversight.
Its a very light and compact cannon for its class which offers no advantage whatsoever on the ground vehicles who use it, who knows maybe the original draft was for an airborne cannon but it ended on ground service, if the russians decided a few years later to change the action to long recoil and affix the thin barrel to the 100mm cannon on the BMP3 it would suggest that they realized early in its service life that it wobbled too much. Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
>Its a very light and compact cannon
Are they really this fucking retarded, I know the past year should have really shown that, but this is a fucking APC/IFV. Maybe you're right about the airborne cannon origination aspect.
Would explain the weight reduction.
> Why the havent used that fuckhuge sleeve on the terminator to add some structural support and fix the barrels like on the BTR4 who knows
THIS IS WHAT CONFUSES ME.
Look how JUICY that bitch is and they put like a tikka t3 light barrel setup in there.
some anon noted that the muzzle breaks blast into each other and cause the wobbles
Not really, it was ogre from the start
This
It's just made to:
?t=37
Thinking some more about this maybe the problem lies on the intended use vs the inept crews. I mean, on early videos of the invasion both the professional russian crews (rip) and in the case of ukrainians up until now are seen using either manual single shots or the slow rate firing setting. Maybe the problem is inexperienced crews using a fire mode only intended by the designers as some sort of desperate point blank measure or even to fill the dubious anti-helicopter capabilities were the insane spread would be an advantage
WHAT'S THAT?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF THE ENGINE!
?t=24
>Nafo has superior technology to automate shitposting whilst Russia employs pajeets
Winning
I think you have misidentified the target
It's always funny that 4chanchuds of all ""people"" accuse any other board to be overrun with bots.
t14 needs to be battle tested but everyone understands with current retarded commanders they all will be destroyed and abandoned
>they all will be destroyed and abandoned
but in the opposite order
>T-14 Armata has been exported with UA war markings, likely going to the war.
There have never been more than seven of these working, currently three. It is a dead project officially in Russia. If this relatively useless prototype(no parts or maintenance logistics destruction derby and done) is going to Ukraine all it says is Russia is critically short of running mbts which we knew already
when will we see video of it shooting trees?
gimi
why can't the us give them any actual good tanks? jesus
Imagine the cataclysmic chimpout when one get's disabled and sent to the US by the Ukies.
The Ukies should parade it outside of every russian embassy in Europe first.
We're two months from the Victory Day parade, they're probably being moved and dolled up for that.
I'll be shocked if they risk it's supposed future export prospects by sending it to be destroyed in war, even if it turns out to not be a screaming pile of junk, no weapon is invincible.
"Z" markings for the parade is new but not surprising.
so uh what do they do when the autoloader malfunctions? when not if, because it's russia
How are these likely to fare head on against soviet tanks?
Will never see the front. Won't provide any advantage and will simply become javelin food if it did, and a huge propaganda loss for Russia.
more armata vatmorony bullshit